From ebashir at umich.edu  Sat Oct  4 16:58:05 1997
From: ebashir at umich.edu (E. Bashir)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:58:05 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SAT.4.OCT.1997.125805.EDT.EBASHIR@UMICH.EDU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would be grateful for any references to work on diachronic developments
of agentive/ergative markers/postpositions--either before or after their
aentive/ergative stage.  Thank you.
 
 
E. Bashir
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
3070 Frieze Bldg.
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109
 
Department Office Phone: (313) 764-8286 (messages only)
Personal Office Phone:  (313) 764-0214
Fax: (313) 647-0157
Note:  Area code changes to 734 effective 12/13/97


From DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU  Sat Oct  4 17:04:19 1997
From: DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU (Dorothy Disterheft)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:04:19 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SAT.4.OCT.1997.130419.EDT.DISTERH@UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU>

Date:  Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:02:14 +0100
From:  Javier Martinez Garcia <martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de>
Subject:  6. Int. Conf--Use of Computers in Historical and Comparative
         Linguistics
 
 
            6. International Conference about the Use of Computers
                     in Historical and Comparative Linguistics
                       Frankfurt a.M., 21-24 October 1997
 
 
            Contents:
            I. The preliminary conference programme
            II. A preliminary list of participants
            III. Information materials about Frankfurt
 
 
      The materials as enclosed here can also be found under the
following internet address (URL):
      http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/curric/frankf-97b.html
      We look forward to meet you in Frankfurt!
 
      Preliminary Conference Programme
 
            Di. 21.10
            10:00 Begrung
            10:30 Josef Wallmannsberger -- Corpora travelling on a
            shoestring: The arte povera
            of CD-Romance
            --
            11:30 Cirilo Garcia Roman -- La elaboracion electronica de
            indices y concordancias de
            textos bilingues: soluciones practicas a problemas tecnicos.
 
            12:00 Fco. Javier Martinez Garcia -- ??
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
 
            14:30 Eva Maria Lill -- The future user of a dictionary -
            will he be better informed than
            ever? The use of machine readable full texts and electronic
            facsimiles in the making of
            the 'Deutsches Rechtswrterbuch'
            15:00 Klaus Barger -- Flexionsmorphologie der deutschen
            Verben der
            Gegenwartssprache. Entwicklung einer Datenbank im Rahmen der
            Natrlichkeitstheorie.
            16:00
            16:30
 
 
            Mi. 22.10
            10:00 Daniel Ria1o Rufilanchas -- Analisis y etiquetado
            sintactico del corpus de los
            textos clasicos. Perspectivas y modelos.
            10:30 Jose Antonio Berenguer Sanchez -- Greek Lexicography
            & Indoeuropean
            Lexicography and Internet
            --
            11:30 Arash Zeini -- Ein Digitales Iranisches Wrterbuch
            12:00 Jesus-Luis Cunchillos Ilarri -- El Analizador
            Morfologico Ugartico
 
            -- AUSFLUG --
 
 
            Do. 23.10
            10:00 Istvn. S. Batori -- Das Projekt UEDB
            10:30 Hansje Braam -- CALC Project (Central Asian Languages
            Corpora)
            --
            11:30 Makasa Kasonde -- Computers and Didactics: Preparation
            and Dissemination of
            Teaching Materials: The Case of Comparative Bantu.
            12:00 Harald Vajkonny -- From text to dictionary:
            Computer-aided research on minority
            languages
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
            14:30 Jost Gippert -- Multilingual Text Retrievel:
            Requirements and Solutions.
            15:00-17:30 Workshop: Full text retrieval -- WordCruncher
 
 
            Fr. 24.10
            10:00 Johann Tischler -- Dresdner Aktivitten. Bericht ber
            laufende Projekte.
            10:30 Petr Zemanek -- ??
            --
            11:30 Petr Vavrouek -- Digitalisierung von
            Keilschrifttafeln
            12:00 Svetlana Vyvenko -- Vernetzungsarten in einem
            etymologischen Hypernetz
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
            14:30-17:30 Workshop: UNICODE
 
 
 
            Bureau/Contacting Address:
                  Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft
                  Georg Voigt Str. 6
                  Postfach 11 19 32
                  D 60054 Frankfurt.
 
                  Tel: +49 69 7982 3139
                  Fax: +49 69 7982 2873
                  email: martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de
                  WWW: http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de
 
-
  Dr. Fco. Javier Martinez Garcia ~ Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft
  Universitat Frankfurt  ~   Postfach 11 19 32  ~  D-60054 Frankfurt
  tel. +49- 69- 7982-2847;  (sekr.) -3139  ~ fax. +49- 69- 7982-2873


From ac6000 at wayne.edu  Fri Oct 10 14:52:24 1997
From: ac6000 at wayne.edu (Martha Ratliff)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:52:24 EDT
Subject: 6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics
Message-ID: <FRI.10.OCT.1997.105224.EDT.AC6000@WAYNE.EDU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
 
The 6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics -- "Prosody and Language
Change" -- will be held in Detroit, Michigan on November 15-16, 1997 under
the sponsorship of the Wayne State University Linguistics Program. The
workshop will be held at the River Place Hotel in Detroit.  Should you wish
to attend and are from out of area, you will need to make a reservation at
the River Place Hotel by Tuesday, October 14th in order to get the reduced
rate of $79/room (regardless of number of guests).  Please call
1-800-890-9505 and say that you are attending the "Wayne State University
linguistics meeting".  Should you have further questions, please contact me
by email.
 
