<head><style>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</style></head><body id="compText"><style>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</style>There is also OE genoh > ME ynow, ynogh > NE enough and OE gewis > ME ywis 'surely'; these would seem to indicate that the conditioning factor was phonological, ie in unstressed syllables immediately before a stressed syllable. While most of these examples would come from the perfect participles, there were other instances. <br><br>Consider the fate of OE final [n]. It was lost in NE (and already in ONorthumbrian and OFris.) in the infinitive and the nominative plural of n-stem nouns; OE writan > NE write; naman > NE name; but it is partially preserved in the perfect participle OE (ge)writen, (ge)giefen > NE written, given. OFris. writa, nama, Now it is certainly subject to later deletion if there is another [n] in the stem ie OE (ge)funden, gesungen > NE found, sung. <br><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Roger Lass <lass@iafrica.com>
<br>Sent: Dec 1, 2012 4:36 AM
<br>To: histling-l@mailman.rice.edu
<br>Subject: [Histling-l] FW: Histling-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 7
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</o:idmap></o:shapelayout></xml><zzz![endif]--></zzz![endif]--></zzz!--[if></zzz![endif]--></zzz!--[if></zzzmeta></zzzmeta></zzzhead><zzzbody link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-ZA"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> Guillaume Jacques [mailto:rgyalrongskad@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 01 December 2012 01:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Roger Lass<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Dear professor Lass,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think that your message was sent only to me, you may need to send it again to the list <span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:histling-l@mailman.rice.edu">histling-l@mailman.rice.edu</a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Best regards,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Guillaume Jacques</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2012/12/1 Roger Lass <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:lass@iafrica.com">lass@iafrica.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just another remark on something that might belong here. There is a change that occurs in many Middle English dialects, where the OE past participle prefix ge- [je] < [i], spelled i or y. It can also delete, but when it remains after about the 13<sup>th</sup> century it occurs only in that form. It persists variably up to at least the 17<sup>th</sup> century, usually spelled y, as in yclept ‘called’ < OE ge-cleopod. No other instances of [je] do this as far as I know, so the change is not only restricted to a particular morphological category but to one member of the category. There are also cases of metathesis and epenthesis in Middle English restricted only to two lexical items, and at least one sound change in Irish that is restricted to one item. I can provide references on those two cases if anybody is interested.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">RL</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:histling-l-bounces@mailman.rice.edu">histling-l-bounces@mailman.rice.edu</a> [mailto:<a target="_blank" href="mailto:histling-l-bounces@mailman.rice.edu">histling-l-bounces@mailman.rice.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Guillaume Jacques<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 December 2012 01:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:histling-l@mailman.rice.edu">histling-l@mailman.rice.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Histling-l] Histling-l Digest, Vol 67, Issue 7</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I would be very grateful for any discussion of this or advice on<br>treatments of this question in literature.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This phonetic change in Nahuatl is discussed by Campbell and Langacker 1978, part II (in International Journal of American Linguistics), p.201, ft 43. I think that they were the first to propose a morphological conditioning for the loss of initial *p- (preservation only in verbs and some kinship terms, because they are generally prefixed and therefore *p is not word-initial in at least part of the paradigm).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-- <br>Guillaume Jacques<br>CNRS (CRLAO) - INALCO<br><a target="_blank" href="http://xiang.free.fr">http://xiang.free.fr</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/export_listeperso_xml.php?url_id=0000000003849">http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/export_listeperso_xml.php?url_id=0000000003849</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>Guillaume Jacques<br>CNRS (CRLAO) - INALCO<br><a target="_blank" href="http://xiang.free.fr">http://xiang.free.fr</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/export_listeperso_xml.php?url_id=0000000003849">http://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/export_listeperso_xml.php?url_id=0000000003849</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></zzzbody></zzzhtml></lass@iafrica.com></blockquote></body>