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<p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>hey johan watch your shit mith me man.....</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 12:15 PM, "Johann Dröge anheropl0x@gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l@yahoogroups.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3591953651"><div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Whether or not it is taken from Greek, I can not say. But it makes
sense to me. Russian actually does kind of the same thing, but obviously
Russian is not close to Gothic... not unless you want to get into a
large debate lol.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>The Germanic languages that I know seem
to all have their own way for stating the existence of something. For
example, German's "es gibt" is quite different from English "there is/are"<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Es gibt = it gives<br clear="none"></div>Det finns = I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it means something like "it finds"? I don't speak Swedish yet. :c<br clear="none"></div>Það er = Much closer to English there is<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv3591953651gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3591953651yqt5651275801" id="yiv3591953651yqt63819"><div class="yiv3591953651gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l] <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3591953651gmail_quote" style="border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width: 1px;border-left-style: solid;">
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<div>Yes Johann, you confirm what I thought. An admin of the Gothic wiki told me that thar ist for existence is fine, but I disagreed with him because I can't find that in the Gothic Bible. But is it possible that "ist" is taken over from the original Greek and there is for existence is used in other early Germanic languages?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft Johann Dröge <a href="mailto:anheropl0x@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:anheropl0x@gmail.com">anheropl0x@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l] <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<span class="yiv3591953651class"><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Oscar is a fucking idiot.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Back to the topic,
not making up fake words and claiming others should "take lessons"...<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I just use ïst or sind. Your example is a little bit difficult to do directly, but I might write it as:<br clear="none">> Manna waurkjands/a ïst.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> But! If you are actually trying to point out his/her/their location (There is a working man, as opposed to here is a working man) then þar or jainar can be used. But in English, the phrase "there is/are" can be used to simply state the existence of something, without referring to any actual location.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l] <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I studied Braunes grammar and Wrights book and I read a lot in the Gothic bible, and you tell me to take lessons lol, where did you read that nonsense of sindamma.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE <a href="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net">duke.co@sbcglobal.net</a> [gothic-l] <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br clear="none">>> > <br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > you should have taken lessons dude......<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > On Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:31 AM, "Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l]" <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > <br clear="none">>> > No, they are is "sind". Where in the bible or Skeireind is sindamma attested?<br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> > Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE <a href="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net">duke.co@sbcglobal.net</a> [gothic-l] <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br clear="none">>> >> <br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> they are dude......<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:12 AM, "Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l]" <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> <br clear="none">>> >> Sindamma? What's that supposed to mean?<br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >> Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE <a href="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:duke.co@sbcglobal.net">duke.co@sbcglobal.net</a> [gothic-l] <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br clear="none">>> >>> <br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> sindamma would be better....<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 10:35 AM, "Dicentis a <a href="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:roellingua@gmail.com">roellingua@gmail.com</a> [gothic-l]" <<a href="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gothic-l@yahoogroups.com">gothic-l@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> <br clear="none">>> >>> I always use "sind" or "ist", someone told me however that þar ist or þar sind can be used as meaning there is or there are too, like:<br clear="none">>> >>> There is a man which works.<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>> But where is this attested except for in modern Germanic languages, and isn't it better to use what the Bible uses?<br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >>><br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> >><br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">>> ><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none"></span><span class="yiv3591953651class">> --<br clear="none">> Glaðliga ríða Noregs męnn til Hildar þings.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>
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