Yours,  Martha Ratliff (martha_ratliff at wayne.edu)
 
****************************************************************************
6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics
 
"Prosody and Language Change"
 
Sponsored by the Linguistics Program, College of Liberal Arts, and the
Office of Research and Graduate Studies at Wayne State University
 
The River Place Hotel
The Huron Room
November 15-16, 1997
 
Friday, November 14th
from 7 p.m. on . . .    Informal socializing in the Tavern, the River Place
Hotel
 
Saturday, November 15th
8:00-8:35               Registration and Continental Breakfast
 
8:35-8:45               Welcoming Remarks
 
SESSION 1:  METER
8:45-9:30               "Vedic meter and the reflexes of Indo-European
laryngeals"              Gary Holland, University of California, Berkeley
 
9:30-10:15              "A new approach to the Saturnian verse"
                        Jedidiah Parsons, University of California, Berkeley
 
10:15-10:35             Discussion (Brian Joseph, Ohio State University)
 
10:35-10:55             BREAK
 
SESSION 2:  PITCH ACCENT
10:55-11:40             "Relating stress, tone and stod in Scandinavian"
                        Tomas Riad, University of Stockholm
 
11:40-12:00             Discussion (Joe Salmons, University of Wisconsin)
 
12:00-1:30              LUNCH
 
SESSION 3:  REGISTER AND TONE
1:30-2:15               "Registrogenesis as part of a complex of
transphonologization processes"
                        Keith Denning, Eastern Michigan University
 
2:15-3:00               "Genesis and evolution in register and tone
systems: the processes and their reconstruction"
                        Graham Thurgood, California State University, Fresno
 
3:00-3:45               "Segment, tone, and prosody in the history of Chinese"
                        William Baxter, University of Michigan
 
3:45-4:05               Discussion (Martha Ratliff, Wayne State University)
 
4:05-4:25               BREAK
 
SESSION 4:  LENGTH AND REACH
4:25-5:10               "The natural history of geminates"
                        Paul Newman, Indiana University
 
5:10-5:55               "From morphology to phonology, but within the same
prosodic domain: on the differential (in)stability of the factors
conditioning                    German umlaut"
                        Richard Janda, University of Chicago
 
5:55-6:15               Discussion
 
7:30    DINNER at Jacoby's Restaurant, Detroit
Cost:  $18 per person (notify Martha Ratliff by 11/7 of your intention to come)
 
Sunday, November 16th
8:00-8:45               Registration and Continental Breakfast
 
SESSION 5:  PHONETICS OF PROSODY
8:45-9:30               "The place of phonetics in the recovery of stress,
accent, and other prosodic structures"
                        Mary Beckman, Ohio State University
 
9:30-9:50               Discussion (Michael Broe, Northwestern University)
 
SESSION 6:  SYLLABLE AND WORD STRUCTURE
9:50-10:35              "Prosodic units in diachronic templates"
                        Marlys Macken, University of Wisconsin, Madison
 
10:35-10:55             BREAK
 
10:55-11:40             "Syllable reduction in Rejang and Malay"
                        Richard McGinn, Ohio University
 
11:40-12:25     "Stress and the development of disyllabic vocabulary in
Chinese"
                        San Duanmu, University of Michigan
 
12:25-12:45             Discussion (Mary Niepokuj, Purdue University)
 
 
End of Workshop


From manaster at umich.edu  Mon Oct 13 15:00:22 1997
From: manaster at umich.edu (manaster at umich.edu)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:00:22 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19971013163342.0d8f734c@bamse.ling.su.se>
Message-ID: <MON.13.OCT.1997.110022.EDT.>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Actually, Swadesh himself did point out that different parts of teh list
change at different rates. I believe Dyen did some later work on this.
In a diffeent way, by producing an ordering acc. to likelihood of
replacement but without giving any paercentages, Dolgopol'skij addressed
essentially the same question in the early 60's.  But, of course, a
number of examples have been cited which show that there is no single
universal rate, even one by Swadesh himself, though I think he simply
argued that suche xamples are very rare--which may be true.
 
Alexis MR
 
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mikael Parkvall wrote:
 
> If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
> himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
> the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
> items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
> than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
> morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
>
>
> Mikael Parkvall
> parkvall at ling.su.se
>
>


From parkvall at ling.su.se  Mon Oct 13 14:32:34 1997
From: parkvall at ling.su.se (Mikael Parkvall)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:32:34 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
Message-ID: <MON.13.OCT.1997.103234.EDT.PARKVALL@LING.SU.SE>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
 
 
Mikael Parkvall
parkvall at ling.su.se


From ml10003 at cus.cam.ac.uk  Tue Oct 14 19:19:39 1997
From: ml10003 at cus.cam.ac.uk (Marisa Lohr)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:19:39 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19971013163342.0d8f734c@bamse.ling.su.se>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.OCT.1997.151939.EDT.ML10003@CUS.CAM.AC.UK>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mikael Parkvall wrote:
 
