From kariri at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 16:23:01 2010 From: kariri at gmail.com (Eduardo R. Ribeiro) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:23:01 -0500 Subject: A new journal on South American languages: Cadernos de Etnoling=?iso-8859-1?Q?=FC=EDstica?= Message-ID: Apologies for cross-posting ----------------- Cadernos de Etnolingüística (ISSN 1946-7095) is a new, peer-reviewed, open-access online journal on South American languages. It publishes original contributions on South American indigenous languages, including articles, reviews, squibs, and unpublished documents (or documents of heretofore limited circulation). Its main goal is to promote the exchange of ideas among researchers in the field, encouraging the discussion of particularly important topics and divulging recent advances in the study of the continent's indigenous languages. Editorial quality is assured by a peer-review process conducted by a qualified editorial board, constituted by linguists from a variety of theoretical orientations, geographic focuses, and institutional affiliations, all of which are actively involved in the analysis and documentation of South American languages. Cadernos de Etnolingüística welcomes the submission of papers reporting on original (field, bibliographic, or both) research, descriptive or theoretical in nature, in all the subareas of our field; papers dealing with technical issues (best practices for electronic documentation, for instance) are particularly welcome. Each article is published as soon as it is approved by the editorial board, being assigned an individual issue number. Given its electronic nature, Cadernos de Etnolingüística recommends, whenever appropriate, the use of audio and video resources to illustrate the linguistic phenomena under discussion. Details on the submission process can be found at http://www.etnolinguistica.org/cadernos:about Papers and notes published in our first volume (2009), dealing with historical, descriptive, and typological issues in both extinct and currently-spoken languages, illustrate well our journal's scope. They can be downloaded at http://www.etnolinguistica.org/cadernos:issues We, the editors, welcome any comments, suggestions, or queries on the submission process at the address editores at etnolinguistica.org Sincerely, J. Pedro Viegas Barros (Universidad de Buenos Aires/CONICET, Argentina) Mônica Veloso Borges (Universidade Federal de Goiás, Brazil) Eduardo Rivail Ribeiro (University of Chicago, USA) (Co-editors, Cadernos de Etnolingüística) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From jsalmons at wisc.edu Sun Jan 17 18:09:42 2010 From: jsalmons at wisc.edu (Joseph Salmons) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:09:42 -0600 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > Dear all, > I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. > > Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) > > Claire > > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http://diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From luraghi at unipv.it Sun Jan 17 20:03:03 2010 From: luraghi at unipv.it (Silvia Luraghi) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:03:03 +0100 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics Message-ID: >>Dear all, >>Johanna Barddal and I have been discussing >>Claire's post, and have the feeling that the >>creation of an eLanguage cojournal for historical >>linguistics would respond to a need in our >>field. As we all know, waiting time for >>publication on existing journals is exceedingly long, >>and a new journal would help create more >>opportunities. We are willing to volunteer and >>assemble a group of people who may be >>interested in this enterprize and help us build >>a high quality editorial board. Please, contact us directly at: >>johanna.barddal at uib.no or silvia.luraghi at unipv.it >>if you feel you would like to join us and >>contribute to the establishment of this new >>journal, then we can discuss all issues regarding its mission. >>Best >>Silvia Luraghi and Johanna Barddal Silvia Luraghi Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata Università di Pavia Strada Nuova 65 I-27100 Pavia telef.: +39-0382-984685 fax: +39-0382-984487 _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From domenec.mendeth at gmail.com Sun Jan 17 20:11:36 2010 From: domenec.mendeth at gmail.com (Domenec Mendez) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:11:36 +0100 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <9F1437DB-5B4B-433B-ADA1-DAAD2768BD3E@wisc.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From GThurgood at csuchico.edu Mon Jan 18 01:26:48 2010 From: GThurgood at csuchico.edu (Thurgood, Graham) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <3333ae571001171211u5b91c5efu78f14077d189cc83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From evie.cousse at ugent.be Wed Jan 20 07:59:58 2010 From: evie.cousse at ugent.be (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Evie_Couss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Coussé Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 Göteborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From counihan at soton.ac.uk Wed Jan 20 10:26:08 2010 From: counihan at soton.ac.uk (Counihan M.J.) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse@ugent.be> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' Archnet: http://archnet.asu.edu and the physicists' Arxiv: http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists should consider. Regards, Martin Counihan University of Southampton -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Coussé Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Coussé Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 Göteborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From scat at cfl.rr.com Wed Jan 20 20:03:59 2010 From: scat at cfl.rr.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:03:59 -0500 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 From: Evie Couss? Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 To: Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 From: "Counihan M.J." Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' Archnet: http://archnet.asu.edu and the physicists' Arxiv: http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists should consider. Regards, Martin Counihan University of Southampton -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From luraghi at unipv.it Wed Jan 20 20:20:56 2010 From: luraghi at unipv.it (Silvia Luraghi) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:20:56 +0100 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <422DD6957D7C4CD4A8E19369938B9BBD@leordinateur> Message-ID: Dear Scott and list, as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) Silvia At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) > 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >From: Evie Couss? >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >To: >Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Dear colleagues, > >I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >developments. > >Yours, > >Evie Couss? > >Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >(Belgium) >Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >University of Gothenburg (Sweden) > >Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) > 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >From: "Scott" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >To: >Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >From: Claire Bowern >Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: histling-l >Message-ID: > <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >c04699/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >From: "Thurgood, Graham" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Domenec Mendez , > "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. > >Graham Thurgood > > >On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: > >Hi all, > >just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >good luck to everybody. > >Domenec > >www.livescripts.ning.com > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Joseph Salmons >Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Claire Bowern >Cc: histling-l > > >Thanks, Claire, for raising this. > >Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >deserves to be out there. > >The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) > >A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >welcome on its own terms. > >Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >could presumably be talked through. > >Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >to move forward. > >Joe > >On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >Editor, Diachronica >328 University Club >432 East Campus Mall >University of Wisconsin >Madison, WI 53706 >(608) 262-8180 >http:// diachronica.org > >joseph-salmons.net > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > > > > >Graham Thurgood >English Department >CSU Chico >Chico, CA 95929 > >http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >459dac/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >From: "Counihan M.J." >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" > >Message-ID: > ><3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Dear colleagues, > >I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >Archnet: > >http://archnet.asu.edu > >and the physicists' Arxiv: > >http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ > >might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: > >http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ > >In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >should consider. > >Regards, > >Martin Counihan >University of Southampton > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Dear colleagues, > >I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >developments. > >Yours, > >Evie Couss? > >Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >(Belgium) >Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >University of Gothenburg (Sweden) > >Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) > 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >From: "Scott" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >To: >Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >From: Claire Bowern >Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: histling-l >Message-ID: > <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >c04699/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >From: "Thurgood, Graham" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Domenec Mendez , > "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. > >Graham Thurgood > > >On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: > >Hi all, > >just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >good luck to everybody. > >Domenec > >www.livescripts.ning.com > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Joseph Salmons >Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Claire Bowern >Cc: histling-l > > >Thanks, Claire, for raising this. > >Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >deserves to be out there. > >The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) > >A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >welcome on its own terms. > >Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >could presumably be talked through. > >Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >to move forward. > >Joe > >On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >Editor, Diachronica >328 University Club >432 East Campus Mall >University of Wisconsin >Madison, WI 53706 >(608) 262-8180 >http:// diachronica.org > >joseph-salmons.net > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > > > > >Graham Thurgood >English Department >CSU Chico >Chico, CA 95929 > >http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >459dac/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >***************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >***************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Silvia Luraghi Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata Università di Pavia Strada Nuova 65 I-27100 Pavia telef.: +39-0382-984685 fax: +39-0382-984487 _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From jsalmons at wisc.edu Wed Jan 20 21:48:04 2010 From: jsalmons at wisc.edu (Joseph Salmons) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:48:04 -0600 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <4B4B3E900066B8FC@joe.mail.tiscali.sys> Message-ID: Well said, Silvia. An e-journal can escape some of the most annoying problems of print journals, like limits on numbers of pages per year or color illustrations and graphics. A repository for papers, including ones that haven't been reviewed, is another creature, like the Rutgers Optimality Archive (to give only one example), and could serve a purpose, though a very different one from a journal. Joe On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Silvia Luraghi wrote: > Dear Scott and list, > as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) > Silvia > > At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >> I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >> I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >> form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >> understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >> source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >> the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) >> 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >> From: Evie Couss? >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: >> Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >> From: "Counihan M.J." >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >> that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >> linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >> what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >> culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >> valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >> Archnet: >> >> http://archnet.asu.edu >> >> and the physicists' Arxiv: >> >> http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ >> >> might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: >> >> http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ >> >> In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >> repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >> with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >> well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >> there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >> should consider. >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Counihan >> University of Southampton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >> Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > Silvia Luraghi > Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata > Università di Pavia > Strada Nuova 65 > I-27100 Pavia > telef.: +39-0382-984685 > fax: +39-0382-984487 > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From scat at cfl.rr.com Sat Jan 23 00:26:50 2010 From: scat at cfl.rr.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:26:50 -0500 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would hope that all submissions would be subject to peer review but not to black-balling. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:48 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 (Joseph Salmons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:48:04 -0600 From: Joseph Salmons Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 To: Silvia Luraghi Cc: histling-l Message-ID: <07D2F7A7-8D3D-4A7E-B6D8-1B7BBEEC2D14 at wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well said, Silvia. An e-journal can escape some of the most annoying problems of print journals, like limits on numbers of pages per year or color illustrations and graphics. A repository for papers, including ones that haven't been reviewed, is another creature, like the Rutgers Optimality Archive (to give only one example), and could serve a purpose, though a very different one from a journal. Joe On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Silvia Luraghi wrote: > Dear Scott and list, > as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) > Silvia > > At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >> I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >> I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >> form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >> understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >> source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >> the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) >> 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >> From: Evie Couss? >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: >> Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >> From: "Counihan M.J." >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >> that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >> linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >> what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >> culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >> valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >> Archnet: >> >> http://archnet.asu.edu >> >> and the physicists' Arxiv: >> >> http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ >> >> might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: >> >> http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ >> >> In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >> repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >> with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >> well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >> there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >> should consider. >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Counihan >> University of Southampton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >> Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > Silvia Luraghi > Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata > Universit? di Pavia > Strada Nuova 65 > I-27100 Pavia > telef.: +39-0382-984685 > fax: +39-0382-984487 > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From Hubert.Cuyckens at arts.kuleuven.be Mon Jan 25 17:17:31 2010 From: Hubert.Cuyckens at arts.kuleuven.be (Hubert Cuyckens) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:17:31 +0100 Subject: 2nd CFP International Conference on Grammaticalization and (Inter)subjectification Message-ID: Apologies for cross-postings Dear list-members, Please note the 2nd CFP (in attachment) for the International Conference on Grammaticalization and (Inter)Subjectification, November 11-13, 2010 - Brussels (Belgium) Conference website: http://webh01.ua.ac.be/gramis/conference/conference.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Its main goal is to promote the exchange of ideas among researchers in the field, encouraging the discussion of particularly important topics and divulging recent advances in the study of the continent's indigenous languages. Editorial quality is assured by a peer-review process conducted by a qualified editorial board, constituted by linguists from a variety of theoretical orientations, geographic focuses, and institutional affiliations, all of which are actively involved in the analysis and documentation of South American languages. Cadernos de Etnoling??stica welcomes the submission of papers reporting on original (field, bibliographic, or both) research, descriptive or theoretical in nature, in all the subareas of our field; papers dealing with technical issues (best practices for electronic documentation, for instance) are particularly welcome. Each article is published as soon as it is approved by the editorial board, being assigned an individual issue number. Given its electronic nature, Cadernos de Etnoling??stica recommends, whenever appropriate, the use of audio and video resources to illustrate the linguistic phenomena under discussion. Details on the submission process can be found at http://www.etnolinguistica.org/cadernos:about Papers and notes published in our first volume (2009), dealing with historical, descriptive, and typological issues in both extinct and currently-spoken languages, illustrate well our journal's scope. They can be downloaded at http://www.etnolinguistica.org/cadernos:issues We, the editors, welcome any comments, suggestions, or queries on the submission process at the address editores at etnolinguistica.org Sincerely, J. 