From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  3 17:26:24 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:26:24 -0700
Subject: Update: iTunes Store offers Cherokee language revitalization
 application (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.3.SEP.2009.102624.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thurs, Sept 03, 2009

Update: iTunes Store offers Cherokee language revitalization application

By Jami Custer
Staff Writer

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. –Thornton Media Inc. has developed an iTunes application that
allows the Cherokee language and other indigenous languages to be downloaded
onto handheld game consoles, MP3 players and cell phones.

Company officials – who also created RezWorld, a video game designed to
revitalize Native languages – said the language software is called Language Pal
and can program audio recordings of indigenous languages in multiple dialects.
It also allows the programming of electronic flashcards, archived recordings,
multiple choice games and thousands of audio files with searchable databases on
the Nintendo DSi, a portable game system.

“We wanted to create software that allows any tribe to program their own
language onto a quality handheld device. The Nintendo DSi is an obvious choice
because the DS series is the best-selling handheld in history,” Thornton Media
CEO Don Thornton said.

Access full article below:
http://www.cherokeephoenix.org/4010/Article.aspx


From lamanyana at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  4 16:57:26 2009
From: lamanyana at GMAIL.COM (Michael Braun Hamilton)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:57:26 -0700
Subject: Help for Mayan speaker
In-Reply-To: <5ba2490d0907261147v207e6de3kb55cfa8fa1a4b458@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.SEP.2009.095726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Another person to try is John Haviland at UCSD -
http://www.anthro.ucsd.edu/~jhaviland/

-Michael

2009/7/26 Slavomír Čéplö <bulbulthegreat at gmail.com>:
> Dear Don,
>
> David Kaufman (of http://anthro-ling.blogspot.com/) does a lot of work
> on Mayan and could probably at least point you in the right direction.
>
> b.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Don Osborn<dzo at bisharat.net> wrote:
>> I've received a request for help for an 18 year old Mayan speaker in Florida
>> who has little Spanish or English. Is anyone aware of resources - human,
>> material, or online - for speakers of Mayan languages in the US?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any leads.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>


From k.arnette at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  4 17:53:32 2009
From: k.arnette at GMAIL.COM (K Arnette)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:53:32 -0500
Subject: Help for Mayan speaker
In-Reply-To: <010201ca0c5c$68f59550$3ae0bff0$@net>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.SEP.2009.125332.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Don,

On the outside chance that you are still searching for assistance, I
forwarded your message to a local individual who may be able to provide help
or point you in the right direction. Here is what he said:

"If the person is a speaker of Yucatec Maya I may be able to help.  If not I
might be able to orient them as to who to contact concerning the other Maya
languages. You can pass along my contact information to the person if that
would help."

All the best wishes,



John F. Chuchiak IV, Ph.D.

Associate Professor of Colonial Latin American History

Young Honors College Professor

Director, Latin American, Caribbean and Hispanic Studies Program

Chair, Provost's Committee on International Area Studies

 441 Strong Hall

Department of History

Missouri State University

Springfield, Missouri  65897

(417) 836-5425

(417) 836-5523 (FAX)

(417) 773-4276  (CELL)

JohnChuchiak at missouristate.edu

www.missouristate.edu/history/chuchiak/template



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Don Osborn <dzo at bisharat.net> wrote:

>  I've received a request for help for an 18 year old Mayan speaker in
> Florida who has little Spanish or English. Is anyone aware of resources -
> human, material, or online - for speakers of Mayan languages in the US?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any leads.
>
>
>
> Don
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:14:56 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:14:56 -0700
Subject: Dying Shina language finds a saviour, after all (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.121456.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dying Shina language finds a saviour, after all

A Gilgit university steps in to help preserve the widely spoken language

Shabbir Mir
India

Gilgit, Sep 06: The Karakorum International University (KIU) has stepped in to
rescue Gilgit-Baltistan’s major dialect - Shina - from extinction.

Shina, the dominant language being spoken by approximately 60 percent people of
this region, and also spoken in parts of Indian Kashmir, is facing danger of
extinction because of lack of patronage by the government and the civil
society’s insufficient contribution in the erstwhile Northern Areas, where a
package of political reforms unveiled recently by the Prime Minister upgraded
its status and made it equivalent to that of a province.

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http://www.risingkashmir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16548&Itemid=1


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:17:09 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:17:09 -0700
Subject: Promoting indigenous languages on film (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.121709.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Promoting indigenous languages on film

By Akintayo Abodunrin
September 4, 2009 06:09PMT
Africa

The relevance of indigenous languages, an issue that has generated lively
debates among scholars, came to fore again at the third edition of ‘Behind the
Screen', a festival of indigenous African films, held from August 23 to 28,
2009, in Akure, Ondo State.

With ‘The Impact and Survival of Indigenous Languages in Films' as its theme,
the weeklong festival organised by Remdel Optimum Communications, a movie
production and distribution company, provided a forum to examine how making
films in native languages, like writing in local languages, could aid the
propagation and preservation of African culture.

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http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/ArtsandCulture/Film/5446984-147/story.csp


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:23:18 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:23:18 -0700
Subject: Language a cultural priority (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.122318.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2009

Language a cultural priority

Posted By JENNIFER HAMILTON-MCCHARLES, THE NUGGET
Canada

Tasheena Sarazin lost her native language at the age of 10.

But she's determined not to let the same thing happen to her two boys.

I know some words, but my partner knows Cree and I get him to speak it around
our children as much as he can," she said Sunday at the Nipissing First Nation
Traditional Powwow on Jocko Point.

I may not be able to understand what he's saying, but I really want them to
learn it."

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http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1732254


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:25:08 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:25:08 -0700
Subject: Young families breathe new life into American Indian languages
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.122508.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Young families breathe new life into American Indian languages

By Stephen Magagnini
smagagnini at sacbee.com

Published: Sunday, Sep. 6, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 1B
USA

Long-dormant California Indian languages and cultures are enjoying a renaissance
among American Indians, and no one embodies that more than the Ramirez family.

"Our daughter's first words were 'Utha, Utha,' which means mom in Miwok," said
her father, Petee Ramirez, as he cradled his 4-month old son, Ahumate – bear in
Miwok.

Ramirez and his wife, Jennifer – whose bloodline comes from several California
Indian nations – joined more than 200 other native people and linguists this
weekend at the Language Is Life Conference 2009 at the University of
California, Davis. The gathering showcased indigenous languages, which are
fading as elders pass on.

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http://www.sacbee.com/education/story/2163402.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:30:33 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:30:33 -0700
Subject: School stimulus plan fails test for neediest (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.123033.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

School stimulus plan fails test for neediest

Justine Ferrari, Education reporter | September 02, 2009
Article from:  The Australian

THE neediest high schools in Australia have been denied funding to build science
labs and language centres after the federal government ignored its own
guidelines and redirected $200 million to help pay for a blowout in its primary
school building program.

The Australian understands 140 of the nation's most disadvantaged and
under-resourced high schools have missed out on the new facilities after the
government last week cancelled a planned second round of the $1billion program.

The three schools judged by an independent panel to be most in need of the
science labs and language centres are in remote areas and have a high
proportion of indigenous students. They had applied for projects with a
combined value of $3 million but have received not one cent between them.

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26015467-5013871,00.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep  8 16:51:09 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:51:09 -0700
Subject: Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.8.SEP.2009.095109.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

POSTED ON Monday, September 07, 2009 AT 11:07PM

Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree

BY PHIL FEROLITO
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
USA

When Virginia Beavert was just a teenager, she was appointed by the Yakama
Tribal Council to work with an anthropologist studying the tribe's culture on
the reservation.

Beavert was the only tribal member then who could speak English and several
dialects of the 14 different tribes that make up the Yakama Nation.

"I had to talk to the people in their own dialect," 87-year-old Beavert
recalled.

She had no idea that her translating skills would eventually lead her to helping
the tribe preserve its language.

Now, after playing a key role in developing a 576-page dictionary of her native
language, she has been awarded an honorary doctorate degree from the University
of Washington.

Access full article below:
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2009/09/07/keeper-of-yakama-language-awarded-honorary-degree


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep  8 19:56:09 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:56:09 -0400
Subject: Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <20090908095109.oww9gc08gwc80w8w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.8.SEP.2009.155609.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is SO well deserved!  Go Virginia!
She is an inspiration to all of us who have had the gift of knowing her!

Susan

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM, phil cash cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> POSTED ON Monday, September 07, 2009 AT 11:07PM
>
> Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree
>
> BY PHIL FEROLITO
> YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
> USA
>
> When Virginia Beavert was just a teenager, she was appointed by the Yakama
> Tribal Council to work with an anthropologist studying the tribe's culture
> on
> the reservation.
>
> Beavert was the only tribal member then who could speak English and several
> dialects of the 14 different tribes that make up the Yakama Nation.
>
> "I had to talk to the people in their own dialect," 87-year-old Beavert
> recalled.
>
> She had no idea that her translating skills would eventually lead her to
> helping
> the tribe preserve its language.
>
> Now, after playing a key role in developing a 576-page dictionary of her
> native
> language, she has been awarded an honorary doctorate degree from the
> University
> of Washington.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2009/09/07/keeper-of-yakama-language-awarded-honorary-degree
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
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From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Tue Sep  8 21:37:41 2009
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:37:41 -1000
Subject: FINAL REMINDER: LLCMC Conference preregistration deadline
 September 15
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The LLCMC Conference will explore the use of computers as a medium of
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Highlights will include a plenary talk by Dr. Gilberte Furstenberg
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From martin at KAMUSI.ORG  Wed Sep  9 06:50:02 2009
From: martin at KAMUSI.ORG (Martin Benjamin)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:50:02 +0200
Subject: African Locales: for completion THIS MONTH
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.085002.0200.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The African Network for Localization (ANLoc) is seeking immediate help
to create Locales for 100 African languages. You can view a
description of the project at http://www.it46.se/afrigen

You can help in one of three ways:
-> volunteer to work on a locale yourself (the project will help you
every step of the way!)
-> play matchmaker - introduce someone who can volunteer for their language
-> spread the word - pass along this message to your networks, so that
we increase the chances of finding volunteers for many different
languages

THIS YEAR'S DEADLINE to get new languages into the CLDR (Common
Locales Data Repository), the international system used to produce all
major software on the planet, is OCTOBER 1. So, we need to connect
with people who speak languages from all over Africa.  And, we need to
complete each locale THIS MONTH.

The full list of languages currently in the project is at
http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php . If your favorite language
shows any red in any of the bars next to it, please volunteer to help
complete the locale!

It's easy to volunteer - just send an email to
locales at africanlocalization.net

The interface to build a locale in your favorite African language is
available in English, French, and Swahili. Building a locale only
takes a couple of hours. Please tell your friends, tell your
colleagues, tell your networks!

A quick, true story - one Friday last month, someone in Nairobi took a
couple of minutes to provide an introduction between the Locales
project and a colleague of theirs working on the Kreole Morisyen
language of Mauritius.  A few emails were exchanged, and by Monday the
Morisyen locale was 90% finished.  By the end of that week, the locale
was complete.  On October 1, this locale will be submitted to CLDR.
By early next year, Morisyen will be forevermore part of the universe
of languages available for information technology development.

It just takes one person and a couple of hours to finish a locale for
a language, but it takes a lot of villagers on the web to find that
one person.  Thanks in advance for volunteering, for introducing
contacts, and/or for passing along this message!


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:07:41 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:07:41 -0700
Subject: Yukon elder honoured for Tlingit language work (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.090741.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Yukon elder honoured for Tlingit language work

Last Updated: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 | 7:34 PM CT
CBC News
Canada

A Yukon elder received a national literacy award Tuesday for her work in keeping
the Tlingit aboriginal language alive in the territory.

In a ceremony Tuesday morning in Whitehorse, Emma Sam received a Council of the
Federation Literacy Award from Yukon Education Minister Patrick Rouble, on
behalf of Premier Dennis Fentie.

"I feel really good to be able to speak my language, and I wanted to make sure
that it did not fade away," Sam told CBC News before Tuesday's ceremony.

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2009/09/08/tlingit-award.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:19:57 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:19:57 -0700
Subject: Maliseet language teachers are the students in this class (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.091957.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Maliseet language teachers are the students in this class

Published Wednesday September 9th, 2009
By Robert LaFrance

With the 2009-2010 school year now underway, the teachers of the Maliseet
language - both in Mah-Sos school in its temporary location and at SVHS - spent
a week in August brushing up on their own teaching skills and learning others
from a veteran in the field. Dorothy Lazore (Karchwénhawe in Mohawk), a
resident of Quebec province who teaches the Mohawk language in a nearby Ontario
high school, was standing at the head of her class of six last week for an
intensive course in the teaching of Indian language.

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http://victoriastar.canadaeast.com/county/article/785551


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:24:40 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:24:40 -0700
Subject: NSU to offer Cherokee cultural bachelor=?utf-8?Q?=C2=92sdegree_?=
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.092440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

NSU to offer Cherokee cultural bachelor’s degree

By The Associated Press
USA

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) – State higher education regents on Sept. 3 approved a
proposal by Northeastern State University to offer a Bachelor of Arts degree
program in Cherokee cultural studies.

NSU is located in Tahlequah, which is home to the Cherokee Nation, one of the
largest American Indian tribes in the United States. The degree program will be
the second at NSU focused on Cherokee studies. The university already offers a
bachelor’s degree in Cherokee education.

Debbie Blanke, the regents’ associate vice chancellor for academic affairs, said
other Oklahoma colleges offer courses, certificates or degrees in American
Indian studies but NSU is the only one to offer a bachelor’s degree in studies
concerning a specific tribe.

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http://www.cherokeephoenix.org/4021/Article.aspx


From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Wed Sep  9 18:10:45 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:10:45 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 14 18:00:07 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:00:07 -0700
Subject: Bilingual debate rages in NT (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.14.SEP.2009.110007.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Bilingual debate rages in NT

Posted Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:00pm AEST
Australia

Jerry Patrick Jangala was a young man in the late 1940s when he saw white men
for the first time.

They put him in a truck and took him from the Tanami Desert to what is now
called Lajamanu, a remote Aboriginal community about 900 kilometres south of
Darwin.

Mr Jangala is one of Lajamanu's last traditional elders, and his language,
Warlpiri, is one of only about 20 Aboriginal languages still spoken by
Indigenous children.

But that number could soon shrink even further.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/14/2685205.htm?section=justin


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:14:02 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:14:02 -0700
Subject: Sharing legendary lessons (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.101402.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sharing legendary lessons
Elisha Kilabuk strengthens Inuit oral tradition with stories and songs

Daron Letts
Northern News Services
Published Monday, Sept. 14, 2009

SOMBA K'E/YELLOWKNIFE - Taikkuaguuq is an Inuktitut word used to begin a
traditional Inuit legend.

"It means 'once there were'," explained Elisha Kilabuk. "It's like 'once upon a
time'. Most legends start like that."

The Iqaluit-born storyteller often uses the word to draw listeners into the
Inuit legends he presents at events organized through elementary schools, Inuit
organizations, the territorial government and the Nunavut teaching education
program at Nunavut Arctic College.

"For me, these stories are very important because most of them are not written,"
Kilabuk said. "Because these stories were passed down orally from generation to
generation I think it's important for us to learn them and know them. We're
losing our language. It's important to keep the Inuit legends in order to keep
the language preserved.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:20:03 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:20:03 -0700
Subject: Native languages find a pal in software (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.102003.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native languages find a pal in software

[audio podcast]

10:00 PM PDT on Monday, September 14, 2009
By LAUREN McSHERRY
Special to The Press-Enterprise
USA

For years, Ernest Siva, a Morongo tribal member who runs a Southern California
Native American educational and cultural center with his wife in Banning, has
been working to preserve the Serrano language.

Siva and his sister, Arlene Craft, are the only fluent Serrano speakers left in
the area.

Now, Siva has one more tool to help him do so.

On a recent day at the Dorothy Ramon Learning Center, Siva was introduced to a
new software program called Language Pal that is used to digitally record words
and phrases in Serrano.

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http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_iphone15.2940bb6.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:34:40 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:34:40 -0700
Subject: With only 50 speakers left,
 tribe's language to be preserved by team of IU anthropologists
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.103440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

With only 50 speakers left, tribe's language to be preserved by team of IU
anthropologists

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Sept. 15, 2009
USA

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- The National Endowment for the Humanities' "We the People"
project has awarded a group of Indiana University anthropologists $250,000 to
transcribe, translate and publish the oral literature of the Assiniboine, a
northern Plains Indian tribe with only about 50 living members still fluent in
the tribal language of Nakota.

Raymond DeMallie and Douglas Parks, anthropology professors in the IU College of
Arts and Sciences and co-directors of the American Indian Studies Research
Institute (AISRI), along with former IU anthropology doctoral student and AISRI
research associate Linda Cumberland, will publish two volumes of oral histories
collected from Assiniboine tribal members, some of which DeMallie recorded
during interviews conducted nearly 25 years ago. Also assisting will be native
Assiniboine scholar Tom Shawl of Fort Belknap Reservation in Montana. The team
also will publish a dictionary of the language.

Access full article below:
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/11854.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 17 19:28:06 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:28:06 -0700
Subject: Rupert schools consider teaching Haida,
 Nisga=?utf-8?Q?=C2=92alanguages_?= (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.17.SEP.2009.122806.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Rupert schools consider teaching Haida, Nisga’a languages

Written by George T. Baker
Prince Rupert Daily News
Tuesday, 15 September 2009
Canada

The Prince Rupert school board has been asked to begin teaching Haida in local
schools.

The request came before the summer hit and trustees broke off for vacation.
School District 52 answered it by having the district’s consultant, Dave
Stigant, work on a response plan to investigate the costs and benefits to
implementing a second aboriginal language-teaching program in Prince Rupert.

However, the challenge is how to accommodate such lessons without offending
another First Nation community that would like the school district to teach
their own language.

“I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that the Nisga’a [in Prince Rupert] have
already asked for many years without getting this kind of response,” said
trustee Russell Wiens.