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
> himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
> the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
> items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
> than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
> morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
>
> Mikael Parkvall
> parkvall at ling.su.se
 
Dyen (1964) demonstrated that different parts of list have different
replacement rates, and found statistically significant correlations
in the ordering of rates for particular parts of the list in a comparison
of Malayo-Polynesian, Indo-European, and, with Kruskal and Black (1973)
Philippine and Cushitic also.  Joos (1964) and Van der Merwe (1966)
suggested dividing the list into subsections with different retention
rates; while Dyen assumed a distinct rate for each word, sought to
calculate this, and put forward a method for combining this information to
give an overall rate (Dyen, James and Cole 1967; Kruskal, Dyen and Black
1973).
 
I have done some work on the retentiveness of basic vocabulary, examining
over 450 words, with a significant overlap with Swadesh's lists.  Although
I did not examine bound morphemes, I did not find a absolute distinction
between "more grammatical" and "more lexical" items in terms of
retentiveness.  For example, the most retentive set of words I found
included the 1sg. pers. pronoun, low numerals excluding "one", the 3sg.
pres. of the verb "to be", the verb "to lick" and the nouns "nail" (on
finger), "wolf" and "name".  However, for the list as a whole, the
proportion of "grammatical" items does grow smaller in comparison with
purely lexical items as the retentiveness of the words decreases.  I
should say that the work was based entirely on Indo-European data;
however, inasmuch as comparison with Kruskal, Dyen and Black's (1973)
figures for Philippine was possible, the ordering of replacement rates for
different sets of words showed a very strong correlation for the two
language families.
 
Refs.
 
Dyen, Isidore (1964) 'On the Validity of Comparative Lexicostatistics' in
"Proceedings of the Ninth International Congress of Linguists" ed. Horace
G Lunt (Mouton, The Hague), 238-52
 
Dyen, Isidore, Alan James, JWL Cole (1967) 'Language Divergence and
Estimated Word Retention Rate'
 
Kruskal, Joseph B, Isidore Dyen, Paul Black (1973) 'Some Results from the
Vocabulary Method of Reconstructing Language Trees' in "Lexicostatistics
in Genetic Linguistics.  Proceedings of the Yale Conference" ed. Dyen
(Mouton, The Hague), 30-55
 
Joos, Martin (1964) 'Glottochronology with Retention-Rate Inhomogeneity'
(abstract) in "Proceedings of the Ninth International Congress of
Linguists" ed. Lunt, 237
 
Van der Merwe (1966) 'New Mathematics for Glottochronology': Current
Anthropology 7, 485-500
 
 
Marisa Lohr


From msharpe at metz.une.edu.au  Thu Oct 16 15:58:57 1997
From: msharpe at metz.une.edu.au (Margaret Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:58:57 EDT
Subject: for Histling list
Message-ID: <THU.16.OCT.1997.115857.EDT.MSHARPE@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In response to Marisa Lohr, a useful additional article is one by Barry
Alpher 1990 'Some Proto-Pama-Nyungan paradigms: a verb in the hand is worth
two in the phylum', in G.N. O'Grady and D.T. Tryon (eds) Studies in
Comparative Pama-Nyungan, Pacifi Linguistics C-111: 155-171.  Alpher
compares full verb forms, not just stems and affixes, in various
Pama-Nyungan languages, and comes up with some differing reconstructions to
what another writer has suggested.


From martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de  Fri Oct 17 14:38:15 1997
From: martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de (Javier Martinez)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:38:15 EDT
Subject: Armenisch / Armenio/ Armenian
Message-ID: <FRI.17.OCT.1997.103815.EDT.MARTINEZ@EM.UNIFRANKFURT.DE>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Einladung zu einem Blockseminar
      von Jos Weitenberg,
      Universitdt Leiden,
 
      Einf|hrung ins Armenische
      14.-18. September 1998
      10.00 bis 17.00 Uhr tdglich
 
      Anmeldung und Information:
      Prof. Dr. M. Meier-Br|gger,
      Seminar f|r Vergleichende und Indogermanische Sprachwissenschaft
      Fabeckstra_e 7
      D-14195 Berlin
 
      Tel.: +49- 30- 838 5028
      Fax: +49- 30- 838 4207
      email: drmeier at zedat.fu-berlin.de
_____________
TITUS: http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/neu.htm


From DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU  Fri Oct 17 22:38:14 1997
From: DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU (Dorothy Disterheft)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:38:14 EDT
Subject: Minutes, XIII. ICHL
Message-ID: <FRI.17.OCT.1997.183814.EDT.DISTERH@UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU>

Note: The following report has been sent both to HISTLING and to
current members of the International Society of Historical Linguistics.
Apologies to those who receive both mailings.
 
                 Minutes of the Business Meeting,
              XIII. ICHL, Duesseldorf August 15, 1997
 
I. REPORTS OF OFFICERS
 
1. President's report
 
Dieter Stein thanked his staff for their help in
organizing the conference; he also acknowledged funding from the
Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft and Heinrich Heine University,
Duesseldorf.
 