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Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From jsalmons at wisc.edu Sun Jan 17 18:09:42 2010 From: jsalmons at wisc.edu (Joseph Salmons) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:09:42 -0600 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > Dear all, > I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. > > Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) > > Claire > > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http://diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From luraghi at unipv.it Sun Jan 17 20:03:03 2010 From: luraghi at unipv.it (Silvia Luraghi) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:03:03 +0100 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics Message-ID: >>Dear all, >>Johanna Barddal and I have been discussing >>Claire's post, and have the feeling that the >>creation of an eLanguage cojournal for historical >>linguistics would respond to a need in our >>field. As we all know, waiting time for >>publication on existing journals is exceedingly long, >>and a new journal would help create more >>opportunities. We are willing to volunteer and >>assemble a group of people who may be >>interested in this enterprize and help us build >>a high quality editorial board. Please, contact us directly at: >>johanna.barddal at uib.no or silvia.luraghi at unipv.it >>if you feel you would like to join us and >>contribute to the establishment of this new >>journal, then we can discuss all issues regarding its mission. >>Best >>Silvia Luraghi and Johanna Barddal Silvia Luraghi Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata Universit? di Pavia Strada Nuova 65 I-27100 Pavia telef.: +39-0382-984685 fax: +39-0382-984487 _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From domenec.mendeth at gmail.com Sun Jan 17 20:11:36 2010 From: domenec.mendeth at gmail.com (Domenec Mendez) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:11:36 +0100 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <9F1437DB-5B4B-433B-ADA1-DAAD2768BD3E@wisc.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From GThurgood at csuchico.edu Mon Jan 18 01:26:48 2010 From: GThurgood at csuchico.edu (Thurgood, Graham) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 Subject: eLanguage and historical linguistics In-Reply-To: <3333ae571001171211u5b91c5efu78f14077d189cc83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From evie.cousse at ugent.be Wed Jan 20 07:59:58 2010 From: evie.cousse at ugent.be (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Evie_Couss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From counihan at soton.ac.uk Wed Jan 20 10:26:08 2010 From: counihan at soton.ac.uk (Counihan M.J.) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse@ugent.be> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' Archnet: http://archnet.asu.edu and the physicists' Arxiv: http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists should consider. Regards, Martin Counihan University of Southampton -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From scat at cfl.rr.com Wed Jan 20 20:03:59 2010 From: scat at cfl.rr.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:03:59 -0500 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 From: Evie Couss? Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 To: Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 From: "Counihan M.J." Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' Archnet: http://archnet.asu.edu and the physicists' Arxiv: http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists should consider. Regards, Martin Counihan University of Southampton -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Dear colleagues, I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new developments. Yours, Evie Couss? Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University (Belgium) Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, University of Gothenburg (Sweden) Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 To: Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 From: Claire Bowern Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: histling-l Message-ID: <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 From: "Thurgood, Graham" Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Domenec Mendez , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. Graham Thurgood On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: Hi all, just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. good luck to everybody. Domenec www.livescripts.ning.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Salmons Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics To: Claire Bowern Cc: histling-l Thanks, Claire, for raising this. Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that deserves to be out there. The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be welcome on its own terms. Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too could presumably be talked through. Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how to move forward. Joe On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: Dear all, I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way to raise the profile of our field. Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I just don't have the time.) Claire _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Editor, Diachronica 328 University Club 432 East Campus Mall University of Wisconsin Madison, WI 53706 (608) 262-8180 http:// diachronica.org joseph-salmons.net _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Graham Thurgood English Department CSU Chico Chico, CA 95929 http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From luraghi at unipv.it Wed Jan 20 20:20:56 2010 From: luraghi at unipv.it (Silvia Luraghi) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:20:56 +0100 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <422DD6957D7C4CD4A8E19369938B9BBD@leordinateur> Message-ID: Dear Scott and list, as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) Silvia At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) > 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >From: Evie Couss? >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >To: >Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Dear colleagues, > >I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >developments. > >Yours, > >Evie Couss? > >Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >(Belgium) >Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >University of Gothenburg (Sweden) > >Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) > 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >From: "Scott" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >To: >Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >From: Claire Bowern >Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: histling-l >Message-ID: > <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >c04699/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >From: "Thurgood, Graham" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Domenec Mendez , > "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. > >Graham Thurgood > > >On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: > >Hi all, > >just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >good luck to everybody. > >Domenec > >www.livescripts.ning.com > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Joseph Salmons >Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Claire