Access full article below:
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20090915213364/local/news/rupert-schools-consider-teaching-haida-nisga-146a-languages.html


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 16:39:23 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:39:23 -0700
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <1499502798.844151.1252519846009.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.093923.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Weytk Tammy,

This sounds very intersesting.  If you couldmail me the publisher file at

745 Ska-Hiish Dr
Chase, BC
V0E 1M3

That would be great thanks.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>
> I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something to
> this list.
>
> Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for children
> about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
> prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah language
> version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>
> This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all of
> our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that you
> leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders, our
> artist and our program would still be shown.
>
> If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> ready, please contact me.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 16:51:54 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:51:54 -0700
Subject: African Locales: for completion THIS MONTH
In-Reply-To: <34a796d00909082350n498123fane971d945b7505d85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.095154.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow that seem like a big undertaking.  I would love to help, but I
can't speak any African languages, although my brother hase a name
from Tanzania.  If there is any way a non-native speaker can help then
I'd be glad to.

Since these are XML files are these what are used to Localise
OpenOffice.org?  I have a local in OO.o and even have a project starte
(http://shs.openoffice.org), but that's as much of the work I've got
done.  I am working on finishing the spellchecking dictionary for
OpenOffice.org.

I would like to know if I could make use of the code that produces the
following pages.  I could use this when the time comes for North
American Indigenous Languages.

http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php
http://www.it46.se/afrigen/view.php



On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Martin Benjamin <martin at kamusi.org> wrote:
> The African Network for Localization (ANLoc) is seeking immediate help
> to create Locales for 100 African languages. You can view a
> description of the project at http://www.it46.se/afrigen
>
> You can help in one of three ways:
> -> volunteer to work on a locale yourself (the project will help you
> every step of the way!)
> -> play matchmaker - introduce someone who can volunteer for their language
> -> spread the word - pass along this message to your networks, so that
> we increase the chances of finding volunteers for many different
> languages
>
> THIS YEAR'S DEADLINE to get new languages into the CLDR (Common
> Locales Data Repository), the international system used to produce all
> major software on the planet, is OCTOBER 1. So, we need to connect
> with people who speak languages from all over Africa.  And, we need to
> complete each locale THIS MONTH.
>
> The full list of languages currently in the project is at
> http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php . If your favorite language
> shows any red in any of the bars next to it, please volunteer to help
> complete the locale!
>
> It's easy to volunteer - just send an email to
> locales at africanlocalization.net
>
> The interface to build a locale in your favorite African language is
> available in English, French, and Swahili. Building a locale only
> takes a couple of hours. Please tell your friends, tell your
> colleagues, tell your networks!
>
> A quick, true story - one Friday last month, someone in Nairobi took a
> couple of minutes to provide an introduction between the Locales
> project and a colleague of theirs working on the Kreole Morisyen
> language of Mauritius.  A few emails were exchanged, and by Monday the
> Morisyen locale was 90% finished.  By the end of that week, the locale
> was complete.  On October 1, this locale will be submitted to CLDR.
> By early next year, Morisyen will be forevermore part of the universe
> of languages available for information technology development.
>
> It just takes one person and a couple of hours to finish a locale for
> a language, but it takes a lot of villagers on the web to find that
> one person.  Thanks in advance for volunteering, for introducing
> contacts, and/or for passing along this message!
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 17:08:01 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:08:01 -0700
Subject: Dying languages archived for future generations (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <1c1f75a20908241244y17524df8l5bdf0bf7b5459302@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.100801.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow that's an interesting project.  Have you developed a spellcecking
dictionary for FireFox or OpenOffice.org.  It is quite trivial once
you have a wordlist.  I sent a link out earlier on the list, so you
odn't have to go searching it is right here

http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/spellcheckers
http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/firefox

Cheers.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Over the summer a student and I, both with no webpage design/creation
> background, created a "naive archive". The goal was to see what two
> motivated people could do without any prior web experience in terms of
> creating an archive from scratch and from legacy materials (dictionaries,
> stem lists, grammars, unpublished manuscripts). We used open source material
> (e.g. ubuntu and gimp) and proprietary software (e.g. windows and dream
> weaver)...we found we could do everything with the open source software with
> no trouble. We used the free online w3schools.com tutorials for everything
> we created. We spent six weeks and used HTML and Java script for almost
> everything. The most difficult part was creating a search mechanism for the
> dictionary, stem list, and affix list...this required knowledge of PHP which
> we learned at the w3schools.com site as well. The PHP was not necessary
> however because the web browser's own search mechanism seemed to worked.
>
> We ended up creating a searchable root dictionary from a microsoft word
> version of an original print dictionary, a searchable stem list from a 1938
> publication, and a searchable affix list from a 1939 grammar. The grammar
> was already archived by the Internet Archive so we linked each entry to the
> original source page online. We also included over 1,200 pages of
> unpublished manuscripts, a grammatical sketch, some information about
> various orthographies and some other things.
>
> In short, we managed to do a good deal in a short time. The only caveat is
> that we both had prior experience with programing languages so had a certain
> comfort with computers and confidence in our abilities...something that can
> make a big difference. You can view the site at
> http://academic.uprm.edu/~sbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html.
>
> We hope it might serve as an example of what can be done...without
> funding...though if any wants to give us some money to do more we'd be happy
> to take it.
>
> Shannon
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, phil cash cash<cashcash at email.arizona.edu>
> wrote:
>> Dying languages archived for future generations
>>
>> A Cambridge University project to safeguard the world's 6,000 spoken
>> languages
>> has been launched after it emerged half could die out within a generation.
>>
>> Published: 3:54PM BST 24 Aug 2009
>> UK
>>
>> The World Oral Literature Project aims to help cultures under threat from
>> globalisation create lasting records of their native languages.
>>
>> Still in its inaugural year, the project led by Cambridge University's
>> Museum of
>> Archaeology and Anthropology, has already handed out around 10 grants to
>> tribes
>> from Mongolia to Nigeria - and the researchers admitted traditional
>> British
>> languages such as Cornish and Gaelic are also at risk.
>>
>> Experts are encouraging native people and anthropologists to capture
>> myths, folk
>> songs chants and poems in their dying languages through multi-media tools.
>>
>> Access full article below:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6081874/Dying-languages-archived-for-future-generations.html
>>
>
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 18 17:20:23 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:20:23 -0700
Subject: Yakutia Hosts High-Profile Conference on Native Languages of the
 Indigenous Minorities (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.102023.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Yakutia Hosts High-Profile Conference on Native Languages of the Indigenous
Minorities

12:31, 18.09.2009 |
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&#1082;&#1088;&#1072;&#1081;

The reports of the Sakhalin delegation aroused much interest among participants
of the All-Russian Research and Practice Conference

YUZHNO-SAKHALINSK. September 18. VOSTOK-MEDIA – The Republic of Sakha, Yakutia,
hosted the All-Russian Research and Practice Conference “Native Languages of
the Indigenous Peoples of the Russian Federation within the Russian Educational
System”. The Sakhalin delegation took part in the conference.

According to the press-service office of the regional Administration, the
conference was attended by state officials from five foreign countries,
representatives of 15 regions of the Russian Federation, members of the UN
Department of Economic and Social Affairs as well as members of Assembly of the
First Nations, Regional Office North West Territories, The Council of the
Federation Committee on Northern Territories and Indigenous Minorities Issues,
Russian Association of Indigenous Peoples of the North, Siberia and Far East
(RAIPON) and many other organizations.

The participants in the high-profile forum discussed challenging issued relating
to the native languages of the indigenous minorities relying on the
international and domestic experience of preserving endangered ethnic cultures.

Access full article below:
http://vostokmedia.com/n55485.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 18 17:50:52 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:50:52 -0700
Subject: Guidelines For Teaching And Learning Samoan (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.105052.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Guidelines For Teaching And Learning Samoan

Friday, 18 September, 2009 - 21:05

Guidelines and a new multi-media resource for the teaching and learning of
Samoan were launched by the Minister of Pacific Island Affairs Georgina te
Heuheu in Auckland today.

Ta'iala mo le Gagana S&#257;moa: The Gagana S&#257;moa Guidelines provide a
framework for an additional language in early childhood services, primary and
secondary schools.

Mua &#332;! An Introduction to Gagana S&#257;moa is aimed at students in years
7-10 and it provides a range of entry-level resources for teachers and students
new to languages.

Access full article below:
http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/guidelines-teaching-and-learning-samoan/5/24605


From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 18:17:26 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:17:26 -0400
Subject: Dying languages archived for future generations (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <6838a1930909181008v28c8e130n8ae59683c86e932c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.141726.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Neskie,

We're learning as we go...a spell checker would be great...I still need to
post the keyboard...it is all about time! I'm going to forward the info
about the spell checker to the tribe and see they have someone with the
time...meanwhile you've given me a new project...I'm thinking to include the
ACORN software in the site so folks can make lessons...any ideas and
suggestions always welcome!

cheers,
shannon

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Neskie Manuel <neskiem at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow that's an interesting project.  Have you developed a spellcecking
> dictionary for FireFox or OpenOffice.org.  It is quite trivial once
> you have a wordlist.  I sent a link out earlier on the list, so you
> odn't have to go searching it is right here
>
> http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/spellcheckers
> http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/firefox
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Over the summer a student and I, both with no webpage design/creation
> > background, created a "naive archive". The goal was to see what two
> > motivated people could do without any prior web experience in terms of
> > creating an archive from scratch and from legacy materials (dictionaries,
> > stem lists, grammars, unpublished manuscripts). We used open source
> material
> > (e.g. ubuntu and gimp) and proprietary software (e.g. windows and dream
> > weaver)...we found we could do everything with the open source software
> with
> > no trouble. We used the free online w3schools.com tutorials for
> everything
> > we created. We spent six weeks and used HTML and Java script for almost
> > everything. The most difficult part was creating a search mechanism for
> the
> > dictionary, stem list, and affix list...this required knowledge of PHP
> which
> > we learned at the w3schools.com site as well. The PHP was not necessary
> > however because the web browser's own search mechanism seemed to worked.
> >
> > We ended up creating a searchable root dictionary from a microsoft word
> > version of an original print dictionary, a searchable stem list from a
> 1938
> > publication, and a searchable affix list from a 1939 grammar. The grammar
> > was already archived by the Internet Archive so we linked each entry to
> the
> > original source page online. We also included over 1,200 pages of
> > unpublished manuscripts, a grammatical sketch, some information about
> > various orthographies and some other things.
> >
> > In short, we managed to do a good deal in a short time. The only caveat
> is
> > that we both had prior experience with programing languages so had a
> certain
> > comfort with computers and confidence in our abilities...something that
> can
> > make a big difference. You can view the site at
> > http://academic.uprm.edu/~sbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html<http://academic.uprm.edu/%7Esbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html>
> .
> >
> > We hope it might serve as an example of what can be done...without
> > funding...though if any wants to give us some money to do more we'd be
> happy
> > to take it.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, phil cash cash<
> cashcash at email.arizona.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> Dying languages archived for future generations
> >>
> >> A Cambridge University project to safeguard the world's 6,000 spoken
> >> languages
> >> has been launched after it emerged half could die out within a
> generation.
> >>
> >> Published: 3:54PM BST 24 Aug 2009
> >> UK
> >>
> >> The World Oral Literature Project aims to help cultures under threat
> from
> >> globalisation create lasting records of their native languages.
> >>
> >> Still in its inaugural year, the project led by Cambridge University's
> >> Museum of
> >> Archaeology and Anthropology, has already handed out around 10 grants to
> >> tribes
> >> from Mongolia to Nigeria - and the researchers admitted traditional
> >> British
> >> languages such as Cornish and Gaelic are also at risk.
> >>
> >> Experts are encouraging native people and anthropologists to capture
> >> myths, folk
> >> songs chants and poems in their dying languages through multi-media
> tools.
> >>
> >> Access full article below:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6081874/Dying-languages-archived-for-future-generations.html
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Sun Sep 20 02:56:28 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:56:28 -0400
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
Message-ID: <SAT.19.SEP.2009.225628.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/

-------
wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon


From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sun Sep 20 14:26:38 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:26:38 -0500
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
In-Reply-To: <4AB599DC.4060509@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.SEP.2009.092638.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Rolland for posting this,
I hope our own native people read it and post their thoughts on it.
I'm amazed at how insensitive people were by their responses on it so far.
It seems so many non-natives assume that any complaint coming from a tribal
nation
to the government must be basically all about money and greed.

Sohahiyoh
(Richard Zane Smith)



On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....
>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/
>
> -------
> wahjeh
> rolland nadjiwon
>
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Sun Sep 20 17:24:25 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:24:25 -0400
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909200726v1315583bybed65130f10528bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.SEP.2009.132425.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Megwetch Sohahiyoh...there is a lot of activity being generated in 
political circles and within the organizations, councils and 
communities. The government is trying a lot of different 'damage 
control' The media is not doing much since the original sensational 
blurbs...again...thanks for caring.

Many of our people are initially stunned by the incident...it is so 
surreal along with the explanations. I think this will not go away easy.

-------
wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon



Richard Zane Smith wrote:
> Thanks Rolland for posting this,
>
> I hope our own native people read it and post their thoughts on it.
> I'm amazed at how insensitive people were by their responses on it so far.
> It seems so many non-natives assume that any complaint coming from a 
> tribal nation
> to the government must be basically all about money and greed. 
>
> Sohahiyoh
> (Richard Zane Smith)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca 
> <mailto:mikinakn at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....
>
>     http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/
>
>     -------
>     wahjeh
>     rolland nadjiwon
>
>
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 12:28:34 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:28:34 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 12:47:37 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:47:37 -0400
Subject: indigenous language in the news
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.084737.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Some might find this of interest...it is great to see academic institutions
recognizing this type of work...


http://aprn.org/2009/09/17/kenai-professor-wins-university-award/


Kenai Professor Wins University Award

Thu, September 17, 2009
Posted in Alaska News <http://aprn.org/category/news/>

**A Kenai Peninsula College professor is the recipient of an annual award
from the University of Alaska Foundation.  Alan Boraas teaches anthropology
at the Kenai River Campus in Soldotna and was selected for the Edith R.
Bullock Prize for Excellence.
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 13:43:51 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:43:51 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <22613185.16233.1253536114913.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.084351.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

kweh Tammy, and all,
is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
to see if they can be helpful within our own community?

I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
Just finished an interactive board book
a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
worm."
if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!

Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
that can be run through the printer with any language.
I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.

richard


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:

> Neskie,
>
> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Weytk Tammy,
>
> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>
> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
> Chase, BC
> V0E 1M3
>
> That would be great thanks.
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
> >
> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something
> to
> > this list.
> >
> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> > some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
> children
> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
> language
> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
> >
> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
> of
> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that you
> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders,
> our
> > artist and our program would still be shown.
> >
> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> > ready, please contact me.
> >
> > Tammy DeCoteau
> > AAIA Native Language Program
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 13:49:36 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:49:36 -0400
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909210643md221f9en8337dc7eec1bbcac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.094936.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
Richard -
I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!

I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems to
me that
moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
so that
there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away from
the native language.

Opinions ?

Susan

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> kweh Tammy, and all,
> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>
> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
> Just finished an interactive board book
> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
> worm."
> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>
> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
> that can be run through the printer with any language.
> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>
> richard
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> Neskie,
>>
>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Weytk Tammy,
>>
>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>
>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>> Chase, BC
>> V0E 1M3
>>
>> That would be great thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>> >
>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something
>> to
>> > this list.
>> >
>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>> language,
>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>> languages.
>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>> children
>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>> language
>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>> >
>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
>> of
>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>> copier.
>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>> language
>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>> you
>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders,
>> our
>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>> >
>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>> > ready, please contact me.
>> >
>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neskie Manuel
>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>
>>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 15:25:25 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:25:25 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <39a679e20909210649v20af1803yc73f4918a5e32218@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.102525.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh Susan,
personnally
I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)

if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
illustrations.

here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:MÁ' , my worm book.

ske:noh
Richard



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
> Richard -
> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>
> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
> to me that
> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
> so that
> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
> from the native language.
>
> Opinions ?
>
> Susan
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>
>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>> Just finished an interactive board book
>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
>> worm."
>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>
>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>
>> richard
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Neskie,
>>>
>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>
>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>
>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>>
>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>> Chase, BC
>>> V0E 1M3
>>>
>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>> >
>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>> something to
>>> > this list.
>>> >
>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>> language,
>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>> languages.
>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>> children
>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>> language
>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>> >
>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
>>> of
>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>> copier.
>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>> language
>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>> you
>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>> Elders, our
>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>> >
>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>> >
>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neskie Manuel
>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 15:39:59 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:39:59 -0400
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909210825j2f435a1cucd0277d3ee57702e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.113959.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks!  Great pictures!  Where can I get a copy of the 'Worm' book ?
S.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> Kweh Susan,
> personnally
> I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
> ( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)
>
> if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
> its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
> illustrations.
>
> here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:MÁ' , my worm book.
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
>> Richard -
>> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>>
>> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
>> to me that
>> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
>> so that
>> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
>> from the native language.
>>
>> Opinions ?
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>   On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>>
>>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>>
>>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>>> Just finished an interactive board book
>>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be
>>> the worm."
>>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>>
>>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky
>>> sheets
>>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>>
>>> richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neskie,
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>>
>>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>>
>>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>>>
>>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>>> Chase, BC
>>>> V0E 1M3
>>>>
>>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>>> >
>>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>>> something to
>>>> > this list.
>>>> >
>>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>>> language,
>>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>>> languages.
>>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>>> children
>>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>>> language
>>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>>> >
>>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by
>>>> a
>>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create
>>>> all of
>>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>>> copier.
>>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>>> language
>>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>>> you
>>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>>> Elders, our
>>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>>> >
>>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neskie Manuel
>>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> **********************************************************************************************
>> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>>
>>
>> Department of English (Primary)
>> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
>> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
>> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>> The Southwest Center
>> University of Arizona,
>> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:25:46 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:25:46 -0500
Subject: Wendat(Huron) Confederacy Language Symposium
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.112546.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh all,
Wyandot(te) of USA and Wendat of Quebec,and specially involved linguists
will be gathering this next weekend for an important Language
Symposium,"Yawenda"
A Wendat Language Training Workshop in Wendake,on the Wendat Reserve in
Quebec
to discuss the revitalization of our once dormant
languages,standardization,and teaching methods.
It is the first of its kind for us.We have high hopes and many ideas to
discuss and debate.
Once scattered to the four directions the Wendat/Wyandot regroup to honor
our ancient Confederation.