The deadline for submitting papers for inclusion in the proceedings is
September 15. Contributors should submit three hard copies which should
be no more than 20 double-spaced pages with generous margins (Times 12
font); no diskettes are to be sent until  papers have been accepted for
inclusion. The volume will be refereed and carry the title Historical
Linguistics 1997.
 
2. Past President's report, John Charles Smith on behalf of Nigel
Vincent
 
Following the extremely large number of high-quality papers
submitted for publication (of the 120 or so papers presented, 62 were
submitted, and, after anonymous external refereeing, 43 of these were
accepted), there will be two volumes deriving from the general sessions
of the Twelfth ICHL (Manchester 1995), which will appear under the title
Historical Linguistics 1995.  Volume 1, edited by John Charles Smith and
Delia Bentley, will deal with general issues and non-Germanic languages;
volume 2, edited by Richard Hogg and Linda van Bergen, will be devoted
to Germanic languages. Both volumes will be published by John Benjamins,
of Amsterdam and Philadelphia, and will appear early in 1998.
 
Nigel Vincent is editing a volume containing most of the plenary talks and
the papers given at the workshop on syntactic change. Arrangements for
publication of the papers presented at the other two workshops are being
handled by the respective organizers.
 
3. Future Conference Organizer's report
 
Laurel Brinton announced that XIV. ICHL  will be held in
Vancouver, August 9-13, 1999. The e-mail address for the conference is
ichlxiv at interchange.ubc.ca. Abstracts will be due by October 15, 1998.
Workshop proposals should be submitted by June 1998.
 
II. SECRETARY'S ANNOUNCEMENTS, DOROTHY DISTERHEFT
 
1. HISTLING, the electronic discussion list dedicated to historical
linguistics, is flourishing with over 480 subscribers. While it is the
official e-mail list of ISHL, nonmembers are also welcome to join. Those
who would like to be added to the list should contact Dorothy
Disterheft.
 
2. The viability of ISHL depends upon the willingness of its members to
host conferences. To be truly international, the Society encourages
conferences to be held in as many areas of the world as possible. After
this conference, ICHL will leave Europe to be held in North America and
then in Australia (if the current nomination is approved by members).
After that, it will be time for ICHL to return to Europe, but as of now,
no expressions of interest have come from Europe, while two universities
in North America have indicated their interest for 2003. The secretary
encouraged nominations from Europe in order to continue the rotation;
all inquiries should be directed to Marianne Mithun
(mithun at humanitas.ucsb.edu), who will chair the Nominating Committee.
 
3. The deaths of two ISHL members, Andrzej Danchev and Otmar Werner,
were announced.
 
4. Dorothy Disterheft will soon set up a permanent web page for ISHL; it
will contain information on past conferences and conference proceedings,
along with links to the current conference.
 
5. The following slate from the Nominating Committee was moved by the
secretary:
 
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
President                   Laurel Brinton, Vancouver, BC
Future Conference Director  Barry Blake, Melbourne, Australia
Secretary                   Dorothy Disterheft, Columbia, SC
Former President            Dieter Stein, Duesseldorf, Germany
Member (till 2003)          Kate Burridge, Melbourne, Australia
 
NOMINATING COMMITTEE
Member (till 2005)          Martin Maiden, Oxford, England
 
 
The nominees were elected unanimously.
 
This results in the following membership of the two standing committees:
 
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
President                  Laurel Brinton, Vancouver, British Columbia
Future Conference Director Barry Blake, Melbourne, Australia
Former President           Dieter Stein, Dsseldorf, Germany
Secretary                  Dorothy Disterheft, Columbia, South Carolina
Member (1999)              Sheila Embleton, York, Ontario
Member (2001)              Alice Harris, Nashville, Tennessee
Member (2003)              Kate Burridge, Melbourne, Australia
 
NOMINATING COMMITTEE
Chair (1999)               Marianne Mithun, Santa Barbara, California
Member (2001)              Roger Wright, Liverpool, England
Member (2003)              Bernd Heine, Cologne, Germany
Member (2005)              Martin Maiden, Oxford, England
 
 
III. NEWLY ELECTED FUTURE CONFERENCE ORGANIZER'S REPORT, BARRY BLAKE
 
XV. ICHL will be held in August 2001 in downtown Melbourne, after the
Pacific Rim Conference in Santa Barbara.
 
IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR:
 
1. Denis Dumas, University of Quebec at Montreal, publicly declared his
interest in hosting an ICHL, if not in 2003, then in 2005.
 
2. Yuri Kleiner, University of St. Petersburg, announced the formation
of the Linguistic Society of St. Petersburg, which will publish a
journal in Russian and English. Information will be forthcoming
(kleiner at yka.usr.pu.ru).
 
3. Wallace Chafe, University of California at Santa Barbara, led an
expression of thanks to Dieter Stein for hosting such a successful
conference.
 
 
Minutes prepared by Dorothy Disterheft, Secretary
Linguistics Program
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
U.S.A.
 
disterh at vm.sc.edu


From ebashir at umich.edu  Sat Oct  4 16:58:05 1997
From: ebashir at umich.edu (E. Bashir)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:58:05 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SAT.4.OCT.1997.125805.EDT.EBASHIR@UMICH.EDU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would be grateful for any references to work on diachronic developments
of agentive/ergative markers/postpositions--either before or after their
aentive/ergative stage.  Thank you.
 