Bowern >Cc: histling-l > > >Thanks, Claire, for raising this. > >Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >deserves to be out there. > >The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) > >A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >welcome on its own terms. > >Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >could presumably be talked through. > >Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >to move forward. > >Joe > >On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >Editor, Diachronica >328 University Club >432 East Campus Mall >University of Wisconsin >Madison, WI 53706 >(608) 262-8180 >http:// diachronica.org > >joseph-salmons.net > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > > > > >Graham Thurgood >English Department >CSU Chico >Chico, CA 95929 > >http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >459dac/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >From: "Counihan M.J." >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" > >Message-ID: > ><3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Dear colleagues, > >I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >Archnet: > >http://archnet.asu.edu > >and the physicists' Arxiv: > >http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ > >might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: > >http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ > >In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >should consider. > >Regards, > >Martin Counihan >University of Southampton > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Dear colleagues, > >I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >developments. > >Yours, > >Evie Couss? > >Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >(Belgium) >Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >University of Gothenburg (Sweden) > >Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) > 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >From: "Scott" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >To: >Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. > >N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >Professor Emeritus >history & languages > > >-----Original Message----- >From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >[mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 > >Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to > histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu > >You can reach the person managing the list at > histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >From: Claire Bowern >Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: histling-l >Message-ID: > <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >c04699/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >***************************************** > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >From: "Thurgood, Graham" >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Domenec Mendez , > "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. > >Graham Thurgood > > >On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: > >Hi all, > >just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >good luck to everybody. > >Domenec > >www.livescripts.ning.com > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Joseph Salmons >Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >To: Claire Bowern >Cc: histling-l > > >Thanks, Claire, for raising this. > >Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >deserves to be out there. > >The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) > >A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >welcome on its own terms. > >Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >could presumably be talked through. > >Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >to move forward. > >Joe > >On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: > >Dear all, >I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >"cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. > >It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >to raise the profile of our field. > >Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >just don't have the time.) > >Claire > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >Editor, Diachronica >328 University Club >432 East Campus Mall >University of Wisconsin >Madison, WI 53706 >(608) 262-8180 >http:// diachronica.org > >joseph-salmons.net > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > > > > >Graham Thurgood >English Department >CSU Chico >Chico, CA 95929 > >http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: >459dac/attachment-0001.html> > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >***************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > >End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >***************************************** > >_______________________________________________ >Histling-l mailing list >Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l Silvia Luraghi Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata Universit? di Pavia Strada Nuova 65 I-27100 Pavia telef.: +39-0382-984685 fax: +39-0382-984487 _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From jsalmons at wisc.edu Wed Jan 20 21:48:04 2010 From: jsalmons at wisc.edu (Joseph Salmons) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:48:04 -0600 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <4B4B3E900066B8FC@joe.mail.tiscali.sys> Message-ID: Well said, Silvia. An e-journal can escape some of the most annoying problems of print journals, like limits on numbers of pages per year or color illustrations and graphics. A repository for papers, including ones that haven't been reviewed, is another creature, like the Rutgers Optimality Archive (to give only one example), and could serve a purpose, though a very different one from a journal. Joe On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Silvia Luraghi wrote: > Dear Scott and list, > as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) > Silvia > > At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >> I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >> I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >> form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >> understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >> source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >> the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) >> 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >> From: Evie Couss? >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: >> Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >> From: "Counihan M.J." >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >> that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >> linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >> what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >> culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >> valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >> Archnet: >> >> http://archnet.asu.edu >> >> and the physicists' Arxiv: >> >> http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ >> >> might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: >> >> http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ >> >> In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >> repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >> with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >> well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >> there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >> should consider. >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Counihan >> University of Southampton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >> Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > Silvia Luraghi > Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata > Universit? di Pavia > Strada Nuova 65 > I-27100 Pavia > telef.: +39-0382-984685 > fax: +39-0382-984487 > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From scat at cfl.rr.com Sat Jan 23 00:26:50 2010 From: scat at cfl.rr.