We now have several Wendat students gaining their Masters in Wendat
Linguistics
and one now gaining a doctorate in Wendat/Wyandot languages.
Its a difficult,emotional and sometimes painful process,like pressing
paddles to jump start
a heart that once stopped beating, and yet we know we are the living link
bridging our ancestors
into the lives of our childrens future. We join in solidarity with all
indigenous peoples who
know the value of these efforts will keep us from disappearing completely
into the black hole
of modernity and forget who we are, and how to see the world around us.

we value your support,and your prayers for these important
efforts....tizhaméh (thanks)

ské:noh (peace.well-being)
Sohahiyoh
(Richard Zane Smith)
Wyandotte Oklahoma
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:38:54 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:38:54 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <39a679e20909210839p63fcd4b8p7c69ecc3f6cf87b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.113854.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh Susan!

wonderful!
the Wyandotte Nation Culture dept. will receive orders for them.
at this point each book is hand-assembled.
( and i'm still having to punch the finger holes with a leather punch!)

please call  1-918-678-2297  ext. 244 (ask for Sherri)
or email Sherri Clemons <sclemons at wyandotte-nation.org>

or write:
Culture Dept.
64700 E.HWY 60
Wyandotte Nation
Wyandotte Oklahoma 74370

tizhaméh
Richard




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Susan Penfield
<susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks!  Great pictures!  Where can I get a copy of the 'Worm' book ?
> S.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> Kweh Susan,
>> personnally
>> I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
>> ( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)
>>
>> if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
>> its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
>> illustrations.
>>
>> here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:MÁ' , my worm book.
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
>>> Richard -
>>> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
>>> to me that
>>> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I
>>> work so that
>>> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
>>> from the native language.
>>>
>>> Opinions ?
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>>   On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>>>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>>>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>>>> Just finished an interactive board book
>>>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>>>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be
>>>> the worm."
>>>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>>>
>>>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>>>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>>>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky
>>>> sheets
>>>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>>>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>>>
>>>> richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Neskie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file
>>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>>>> Chase, BC
>>>>> V0E 1M3
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>>>> something to
>>>>> > this list.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>>>> language,
>>>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>>>> languages.
>>>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>>>> children
>>>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>>>> language
>>>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as
>>>>> our
>>>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by
>>>>> a
>>>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create
>>>>> all of
>>>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>>>> copier.
>>>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>>>> language
>>>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>>>> you
>>>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>>>> Elders, our
>>>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it
>>>>> is
>>>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Neskie Manuel
>>>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> **********************************************************************************************
>>> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>>> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>>> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>>> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>>>
>>>
>>> Department of English (Primary)
>>> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
>>> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
>>> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>>> The Southwest Center
>>> University of Arizona,
>>> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:52:18 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:52:18 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
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From manuela_noske at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 16:56:59 2009
From: manuela_noske at HOTMAIL.COM (Manuela Noske)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:56:59 -0700
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909210643md221f9en8337dc7eec1bbcac@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Richard,

the Indigenous Language Institute (ILI) teaches a workshop on how to create Native Language print materials (including children's booklets) using Publisher.  A number of example books are available on ILI's website here: http://www.ilinative.org/share/repository.html.  More info on the workshops is available here: http://www.ilinative.org/workshops/. 

 

Best,

Manuela



Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:43:51 -0500
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET
Subject: Re: [ILAT] handwashing book for children
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

kweh Tammy, and all,


is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
to see if they can be helpful within our own community?


I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
Just finished an interactive board book  
a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the worm."

if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!


Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
that can be run through the printer with any language.
I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.


richard




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:

Neskie,

Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program


On Sep 18, 2009, Neskie Manuel <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote: 


Weytk Tammy,

This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at

745 Ska-Hiish Dr
Chase, BC
V0E 1M3

That would be great thanks.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>
> I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something to
> this list.
>
> Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for children
> about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
> prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah language
> version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>
> This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all of
> our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that you
> leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders, our
> artist and our program would still be shown.
>
> If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> ready, please contact me.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program



-- 
Neskie Manuel
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Ph: (866) 423-0911

 		 	   		  
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From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 17:07:56 2009
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:07:56 -0700
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <347146.23892.1253551938952.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.100756.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their notes
& not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.

I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers of
ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to avoid
further attrition of our language.

Just contributing my comments.....

Bernadette A. SantaMaria
Language/Cultura Consultant
White Mountain Apache Tribe



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:

> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very important
> things have been brought up.
>
> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>
> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we were
> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem was
> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>
> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all nice
> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the Dakotah
> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we decided to
> create our own.
>
> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On the
> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards) to
> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to read in
> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking elders
> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>
> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of speakers.
> And the young parents of today, still another generation away, has no
> speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our children are
> not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in Dakotah.  We have had
> some of our books narrated and tell parents these cds are for them to learn
> to read to their children.  But because of all of this, we did subtitle.
>
> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program --
> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
> book.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:07:19 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:07:19 -0700
Subject: Many Tongues One Voice (fwd)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.130719.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sunday 20 September 2009, 1:30pm ABC1
Australia

Many Tongues One Voice

Watch Video Download Video: wmv | mp4

In the first years of settlement in Australia there were more than 250 recorded
Indigenous languages. In just 220 years that figure has dropped dramatically
and only nine languages are considered safe with 20 to 30 languages at various
levels of endangerment. This story looks at how communities are retrieving
their dormant languages from historic books and journals and early film and
audio recordings and maintaining those languages through promoting and teaching
not only Aboriginal youth but all Australians.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/messagestick/stories/s2690210.htm


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:11:10 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:11:10 -0700
Subject: Speaker of rare language loved golf (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.131110.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Speaker of rare language loved golf

Served in the Second World War as a pilot, soon after becoming flying instructor

BY SUSAN LAZARUK, THE PROVINCE SEPTEMBER 20, 2009
British Columbia, CA

FRED SHAUGHNESSY: 1919-2009

Fred Shaughnessy, one of the last remaining estimated 200 speakers of the native
language Kwak'wala on Vancouver Island, has died at age 90.

Shaughnessy, who learned to speak Kwak'wala in Alert Bay on Cormorant Island
east of Port McNeil on Vancouver Island where he was raised, retained it over
the years even as he lived off-reserve.

"He wasn't taught any English when he was a child," said cousin George
Shaughnessy, chief of Wakeman Sound.

Fred Shaughnessy had an excellent command of the language, which is spoken by
only four per cent of the Kwakwaka'wakw, or speakers of Kwak'wala, and none are
under age 35. He was one of the few speakers who still knew the historic
pronunciation.

Access full article below:
http://www.theprovince.com/life/Speaker+rare+language+loved+golf/2013511/story.html


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 19:50:41 2009
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:50:41 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <da1ce9040909211007o2c543758k4432341c8be4fbd4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.145041.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,

I really appreciate this thread!
I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
this very issue.  I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
Elder reading/telling the story....  Any other ideas?

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
Heather


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
<bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
> I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
> taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
> teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
> words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
> concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their notes
> & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>
> I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
> immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
> our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
> speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers of
> ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
> higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
> Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
> conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to avoid
> further attrition of our language.
>
> Just contributing my comments.....
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> Language/Cultura Consultant
> White Mountain Apache Tribe
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>
>> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very important
>> things have been brought up.
>>
>> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>
>> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we were
>> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
>> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem was
>> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>
>> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
>> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all nice
>> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the Dakotah
>> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we decided to
>> create our own.
>>
>> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On the
>> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards) to
>> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to read in
>> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking elders
>> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>>
>> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of
>> speakers.  And the young parents of today, still another generation away,
>> has no speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our
>> children are not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in
>> Dakotah.  We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these cds
>> are for them to learn to read to their children.  But because of all of
>> this, we did subtitle.
>>
>> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program --
>> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>> book.
>>
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:13:51 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:51 -0700
Subject: The need to keep languages alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.131351.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

GLOBAL VOICES

The need to keep languages alive

Sep 21, 2009 04:30 AM
CRAIG AND MARC KIELBURGER

Marie Smith Jones possessed more than the wisdom of her 89 years. She held the
knowledge of an entire culture.

Life in the small village of Cordova, Alaska hadn’t exactly been easy. Jones
married a fisherman and with him raised nine children. She survived influenza
and smallpox. She even beat alcoholism.

In her eighties, it was clear through Jones’ white hair and wrinkled face that
her wisdom was more valuable than any estate. When she died in her sleep in
January 2008 at the age of 89, her greatest possession – her culture and her
language – nearly died with her.

Marie Smith Jones was the last speaker of the Eyak language. Having never taught
it to her children, her native tongue now faced extinction.

“When the last speaker dies, the language is gone leaving no trace behind,” says
Luisa Maffi, director of Terralingua, an organization supporting biological,
cultural and linguistic diversity. “That’s why we need to maintain and
strengthen them, rather than waiting to the brink.”

Access full article below:
http://www.thestar.com/news/globalvoices/article/698453


From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 20:43:06 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:06 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 21:19:42 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.141942.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

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From mjohnson at WSTRIBES.ORG  Mon Sep 21 21:19:24 2009
From: mjohnson at WSTRIBES.ORG (Myra Johnson)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:24 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000001ca3b01$3c367b50$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.141924.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq'u people.  There may be
some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.  

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 21:57:17 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:57:17 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <001201ca3b01$31ca7b80$0440420a@ctwsdom.pri>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.145717.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.

Ted

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq'u people.  There may be
some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.  

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

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From lamanyana at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 22:17:32 2009
From: lamanyana at GMAIL.COM (Michael Braun Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:17:32 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000301ca3b06$7cf51700$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.151732.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My wife is peripherally involved w/ the Confederated Tribes of the
Grand Ronde's Chinook language program - I'll pass this on and see if
they're interested

-Michael

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ted Moomaw
<ted.moomaw at colvilletribes.com> wrote:
> I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
> Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq’u people.  There may be
> some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
>
> I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
>
> Ted


From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 22:46:28 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:28 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <3fb565f10909211517k5a49fc07qe600369312bec75b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.154628.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

You could have her give me a call tomorrow at 509 422-7406, or anyone else
that may be able to utilize a  dict.  of Chinook jargon.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Michael Braun Hamilton
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:18 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

My wife is peripherally involved w/ the Confederated Tribes of the
Grand Ronde's Chinook language program - I'll pass this on and see if
they're interested

-Michael

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ted Moomaw
<ted.moomaw at colvilletribes.com> wrote:
> I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
> Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq’u people.  There may
be
> some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
>
> I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
>
> Ted


From hardman at UFL.EDU  Mon Sep 21 23:37:57 2009
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:37:57 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <7507449.30338.1253565787008.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.193757.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

In our Aymara course we only give the translation if asked (with a click),
and then we also give the grammatical structure, again when asked (with a
click).  http://aymara.ufl.edu/.  I began doing this in books years ago,
giving the same story with and without, in this case, Spanish, glosses,
labeling it the Œteacher¹s version¹, e.g., a vocabulary listing, the story,
the story with sentence gosses, then the story in Spanish then the story
again in Spanish.  This was for publishing without the fancy stuff we have
today (think 30-~40 years ago).  We are now planning to follow the Aymara
with Jaqaru and Kawki in the same way.  I do love the varieties of ways of
handling the problem that you-all are giving.

MJ
Dr. MJ Hardman
Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Perú
website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/



On 9/21/09 4:43 PM, "Tammy DeCoteau" <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET> wrote:

> Heather,
> 
> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.  Too
> much gluing and cutting and then binding.  But then a person could actually
> print two books, one with English and one without.
> 
> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to use
> for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder on
> the inside of the front cover.  It took awhile but we even figured out how to
> insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.  Because we do so
> many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.) 
> 
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
>> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>> 
>> I really appreciate this thread!
>> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
>> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
>> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
>> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
>> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>> 
>> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
>> Heather
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
>> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>>> > I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>>> > taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>>> > teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>>> > words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>>> > concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>>> notes
>>> > & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>> >
>>> > I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
>>> > immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>>> > our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>>> > speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>>> of
>>> > ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
>>> > higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>>> > Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>>> > conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>>> avoid
>>> > further attrition of our language.
>>> >
>>> > Just contributing my comments.....
>>> >
>>> > Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>>> > Language/Cultura Consultant
>>> > White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very important
>>>> >> things have been brought up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we
>>>> were
>>>> >> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal
>>>> college.
>>>> >> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem was
>>>> >> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
>>>> >> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all
>>>> nice
>>>> >> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the
>>>> Dakotah
>>>> >> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we
>>>> decided to
>>>> >> create our own.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On
>>>> the
>>>> >> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards)
to
>>>> >> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to
>>>> read in
>>>> >> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>>> elders
>>>> >> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of
>>>> >> speakers.  And the young parents of today, still another generation
>>>> away,
>>>> >> has no speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>>> >> children are not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in
>>>> >> Dakotah.  We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>>> cds
>>>> >> are for them to learn to read to their children.  But because of all of
>>>> >> this, we did subtitle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program
--
>>>> >> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>>>> >> book.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> >> AAIA Native Language Program
>>> >
> 

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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 23:33:43 2009
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:33:43 -0600
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <7507449.30338.1253565787008.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.173343.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kihchi-marsii por ton niimeel!  Thanks for your email.

Hmmm....

Maybe, we could just print the English on the back page with the
corresponding page numbers...?  (I am thinking as I write....)  That
would mean we wouldn't have to print two books....  Or we could bind a
copy of the book with just Michif and a copy with Michif and English
back to back  as I have seen with English/French pamphlets here in
Canada....

Eekoshi.
Heather

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Heather,
>
> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.
> Too much gluing and cutting and then binding.  But then a person could
> actually print two books, one with English and one without.
>
> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to
> use for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder
> on the inside of the front cover.  It took awhile but we even figured out
> how to insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.  Because we
> do so many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.)
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
>
> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>
> I really appreciate this thread!
> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
> Heather
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>> I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>> taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>> teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>> words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>> concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>> notes
>> & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>
>> I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
>> immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>> our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>> speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>> of
>> ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
>> higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>> Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>> conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>> avoid
>> further attrition of our language.
>>
>> Just contributing my comments.....
>>
>> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>> Language/Cultura Consultant
>> White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>
>>> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very important
>>> things have been brought up.
>>>
>>> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>
>>> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we
>>> were
>>> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
>>> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem was
>>> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>
>>> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
>>> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all
>>> nice
>>> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the
>>> Dakotah
>>> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we decided
>>> to
>>> create our own.
>>>
>>> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On the
>>> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards) to
>>> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to
>>> read in
>>> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>> elders
>>> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>>>
>>> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of
>>> speakers.  And the young parents of today, still another generation away,
>>> has no speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>> children are not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in
>>> Dakotah.  We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>> cds
>>> are for them to learn to read to their children.  But because of all of
>>> this, we did subtitle.
>>>
>>> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program
>>> --
>>> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>>> book.
>>>
>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>


From hardman at UFL.EDU  Mon Sep 21 23:45:17 2009
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:45:17 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <C6DD8695.11255%hardman@ufl.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.194517.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ooops.  This is the correct version.

On 9/21/09 7:37 PM, "Dr. Hardman" <hardman at ufl.edu> wrote:

> In our Aymara course we only give the translation if asked (with a click), and
> then we also give the grammatical structure, again when asked (with a click).
> http://aymara.ufl.edu/.  I began doing this in books years ago, giving the
> same story with and without, in this case, Spanish, glosses, labeling it the
> Œteacher¹s version¹, e.g., a vocabulary listing, the story, the story with
> sentence gosses, then the story in Spanish then the story again in Jaqaru,
> alone.  This was for publishing without the fancy stuff we have today (think
> 30-~40 years ago).  We are now planning to follow the Aymara with Jaqaru and
> Kawki in the same way.  I do love the varieties of ways of handling the
> problem that you-all are giving.
> 
> MJ
> Dr. MJ Hardman
> Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Perú
> website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/21/09 4:43 PM, "Tammy DeCoteau" <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET> wrote:
> 
>> Heather,
>> 
>> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
>> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
>> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.  Too
>> much gluing and cutting and then binding.  But then a person could actually
>> print two books, one with English and one without.
>> 
>> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to use
>> for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder on
>> the inside of the front cover.  It took awhile but we even figured out how to
>> insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.  Because we do so
>> many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.) 
>> 
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>>> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate this thread!
>>> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
>>> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
>>> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
>>> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
>>> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
>>> Heather
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
>>> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>>>> > I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>>>> > taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>>>> > teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>>>> > words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>>>> > concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>>>> notes
>>>> > & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>>> >
>>>> > I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used
>>>> only
>>>> > immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>>>> > our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>>>> > speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>>>> of
>>>> > ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have
a
>>>> > higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>>>> > Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>>>> > conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>>>> avoid
>>>> > further attrition of our language.
>>>> >
>>>> > Just contributing my comments.....
>>>> >
>>>> > Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>>>> > Language/Cultura Consultant
>>>> > White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very
>>>>> important
>>>>> >> things have been brought up.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we
>>>>> were
>>>>> >> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal
>>>>> college.
>>>>> >> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem
>>>>> was
>>>>> >> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
>>>>> >> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all
>>>>> nice
>>>>> >> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the
>>>>> Dakotah
>>>>> >> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we
>>>>> decided to
>>>>> >> create our own.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards)
to
>>>>> >> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to
>>>>> read in
>>>>> >> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>>>> elders
>>>>> >> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of
>>>>> >> speakers.  And the young parents of today, still another generation
>>>>> away,
>>>>> >> has no speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>>>> >> children are not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in
>>>>> >> Dakotah.  We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>>>> cds
>>>>> >> are for them to learn to read to their children.  But because of all of
>>>>> >> this, we did subtitle.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program
--
>>>>> >> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> book.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> >> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>> >
>> 
> 

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From johndillinger43 at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 03:17:27 2009
From: johndillinger43 at HOTMAIL.COM (Ryan Denzer-King)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:17:27 -0600
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000001ca3b01$3c367b50$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.211727.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>


Hello Ted,

 

I don't work on Chinook specifically, but I am working on some projects on the Plateau linguistic area, of which Chinook is a part.  I would certainly be interested in any resources you have to share.

 

Ryan Denzer-King
 


Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU





Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
Ted 		 	   		  
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Tue Sep 22 07:10:03 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:10:03 -0400
Subject: Many Tongues One Voice (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20090921130719.progkoscgoccokks@www.email.arizona.edu>
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Thanks for the site Phil...