 
E. Bashir
Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
3070 Frieze Bldg.
The University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109
 
Department Office Phone: (313) 764-8286 (messages only)
Personal Office Phone:  (313) 764-0214
Fax: (313) 647-0157
Note:  Area code changes to 734 effective 12/13/97


From DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU  Sat Oct  4 17:04:19 1997
From: DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU (Dorothy Disterheft)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 13:04:19 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <SAT.4.OCT.1997.130419.EDT.DISTERH@UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU>

Date:  Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:02:14 +0100
From:  Javier Martinez Garcia <martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de>
Subject:  6. Int. Conf--Use of Computers in Historical and Comparative
         Linguistics
 
 
            6. International Conference about the Use of Computers
                     in Historical and Comparative Linguistics
                       Frankfurt a.M., 21-24 October 1997
 
 
            Contents:
            I. The preliminary conference programme
            II. A preliminary list of participants
            III. Information materials about Frankfurt
 
 
      The materials as enclosed here can also be found under the
following internet address (URL):
      http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/curric/frankf-97b.html
      We look forward to meet you in Frankfurt!
 
      Preliminary Conference Programme
 
            Di. 21.10
            10:00 Begrung
            10:30 Josef Wallmannsberger -- Corpora travelling on a
            shoestring: The arte povera
            of CD-Romance
            --
            11:30 Cirilo Garcia Roman -- La elaboracion electronica de
            indices y concordancias de
            textos bilingues: soluciones practicas a problemas tecnicos.
 
            12:00 Fco. Javier Martinez Garcia -- ??
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
 
            14:30 Eva Maria Lill -- The future user of a dictionary -
            will he be better informed than
            ever? The use of machine readable full texts and electronic
            facsimiles in the making of
            the 'Deutsches Rechtswrterbuch'
            15:00 Klaus Barger -- Flexionsmorphologie der deutschen
            Verben der
            Gegenwartssprache. Entwicklung einer Datenbank im Rahmen der
            Natrlichkeitstheorie.
            16:00
            16:30
 
 
            Mi. 22.10
            10:00 Daniel Ria1o Rufilanchas -- Analisis y etiquetado
            sintactico del corpus de los
            textos clasicos. Perspectivas y modelos.
            10:30 Jose Antonio Berenguer Sanchez -- Greek Lexicography
            & Indoeuropean
            Lexicography and Internet
            --
            11:30 Arash Zeini -- Ein Digitales Iranisches Wrterbuch
            12:00 Jesus-Luis Cunchillos Ilarri -- El Analizador
            Morfologico Ugartico
 
            -- AUSFLUG --
 
 
            Do. 23.10
            10:00 Istvn. S. Batori -- Das Projekt UEDB
            10:30 Hansje Braam -- CALC Project (Central Asian Languages
            Corpora)
            --
            11:30 Makasa Kasonde -- Computers and Didactics: Preparation
            and Dissemination of
            Teaching Materials: The Case of Comparative Bantu.
            12:00 Harald Vajkonny -- From text to dictionary:
            Computer-aided research on minority
            languages
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
            14:30 Jost Gippert -- Multilingual Text Retrievel:
            Requirements and Solutions.
            15:00-17:30 Workshop: Full text retrieval -- WordCruncher
 
 
            Fr. 24.10
            10:00 Johann Tischler -- Dresdner Aktivitten. Bericht ber
            laufende Projekte.
            10:30 Petr Zemanek -- ??
            --
            11:30 Petr Vavrouek -- Digitalisierung von
            Keilschrifttafeln
            12:00 Svetlana Vyvenko -- Vernetzungsarten in einem
            etymologischen Hypernetz
 
            -- Mittagspause --
 
            14:30-17:30 Workshop: UNICODE
 
 
 
            Bureau/Contacting Address:
                  Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft
                  Georg Voigt Str. 6
                  Postfach 11 19 32
                  D 60054 Frankfurt.
 
                  Tel: +49 69 7982 3139
                  Fax: +49 69 7982 2873
                  email: martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de
                  WWW: http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de
 
-
  Dr. Fco. Javier Martinez Garcia ~ Vergleichende Sprachwissenschaft
  Universitat Frankfurt  ~   Postfach 11 19 32  ~  D-60054 Frankfurt
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From ac6000 at wayne.edu  Fri Oct 10 14:52:24 1997
From: ac6000 at wayne.edu (Martha Ratliff)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:52:24 EDT
Subject: 6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics
Message-ID: <FRI.10.OCT.1997.105224.EDT.AC6000@WAYNE.EDU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
 
The 6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics -- "Prosody and Language
Change" -- will be held in Detroit, Michigan on November 15-16, 1997 under
the sponsorship of the Wayne State University Linguistics Program. The
workshop will be held at the River Place Hotel in Detroit.  Should you wish
to attend and are from out of area, you will need to make a reservation at
the River Place Hotel by Tuesday, October 14th in order to get the reduced
rate of $79/room (regardless of number of guests).  Please call
1-800-890-9505 and say that you are attending the "Wayne State University
linguistics meeting".  Should you have further questions, please contact me
by email.
 