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:26:50 -0500 Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would hope that all submissions would be subject to peer review but not to black-balling. N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD Professor Emeritus history & languages -----Original Message----- From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:48 PM To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to histling-l at mailman.rice.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu You can reach the person managing the list at histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 (Joseph Salmons) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:48:04 -0600 From: Joseph Salmons Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 To: Silvia Luraghi Cc: histling-l Message-ID: <07D2F7A7-8D3D-4A7E-B6D8-1B7BBEEC2D14 at wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well said, Silvia. An e-journal can escape some of the most annoying problems of print journals, like limits on numbers of pages per year or color illustrations and graphics. A repository for papers, including ones that haven't been reviewed, is another creature, like the Rutgers Optimality Archive (to give only one example), and could serve a purpose, though a very different one from a journal. Joe On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Silvia Luraghi wrote: > Dear Scott and list, > as far as the discussion has been developing up to now, I don't think we're talking of a repository where people can upload they unpublished papers, we're talking of a peer-reviewed online piublication, which is the reason why it should be a co-journal of eLanguage: this should per se guarantee high quality. I personally think that it is not the right approach to say that such an ejournal would ape print journals, I rather think that it is in everybody's interest to have a quotable publication, nobody wants to waste energy to set up a collection of papers with an unclear scholarly status (I think so, at least) > Silvia > > At 21.03 20/01/2010, Scott wrote: >> I strongly disagree with Professor Martin Counihan on the format. >> I wish to be absolutely certain that the e-journal will be in a citable >> form and not degenerate into some type of Wiki. His description, if I >> understand it correctly, sounds too loose to be cited as an academic >> source. If I am wrong, I have an open mind on the subject; however, >> the issue of qualifying as an academic citation is a vital issue to me. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Evie Couss?) >> 2. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 (Counihan M.J.) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:59:58 +0100 >> From: Evie Couss? >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: >> Message-ID: <001701ca99a6$8fff1400$affd3c00$@cousse at ugent.be> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:26:08 +0000 >> From: "Counihan M.J." >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> To: Evie Couss? , "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> >> Message-ID: >> >> <3FCFFE8EA2CE564D879F05C8A0B7A6FA975439CCD0 at UOS-CL-EX7-L4.soton.ac.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have followed this discussion with great interest. I agree wholeheartedly >> that there is a need for an open electronic publishing system for historical >> linguistics, but I am not convinced that the LSA eLanguage system is exactly >> what is needed. Rather than an online journal which apes the structure and >> culture of a print journal, a more open and informal system might be more >> valuable to the community. A sort of cross between the archaeologists' >> Archnet: >> >> http://archnet.asu.edu >> >> and the physicists' Arxiv: >> >> http://xxx.soton.ac.uk/ >> >> might fit the bill. This is also worth a glance: >> >> http://www.osti.gov/eprints/ >> >> In other disciplines a great deal of work has been done to build up online >> repositories so that papers will be securely stored but can be easily found, >> with individuals being able to quickly upload their work in preprint form as >> well as in final peer-reviewed form. The LSA/eLanguage system is good, but >> there is a much wider range of possibilities which historical linguists >> should consider. >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Counihan >> University of Southampton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of Evie Couss? >> Sent: 20 January 2010 08:00 >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I am very keen on contributing to an additional international journal on >> historical Linguistics, being a historical linguist myself and being faced >> with quite limited publication possibilities. Please keep me posted on new >> developments. >> >> Yours, >> >> Evie Couss? >> >> Assistant professor at the Department of Dutch Linguistics, Ghent University >> (Belgium) >> Associate professor at the Department of Languages and Literatures, >> University of Gothenburg (Sweden) >> >> Contact information spring semester 2009-2010 >> University of Gothenburg, Department of languages and literatures >> Visiting address: Lundgrensgatan 7, Room H714, Gothenburg, Sweden >> Mail address: Box 200, 405 30 G?teborg, Sweden >> Phone: + 46 (0)31 7864589 >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] Namens >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Verzonden: maandag 18 januari 2010 19:00 >> Aan: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Onderwerp: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 (Scott) >> 2. Re: eLanguage and historical linguistics (Thurgood, Graham) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:24:14 -0500 >> From: "Scott" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> To: >> Message-ID: <0D32A43B2E22484B9EC11B814F7FF8F2 at leordinateur> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I would be very interested in such an e-journal; unhappily, my health >> is too uncertain for me to volunteer any assistance. >> >> N. Scott Catledge, PhD/STD >> Professor Emeritus >> history & languages >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu >> [mailto:histling-l-bounces at mailman.rice.edu] On Behalf Of >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:01 PM >> To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> Subject: Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> >> Send Histling-l mailing list submissions to >> histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> histling-l-request at mailman.rice.edu >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> histling-l-owner at mailman.rice.edu >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Histling-l digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. eLanguage and historical linguistics (Claire Bowern) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:52:59 -0500 >> From: Claire Bowern >> Subject: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: histling-l >> Message-ID: >> <59c9c4cc1001170752r4a0ca64o8c3078964996ee12 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > c04699/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 2 >> ***************************************** >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 17:26:48 -0800 >> From: "Thurgood, Graham" >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Domenec Mendez , >> "histling-l at mailman.rice.edu" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Such a journal would be of great interest. If I can help, let me know. >> >> Graham Thurgood >> >> >> On 1/17/10 12:11 PM, "Domenec Mendez" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> just chipping in with my 10 cents for this new publication. >> good luck to everybody. >> >> Domenec >> >> www.livescripts.ning.com >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Joseph Salmons >> Date: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Histling-l] eLanguage and historical linguistics >> To: Claire Bowern >> Cc: histling-l >> >> >> Thanks, Claire, for raising this. >> >> Speaking as the editor of one of the few existing journals dedicated to >> language change, I personally would welcome the development of a new >> e-journal and/or print journal in the field. Yes, we at Diachronica are >> being pretty much overwhelmed with submissions, far more than we can >> publish, and this is generally work of high quality -- it's material that >> deserves to be out there. >> >> The new LabPhon journal might be one model for how to move forward, and it's >> consistent with what you suggest. I don't know exactly, but I believe they >> assembled a committee to discuss things, develop a focus, work with possible >> publishers, etc. Agreeing to join a group of 10-12 people would be less >> taxing than taking the lead alone. (I don't have time to lead the effort >> either -- thanks to the traffic at Diachronica, largely -- but I'd >> appreciate at least knowing what's happening.) >> >> A key issue will be finding the right focus -- something that differentiates >> any new journal sufficiently from Diachronica, FLH and other outlets. For >> instance, at Diachronica, if a paper doesn't make a pretty directly >> theoretical contribution to understanding language change (along with >> careful empirical angles, of course), its chances of acceptance drop >> dramatically. It would be great to have a general historical journal that >> doesn't insist on that -- where a good analysis of historical data would be >> welcome on its own terms. >> >> Another issue may be that some might have concerns about creating an >> e-journal (such as eLanguage) rather than a print journal, but that too >> could presumably be talked through. >> >> Let's hope your message will generate some discussion on the list about how >> to move forward. >> >> Joe >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Claire Bowern wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> I'd like to bring histling subscribers' attention to the LSA's eLanguage >> cojournal site (http://elanguage.net/). eLanguage is set up as a set of >> "cojournals" (that is, independent journals with their own editorial boards >> and referee process), but with a single web host and related infrastructure. >> >> It would be great if historical linguistics had its own cojournal. Some >> informal discussions I've had would indicate that there's considerable >> interest in a new historical journal, that the current outlets for >> historical journal publications have no shortage of quality submissions and >> that a new publication would not hurt them, and that it would be a good way >> to raise the profile of our field. >> >> Would someone be interested in taking this on? Information about proposing a >> cojournal can be found here: http://elanguage.net/propose.php Perhaps a >> small group of histling subscribers would be interested in getting together >> to put a proposal together? (note, I'm not volunteering; unfortunately, I >> just don't have the time.) >> >> Claire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> Editor, Diachronica >> 328 University Club >> 432 East Campus Mall >> University of Wisconsin >> Madison, WI 53706 >> (608) 262-8180 >> http:// diachronica.org >> >> joseph-salmons.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> >> >> >> Graham Thurgood >> English Department >> CSU Chico >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> http://www.csuchico.edu/%7Egt18/GWT_Homepage.html >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > 459dac/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 4 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l >> >> >> End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 >> ***************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Histling-l mailing list >> Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu >> https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l > > Silvia Luraghi > Dipartimento di Linguistica Teorica e Applicata > Universit? di Pavia > Strada Nuova 65 > I-27100 Pavia > telef.: +39-0382-984685 > fax: +39-0382-984487 > _______________________________________________ > Histling-l mailing list > Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu > https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l End of Histling-l Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Histling-l mailing list Histling-l at mailman.rice.edu https://mailman.rice.edu/mailman/listinfo/histling-l From Hubert.Cuyckens at arts.kuleuven.be Mon Jan 25 17:17:31 2010 From: Hubert.Cuyckens at arts.kuleuven.be (Hubert Cuyckens) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:17:31 +0100 Subject: 2nd CFP International Conference on Grammaticalization and (Inter)subjectification Message-ID: Apologies for cross-postings Dear list-members, Please note the 2nd CFP (in attachment) for the International Conference on Grammaticalization and (Inter)Subjectification, November 11-13, 2010 - Brussels (Belgium) Conference website: http://webh01.ua.ac.be/gramis/conference/conference.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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