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rolland nadjiwon



phil cash cash wrote:
> Sunday 20 September 2009, 1:30pm ABC1
> Australia
>
> Many Tongues One Voice
>
> Watch Video Download Video: wmv | mp4
>
> In the first years of settlement in Australia there were more than 250 recorded
> Indigenous languages. In just 220 years that figure has dropped dramatically
> and only nine languages are considered safe with 20 to 30 languages at various
> levels of endangerment. This story looks at how communities are retrieving
> their dormant languages from historic books and journals and early film and
> audio recordings and maintaining those languages through promoting and teaching
> not only Aboriginal youth but all Australians.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.abc.net.au/tv/messagestick/stories/s2690210.htm
>
>   


From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Sep 22 12:33:28 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:33:28 -0500
Subject: chinook language
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Tue Sep 22 14:25:01 2009
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:25:01 -0700
Subject: chinook language
In-Reply-To: <435895167.17061.1253622808513.JavaMail.root@vms246.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.072501.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

Dai s'la,

In the same boat here for a long time with Milluk materials.  I wanted to have my own copy of Coos Texts by Frachtenberg, but unless I borrowed it through two libraries from the Univ. of Michigan or somewhere else, I was out of luck.  Enter Google Books.  I know have my own copy in PDF .  Amazing.  http://books.google.com/books?id=g9NYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Coos+texts+Frachtenberg&ei=ANu4Sqq3CYHENbeviNkP#v=onepage&q=&f=false   I know some of you are a bit worried/scared about Google and copyright, as am I as an author, but... for indigenous language research on old out of copyright books, it's been a godsend.  I now have most every hard-to-get book I've ever encountered in my bibliographic research on Kusan languages and beyond.  All free.  All downloadable, etc.  (No, I do not work or get sponsored by Google to say any of this... after you see the results below, you'll know why I'm telling you this)

My bet is that the Chinook resource in question may already be available online.  Looking up Chinook dictionaries, I found the following:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rhsOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA5&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=edq4SuHgD4WQNoWDrLYP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=03sZAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=o9u4Suj6F5SCNrOj2MIP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=-UMSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+texts&ei=wtu4SqHbCJ2sNZ6B8dsP#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Looking for Dakota language resources (including the bible text you already own):

http://books.google.com/books?id=vXhEGl6k4cEC&pg=PP14&dq="dakota+language"+riggs&lr=&ei=2Ny4SuSSFYmGNpy_0N0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20language%22%20riggs&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=mqoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&dq="dakota+wowapi+wakan"+riggs&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=m924SqPKMIi0NvTvsM0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20wowapi%20wakan%22%20riggs&f=false

If some of you don't know about this resource, you must.  

Tsu tsi wes,

Troy




________________________________
From: Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33:28 AM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook language

Han Mitakuyapi,

Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this listserv, can use it.

I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in the Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing the first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is amazing how much language is in the bible.

Tammy DeCoteau
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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Tue Sep 22 15:41:08 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:41:08 -0700
Subject: chinook language
In-Reply-To: <435895167.17061.1253622808513.JavaMail.root@vms246.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.084108.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

That would be awesome,   I also would like access to the resource but felt
someone else would have more benefit that was working specifically with
Chinook.

 

If anyone knows how to get this done would you let me know.

 

Ted

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Tammy DeCoteau
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook language

 

Han Mitakuyapi,

Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the
dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this listserv,
can use it.

I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in the
Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing the
first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is amazing how
much language is in the bible.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 

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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Tue Sep 22 15:48:41 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:48:41 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W333D0FA44CDBFE56215B4AB1DC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.084841.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I work with nsvlxcin (okanogan lang.),  which language of the Plateau are
you working with? (out of interest) 

 

Chinook was used here also as a trade and universal lang.,  it seems
everyone around the NW had used to some extent.  

 

Ted

 

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ryan Denzer-King
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:17 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Hello Ted,
 
I don't work on Chinook specifically, but I am working on some projects on
the Plateau linguistic area, of which Chinook is a part.  I would certainly
be interested in any resources you have to share.
 
Ryan Denzer-King
 

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

 

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 22 20:44:21 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:44:21 -0700
Subject: brief update...
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.134421.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

’ehé·, ’í·nim himyú·me ka· liláwtiwa·ma,
(greetings, friends!)
I will be on travel for the next 8-10 days so my news postings will stop until
I return to my ILAT news central headquarters desk.  ;-p  Feel free to offer
any news items that may be of interest.  Please carry on with your very
interesting & timely discussions....
Phil Cash Cash (Cayuse/Nez Perce)
ILAT mg
UofA

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From mccreery at UVIC.CA  Tue Sep 22 20:38:36 2009
From: mccreery at UVIC.CA (Dale McCreery)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:38:36 -0700
Subject: chinook language
In-Reply-To: <612998.58197.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.133836.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kiyawaaw

I don't know about the chinook language so much, but as far as I can tell
every dictionary ever made of chinook jargon is online, and usually in a
couple places.  Not only that, but there are prayerbooks, song books, and
other materials also available.  I found a lot of materials from the
'early canadiana online' website, not just for Chinook Jargon, but also
for a variety of other languages.

www.canadiana.org

http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/SearchResults?id=e3a45aaa761cf5ec&query=+++Chinook+jargon&range=subject&bool=all&subset=all&pubfrom=&pubto=

Dale

> Dai s'la,
>
> In the same boat here for a long time with Milluk materials.  I wanted to
> have my own copy of Coos Texts by Frachtenberg, but unless I borrowed it
> through two libraries from the Univ. of Michigan or somewhere else, I was
> out of luck.  Enter Google Books.  I know have my own copy in PDF .
> Amazing.
> http://books.google.com/books?id=g9NYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Coos+texts+Frachtenberg&ei=ANu4Sqq3CYHENbeviNkP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
>   I know some of you are a bit worried/scared about Google and copyright,
> as am I as an author, but... for indigenous language research on old out
> of copyright books, it's been a godsend.  I now have most every
> hard-to-get book I've ever encountered in my bibliographic research on
> Kusan languages and beyond.  All free.  All downloadable, etc.  (No, I do
> not work or get sponsored by Google to say any of this... after you see
> the results below, you'll know why I'm telling you this)
>
> My bet is that the Chinook resource in question may already be available
> online.  Looking up Chinook dictionaries, I found the following:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=rhsOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA5&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=edq4SuHgD4WQNoWDrLYP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=03sZAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=o9u4Suj6F5SCNrOj2MIP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=-UMSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+texts&ei=wtu4SqHbCJ2sNZ6B8dsP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
>
> Looking for Dakota language resources (including the bible text you
> already own):
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=vXhEGl6k4cEC&pg=PP14&dq="dakota+language"+riggs&lr=&ei=2Ny4SuSSFYmGNpy_0N0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20language%22%20riggs&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=mqoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&dq="dakota+wowapi+wakan"+riggs&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=m924SqPKMIi0NvTvsM0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20wowapi%20wakan%22%20riggs&f=false
>
> If some of you don't know about this resource, you must.
>
> Tsu tsi wes,
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET>
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33:28 AM
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook language
>
> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the
> dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this
> listserv, can use it.
>
> I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in
> the Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing
> the first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is
> amazing how much language is in the bible.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Tue Sep 22 21:34:26 2009
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:34:26 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <347146.23892.1253551938952.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.173426.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

One point to consider in deciding whether to subtitle is that nowadays,
with the ease of computer publication, you can do both. You might, for example,
produce some monolingual copies for use in an immersion school and some
copies with subtitles for use by parents who don't know the language and
possibly for sale outside the community if you consider that appropriate and
want to try to generate some revenue that way.

Also, if you create on-line versions, you can initially present each page
monolingually but make it possible to request information in English,
e.g. the meaning of individual words or the translation of a sentence.

Bill


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 23:18:31 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:18:31 -0700
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <20090922213426.E42F4B2518@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.161831.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Bill -- excellent point!  Technology presents lots of options -- As
always, the preparation of materials
has to be done with the overall goals and abilities of the learners in mind.

Best,
Susan



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM, William J Poser <wjposer at ldc.upenn.edu>wrote:

> One point to consider in deciding whether to subtitle is that nowadays,
> with the ease of computer publication, you can do both. You might, for
> example,
> produce some monolingual copies for use in an immersion school and some
> copies with subtitles for use by parents who don't know the language and
> possibly for sale outside the community if you consider that appropriate
> and
> want to try to generate some revenue that way.
>
> Also, if you create on-line versions, you can initially present each page
> monolingually but make it possible to request information in English,
> e.g. the meaning of individual words or the translation of a sentence.
>
> Bill
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 23:58:05 2009
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:58:05 -0600
Subject: Saskatchewan First Nation Speaking Project
In-Reply-To: <1F600A93-1871-4B5D-9202-1A75CE312442@umn.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.175805.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saskatchewan First Nation Speaking Project

www.allanadam.com

Saskatchewan First Nations Language Speaking Project

Vision

To enable individuals, families, organizations and communities to increase speaking ability of First Nation

languages in Saskatchewan.

Goal

To develop a method for First Nation language learners to speak a base vocabulary so they can converse with

fluent speakers and work towards gaining oral fluency

Principles

· No cost to learn, resources are free

· Accessible to everyone

· Community driven by volunteers

· Oral fluency is most valued

· Minimal resources required to run programs

· Enables Elders to pass knowledge directly to learners

· Focus on learning whole phrases versus grammar and word lists

· Takes advantage of digital technology and internet

Tools

1. First Nations Language Speaking Circle

2. First Nations Language Online Speaking Lessons

3. First Nations Language Audio Lessons

First Nations Language Speaking Circle – The tool to link fluent speakers to learners in one room

In April 2009, the Regina First Nations Language Speaking Circle began. This group began with a group of

interested fluent speakers and interested language learners who met once a week for an hour and a half to learn

to speak a First Nations language. Schools, workplaces and other regions of the country have expressed interest in also starting local speaking circles. 

First Nations Language Online Speaking Lessons – The tool to link fluent speakers to learners

globally

Shortly after the Regina First Nations Language Speaking Circle began to meet, the lessons taught at each

session were recorded using a digital recorder and uploaded to a website for learners to practice. This allows

learners who do not know a fluent speaker to continue to practice speaking daily which is the most effective

way of learning. So far there are 800+ files online. By the end of the project, there will be approximately 1000

phrases total in 9 language categories on this website. There are now both video and audio lessons in Woods Cree, Plains Cree,

Nakota, Saulteaux, Dene, and will be adding Ojibway and Dakota soon.

First Nations Language Audio Lessons – For learners without high speed internet access

For communities and individuals with no to high speed internet, the video lessons are inaccessible. We are now

working on different way to the digital audio files with others.

We have recently added these files to the web site so people can download them to make their own CD’s. We

are hoping that communities will create and share copies of these files with others.

The Coordinators

This project is a personal project for Allan Adam and Cathy Wheaton. It is unfunded and not affiliated with any institution. Allan Adam is a fluent Dene speaker,

interpreter/translator and instructor originally from Fond du Lac Denesuline First Nation. Cathy Wheaton is

Woodlands Cree from La Ronge Indian Band but wishes to become a fluent speaker like most of her family.

Allan and Cathy have spent hundreds of hours January 2009 working on this project. It was initially not

anticipated to be this large but it grew very quickly!

Thank You!

Everyone who made this project a reality gave their time freely on a volunteer basis. Elders who spent time with the project includes Nakota Elders: Fred Spyglass of Mosquito First Nation and Wilma Kennedy of Carry the Kettle. Our fluent speakers were Bill Cook, Bernie Cook, Guy Albert, Reg and Marlene Bugler,

Darren Okemaysim, Doreen Oakes, Allan Adam, Natalie Owl, Alice Taysap and many others who attended our

weekly Speaking Circles. Jessica Generoux who works at the Albert Library offered free space and

program promotion for the Speaking Circle. Allan Adam donated web site space on his web site for this project. He also records the audio files with Elders

and fluent speakers, edits and creates the online videos. Cathy Wheaton compiles the common phrase lists for

interviews, organizes the web site content, finds external links, writes the materials, coordinates the speaking

circles and uploads files to Youtube. Together we travel to communities to interview and meet Elders on our

own expense in our spare time. We encourage others with similar interests to do the same!

Contact:

Allan Adam

(306) 960-5192

(306) 425-3354

allan.adam at sasktel.net

Cathy Wheaton

(306) 425-0488

(306) 425-3354

chimiskwew at hotmail.com
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From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 23 17:27:36 2009
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:27:36 -0700
Subject: Books online: Gutenberg Project
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%200909230000183410.000D@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.102736.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks to Troy for alerting us to the Google source for Native texts.
For those concerned about indirectly contributing to a commercial
enterprise, no matter how apparently altruistic, there is the volunteer
alternative of the Gutenberg Project. It was started at the University
of Illinois by one man typing in texts by hand, gradually joined by
volunteers doing the same thing, but with the advent of easy scanning,
any book can be entered into the collection. They welcome volunteer
contributions of time or money, and have no ulterior motive. This would
be a good place to archive Native texts, or any books that are not in
copyright. You can request a free CD of recently added texts, or a DVD
containing nearly 10,000 books on one disk.

Here is a link to their web site:

     http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

  Rudy


From saxon at UVIC.CA  Wed Sep 23 17:43:38 2009
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:43:38 -0700
Subject: Wade Davis on CBC radio and on tour
In-Reply-To: <20090923102736.1fgg80ocw8gwk04w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.104338.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wade Davis will be speaking on 'why ancient knowledge matters in the modern world' and publishing a book called 'The Wayfinders'. His tour and the book are part of the CBC Massey Lectures series. The lectures will be broadcast on the Ideas program (CBC) on 2-6 November 2009.

Here is a quote from the CBC publicity:
"In The Wayfinders, Wade Davis offers a gripping and enlightening account of this urgent crisis. He leads us on a fascinating tour through a handful of indigenous cultures, describing the worldviews they represent and reminding us of the encroaching danger to humankind's survival should they disappear."

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/massey.html

_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/


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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Wed Sep 23 19:15:25 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:15:25 -0500
Subject: Wade Davis on CBC radio and on tour
In-Reply-To: <C6DFAC5A.2D29%saxon@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.141525.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

tizhaméh Leslie,this sounds really excellent.
We've all been hearing the death nell bell about languages disappearing
daily
but hopefully these kind of lecturers and writers can put in clear words for
the rest of the world why this preoccupation with our languages isn't some
sort of infatuation or romance with the past but at its core is really about
the future and survival.

Richard
Wyandotte Oklahoma




On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Leslie Saxon <saxon at uvic.ca> wrote:

>  Wade Davis will be speaking on 'why ancient knowledge matters in the
> modern world' and publishing a book called 'The Wayfinders'. His tour and
> the book are part of the CBC Massey Lectures series. The lectures will be
> broadcast on the Ideas program (CBC) on 2-6 November 2009.
>
> Here is a quote from the CBC publicity:
> "In *The Wayfinders*, *Wade Davis* offers a gripping and enlightening
> account of this urgent crisis. He leads us on a fascinating tour through a
> handful of indigenous cultures, describing the worldviews they represent and
> reminding us of the encroaching danger to humankind’s survival should they
> disappear."
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/massey.html
>
> _________________________________
> Leslie Saxon
> Department of Linguistics
> University of Victoria
> Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
> (250) 721-7433 (office)
> (250) 721-7423 (fax)
> http://www.uvic.ca/ling/
>
> Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
> http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/
>
>
>
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 24 00:03:44 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:03:44 -0400
Subject: Books online: Gutenberg Project
In-Reply-To: <20090923102736.1fgg80ocw8gwk04w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.200344.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Rudy, there is also the "Internet Archive"
http://www.archive.org/index.php. They have a number of important works
already scanned and available free. For example the Handbook of American
Indian Languages is available, volume three can be found here
http://www.archive.org/details/rosettaproject_tqw_morsyn-2 ... the online
browsing option is very nice. The site can also serve as a host for digital
artifacts. They have traditionally been "independent" but with Google's
recent moves to make books available online they have started working with
the likes of Microsoft. Shannon

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> Thanks to Troy for alerting us to the Google source for Native texts.
> For those concerned about indirectly contributing to a commercial
> enterprise, no matter how apparently altruistic, there is the volunteer
> alternative of the Gutenberg Project. It was started at the University
> of Illinois by one man typing in texts by hand, gradually joined by
> volunteers doing the same thing, but with the advent of easy scanning,
> any book can be entered into the collection. They welcome volunteer
> contributions of time or money, and have no ulterior motive. This would
> be a good place to archive Native texts, or any books that are not in
> copyright. You can request a free CD of recently added texts, or a DVD
> containing nearly 10,000 books on one disk.
>
> Here is a link to their web site:
>
>    http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
>  Rudy
>
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From MBuckner at MISSOURISTATE.EDU  Wed Sep 30 14:36:34 2009
From: MBuckner at MISSOURISTATE.EDU (Buckner, Margaret L)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:36:34 -0500
Subject: student looking for summer project
In-Reply-To: <612998.58197.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.093634.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILAT listserv members,

I am studying linguistic anthropology at Missouri State University, where I am a senior. I am looking for a project to which I could contribute this summer, preferably one centered on linguistics--archaeological summer programs are plentiful, but linguistically-focused project are much harder to find. I do not require a paycheck (although that would be nice), but room and board in return for my time would be great.

Thank you,
Braden Elliott

P.S.  Please reply to me directly at:  hobo.hermit at gmail.com
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 17:13:07 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:13:07 -0400
Subject: Student Internships!
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.131307.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILAT members,

Helen Aristar Dry sent me the following note with permission to share it
with all of you:

Last summer was our third year of taking summer interns--it has been a
highly successful program--of the 9 interns we've had, 4 have stayed on past
the summer to work on 4 NSF projects: LL-MAP, MultiTree, LEGO, and now the
ELIIP workshop.

We have also created a linguistics internship register at
http://linguistlist.org/internship/index.cfm

It looks like we have 14 open internships currently listed.  We will be
advertising the LINGUIST List 2010 Summer Internship there shortly.


-Helen
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Buckner, Margaret L <
MBuckner at missouristate.edu> wrote:

> Dear ILAT listserv members,
>
> I am studying linguistic anthropology at Missouri State University, where I
> am a senior. I am looking for a project to which I could contribute this
> summer, preferably one centered on linguistics--archaeological summer
> programs are plentiful, but linguistically-focused project are much harder
> to find. I do not require a paycheck (although that would be nice), but room
> and board in return for my time would be great.
>
> Thank you,
> Braden Elliott
>
> P.S.  Please reply to me directly at:  hobo.hermit at gmail.com
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From tgranadillo at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:01:56 2009
From: tgranadillo at GMAIL.COM (Tania Granadillo)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:01:56 -0400
Subject: Elan help anyone?
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.150156.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi
I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
great too...