Yours,  Martha Ratliff (martha_ratliff at wayne.edu)
 
****************************************************************************
6th Annual Workshop on Comparative Linguistics
 
"Prosody and Language Change"
 
Sponsored by the Linguistics Program, College of Liberal Arts, and the
Office of Research and Graduate Studies at Wayne State University
 
The River Place Hotel
The Huron Room
November 15-16, 1997
 
Friday, November 14th
from 7 p.m. on . . .    Informal socializing in the Tavern, the River Place
Hotel
 
Saturday, November 15th
8:00-8:35               Registration and Continental Breakfast
 
8:35-8:45               Welcoming Remarks
 
SESSION 1:  METER
8:45-9:30               "Vedic meter and the reflexes of Indo-European
laryngeals"              Gary Holland, University of California, Berkeley
 
9:30-10:15              "A new approach to the Saturnian verse"
                        Jedidiah Parsons, University of California, Berkeley
 
10:15-10:35             Discussion (Brian Joseph, Ohio State University)
 
10:35-10:55             BREAK
 
SESSION 2:  PITCH ACCENT
10:55-11:40             "Relating stress, tone and stod in Scandinavian"
                        Tomas Riad, University of Stockholm
 
11:40-12:00             Discussion (Joe Salmons, University of Wisconsin)
 
12:00-1:30              LUNCH
 
SESSION 3:  REGISTER AND TONE
1:30-2:15               "Registrogenesis as part of a complex of
transphonologization processes"
                        Keith Denning, Eastern Michigan University
 
2:15-3:00               "Genesis and evolution in register and tone
systems: the processes and their reconstruction"
                        Graham Thurgood, California State University, Fresno
 
3:00-3:45               "Segment, tone, and prosody in the history of Chinese"
                        William Baxter, University of Michigan
 
3:45-4:05               Discussion (Martha Ratliff, Wayne State University)
 
4:05-4:25               BREAK
 
SESSION 4:  LENGTH AND REACH
4:25-5:10               "The natural history of geminates"
                        Paul Newman, Indiana University
 
5:10-5:55               "From morphology to phonology, but within the same
prosodic domain: on the differential (in)stability of the factors
conditioning                    German umlaut"
                        Richard Janda, University of Chicago
 
5:55-6:15               Discussion
 
7:30    DINNER at Jacoby's Restaurant, Detroit
Cost:  $18 per person (notify Martha Ratliff by 11/7 of your intention to come)
 
Sunday, November 16th
8:00-8:45               Registration and Continental Breakfast
 
SESSION 5:  PHONETICS OF PROSODY
8:45-9:30               "The place of phonetics in the recovery of stress,
accent, and other prosodic structures"
                        Mary Beckman, Ohio State University
 
9:30-9:50               Discussion (Michael Broe, Northwestern University)
 
SESSION 6:  SYLLABLE AND WORD STRUCTURE
9:50-10:35              "Prosodic units in diachronic templates"
                        Marlys Macken, University of Wisconsin, Madison
 
10:35-10:55             BREAK
 
10:55-11:40             "Syllable reduction in Rejang and Malay"
                        Richard McGinn, Ohio University
 
11:40-12:25     "Stress and the development of disyllabic vocabulary in
Chinese"
                        San Duanmu, University of Michigan
 
12:25-12:45             Discussion (Mary Niepokuj, Purdue University)
 
 
End of Workshop


From manaster at umich.edu  Mon Oct 13 15:00:22 1997
From: manaster at umich.edu (manaster at umich.edu)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 11:00:22 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19971013163342.0d8f734c@bamse.ling.su.se>
Message-ID: <MON.13.OCT.1997.110022.EDT.>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Actually, Swadesh himself did point out that different parts of teh list
change at different rates. I believe Dyen did some later work on this.
In a diffeent way, by producing an ordering acc. to likelihood of
replacement but without giving any paercentages, Dolgopol'skij addressed
essentially the same question in the early 60's.  But, of course, a
number of examples have been cited which show that there is no single
universal rate, even one by Swadesh himself, though I think he simply
argued that suche xamples are very rare--which may be true.
 
Alexis MR
 
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mikael Parkvall wrote:
 
> If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
> himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
> the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
> items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
> than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
> morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
>
>
> Mikael Parkvall
> parkvall at ling.su.se
>
>


From parkvall at ling.su.se  Mon Oct 13 14:32:34 1997
From: parkvall at ling.su.se (Mikael Parkvall)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:32:34 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
Message-ID: <MON.13.OCT.1997.103234.EDT.PARKVALL@LING.SU.SE>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
 
 
Mikael Parkvall
parkvall at ling.su.se


From ml10003 at cus.cam.ac.uk  Tue Oct 14 19:19:39 1997
From: ml10003 at cus.cam.ac.uk (Marisa Lohr)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:19:39 EDT
Subject: Morpheme replacement
In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19971013163342.0d8f734c@bamse.ling.su.se>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.OCT.1997.151939.EDT.ML10003@CUS.CAM.AC.UK>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Mikael Parkvall wrote:
 
