Response to inquiry: Differences between heritage & non-heritage learners

[Scott McGinnis]

-----Original Message-----
From: Trinh Pham [mailto:lindatrinhpham at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:12 PM
To: Scott McGinnis; 'heritage-list at Majordomo.umd.edu'
Cc: hisun at hawaii.edu
Subject: Hi Hi-sun and others! Differences between heritage & non-herit
age learners


Hi everyone on the list,

My name is Linda Trinh Pham.  I'm a 4th year graduate
student in the School of Education at UC Berkeley.
Native Language Loss and Maintenance (and issues
surrounding it) as been my research interest for some
time now.  In Scott's defense, I was the one who
emailed Scott individually and asked for Hi-Sun email
because I didn't want to flood the mailboxes of those
who may not be interested... and quite frankly, there
are a few who aren't.  But that's ok!  :)  I found
this list-serv to hold an incredible wealth of
information and I appreciate it very much.  I'm sure
what happened was just a misunderstanding.  However,
now that I have help flood our mailboxes anyways... I
just wanted to let Hi-Sun know (if she doesn't
already) of a few semi-relevant sources:

Hi Hi-Sun,
I haven't stumbled upon empirical studies that dealt
with the linguistic differences between HL and N-HL
but there are a few that talk about the "late-acquired
grammar" of HL and how it makes (re)learning a
language difficult and I would argue sometimes more
difficult than learning the language for the first
time.  It has to do with how HL classes are set up and
the expectations people have of them.  Stephen Krashen
(uh hum) talks about this and Leanne Hinton from UC
Berkeley mentioned this in a terrific article about
Asian American university students.  Now about HL
education itself (specifically Spanish), Barbara
Merino from UC Davis and two others edited a book that
talked about differences between the "Spanish for
Spanish Speakers" students and classes and the regular
Spanish foreign language students and classes.
Guadalupe Valdes from Stanford has talked about the HL bilingual range
and the goals of the classes to expand this range preferably as a
monolingual speaker.
I hope this somewhat helps.  I'm sitting here trying
to think of some linguisticy-articles without my notes
because I don't have them with me.

I'm really into this research and would love to talk
about it some more... but I can talk about it forever
and I'm afraid of "floods" so if you (or others) like,
my email is lindatrinhpham at yahoo.com or we can
correspond on the list-serv, that's cool too! I
research more on the psychosocial side of relearning
and if you're in the linguistic, logistical side, we
have a match!  Thanks Hi-Sun and hope to hear from you
and others soon.


--- Scott McGinnis <smcginnis at nflc.org> wrote:
> Fine by me -- I'm only sorry that Margarita (and
> perhaps others?) have
> found what I've been taking a good deal of time to
> post to the list over the
> past
> year so "irrelevant".
>
> Scott McGinnis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joy Peyton [mailto:joy at cal.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:52 PM
> To: Scott McGinnis; heritage-list at Majordomo.umd.edu
> Subject: RE: Response to inquiry: Differences
> between heritage &
> non-heritage learners
>
>
> I agree with Margarita. I would like to see the
> discussion about this
> issue, in response to Hi-Sun Helen Kim's query.
> Thanks!!
>
> Joy Kreeft Peyton
> Center for Applied Linguistics
> 4646 40th St., NW
> Washington, DC 20016
> 202-362-0700
> joy at cal.org
> www.cal.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott McGinnis [mailto:smcginnis at nflc.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: 'heritage-list at Majordomo.umd.edu'
> Subject: Response to inquiry: Differences between
> heritage &
> non-heritage learners
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Margarita Hidalgo
> [mailto:mhidalgo at mail.sdsu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:45 PM
> To: Scott McGinnis
> Cc: 'heritage-list at Majordomo.umd.edu'
> Subject: Re: Inquiry: Differences between heritage & non-heritage
> learners -- ADDENDUM
>
>
> Scott McGinnis:  This inquiry RE Differences between
> heritage and
> non-heritage learners is the most interesting I have
> seen in more than a
> year, if not the only one that is truly relevant to
> to the Forum
> "heritage-list".   Can you leave it on the air for a
> while just to see
> which direction it takes?  All the best,
>
> 	Margarita Hidalgo
> 	San Diego State University
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Scott McGinnis wrote:
>
> > With apologies for my careless omission...if you
> want to respond
> directly
> > to Ms. Kim, her e-mail address is:
> >
> > 		hisun at hawaii.edu
> >
> > Best,
> > sm
> >
> > (original posting follows)
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm interested in looking into cognitive/
> lingusitic differences of
> > heritage learners in comparison to non-heritage
> learners and other
> learners.
> >
> > I was wondering if there are any (empirical)
> studies done in the
> literature
> > on linguistic characteristics, cognitive styles
> (psycholinguistic),
> and/or
> > aptitude of heritage learners?
> >
> > I would appreciate any suggestions for direction.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Hi-Sun Helen Kim
> > University of Hawaii at Manoa
> > Dept. of East Asian Languages and Literature
> > Korean Linguistics (Ph.D.)
> >


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