Thanks!
Tania
-- 
Tania Granadillo
Assistant Professor
Anthropology and Linguistics
Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
University of Western Ontario
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From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:15:00 2009
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea Berez)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:15:00 -0700
Subject: Elan help anyone?
In-Reply-To: <fe1b10060909301201j68cd8010m31b81458897d2e0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.121500.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Tania,

I have some course materials from the InField workshop on ELAN in 2008 that
contain step-by-step instructions for doing what you'd like to do. You can
download them here:
http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/faculty/infield/courses/elan.html

In the coursepack file, you can look at the section on "Creating a
two-language basic annotation" for your interview, and maybe the section on
full IGT is what you want for your "traditional linguistic elicitation."
There's also some information on wrapping your head around tiers and
linguistic types.

Good luck!
HTH,
Andrea
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Tania Granadillo <tgranadillo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
> past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
> that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
> make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
> to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
> and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
> english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
> if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
> great too...
>
> Thanks!
> Tania
> --
> Tania Granadillo
> Assistant Professor
> Anthropology and Linguistics
> Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
> University of Western Ontario
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:50:06 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:50:06 -0400
Subject: Elan help anyone?
In-Reply-To: <fe1b10060909301201j68cd8010m31b81458897d2e0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.155006.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I was just going to say, "Write to Andrea Berez" -- but there she is!  The
materials she developed for last summer's 'InField' were wonderful!  Glad
you are both on ILAT!!

Susan

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tania Granadillo <tgranadillo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
> past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
> that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
> make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
> to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
> and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
> english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
> if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
> great too...
>
> Thanks!
> Tania
> --
> Tania Granadillo
> Assistant Professor
> Anthropology and Linguistics
> Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
> University of Western Ontario
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  3 17:26:24 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:26:24 -0700
Subject: Update: iTunes Store offers Cherokee language revitalization
 application (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.3.SEP.2009.102624.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thurs, Sept 03, 2009

Update: iTunes Store offers Cherokee language revitalization application

By Jami Custer
Staff Writer

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. ?Thornton Media Inc. has developed an iTunes application that
allows the Cherokee language and other indigenous languages to be downloaded
onto handheld game consoles, MP3 players and cell phones.

Company officials ? who also created RezWorld, a video game designed to
revitalize Native languages ? said the language software is called Language Pal
and can program audio recordings of indigenous languages in multiple dialects.
It also allows the programming of electronic flashcards, archived recordings,
multiple choice games and thousands of audio files with searchable databases on
the Nintendo DSi, a portable game system.

?We wanted to create software that allows any tribe to program their own
language onto a quality handheld device. The Nintendo DSi is an obvious choice
because the DS series is the best-selling handheld in history,? Thornton Media
CEO Don Thornton said.

Access full article below:
http://www.cherokeephoenix.org/4010/Article.aspx


From lamanyana at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  4 16:57:26 2009
From: lamanyana at GMAIL.COM (Michael Braun Hamilton)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:57:26 -0700
Subject: Help for Mayan speaker
In-Reply-To: <5ba2490d0907261147v207e6de3kb55cfa8fa1a4b458@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.SEP.2009.095726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Another person to try is John Haviland at UCSD -
http://www.anthro.ucsd.edu/~jhaviland/

-Michael

2009/7/26 Slavom?r ??pl? <bulbulthegreat at gmail.com>:
> Dear Don,
>
> David Kaufman (of http://anthro-ling.blogspot.com/) does a lot of work
> on Mayan and could probably at least point you in the right direction.
>
> b.
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Don Osborn<dzo at bisharat.net> wrote:
>> I've received a request for help for an 18 year old Mayan speaker in Florida
>> who has little Spanish or English. Is anyone aware of resources - human,
>> material, or online - for speakers of Mayan languages in the US?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any leads.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>


From k.arnette at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  4 17:53:32 2009
From: k.arnette at GMAIL.COM (K Arnette)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:53:32 -0500
Subject: Help for Mayan speaker
In-Reply-To: <010201ca0c5c$68f59550$3ae0bff0$@net>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.SEP.2009.125332.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Don,

On the outside chance that you are still searching for assistance, I
forwarded your message to a local individual who may be able to provide help
or point you in the right direction. Here is what he said:

"If the person is a speaker of Yucatec Maya I may be able to help.  If not I
might be able to orient them as to who to contact concerning the other Maya
languages. You can pass along my contact information to the person if that
would help."

All the best wishes,



John F. Chuchiak IV, Ph.D.

Associate Professor of Colonial Latin American History

Young Honors College Professor

Director, Latin American, Caribbean and Hispanic Studies Program

Chair, Provost's Committee on International Area Studies

 441 Strong Hall

Department of History

Missouri State University

Springfield, Missouri  65897

(417) 836-5425

(417) 836-5523 (FAX)

(417) 773-4276  (CELL)

JohnChuchiak at missouristate.edu

www.missouristate.edu/history/chuchiak/template



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Don Osborn <dzo at bisharat.net> wrote:

>  I've received a request for help for an 18 year old Mayan speaker in
> Florida who has little Spanish or English. Is anyone aware of resources -
> human, material, or online - for speakers of Mayan languages in the US?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any leads.
>
>
>
> Don
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:14:56 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:14:56 -0700
Subject: Dying Shina language finds a saviour, after all (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.121456.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dying Shina language finds a saviour, after all

A Gilgit university steps in to help preserve the widely spoken language

Shabbir Mir
India

Gilgit, Sep 06: The Karakorum International University (KIU) has stepped in to
rescue Gilgit-Baltistan?s major dialect - Shina - from extinction.

Shina, the dominant language being spoken by approximately 60 percent people of
this region, and also spoken in parts of Indian Kashmir, is facing danger of
extinction because of lack of patronage by the government and the civil
society?s insufficient contribution in the erstwhile Northern Areas, where a
package of political reforms unveiled recently by the Prime Minister upgraded
its status and made it equivalent to that of a province.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:17:09 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:17:09 -0700
Subject: Promoting indigenous languages on film (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.121709.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Promoting indigenous languages on film

By Akintayo Abodunrin
September 4, 2009 06:09PMT
Africa

The relevance of indigenous languages, an issue that has generated lively
debates among scholars, came to fore again at the third edition of ?Behind the
Screen', a festival of indigenous African films, held from August 23 to 28,
2009, in Akure, Ondo State.

With ?The Impact and Survival of Indigenous Languages in Films' as its theme,
the weeklong festival organised by Remdel Optimum Communications, a movie
production and distribution company, provided a forum to examine how making
films in native languages, like writing in local languages, could aid the
propagation and preservation of African culture.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:23:18 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:23:18 -0700
Subject: Language a cultural priority (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.122318.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2009

Language a cultural priority

Posted By JENNIFER HAMILTON-MCCHARLES, THE NUGGET
Canada

Tasheena Sarazin lost her native language at the age of 10.

But she's determined not to let the same thing happen to her two boys.

I know some words, but my partner knows Cree and I get him to speak it around
our children as much as he can," she said Sunday at the Nipissing First Nation
Traditional Powwow on Jocko Point.

I may not be able to understand what he's saying, but I really want them to
learn it."

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:25:08 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:25:08 -0700
Subject: Young families breathe new life into American Indian languages
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.122508.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Young families breathe new life into American Indian languages

By Stephen Magagnini
smagagnini at sacbee.com

Published: Sunday, Sep. 6, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 1B
USA

Long-dormant California Indian languages and cultures are enjoying a renaissance
among American Indians, and no one embodies that more than the Ramirez family.

"Our daughter's first words were 'Utha, Utha,' which means mom in Miwok," said
her father, Petee Ramirez, as he cradled his 4-month old son, Ahumate ? bear in
Miwok.

Ramirez and his wife, Jennifer ? whose bloodline comes from several California
Indian nations ? joined more than 200 other native people and linguists this
weekend at the Language Is Life Conference 2009 at the University of
California, Davis. The gathering showcased indigenous languages, which are
fading as elders pass on.

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http://www.sacbee.com/education/story/2163402.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  7 19:30:33 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:30:33 -0700
Subject: School stimulus plan fails test for neediest (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.7.SEP.2009.123033.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

School stimulus plan fails test for neediest

Justine Ferrari, Education reporter | September 02, 2009
Article from:  The Australian

THE neediest high schools in Australia have been denied funding to build science
labs and language centres after the federal government ignored its own
guidelines and redirected $200 million to help pay for a blowout in its primary
school building program.

The Australian understands 140 of the nation's most disadvantaged and
under-resourced high schools have missed out on the new facilities after the
government last week cancelled a planned second round of the $1billion program.

The three schools judged by an independent panel to be most in need of the
science labs and language centres are in remote areas and have a high
proportion of indigenous students. They had applied for projects with a
combined value of $3 million but have received not one cent between them.

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26015467-5013871,00.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep  8 16:51:09 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:51:09 -0700
Subject: Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.8.SEP.2009.095109.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

POSTED ON Monday, September 07, 2009 AT 11:07PM

Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree

BY PHIL FEROLITO
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
USA

When Virginia Beavert was just a teenager, she was appointed by the Yakama
Tribal Council to work with an anthropologist studying the tribe's culture on
the reservation.

Beavert was the only tribal member then who could speak English and several
dialects of the 14 different tribes that make up the Yakama Nation.

"I had to talk to the people in their own dialect," 87-year-old Beavert
recalled.

She had no idea that her translating skills would eventually lead her to helping
the tribe preserve its language.

Now, after playing a key role in developing a 576-page dictionary of her native
language, she has been awarded an honorary doctorate degree from the University
of Washington.

Access full article below:
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2009/09/07/keeper-of-yakama-language-awarded-honorary-degree


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep  8 19:56:09 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:56:09 -0400
Subject: Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <20090908095109.oww9gc08gwc80w8w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.8.SEP.2009.155609.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is SO well deserved!  Go Virginia!
She is an inspiration to all of us who have had the gift of knowing her!

Susan

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM, phil cash cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> POSTED ON Monday, September 07, 2009 AT 11:07PM
>
> Keeper of Yakama language awarded honorary degree
>
> BY PHIL FEROLITO
> YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
> USA
>
> When Virginia Beavert was just a teenager, she was appointed by the Yakama
> Tribal Council to work with an anthropologist studying the tribe's culture
> on
> the reservation.
>
> Beavert was the only tribal member then who could speak English and several
> dialects of the 14 different tribes that make up the Yakama Nation.
>
> "I had to talk to the people in their own dialect," 87-year-old Beavert
> recalled.
>
> She had no idea that her translating skills would eventually lead her to
> helping
> the tribe preserve its language.
>
> Now, after playing a key role in developing a 576-page dictionary of her
> native
> language, she has been awarded an honorary doctorate degree from the
> University
> of Washington.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2009/09/07/keeper-of-yakama-language-awarded-honorary-degree
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Tue Sep  8 21:37:41 2009
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:37:41 -1000
Subject: FINAL REMINDER: LLCMC Conference preregistration deadline
 September 15
Message-ID: <TUE.8.SEP.2009.113741.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

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The LLCMC Conference will explore the use of computers as a medium of
communication in a wide variety of online language learning communities.
Highlights will include a plenary talk by Dr. Gilberte Furstenberg
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Immediately preceding LLCMC will be a special pre-conference event
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From martin at KAMUSI.ORG  Wed Sep  9 06:50:02 2009
From: martin at KAMUSI.ORG (Martin Benjamin)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:50:02 +0200
Subject: African Locales: for completion THIS MONTH
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.085002.0200.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The African Network for Localization (ANLoc) is seeking immediate help
to create Locales for 100 African languages. You can view a
description of the project at http://www.it46.se/afrigen

You can help in one of three ways:
-> volunteer to work on a locale yourself (the project will help you
every step of the way!)
-> play matchmaker - introduce someone who can volunteer for their language
-> spread the word - pass along this message to your networks, so that
we increase the chances of finding volunteers for many different
languages

THIS YEAR'S DEADLINE to get new languages into the CLDR (Common
Locales Data Repository), the international system used to produce all
major software on the planet, is OCTOBER 1. So, we need to connect
with people who speak languages from all over Africa.  And, we need to
complete each locale THIS MONTH.

The full list of languages currently in the project is at
http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php . If your favorite language
shows any red in any of the bars next to it, please volunteer to help
complete the locale!

It's easy to volunteer - just send an email to
locales at africanlocalization.net

The interface to build a locale in your favorite African language is
available in English, French, and Swahili. Building a locale only
takes a couple of hours. Please tell your friends, tell your
colleagues, tell your networks!

A quick, true story - one Friday last month, someone in Nairobi took a
couple of minutes to provide an introduction between the Locales
project and a colleague of theirs working on the Kreole Morisyen
language of Mauritius.  A few emails were exchanged, and by Monday the
Morisyen locale was 90% finished.  By the end of that week, the locale
was complete.  On October 1, this locale will be submitted to CLDR.
By early next year, Morisyen will be forevermore part of the universe
of languages available for information technology development.

It just takes one person and a couple of hours to finish a locale for
a language, but it takes a lot of villagers on the web to find that
one person.  Thanks in advance for volunteering, for introducing
contacts, and/or for passing along this message!


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:07:41 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:07:41 -0700
Subject: Yukon elder honoured for Tlingit language work (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.090741.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Yukon elder honoured for Tlingit language work

Last Updated: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 | 7:34 PM CT
CBC News
Canada

A Yukon elder received a national literacy award Tuesday for her work in keeping
the Tlingit aboriginal language alive in the territory.

In a ceremony Tuesday morning in Whitehorse, Emma Sam received a Council of the
Federation Literacy Award from Yukon Education Minister Patrick Rouble, on
behalf of Premier Dennis Fentie.

"I feel really good to be able to speak my language, and I wanted to make sure
that it did not fade away," Sam told CBC News before Tuesday's ceremony.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:19:57 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:19:57 -0700
Subject: Maliseet language teachers are the students in this class (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.091957.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Maliseet language teachers are the students in this class

Published Wednesday September 9th, 2009
By Robert LaFrance

With the 2009-2010 school year now underway, the teachers of the Maliseet
language - both in Mah-Sos school in its temporary location and at SVHS - spent
a week in August brushing up on their own teaching skills and learning others
from a veteran in the field. Dorothy Lazore (Karchw?nhawe in Mohawk), a
resident of Quebec province who teaches the Mohawk language in a nearby Ontario
high school, was standing at the head of her class of six last week for an
intensive course in the teaching of Indian language.

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http://victoriastar.canadaeast.com/county/article/785551


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  9 16:24:40 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:24:40 -0700
Subject: NSU to offer Cherokee cultural bachelor=?utf-8?Q?=C2=92sdegree_?=
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.9.SEP.2009.092440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

NSU to offer Cherokee cultural bachelor?s degree

By The Associated Press
USA

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) ? State higher education regents on Sept. 3 approved a
proposal by Northeastern State University to offer a Bachelor of Arts degree
program in Cherokee cultural studies.

NSU is located in Tahlequah, which is home to the Cherokee Nation, one of the
largest American Indian tribes in the United States. The degree program will be
the second at NSU focused on Cherokee studies. The university already offers a
bachelor?s degree in Cherokee education.

Debbie Blanke, the regents? associate vice chancellor for academic affairs, said
other Oklahoma colleges offer courses, certificates or degrees in American
Indian studies but NSU is the only one to offer a bachelor?s degree in studies
concerning a specific tribe.

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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Wed Sep  9 18:10:45 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:10:45 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 14 18:00:07 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:00:07 -0700
Subject: Bilingual debate rages in NT (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.14.SEP.2009.110007.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Bilingual debate rages in NT

Posted Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:00pm AEST
Australia

Jerry Patrick Jangala was a young man in the late 1940s when he saw white men
for the first time.

They put him in a truck and took him from the Tanami Desert to what is now
called Lajamanu, a remote Aboriginal community about 900 kilometres south of
Darwin.

Mr Jangala is one of Lajamanu's last traditional elders, and his language,
Warlpiri, is one of only about 20 Aboriginal languages still spoken by
Indigenous children.

But that number could soon shrink even further.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:14:02 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:14:02 -0700
Subject: Sharing legendary lessons (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.101402.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sharing legendary lessons
Elisha Kilabuk strengthens Inuit oral tradition with stories and songs

Daron Letts
Northern News Services
Published Monday, Sept. 14, 2009

SOMBA K'E/YELLOWKNIFE - Taikkuaguuq is an Inuktitut word used to begin a
traditional Inuit legend.

"It means 'once there were'," explained Elisha Kilabuk. "It's like 'once upon a
time'. Most legends start like that."

The Iqaluit-born storyteller often uses the word to draw listeners into the
Inuit legends he presents at events organized through elementary schools, Inuit
organizations, the territorial government and the Nunavut teaching education
program at Nunavut Arctic College.

"For me, these stories are very important because most of them are not written,"
Kilabuk said. "Because these stories were passed down orally from generation to
generation I think it's important for us to learn them and know them. We're
losing our language. It's important to keep the Inuit legends in order to keep
the language preserved.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:20:03 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:20:03 -0700
Subject: Native languages find a pal in software (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.102003.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native languages find a pal in software

[audio podcast]

10:00 PM PDT on Monday, September 14, 2009
By LAUREN McSHERRY
Special to The Press-Enterprise
USA

For years, Ernest Siva, a Morongo tribal member who runs a Southern California
Native American educational and cultural center with his wife in Banning, has
been working to preserve the Serrano language.

Siva and his sister, Arlene Craft, are the only fluent Serrano speakers left in
the area.

Now, Siva has one more tool to help him do so.

On a recent day at the Dorothy Ramon Learning Center, Siva was introduced to a
new software program called Language Pal that is used to digitally record words
and phrases in Serrano.

Access full article below:
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_iphone15.2940bb6.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 15 17:34:40 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:34:40 -0700
Subject: With only 50 speakers left,
 tribe's language to be preserved by team of IU anthropologists
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.15.SEP.2009.103440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

With only 50 speakers left, tribe's language to be preserved by team of IU
anthropologists

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Sept. 15, 2009
USA

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- The National Endowment for the Humanities' "We the People"
project has awarded a group of Indiana University anthropologists $250,000 to
transcribe, translate and publish the oral literature of the Assiniboine, a
northern Plains Indian tribe with only about 50 living members still fluent in
the tribal language of Nakota.

Raymond DeMallie and Douglas Parks, anthropology professors in the IU College of
Arts and Sciences and co-directors of the American Indian Studies Research
Institute (AISRI), along with former IU anthropology doctoral student and AISRI
research associate Linda Cumberland, will publish two volumes of oral histories
collected from Assiniboine tribal members, some of which DeMallie recorded
during interviews conducted nearly 25 years ago. Also assisting will be native
Assiniboine scholar Tom Shawl of Fort Belknap Reservation in Montana. The team
also will publish a dictionary of the language.

