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<p><div>Dear Basti,</div><div><br></div>The etymology of the names is immaterial. The Goths would have learnt such names through the medium of Greek or Latin, and there is no evidence that Ancient Greek or Latin <eu> would have been pronounced as "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">[ɛɪ̭w]."</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif">While Latin and Greek had both /e/ and /e:/, Gothic evidently did not: beside /ɛ/ and /ɛ:/, both represented by <ai>, it had only /e:/ <e>, but no /e/. This would naturally result in Gothic uncertainty about how to transliterate names containing the foreign sound /e/ in the original. The question is not "why keep a digraph for something that is always pronounced as a single vowel?" but rather 'which of the vowels represented by <ai> or <e> better approximates the value in a foreign word?'</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif">Edmund<br class="yui-cursor"></font><div class="ygroups-quoted"><br><br>---In gothic-l@yahoogroups.com, <setiez@...> wrote :<br><br><div id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:13px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804">"If <ai> and <au> did in fact represent [ai] and [au], then why would a scribe have transcribed these Latin names in this way?"</div><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"><br class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"></div><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804">They are mostly Semitic names, and as someone mentioned earlier, it is hard for people who have spoken diphthongs since childhood to learn a language with mostly monophthongs. I suspect some may have pronounced Leyi (Λευι) as [lɛɪ̭'wə̭ɪ] or with some similar compromise, and that they would have caused the digraphs to remain. So the question I ask myself is: Why keep a digraph for something that is always pronounced as a single vowel?</div><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"><br class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"></div><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804">Anyway, thanks Edmund! I needed some background to understand your previous post.</div><div dir="ltr" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18316">(<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Gothic-L/conversations/messages/12259?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18315" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Gothic-L/conversations/messages/12259</a>)</div><div dir="ltr" class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18323"><span class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"><br class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804"></span></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1670600804qtdSeparateBR" id="ygrps-yiv-1670600804yui_3_16_0_1_1426751910203_18438" dir="ltr">/Basti</div></div></div></div></div></p>
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