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> If I remember correctly, the items on the Swadesh list were said by Swadesh
> himself to be replaced at a rate of about 15 per milennium. Does anybody on
> the list have any idea regarding the differences between various types of
> items; in other words, would lexical morphemes be replaced at a higher rate
> than grammatical ones (not just those on the Swadesh list, but also bound
> morphemes), or vice versa? Or is there no difference at all between them?
>
> Mikael Parkvall
> parkvall at ling.su.se
 
Dyen (1964) demonstrated that different parts of list have different
replacement rates, and found statistically significant correlations
in the ordering of rates for particular parts of the list in a comparison
of Malayo-Polynesian, Indo-European, and, with Kruskal and Black (1973)
Philippine and Cushitic also.  Joos (1964) and Van der Merwe (1966)
suggested dividing the list into subsections with different retention
rates; while Dyen assumed a distinct rate for each word, sought to
calculate this, and put forward a method for combining this information to
give an overall rate (Dyen, James and Cole 1967; Kruskal, Dyen and Black
1973).
 
I have done some work on the retentiveness of basic vocabulary, examining
over 450 words, with a significant overlap with Swadesh's lists.  Although
I did not examine bound morphemes, I did not find a absolute distinction
between "more grammatical" and "more lexical" items in terms of
retentiveness.  For example, the most retentive set of words I found
included the 1sg. pers. pronoun, low numerals excluding "one", the 3sg.
pres. of the verb "to be", the verb "to lick" and the nouns "nail" (on
finger), "wolf" and "name".  However, for the list as a whole, the
proportion of "grammatical" items does grow smaller in comparison with
purely lexical items as the retentiveness of the words decreases.  I
should say that the work was based entirely on Indo-European data;
however, inasmuch as comparison with Kruskal, Dyen and Black's (1973)
figures for Philippine was possible, the ordering of replacement rates for
different sets of words showed a very strong correlation for the two
language families.
 
Refs.
 
Dyen, Isidore (1964) 'On the Validity of Comparative Lexicostatistics' in
"Proceedings of the Ninth International Congress of Linguists" ed. Horace
G Lunt (Mouton, The Hague), 238-52
 
Dyen, Isidore, Alan James, JWL Cole (1967) 'Language Divergence and
Estimated Word Retention Rate'
 
Kruskal, Joseph B, Isidore Dyen, Paul Black (1973) 'Some Results from the
Vocabulary Method of Reconstructing Language Trees' in "Lexicostatistics
in Genetic Linguistics.  Proceedings of the Yale Conference" ed. Dyen
(Mouton, The Hague), 30-55
 
Joos, Martin (1964) 'Glottochronology with Retention-Rate Inhomogeneity'
(abstract) in "Proceedings of the Ninth International Congress of
Linguists" ed. Lunt, 237
 
Van der Merwe (1966) 'New Mathematics for Glottochronology': Current
Anthropology 7, 485-500
 
 
Marisa Lohr


From msharpe at metz.une.edu.au  Thu Oct 16 15:58:57 1997
From: msharpe at metz.une.edu.au (Margaret Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:58:57 EDT
Subject: for Histling list
Message-ID: <THU.16.OCT.1997.115857.EDT.MSHARPE@METZ.UNE.EDU.AU>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In response to Marisa Lohr, a useful additional article is one by Barry
Alpher 1990 'Some Proto-Pama-Nyungan paradigms: a verb in the hand is worth
two in the phylum', in G.N. O'Grady and D.T. Tryon (eds) Studies in
Comparative Pama-Nyungan, Pacifi Linguistics C-111: 155-171.  Alpher
compares full verb forms, not just stems and affixes, in various
Pama-Nyungan languages, and comes up with some differing reconstructions to
what another writer has suggested.


From martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de  Fri Oct 17 14:38:15 1997
From: martinez at em.uni-frankfurt.de (Javier Martinez)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:38:15 EDT
Subject: Armenisch / Armenio/ Armenian
Message-ID: <FRI.17.OCT.1997.103815.EDT.MARTINEZ@EM.UNIFRANKFURT.DE>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Einladung zu einem Blockseminar
      von Jos Weitenberg,
      Universitdt Leiden,
 
      Einf|hrung ins Armenische
      14.-18. September 1998
      10.00 bis 17.00 Uhr tdglich
 
      Anmeldung und Information:
      Prof. Dr. M. Meier-Br|gger,
      Seminar f|r Vergleichende und Indogermanische Sprachwissenschaft
      Fabeckstra_e 7
      D-14195 Berlin
 
      Tel.: +49- 30- 838 5028
      Fax: +49- 30- 838 4207
      email: drmeier at zedat.fu-berlin.de
_____________
TITUS: http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/neu.htm


From DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU  Fri Oct 17 22:38:14 1997
From: DISTERH at UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU (Dorothy Disterheft)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:38:14 EDT
Subject: Minutes, XIII. ICHL
Message-ID: <FRI.17.OCT.1997.183814.EDT.DISTERH@UNIVSCVM.SC.EDU>

Note: The following report has been sent both to HISTLING and to
current members of the International Society of Historical Linguistics.
Apologies to those who receive both mailings.
 