Access full article below:
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/11854.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 17 19:28:06 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:28:06 -0700
Subject: Rupert schools consider teaching Haida,
 Nisga=?utf-8?Q?=C2=92alanguages_?= (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.17.SEP.2009.122806.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Rupert schools consider teaching Haida, Nisga?a languages

Written by George T. Baker
Prince Rupert Daily News
Tuesday, 15 September 2009
Canada

The Prince Rupert school board has been asked to begin teaching Haida in local
schools.

The request came before the summer hit and trustees broke off for vacation.
School District 52 answered it by having the district?s consultant, Dave
Stigant, work on a response plan to investigate the costs and benefits to
implementing a second aboriginal language-teaching program in Prince Rupert.

However, the challenge is how to accommodate such lessons without offending
another First Nation community that would like the school district to teach
their own language.

?I would be remiss if I didn?t mention that the Nisga?a [in Prince Rupert] have
already asked for many years without getting this kind of response,? said
trustee Russell Wiens.

Access full article below:
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/20090915213364/local/news/rupert-schools-consider-teaching-haida-nisga-146a-languages.html


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 16:39:23 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:39:23 -0700
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <1499502798.844151.1252519846009.JavaMail.root@vms244.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.093923.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Weytk Tammy,

This sounds very intersesting.  If you couldmail me the publisher file at

745 Ska-Hiish Dr
Chase, BC
V0E 1M3

That would be great thanks.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>
> I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> Affairs Native Language Program.? I have asked if I might post something to
> this list.
>
> Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for children
> about the importance of handwashing.? This book is an attempt to help
> prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.? Our Dakotah language
> version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>
> This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.? We create all of
> our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> and you may print as many copies as you like.? We would only ask that you
> leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders, our
> artist and our program would still be shown.
>
> If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> ready, please contact me.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 16:51:54 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:51:54 -0700
Subject: African Locales: for completion THIS MONTH
In-Reply-To: <34a796d00909082350n498123fane971d945b7505d85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.095154.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow that seem like a big undertaking.  I would love to help, but I
can't speak any African languages, although my brother hase a name
from Tanzania.  If there is any way a non-native speaker can help then
I'd be glad to.

Since these are XML files are these what are used to Localise
OpenOffice.org?  I have a local in OO.o and even have a project starte
(http://shs.openoffice.org), but that's as much of the work I've got
done.  I am working on finishing the spellchecking dictionary for
OpenOffice.org.

I would like to know if I could make use of the code that produces the
following pages.  I could use this when the time comes for North
American Indigenous Languages.

http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php
http://www.it46.se/afrigen/view.php



On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Martin Benjamin <martin at kamusi.org> wrote:
> The African Network for Localization (ANLoc) is seeking immediate help
> to create Locales for 100 African languages. You can view a
> description of the project at http://www.it46.se/afrigen
>
> You can help in one of three ways:
> -> volunteer to work on a locale yourself (the project will help you
> every step of the way!)
> -> play matchmaker - introduce someone who can volunteer for their language
> -> spread the word - pass along this message to your networks, so that
> we increase the chances of finding volunteers for many different
> languages
>
> THIS YEAR'S DEADLINE to get new languages into the CLDR (Common
> Locales Data Repository), the international system used to produce all
> major software on the planet, is OCTOBER 1. So, we need to connect
> with people who speak languages from all over Africa. ?And, we need to
> complete each locale THIS MONTH.
>
> The full list of languages currently in the project is at
> http://www.it46.se/afrigen/statistics.php . If your favorite language
> shows any red in any of the bars next to it, please volunteer to help
> complete the locale!
>
> It's easy to volunteer - just send an email to
> locales at africanlocalization.net
>
> The interface to build a locale in your favorite African language is
> available in English, French, and Swahili. Building a locale only
> takes a couple of hours. Please tell your friends, tell your
> colleagues, tell your networks!
>
> A quick, true story - one Friday last month, someone in Nairobi took a
> couple of minutes to provide an introduction between the Locales
> project and a colleague of theirs working on the Kreole Morisyen
> language of Mauritius. ?A few emails were exchanged, and by Monday the
> Morisyen locale was 90% finished. ?By the end of that week, the locale
> was complete. ?On October 1, this locale will be submitted to CLDR.
> By early next year, Morisyen will be forevermore part of the universe
> of languages available for information technology development.
>
> It just takes one person and a couple of hours to finish a locale for
> a language, but it takes a lot of villagers on the web to find that
> one person. ?Thanks in advance for volunteering, for introducing
> contacts, and/or for passing along this message!
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 17:08:01 2009
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:08:01 -0700
Subject: Dying languages archived for future generations (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <1c1f75a20908241244y17524df8l5bdf0bf7b5459302@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.100801.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow that's an interesting project.  Have you developed a spellcecking
dictionary for FireFox or OpenOffice.org.  It is quite trivial once
you have a wordlist.  I sent a link out earlier on the list, so you
odn't have to go searching it is right here

http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/spellcheckers
http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/firefox

Cheers.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Over the summer a student and I, both with no webpage design/creation
> background, created a "naive archive". The goal was to see what two
> motivated people could do without any prior web experience in terms of
> creating an archive from scratch and from legacy materials (dictionaries,
> stem lists, grammars, unpublished manuscripts). We used open source material
> (e.g. ubuntu and gimp) and proprietary software (e.g. windows and dream
> weaver)...we found we could do everything with the open source software with
> no trouble. We used the free online w3schools.com tutorials for everything
> we created. We spent six weeks and used HTML and Java script for almost
> everything. The most difficult part was creating a search mechanism for the
> dictionary, stem list, and affix list...this required knowledge of PHP which
> we learned at the w3schools.com site as well. The PHP was not necessary
> however because the web browser's own search mechanism seemed to worked.
>
> We ended up creating a searchable root dictionary from a microsoft word
> version of an original print dictionary, a searchable stem list from a 1938
> publication, and a searchable affix list from a 1939 grammar. The grammar
> was already archived by the Internet Archive so we linked each entry to the
> original source page online. We also included over 1,200 pages of
> unpublished manuscripts, a grammatical sketch, some information about
> various orthographies and some other things.
>
> In short, we managed to do a good deal in a short time. The only caveat is
> that we both had prior experience with programing languages so had a certain
> comfort with computers and confidence in our abilities...something that can
> make a big difference. You can view the site at
> http://academic.uprm.edu/~sbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html.
>
> We hope it might serve as an example of what can be done...without
> funding...though if any wants to give us some money to do more we'd be happy
> to take it.
>
> Shannon
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, phil cash cash<cashcash at email.arizona.edu>
> wrote:
>> Dying languages archived for future generations
>>
>> A Cambridge University project to safeguard the world's 6,000 spoken
>> languages
>> has been launched after it emerged half could die out within a generation.
>>
>> Published: 3:54PM BST 24 Aug 2009
>> UK
>>
>> The World Oral Literature Project aims to help cultures under threat from
>> globalisation create lasting records of their native languages.
>>
>> Still in its inaugural year, the project led by Cambridge University's
>> Museum of
>> Archaeology and Anthropology, has already handed out around 10 grants to
>> tribes
>> from Mongolia to Nigeria - and the researchers admitted traditional
>> British
>> languages such as Cornish and Gaelic are also at risk.
>>
>> Experts are encouraging native people and anthropologists to capture
>> myths, folk
>> songs chants and poems in their dying languages through multi-media tools.
>>
>> Access full article below:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6081874/Dying-languages-archived-for-future-generations.html
>>
>
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 18 17:20:23 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:20:23 -0700
Subject: Yakutia Hosts High-Profile Conference on Native Languages of the
 Indigenous Minorities (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.102023.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Yakutia Hosts High-Profile Conference on Native Languages of the Indigenous
Minorities

12:31, 18.09.2009 |
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&#1082;&#1088;&#1072;&#1081;

The reports of the Sakhalin delegation aroused much interest among participants
of the All-Russian Research and Practice Conference

YUZHNO-SAKHALINSK. September 18. VOSTOK-MEDIA ? The Republic of Sakha, Yakutia,
hosted the All-Russian Research and Practice Conference ?Native Languages of
the Indigenous Peoples of the Russian Federation within the Russian Educational
System?. The Sakhalin delegation took part in the conference.

According to the press-service office of the regional Administration, the
conference was attended by state officials from five foreign countries,
representatives of 15 regions of the Russian Federation, members of the UN
Department of Economic and Social Affairs as well as members of Assembly of the
First Nations, Regional Office North West Territories, The Council of the
Federation Committee on Northern Territories and Indigenous Minorities Issues,
Russian Association of Indigenous Peoples of the North, Siberia and Far East
(RAIPON) and many other organizations.

The participants in the high-profile forum discussed challenging issued relating
to the native languages of the indigenous minorities relying on the
international and domestic experience of preserving endangered ethnic cultures.

Access full article below:
http://vostokmedia.com/n55485.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 18 17:50:52 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:50:52 -0700
Subject: Guidelines For Teaching And Learning Samoan (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.105052.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Guidelines For Teaching And Learning Samoan

Friday, 18 September, 2009 - 21:05

Guidelines and a new multi-media resource for the teaching and learning of
Samoan were launched by the Minister of Pacific Island Affairs Georgina te
Heuheu in Auckland today.

Ta'iala mo le Gagana S&#257;moa: The Gagana S&#257;moa Guidelines provide a
framework for an additional language in early childhood services, primary and
secondary schools.

Mua &#332;! An Introduction to Gagana S&#257;moa is aimed at students in years
7-10 and it provides a range of entry-level resources for teachers and students
new to languages.

Access full article below:
http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/guidelines-teaching-and-learning-samoan/5/24605


From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 18 18:17:26 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:17:26 -0400
Subject: Dying languages archived for future generations (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <6838a1930909181008v28c8e130n8ae59683c86e932c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.SEP.2009.141726.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Neskie,

We're learning as we go...a spell checker would be great...I still need to
post the keyboard...it is all about time! I'm going to forward the info
about the spell checker to the tribe and see they have someone with the
time...meanwhile you've given me a new project...I'm thinking to include the
ACORN software in the site so folks can make lessons...any ideas and
suggestions always welcome!

cheers,
shannon

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Neskie Manuel <neskiem at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow that's an interesting project.  Have you developed a spellcecking
> dictionary for FireFox or OpenOffice.org.  It is quite trivial once
> you have a wordlist.  I sent a link out earlier on the list, so you
> odn't have to go searching it is right here
>
> http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/spellcheckers
> http://secpewt.sd73.bc.ca/firefox
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:44 PM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Over the summer a student and I, both with no webpage design/creation
> > background, created a "naive archive". The goal was to see what two
> > motivated people could do without any prior web experience in terms of
> > creating an archive from scratch and from legacy materials (dictionaries,
> > stem lists, grammars, unpublished manuscripts). We used open source
> material
> > (e.g. ubuntu and gimp) and proprietary software (e.g. windows and dream
> > weaver)...we found we could do everything with the open source software
> with
> > no trouble. We used the free online w3schools.com tutorials for
> everything
> > we created. We spent six weeks and used HTML and Java script for almost
> > everything. The most difficult part was creating a search mechanism for
> the
> > dictionary, stem list, and affix list...this required knowledge of PHP
> which
> > we learned at the w3schools.com site as well. The PHP was not necessary
> > however because the web browser's own search mechanism seemed to worked.
> >
> > We ended up creating a searchable root dictionary from a microsoft word
> > version of an original print dictionary, a searchable stem list from a
> 1938
> > publication, and a searchable affix list from a 1939 grammar. The grammar
> > was already archived by the Internet Archive so we linked each entry to
> the
> > original source page online. We also included over 1,200 pages of
> > unpublished manuscripts, a grammatical sketch, some information about
> > various orthographies and some other things.
> >
> > In short, we managed to do a good deal in a short time. The only caveat
> is
> > that we both had prior experience with programing languages so had a
> certain
> > comfort with computers and confidence in our abilities...something that
> can
> > make a big difference. You can view the site at
> > http://academic.uprm.edu/~sbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html<http://academic.uprm.edu/%7Esbischoff/crd_archive/start1.html>
> .
> >
> > We hope it might serve as an example of what can be done...without
> > funding...though if any wants to give us some money to do more we'd be
> happy
> > to take it.
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, phil cash cash<
> cashcash at email.arizona.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> Dying languages archived for future generations
> >>
> >> A Cambridge University project to safeguard the world's 6,000 spoken
> >> languages
> >> has been launched after it emerged half could die out within a
> generation.
> >>
> >> Published: 3:54PM BST 24 Aug 2009
> >> UK
> >>
> >> The World Oral Literature Project aims to help cultures under threat
> from
> >> globalisation create lasting records of their native languages.
> >>
> >> Still in its inaugural year, the project led by Cambridge University's
> >> Museum of
> >> Archaeology and Anthropology, has already handed out around 10 grants to
> >> tribes
> >> from Mongolia to Nigeria - and the researchers admitted traditional
> >> British
> >> languages such as Cornish and Gaelic are also at risk.
> >>
> >> Experts are encouraging native people and anthropologists to capture
> >> myths, folk
> >> songs chants and poems in their dying languages through multi-media
> tools.
> >>
> >> Access full article below:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/6081874/Dying-languages-archived-for-future-generations.html
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Sun Sep 20 02:56:28 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:56:28 -0400
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
Message-ID: <SAT.19.SEP.2009.225628.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/

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wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon


From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sun Sep 20 14:26:38 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:26:38 -0500
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
In-Reply-To: <4AB599DC.4060509@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.SEP.2009.092638.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Rolland for posting this,
I hope our own native people read it and post their thoughts on it.
I'm amazed at how insensitive people were by their responses on it so far.
It seems so many non-natives assume that any complaint coming from a tribal
nation
to the government must be basically all about money and greed.

Sohahiyoh
(Richard Zane Smith)



On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....
>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/
>
> -------
> wahjeh
> rolland nadjiwon
>
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Sun Sep 20 17:24:25 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:24:25 -0400
Subject: Body Bags Cont'd.
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909200726v1315583bybed65130f10528bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.SEP.2009.132425.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Megwetch Sohahiyoh...there is a lot of activity being generated in 
political circles and within the organizations, councils and 
communities. The government is trying a lot of different 'damage 
control' The media is not doing much since the original sensational 
blurbs...again...thanks for caring.

Many of our people are initially stunned by the incident...it is so 
surreal along with the explanations. I think this will not go away easy.

-------
wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon



Richard Zane Smith wrote:
> Thanks Rolland for posting this,
>
> I hope our own native people read it and post their thoughts on it.
> I'm amazed at how insensitive people were by their responses on it so far.
> It seems so many non-natives assume that any complaint coming from a 
> tribal nation
> to the government must be basically all about money and greed. 
>
> Sohahiyoh
> (Richard Zane Smith)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca 
> <mailto:mikinakn at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Great apology....O'...O'...O' Canada your home and Natives' land....
>
>     http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/native-leaders-reject-apology-for-body-bag-blunder/article1292295/
>
>     -------
>     wahjeh
>     rolland nadjiwon
>
>
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 12:28:34 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:28:34 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 12:47:37 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:47:37 -0400
Subject: indigenous language in the news
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.084737.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Some might find this of interest...it is great to see academic institutions
recognizing this type of work...


http://aprn.org/2009/09/17/kenai-professor-wins-university-award/


Kenai Professor Wins University Award

Thu, September 17, 2009
Posted in Alaska News <http://aprn.org/category/news/>

**A Kenai Peninsula College professor is the recipient of an annual award
from the University of Alaska Foundation.  Alan Boraas teaches anthropology
at the Kenai River Campus in Soldotna and was selected for the Edith R.
Bullock Prize for Excellence.
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 13:43:51 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:43:51 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <22613185.16233.1253536114913.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.084351.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

kweh Tammy, and all,
is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
to see if they can be helpful within our own community?

I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
Just finished an interactive board book
a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
worm."
if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!

Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
that can be run through the printer with any language.
I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.

richard


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:

> Neskie,
>
> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Weytk Tammy,
>
> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>
> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
> Chase, BC
> V0E 1M3
>
> That would be great thanks.
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
> >
> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something
> to
> > this list.
> >
> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> > some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
> children
> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
> language
> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
> >
> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
> of
> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that you
> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders,
> our
> > artist and our program would still be shown.
> >
> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> > ready, please contact me.
> >
> > Tammy DeCoteau
> > AAIA Native Language Program
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 13:49:36 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:49:36 -0400
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909210643md221f9en8337dc7eec1bbcac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.094936.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
Richard -
I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!

I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems to
me that
moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
so that
there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away from
the native language.

Opinions ?

Susan

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> kweh Tammy, and all,
> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>
> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
> Just finished an interactive board book
> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
> worm."
> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>
> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
> that can be run through the printer with any language.
> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>
> richard
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> Neskie,
>>
>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Weytk Tammy,
>>
>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>
>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>> Chase, BC
>> V0E 1M3
>>
>> That would be great thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>> >
>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something
>> to
>> > this list.
>> >
>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>> language,
>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>> languages.
>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>> children
>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>> language
>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>> >
>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
>> of
>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>> copier.
>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>> language
>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>> you
>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders,
>> our
>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>> >
>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>> > ready, please contact me.
>> >
>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neskie Manuel
>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>
>>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 15:25:25 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:25:25 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <39a679e20909210649v20af1803yc73f4918a5e32218@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.102525.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh Susan,
personnally
I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)

if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
illustrations.

here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:M?' , my worm book.

ske:noh
Richard



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
> Richard -
> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>
> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
> to me that
> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
> so that
> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
> from the native language.
>
> Opinions ?
>
> Susan
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>
>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>> Just finished an interactive board book
>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the
>> worm."
>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>
>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>
>> richard
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Neskie,
>>>
>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>
>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>
>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>
>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>>
>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>> Chase, BC
>>> V0E 1M3
>>>
>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>> >
>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>> something to
>>> > this list.
>>> >
>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>> language,
>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>> languages.
>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>> children
>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>> language
>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>> >
>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all
>>> of
>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>> copier.
>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>> language
>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>> you
>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>> Elders, our
>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>> >
>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>> >
>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neskie Manuel
>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 15:39:59 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:39:59 -0400
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec80909210825j2f435a1cucd0277d3ee57702e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.113959.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks!  Great pictures!  Where can I get a copy of the 'Worm' book ?
S.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> Kweh Susan,
> personnally
> I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
> ( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)
>
> if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
> its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
> illustrations.
>
> here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:M?' , my worm book.
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
>> Richard -
>> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>>
>> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
>> to me that
>> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I work
>> so that
>> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
>> from the native language.
>>
>> Opinions ?
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>   On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>>
>>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>>
>>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>>> Just finished an interactive board book
>>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be
>>> the worm."
>>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>>
>>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky
>>> sheets
>>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>>
>>> richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Neskie,
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>>
>>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>>
>>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at
>>>>
>>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>>> Chase, BC
>>>> V0E 1M3
>>>>
>>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>>> >
>>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>>> something to
>>>> > this list.
>>>> >
>>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>>> language,
>>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>>> languages.
>>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>>> children
>>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>>> language
>>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
>>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>>> >
>>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by
>>>> a
>>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create
>>>> all of
>>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>>> copier.
>>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>>> language
>>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>>> you
>>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>>> Elders, our
>>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
>>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>>> >
>>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neskie Manuel
>>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> **********************************************************************************************
>> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>>
>>
>> Department of English (Primary)
>> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
>> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
>> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>> The Southwest Center
>> University of Arizona,
>> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:25:46 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:25:46 -0500
Subject: Wendat(Huron) Confederacy Language Symposium
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.112546.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh all,
Wyandot(te) of USA and Wendat of Quebec,and specially involved linguists
will be gathering this next weekend for an important Language
Symposium,"Yawenda"
A Wendat Language Training Workshop in Wendake,on the Wendat Reserve in
Quebec
to discuss the revitalization of our once dormant
languages,standardization,and teaching methods.
It is the first of its kind for us.We have high hopes and many ideas to
discuss and debate.
Once scattered to the four directions the Wendat/Wyandot regroup to honor
our ancient Confederation.

We now have several Wendat students gaining their Masters in Wendat
Linguistics
and one now gaining a doctorate in Wendat/Wyandot languages.
Its a difficult,emotional and sometimes painful process,like pressing
paddles to jump start
a heart that once stopped beating, and yet we know we are the living link
bridging our ancestors
into the lives of our childrens future. We join in solidarity with all
indigenous peoples who
know the value of these efforts will keep us from disappearing completely
into the black hole
of modernity and forget who we are, and how to see the world around us.

we value your support,and your prayers for these important
efforts....tizham?h (thanks)

sk?:noh (peace.well-being)
Sohahiyoh
(Richard Zane Smith)
Wyandotte Oklahoma
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:38:54 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:38:54 -0500
Subject: handwashing book for children
In-Reply-To: <39a679e20909210839p63fcd4b8p7c69ecc3f6cf87b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.113854.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh Susan!

wonderful!
the Wyandotte Nation Culture dept. will receive orders for them.
at this point each book is hand-assembled.
( and i'm still having to punch the finger holes with a leather punch!)

please call  1-918-678-2297  ext. 244 (ask for Sherri)
or email Sherri Clemons <sclemons at wyandotte-nation.org>

or write:
Culture Dept.
64700 E.HWY 60
Wyandotte Nation
Wyandotte Oklahoma 74370

tizham?h
Richard




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Susan Penfield
<susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks!  Great pictures!  Where can I get a copy of the 'Worm' book ?
> S.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> Kweh Susan,
>> personnally
>> I think english sub-tiles can be distracting .
>> ( if its necessary, any english I put on the last pages)
>>
>> if illustrated well, a book should almost tell the story by pictures.
>> its closer to immersion when the reading actually illuminates the
>> illustrations.
>>
>> here are a couple silly pics of  TSI:'NO:M?' , my worm book.
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It is good for all of us to here about this work -- from both Tammy and
>>> Richard -
>>> I'm sure 'being a worm' is a real attraction for children!
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear from others about the use of English sub-titles -- Seems
>>> to me that
>>> moving away from that is the biggest trend in the commumities where I
>>> work so that
>>> there is no appeal to the use of English at all and no distraction away
>>> from the native language.
>>>
>>> Opinions ?
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>>   On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> kweh Tammy, and all,
>>>> is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
>>>> to see if they can be helpful within our own community?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
>>>> Just finished an interactive board book
>>>> a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
>>>> there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be
>>>> the worm."
>>>> if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!
>>>>
>>>> Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
>>>> or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
>>>> Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky
>>>> sheets
>>>> that can be run through the printer with any language.
>>>> I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.
>>>>
>>>> richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Neskie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2009, *Neskie Manuel* <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Weytk Tammy,
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file
>>>>> at
>>>>>
>>>>> 745 Ska-Hiish Dr
>>>>> Chase, BC
>>>>> V0E 1M3
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be great thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
>>>>> > Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post
>>>>> something to
>>>>> > this list.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah
>>>>> language,
>>>>> > some of which are currently being translated into other native
>>>>> languages.
>>>>> > The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for
>>>>> children
>>>>> > about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
>>>>> > prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah
>>>>> language
>>>>> > version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as
>>>>> our
>>>>> > Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by
>>>>> a
>>>>> > local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create
>>>>> all of
>>>>> > our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color
>>>>> copier.
>>>>> > We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native
>>>>> language
>>>>> > and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that
>>>>> you
>>>>> > leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured
>>>>> Elders, our
>>>>> > artist and our program would still be shown.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it
>>>>> is
>>>>> > ready, please contact me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> > AAIA Native Language Program
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Neskie Manuel
>>>>> Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
>>>>> http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
>>>>> Ph: (866) 423-0911
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> **********************************************************************************************
>>> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>>> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>>> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>>> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>>>
>>>
>>> Department of English (Primary)
>>> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
>>> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
>>> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>>> The Southwest Center
>>> University of Arizona,
>>> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 16:52:18 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:52:18 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
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From manuela_noske at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 16:56:59 2009
From: manuela_noske at HOTMAIL.COM (Manuela Noske)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:56:59 -0700
Subject: handwashing book for children
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Hi Richard,

the Indigenous Language Institute (ILI) teaches a workshop on how to create Native Language print materials (including children's booklets) using Publisher.  A number of example books are available on ILI's website here: http://www.ilinative.org/share/repository.html.  More info on the workshops is available here: http://www.ilinative.org/workshops/. 

 

Best,

Manuela



Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:43:51 -0500
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET
Subject: Re: [ILAT] handwashing book for children
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

kweh Tammy, and all,


is there a place where we can see some of the 80 some books
to see if they can be helpful within our own community?


I'm currently writing and illustrating a few books for children
Just finished an interactive board book  
a story about a worm and his adventure with birds.
there are holes punched in so children can use their own finger to "be the worm."

if they paint a little face on their finger - all the better!


Some of these are "cross-cultural" and could be used with any language
or printed without words at all for the story teller to ad-lib.
Wyandotte Nation has be been ordering blank board books with sticky sheets
that can be run through the printer with any language.
I have many ideas but its all volunteer work and takes mega-time.


richard




On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:

Neskie,

Yes. I will send it out today as it is ready.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program


On Sep 18, 2009, Neskie Manuel <neskiem at GMAIL.COM> wrote: 


Weytk Tammy,

This sounds very intersesting. If you couldmail me the publisher file at

745 Ska-Hiish Dr
Chase, BC
V0E 1M3

That would be great thanks.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han mitakuyapi (Hello, my relatives)
>
> I am Tammy DeCoteau and I work for the Association on American Indian
> Affairs Native Language Program.  I have asked if I might post something to
> this list.
>
> Our program has created over 80 children's books in the Dakotah language,
> some of which are currently being translated into other native languages.
> The reason for this post is that we recently completed a book for children
> about the importance of handwashing.  This book is an attempt to help
> prevent the spread of H1N1 in our native communities.  Our Dakotah language
> version of the book -- which we subtitled in Engilsh -- as well as our
> Lakotah language version will include a CD of a handwashing song.
>
> This book is currently being illustrated (as all of our books are) by a
> local artist and we hope to have it ready to print soon.  We create all of
> our books on Microsoft Publisher and print all of them on a color copier.
> We would offer this book to anyone to translate into your native language
> and you may print as many copies as you like.  We would only ask that you
> leave the credits information on the cover so that our Treasured Elders, our
> artist and our program would still be shown.
>
> If you would like to have this publisher file mailed to you when it is
> ready, please contact me.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program



-- 
Neskie Manuel
Secwepemc Radio 91.1 FM
http://secwepemcradio.ath.cx
Ph: (866) 423-0911

 		 	   		  
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From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 17:07:56 2009
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:07:56 -0700
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <347146.23892.1253551938952.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.100756.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
teaching.  I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their notes
& not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.

I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers of
ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to avoid
further attrition of our language.

Just contributing my comments.....

Bernadette A. SantaMaria
Language/Cultura Consultant
White Mountain Apache Tribe



On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>wrote:

> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> I have been following the book discussions going on.  Two very important
> things have been brought up.
>
> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>
> This is something that our program has struggled with.  Initially, we were
> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
> The problem was everything was in English.  And then another problem was
> that most of the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>
> This was when we started creating our own materials.  First we tried
> handwriting the Dakotah.  What happened was that the English looked all nice
> and the Dakotah looked second-class.  So then we tried printing the Dakotah
> on stickers.  That didn't look so great either.  So eventually we decided to
> create our own.
>
> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.  On the
> reservation where we are located, we are fortunate (by many standards) to
> have around 100 speakers.  But of those, even less ever learned to read in
> Dakotah.  However, we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking elders
> and have determined that the average age of those speakers is 76.
>
> The next generation, in their 40's or 50's has only a handful of speakers.
> And the young parents of today, still another generation away, has no
> speakers.  So these young parents, and the grandparents of our children are
> not speakers.  So they can neither speak nor read in Dakotah.  We have had
> some of our books narrated and tell parents these cds are for them to learn
> to read to their children.  But because of all of this, we did subtitle.
>
> I think subtitling would depend on whether you are an immersion program --
> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
> book.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:07:19 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:07:19 -0700
Subject: Many Tongues One Voice (fwd)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.130719.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sunday 20 September 2009, 1:30pm ABC1
Australia

Many Tongues One Voice

Watch Video Download Video: wmv | mp4

In the first years of settlement in Australia there were more than 250 recorded
Indigenous languages. In just 220 years that figure has dropped dramatically
and only nine languages are considered safe with 20 to 30 languages at various
levels of endangerment. This story looks at how communities are retrieving
their dormant languages from historic books and journals and early film and
audio recordings and maintaining those languages through promoting and teaching
not only Aboriginal youth but all Australians.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/messagestick/stories/s2690210.htm


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:11:10 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:11:10 -0700
Subject: Speaker of rare language loved golf (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.131110.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Speaker of rare language loved golf

Served in the Second World War as a pilot, soon after becoming flying instructor

BY SUSAN LAZARUK, THE PROVINCE SEPTEMBER 20, 2009
British Columbia, CA

FRED SHAUGHNESSY: 1919-2009

Fred Shaughnessy, one of the last remaining estimated 200 speakers of the native
language Kwak'wala on Vancouver Island, has died at age 90.

Shaughnessy, who learned to speak Kwak'wala in Alert Bay on Cormorant Island
east of Port McNeil on Vancouver Island where he was raised, retained it over
the years even as he lived off-reserve.

"He wasn't taught any English when he was a child," said cousin George
Shaughnessy, chief of Wakeman Sound.

Fred Shaughnessy had an excellent command of the language, which is spoken by
only four per cent of the Kwakwaka'wakw, or speakers of Kwak'wala, and none are
under age 35. He was one of the few speakers who still knew the historic
pronunciation.

Access full article below:
http://www.theprovince.com/life/Speaker+rare+language+loved+golf/2013511/story.html


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 19:50:41 2009
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:50:41 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <da1ce9040909211007o2c543758k4432341c8be4fbd4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.145041.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,

I really appreciate this thread!
I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
this very issue.  I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
Elder reading/telling the story....  Any other ideas?

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
Heather


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
<bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
> I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
> taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
> teaching.? I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
> words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
> concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their notes
> & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>
> I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
> immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
> our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
> speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers of
> ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
> higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
> Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
> conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to avoid
> further attrition of our language.
>
> Just contributing my comments.....
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> Language/Cultura Consultant
> White Mountain Apache Tribe
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>
>> I have been following the book discussions going on.? Two very important
>> things have been brought up.
>>
>> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>
>> This is something that our program has struggled with.? Initially, we were
>> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
>> The problem was everything was in English.? And then another problem was
>> that most of?the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>
>> This was when we started creating our own materials.? First we tried
>> handwriting the?Dakotah.??What happened was that the English looked all nice
>> and the Dakotah looked second-class.? So?then we tried printing the Dakotah
>> on stickers.? That didn't look so?great either.? So eventually we decided to
>> create our own.
>>
>> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.??On the
>> reservation where we are located,?we are fortunate (by many standards) to
>> have around 100 speakers.? But of those, even less?ever learned to read?in
>> Dakotah.??However,?we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking elders
>> and have determined that the average age of?those speakers is 76.
>>
>> The next generation, in their 40's or?50's has?only a handful of
>> speakers.? And the young parents of today, still another generation away,
>> has no speakers.? So these?young parents, and the grandparents of our
>> children are not speakers.? So they can neither speak nor read in
>> Dakotah.??We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these cds
>> are for them to learn to?read to their children.? But because of all of
>> this, we did subtitle.
>>
>> I think subtitling?would depend on whether you are an immersion program --
>> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>> book.
>>
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 21 20:13:51 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:13:51 -0700
Subject: The need to keep languages alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.131351.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

GLOBAL VOICES

The need to keep languages alive

Sep 21, 2009 04:30 AM
CRAIG AND MARC KIELBURGER

Marie Smith Jones possessed more than the wisdom of her 89 years. She held the
knowledge of an entire culture.

Life in the small village of Cordova, Alaska hadn?t exactly been easy. Jones
married a fisherman and with him raised nine children. She survived influenza
and smallpox. She even beat alcoholism.

In her eighties, it was clear through Jones? white hair and wrinkled face that
her wisdom was more valuable than any estate. When she died in her sleep in
January 2008 at the age of 89, her greatest possession ? her culture and her
language ? nearly died with her.

Marie Smith Jones was the last speaker of the Eyak language. Having never taught
it to her children, her native tongue now faced extinction.

?When the last speaker dies, the language is gone leaving no trace behind,? says
Luisa Maffi, director of Terralingua, an organization supporting biological,
cultural and linguistic diversity. ?That?s why we need to maintain and
strengthen them, rather than waiting to the brink.?

Access full article below:
http://www.thestar.com/news/globalvoices/article/698453


From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Mon Sep 21 20:43:06 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:06 -0500
Subject: the book discussion
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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 21:19:42 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.141942.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

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From mjohnson at WSTRIBES.ORG  Mon Sep 21 21:19:24 2009
From: mjohnson at WSTRIBES.ORG (Myra Johnson)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:24 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000001ca3b01$3c367b50$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.141924.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq'u people.  There may be
some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.  

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 21:57:17 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:57:17 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <001201ca3b01$31ca7b80$0440420a@ctwsdom.pri>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.145717.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.

Ted

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq'u people.  There may be
some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.  

 

  _____  

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

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From lamanyana at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 22:17:32 2009
From: lamanyana at GMAIL.COM (Michael Braun Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:17:32 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000301ca3b06$7cf51700$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.151732.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My wife is peripherally involved w/ the Confederated Tribes of the
Grand Ronde's Chinook language program - I'll pass this on and see if
they're interested

-Michael

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ted Moomaw
<ted.moomaw at colvilletribes.com> wrote:
> I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
> Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq?u people.? There may be
> some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
>
> I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
>
> Ted


From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Mon Sep 21 22:46:28 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:28 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <3fb565f10909211517k5a49fc07qe600369312bec75b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.154628.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

You could have her give me a call tomorrow at 509 422-7406, or anyone else
that may be able to utilize a  dict.  of Chinook jargon.
Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Michael Braun Hamilton
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:18 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

My wife is peripherally involved w/ the Confederated Tribes of the
Grand Ronde's Chinook language program - I'll pass this on and see if
they're interested

-Michael

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ted Moomaw
<ted.moomaw at colvilletribes.com> wrote:
> I recieved a phone call from a man who has an old dictionary of chinook
> Jargon, he is looking for someone who could use it.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Myra Johnson
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:19 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> We are working with the Kiksht language of the Wasq?u people.? There may
be
> some similar words as the Chinook Jargon trade language.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ted Moomaw
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
>
> I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
>
> Ted


From hardman at UFL.EDU  Mon Sep 21 23:37:57 2009
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:37:57 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <7507449.30338.1253565787008.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.193757.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

In our Aymara course we only give the translation if asked (with a click),
and then we also give the grammatical structure, again when asked (with a
click).  http://aymara.ufl.edu/.  I began doing this in books years ago,
giving the same story with and without, in this case, Spanish, glosses,
labeling it the ?teacher?s version?, e.g., a vocabulary listing, the story,
the story with sentence gosses, then the story in Spanish then the story
again in Spanish.  This was for publishing without the fancy stuff we have
today (think 30-~40 years ago).  We are now planning to follow the Aymara
with Jaqaru and Kawki in the same way.  I do love the varieties of ways of
handling the problem that you-all are giving.