                 Minutes of the Business Meeting,
              XIII. ICHL, Duesseldorf August 15, 1997
 
I. REPORTS OF OFFICERS
 
1. President's report
 
Dieter Stein thanked his staff for their help in
organizing the conference; he also acknowledged funding from the
Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft and Heinrich Heine University,
Duesseldorf.
 
The deadline for submitting papers for inclusion in the proceedings is
September 15. Contributors should submit three hard copies which should
be no more than 20 double-spaced pages with generous margins (Times 12
font); no diskettes are to be sent until  papers have been accepted for
inclusion. The volume will be refereed and carry the title Historical
Linguistics 1997.
 
2. Past President's report, John Charles Smith on behalf of Nigel
Vincent
 
Following the extremely large number of high-quality papers
submitted for publication (of the 120 or so papers presented, 62 were
submitted, and, after anonymous external refereeing, 43 of these were
accepted), there will be two volumes deriving from the general sessions
of the Twelfth ICHL (Manchester 1995), which will appear under the title
Historical Linguistics 1995.  Volume 1, edited by John Charles Smith and
Delia Bentley, will deal with general issues and non-Germanic languages;
volume 2, edited by Richard Hogg and Linda van Bergen, will be devoted
to Germanic languages. Both volumes will be published by John Benjamins,
of Amsterdam and Philadelphia, and will appear early in 1998.
 
Nigel Vincent is editing a volume containing most of the plenary talks and
the papers given at the workshop on syntactic change. Arrangements for
publication of the papers presented at the other two workshops are being
handled by the respective organizers.
 
3. Future Conference Organizer's report
 
Laurel Brinton announced that XIV. ICHL  will be held in
Vancouver, August 9-13, 1999. The e-mail address for the conference is
ichlxiv at interchange.ubc.ca. Abstracts will be due by October 15, 1998.
Workshop proposals should be submitted by June 1998.
 
II. SECRETARY'S ANNOUNCEMENTS, DOROTHY DISTERHEFT
 
1. HISTLING, the electronic discussion list dedicated to historical
linguistics, is flourishing with over 480 subscribers. While it is the
official e-mail list of ISHL, nonmembers are also welcome to join. Those
who would like to be added to the list should contact Dorothy
Disterheft.
 
2. The viability of ISHL depends upon the willingness of its members to
host conferences. To be truly international, the Society encourages
conferences to be held in as many areas of the world as possible. After
this conference, ICHL will leave Europe to be held in North America and
then in Australia (if the current nomination is approved by members).
After that, it will be time for ICHL to return to Europe, but as of now,
no expressions of interest have come from Europe, while two universities
in North America have indicated their interest for 2003. The secretary
encouraged nominations from Europe in order to continue the rotation;
all inquiries should be directed to Marianne Mithun
(mithun at humanitas.ucsb.edu), who will chair the Nominating Committee.
 
3. The deaths of two ISHL members, Andrzej Danchev and Otmar Werner,
were announced.
 
4. Dorothy Disterheft will soon set up a permanent web page for ISHL; it
will contain information on past conferences and conference proceedings,
along with links to the current conference.
 
5. The following slate from the Nominating Committee was moved by the
secretary:
 
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
President                   Laurel Brinton, Vancouver, BC
Future Conference Director  Barry Blake, Melbourne, Australia
Secretary                   Dorothy Disterheft, Columbia, SC
Former President            Dieter Stein, Duesseldorf, Germany
Member (till 2003)          Kate Burridge, Melbourne, Australia
 
NOMINATING COMMITTEE
Member (till 2005)          Martin Maiden, Oxford, England
 
 
The nominees were elected unanimously.
 
This results in the following membership of the two standing committees:
 
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
President                  Laurel Brinton, Vancouver, British Columbia
Future Conference Director Barry Blake, Melbourne, Australia
Former President           Dieter Stein, Dsseldorf, Germany
Secretary                  Dorothy Disterheft, Columbia, South Carolina
Member (1999)              Sheila Embleton, York, Ontario
Member (2001)              Alice Harris, Nashville, Tennessee
Member (2003)              Kate Burridge, Melbourne, Australia
 
NOMINATING COMMITTEE
Chair (1999)               Marianne Mithun, Santa Barbara, California
Member (2001)              Roger Wright, Liverpool, England
Member (2003)              Bernd Heine, Cologne, Germany
Member (2005)              Martin Maiden, Oxford, England
 
 
III. NEWLY ELECTED FUTURE CONFERENCE ORGANIZER'S REPORT, BARRY BLAKE
 
XV. ICHL will be held in August 2001 in downtown Melbourne, after the
Pacific Rim Conference in Santa Barbara.
 
IV. ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR:
 
1. Denis Dumas, University of Quebec at Montreal, publicly declared his
interest in hosting an ICHL, if not in 2003, then in 2005.
 
2. Yuri Kleiner, University of St. Petersburg, announced the formation
of the Linguistic Society of St. Petersburg, which will publish a
journal in Russian and English. Information will be forthcoming
(kleiner at yka.usr.pu.ru).
 
3. Wallace Chafe, University of California at Santa Barbara, led an
expression of thanks to Dieter Stein for hosting such a successful
conference.
 
 
Minutes prepared by Dorothy Disterheft, Secretary
Linguistics Program
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
U.S.A.
 
disterh at vm.sc.edu