MJ
Dr. MJ Hardman
Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Per?
website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/



On 9/21/09 4:43 PM, "Tammy DeCoteau" <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET> wrote:

> Heather,
> 
> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.? Too
> much gluing and cutting and then binding.? But then a person could actually
> print two books, one with English and one without.
> 
> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to use
> for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder on
> the inside of the front cover.? It took awhile but we even figured out how to
> insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.? Because we do so
> many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.)?
> 
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
>> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>> 
>> I really appreciate this thread!
>> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
>> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
>> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
>> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
>> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>> 
>> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
>> Heather
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
>> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>>> > I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>>> > taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>>> > teaching.? I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>>> > words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>>> > concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>>> notes
>>> > & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>> >
>>> > I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
>>> > immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>>> > our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>>> > speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>>> of
>>> > ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
>>> > higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>>> > Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>>> > conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>>> avoid
>>> > further attrition of our language.
>>> >
>>> > Just contributing my comments.....
>>> >
>>> > Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>>> > Language/Cultura Consultant
>>> > White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have been following the book discussions going on.? Two very important
>>>> >> things have been brought up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This is something that our program has struggled with.? Initially, we
>>>> were
>>>> >> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal
>>>> college.
>>>> >> The problem was everything was in English.? And then another problem was
>>>> >> that most of?the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This was when we started creating our own materials.? First we tried
>>>> >> handwriting the?Dakotah.??What happened was that the English looked all
>>>> nice
>>>> >> and the Dakotah looked second-class.? So?then we tried printing the
>>>> Dakotah
>>>> >> on stickers.? That didn't look so?great either.? So eventually we
>>>> decided to
>>>> >> create our own.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.??On
>>>> the
>>>> >> reservation where we are located,?we are fortunate (by many standards)
to
>>>> >> have around 100 speakers.? But of those, even less?ever learned to
>>>> read?in
>>>> >> Dakotah.??However,?we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>>> elders
>>>> >> and have determined that the average age of?those speakers is 76.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The next generation, in their 40's or?50's has?only a handful of
>>>> >> speakers.? And the young parents of today, still another generation
>>>> away,
>>>> >> has no speakers.? So these?young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>>> >> children are not speakers.? So they can neither speak nor read in
>>>> >> Dakotah.??We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>>> cds
>>>> >> are for them to learn to?read to their children.? But because of all of
>>>> >> this, we did subtitle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think subtitling?would depend on whether you are an immersion program
--
>>>> >> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>>>> >> book.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>> >> AAIA Native Language Program
>>> >
> 

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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 21 23:33:43 2009
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:33:43 -0600
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <7507449.30338.1253565787008.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.173343.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kihchi-marsii por ton niimeel!  Thanks for your email.

Hmmm....

Maybe, we could just print the English on the back page with the
corresponding page numbers...?  (I am thinking as I write....)  That
would mean we wouldn't have to print two books....  Or we could bind a
copy of the book with just Michif and a copy with Michif and English
back to back  as I have seen with English/French pamphlets here in
Canada....

Eekoshi.
Heather

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Heather,
>
> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.
> Too much gluing and cutting and then binding.? But then a person could
> actually print two books, one with English and one without.
>
> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to
> use for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder
> on the inside of the front cover.? It took awhile but we even figured out
> how to insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.? Because we
> do so many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.)
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program
>
> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>
> I really appreciate this thread!
> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
> Heather
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>> I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>> taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>> teaching.? I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>> words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>> concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>> notes
>> & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>
>> I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used only
>> immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>> our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>> speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>> of
>> ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have a
>> higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>> Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>> conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>> avoid
>> further attrition of our language.
>>
>> Just contributing my comments.....
>>
>> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>> Language/Cultura Consultant
>> White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>
>>> I have been following the book discussions going on.? Two very important
>>> things have been brought up.
>>>
>>> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>
>>> This is something that our program has struggled with.? Initially, we
>>> were
>>> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal college.
>>> The problem was everything was in English.? And then another problem was
>>> that most of?the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>
>>> This was when we started creating our own materials.? First we tried
>>> handwriting the?Dakotah.??What happened was that the English looked all
>>> nice
>>> and the Dakotah looked second-class.? So?then we tried printing the
>>> Dakotah
>>> on stickers.? That didn't look so?great either.? So eventually we decided
>>> to
>>> create our own.
>>>
>>> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.??On the
>>> reservation where we are located,?we are fortunate (by many standards) to
>>> have around 100 speakers.? But of those, even less?ever learned to
>>> read?in
>>> Dakotah.??However,?we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>> elders
>>> and have determined that the average age of?those speakers is 76.
>>>
>>> The next generation, in their 40's or?50's has?only a handful of
>>> speakers.? And the young parents of today, still another generation away,
>>> has no speakers.? So these?young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>> children are not speakers.? So they can neither speak nor read in
>>> Dakotah.??We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>> cds
>>> are for them to learn to?read to their children.? But because of all of
>>> this, we did subtitle.
>>>
>>> I think subtitling?would depend on whether you are an immersion program
>>> --
>>> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read the
>>> book.
>>>
>>> Tammy DeCoteau
>>> AAIA Native Language Program
>>
>


From hardman at UFL.EDU  Mon Sep 21 23:45:17 2009
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:45:17 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <C6DD8695.11255%hardman@ufl.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.194517.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ooops.  This is the correct version.

On 9/21/09 7:37 PM, "Dr. Hardman" <hardman at ufl.edu> wrote:

> In our Aymara course we only give the translation if asked (with a click), and
> then we also give the grammatical structure, again when asked (with a click).
> http://aymara.ufl.edu/.  I began doing this in books years ago, giving the
> same story with and without, in this case, Spanish, glosses, labeling it the
> ?teacher?s version?, e.g., a vocabulary listing, the story, the story with
> sentence gosses, then the story in Spanish then the story again in Jaqaru,
> alone.  This was for publishing without the fancy stuff we have today (think
> 30-~40 years ago).  We are now planning to follow the Aymara with Jaqaru and
> Kawki in the same way.  I do love the varieties of ways of handling the
> problem that you-all are giving.
> 
> MJ
> Dr. MJ Hardman
> Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Per?
> website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/21/09 4:43 PM, "Tammy DeCoteau" <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET> wrote:
> 
>> Heather,
>> 
>> We did a book about community workers (Who am I?) where you give clues and
>> then lift the little cardboard to see the name of the worker and it was so
>> labor intensive that we eventually just put the answer on the next page.? Too
>> much gluing and cutting and then binding.? But then a person could actually
>> print two books, one with English and one without.
>> 
>> We did our own recording using a free program - Audacity - it was easy to use
>> for a novice and then we burn the cds and put a plastic sticky cd holder on
>> the inside of the front cover.? It took awhile but we even figured out how to
>> insert a little chime so you know when to turn the page.? Because we do so
>> many, we bought a cd/dvd printer (which can make 100 at a time.)?
>> 
>> Tammy DeCoteau
>> AAIA Native Language Program
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2009, Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>>> Taanshi kiiyawaw, hello all,
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate this thread!
>>> I am working on a book in Michif with an Elder and was thinking about
>>> this very issue. I am thinking bout doing subtitling but binding a
>>> thin cardboard or plastic strip(s?) between pages so that this (these)
>>> can be used to "hide" the English and also having a recording of our
>>> Elder reading/telling the story.... Any other ideas?
>>> 
>>> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is it for now.
>>> Heather
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bernadette Santamaria
>>> <bernisantamaria at gmail.> wrote:
>>>> > I agree with T. DeCoteau's assessment on whether to use subtitles--I've
>>>> > taught Apache at the university level--English subtitles "interfere" with
>>>> > teaching.? I found that students depend on them instead of learning the
>>>> > words on their own with my oral-only presentations in class. They would
>>>> > concentrate instead, on writing the word in Apache & English for their
>>>> notes
>>>> > & not be concentration on listening or pronouncing.
>>>> >
>>>> > I switched to not writing the words on the board or anything but used
>>>> only
>>>> > immersion methods and got better results at end of semester. One thing in
>>>> > our favor for Apache students from our tribe is that they still have
>>>> > speakers all around them at various domains at our reservation--speakers
>>>> of
>>>> > ages 40 and over. Those under that age are less fluent but still do have
a
>>>> > higher percentage of fluent speakers among younger people than other
>>>> > Indigenous groups, even some children but we know that we need to be
>>>> > conducting language maintenance and revitalization programming too to
>>>> avoid
>>>> > further attrition of our language.
>>>> >
>>>> > Just contributing my comments.....
>>>> >
>>>> > Bernadette A. SantaMaria
>>>> > Language/Cultura Consultant
>>>> > White Mountain Apache Tribe
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Han Mitakuyapi,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have been following the book discussions going on.? Two very
>>>>> important
>>>>> >> things have been brought up.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> To subtitle or not to subtitle.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This is something that our program has struggled with.? Initially, we
>>>>> were
>>>>> >> attempting an immersion program in a daycare at the local tribal
>>>>> college.
>>>>> >> The problem was everything was in English.? And then another problem
>>>>> was
>>>>> >> that most of?the people in the videos and books were non-Indian.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This was when we started creating our own materials.? First we tried
>>>>> >> handwriting the?Dakotah.??What happened was that the English looked all
>>>>> nice
>>>>> >> and the Dakotah looked second-class.? So?then we tried printing the
>>>>> Dakotah
>>>>> >> on stickers.? That didn't look so?great either.? So eventually we
>>>>> decided to
>>>>> >> create our own.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It was then, that the discussion on whether to subtitle was held.??On
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> reservation where we are located,?we are fortunate (by many standards)
to
>>>>> >> have around 100 speakers.? But of those, even less?ever learned to
>>>>> read?in
>>>>> >> Dakotah.??However,?we have the date of birth of 54 of those speaking
>>>>> elders
>>>>> >> and have determined that the average age of?those speakers is 76.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The next generation, in their 40's or?50's has?only a handful of
>>>>> >> speakers.? And the young parents of today, still another generation
>>>>> away,
>>>>> >> has no speakers.? So these?young parents, and the grandparents of our
>>>>> >> children are not speakers.? So they can neither speak nor read in
>>>>> >> Dakotah.??We have had some of our books narrated and tell parents these
>>>>> cds
>>>>> >> are for them to learn to?read to their children.? But because of all of
>>>>> >> this, we did subtitle.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think subtitling?would depend on whether you are an immersion program
--
>>>>> >> then absolutely no English -- and whether your population could read
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> book.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Tammy DeCoteau
>>>>> >> AAIA Native Language Program
>>>> >
>> 
> 

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From johndillinger43 at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 03:17:27 2009
From: johndillinger43 at HOTMAIL.COM (Ryan Denzer-King)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:17:27 -0600
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <000001ca3b01$3c367b50$335e640a@colvilletribes.gov>
Message-ID: <MON.21.SEP.2009.211727.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>


Hello Ted,

 

I don't work on Chinook specifically, but I am working on some projects on the Plateau linguistic area, of which Chinook is a part.  I would certainly be interested in any resources you have to share.

 

Ryan Denzer-King
 


Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU





Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?
I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.
Ted 		 	   		  
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Tue Sep 22 07:10:03 2009
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:10:03 -0400
Subject: Many Tongues One Voice (fwd)
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Thanks for the site Phil...

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wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon



phil cash cash wrote:
> Sunday 20 September 2009, 1:30pm ABC1
> Australia
>
> Many Tongues One Voice
>
> Watch Video Download Video: wmv | mp4
>
> In the first years of settlement in Australia there were more than 250 recorded
> Indigenous languages. In just 220 years that figure has dropped dramatically
> and only nine languages are considered safe with 20 to 30 languages at various
> levels of endangerment. This story looks at how communities are retrieving
> their dormant languages from historic books and journals and early film and
> audio recordings and maintaining those languages through promoting and teaching
> not only Aboriginal youth but all Australians.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.abc.net.au/tv/messagestick/stories/s2690210.htm
>
>   


From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Sep 22 12:33:28 2009
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:33:28 -0500
Subject: chinook language
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Tue Sep 22 14:25:01 2009
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:25:01 -0700
Subject: chinook language
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Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.072501.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

Dai s'la,

In the same boat here for a long time with Milluk materials.  I wanted to have my own copy of Coos Texts by Frachtenberg, but unless I borrowed it through two libraries from the Univ. of Michigan or somewhere else, I was out of luck.  Enter Google Books.  I know have my own copy in PDF .  Amazing.  http://books.google.com/books?id=g9NYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Coos+texts+Frachtenberg&ei=ANu4Sqq3CYHENbeviNkP#v=onepage&q=&f=false   I know some of you are a bit worried/scared about Google and copyright, as am I as an author, but... for indigenous language research on old out of copyright books, it's been a godsend.  I now have most every hard-to-get book I've ever encountered in my bibliographic research on Kusan languages and beyond.  All free.  All downloadable, etc.  (No, I do not work or get sponsored by Google to say any of this... after you see the results below, you'll know why I'm telling you this)

My bet is that the Chinook resource in question may already be available online.  Looking up Chinook dictionaries, I found the following:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rhsOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA5&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=edq4SuHgD4WQNoWDrLYP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=03sZAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=o9u4Suj6F5SCNrOj2MIP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=-UMSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+texts&ei=wtu4SqHbCJ2sNZ6B8dsP#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Looking for Dakota language resources (including the bible text you already own):

http://books.google.com/books?id=vXhEGl6k4cEC&pg=PP14&dq="dakota+language"+riggs&lr=&ei=2Ny4SuSSFYmGNpy_0N0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20language%22%20riggs&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=mqoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&dq="dakota+wowapi+wakan"+riggs&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=m924SqPKMIi0NvTvsM0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20wowapi%20wakan%22%20riggs&f=false

If some of you don't know about this resource, you must.  

Tsu tsi wes,

Troy




________________________________
From: Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33:28 AM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook language

Han Mitakuyapi,

Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this listserv, can use it.

I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in the Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing the first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is amazing how much language is in the bible.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 
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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Tue Sep 22 15:41:08 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:41:08 -0700
Subject: chinook language
In-Reply-To: <435895167.17061.1253622808513.JavaMail.root@vms246.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.084108.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

That would be awesome,   I also would like access to the resource but felt
someone else would have more benefit that was working specifically with
Chinook.

 

If anyone knows how to get this done would you let me know.

 

Ted

 

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Tammy DeCoteau
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] chinook language

 

Han Mitakuyapi,

Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the
dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this listserv,
can use it.

I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in the
Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing the
first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is amazing how
much language is in the bible.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 

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From ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM  Tue Sep 22 15:48:41 2009
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM (Ted Moomaw)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:48:41 -0700
Subject: chinook Lang.
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W333D0FA44CDBFE56215B4AB1DC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.084841.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I work with nsvlxcin (okanogan lang.),  which language of the Plateau are
you working with? (out of interest) 

 

Chinook was used here also as a trade and universal lang.,  it seems
everyone around the NW had used to some extent.  

 

Ted

 

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From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
On Behalf Of Ryan Denzer-King
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:17 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] chinook Lang.

 

Hello Ted,
 
I don't work on Chinook specifically, but I am working on some projects on
the Plateau linguistic area, of which Chinook is a part.  I would certainly
be interested in any resources you have to share.
 
Ryan Denzer-King
 

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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:19:42 -0700
From: ted.moomaw at COLVILLETRIBES.COM
Subject: [ILAT] chinook Lang.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Is there anyone here working with the Chinook Language?

I have been made aware of a resource that may be of interest.

Ted

 

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 22 20:44:21 2009
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:44:21 -0700
Subject: brief update...
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.134421.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

?eh??, ???nim himy??me ka? lil?wtiwa?ma,
(greetings, friends!)
I will be on travel for the next 8-10 days so my news postings will stop until
I return to my ILAT news central headquarters desk.? ;-p? Feel free to offer
any news items that may be of interest.? Please carry on with your very
interesting & timely discussions....
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From mccreery at UVIC.CA  Tue Sep 22 20:38:36 2009
From: mccreery at UVIC.CA (Dale McCreery)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:38:36 -0700
Subject: chinook language
In-Reply-To: <612998.58197.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.133836.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kiyawaaw

I don't know about the chinook language so much, but as far as I can tell
every dictionary ever made of chinook jargon is online, and usually in a
couple places.  Not only that, but there are prayerbooks, song books, and
other materials also available.  I found a lot of materials from the
'early canadiana online' website, not just for Chinook Jargon, but also
for a variety of other languages.

www.canadiana.org

http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/SearchResults?id=e3a45aaa761cf5ec&query=+++Chinook+jargon&range=subject&bool=all&subset=all&pubfrom=&pubto=

Dale

> Dai s'la,
>
> In the same boat here for a long time with Milluk materials.  I wanted to
> have my own copy of Coos Texts by Frachtenberg, but unless I borrowed it
> through two libraries from the Univ. of Michigan or somewhere else, I was
> out of luck.  Enter Google Books.  I know have my own copy in PDF .
> Amazing.
> http://books.google.com/books?id=g9NYAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Coos+texts+Frachtenberg&ei=ANu4Sqq3CYHENbeviNkP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
>   I know some of you are a bit worried/scared about Google and copyright,
> as am I as an author, but... for indigenous language research on old out
> of copyright books, it's been a godsend.  I now have most every
> hard-to-get book I've ever encountered in my bibliographic research on
> Kusan languages and beyond.  All free.  All downloadable, etc.  (No, I do
> not work or get sponsored by Google to say any of this... after you see
> the results below, you'll know why I'm telling you this)
>
> My bet is that the Chinook resource in question may already be available
> online.  Looking up Chinook dictionaries, I found the following:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=rhsOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA5&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=edq4SuHgD4WQNoWDrLYP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=03sZAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+dictionary&ei=o9u4Suj6F5SCNrOj2MIP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=-UMSAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=chinook+texts&ei=wtu4SqHbCJ2sNZ6B8dsP#v=onepage&q=&f=false
>
> Looking for Dakota language resources (including the bible text you
> already own):
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=vXhEGl6k4cEC&pg=PP14&dq="dakota+language"+riggs&lr=&ei=2Ny4SuSSFYmGNpy_0N0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20language%22%20riggs&f=false
> http://books.google.com/books?id=mqoUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1&dq="dakota+wowapi+wakan"+riggs&lr=&as_brr=1&ei=m924SqPKMIi0NvTvsM0P#v=onepage&q=%22dakota%20wowapi%20wakan%22%20riggs&f=false
>
> If some of you don't know about this resource, you must.
>
> Tsu tsi wes,
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET>
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:33:28 AM
> Subject: [ILAT] chinook language
>
> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> Perhaps there is someone in the world of academia who could digitize the
> dictionary so that all who answered, and those who aren't on this
> listserv, can use it.
>
> I was fortunate to be notified by Patrick Hall that the entire bible in
> the Dakotah language is online.  My family owns a copy but it is missing
> the first 60 pages so I was very grateful for this resource.  It is
> amazing how much language is in the bible.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Tue Sep 22 21:34:26 2009
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:34:26 -0400
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <347146.23892.1253551938952.JavaMail.root@vms061.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.173426.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

One point to consider in deciding whether to subtitle is that nowadays,
with the ease of computer publication, you can do both. You might, for example,
produce some monolingual copies for use in an immersion school and some
copies with subtitles for use by parents who don't know the language and
possibly for sale outside the community if you consider that appropriate and
want to try to generate some revenue that way.

Also, if you create on-line versions, you can initially present each page
monolingually but make it possible to request information in English,
e.g. the meaning of individual words or the translation of a sentence.

Bill


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 23:18:31 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:18:31 -0700
Subject: the book discussion
In-Reply-To: <20090922213426.E42F4B2518@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.161831.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Bill -- excellent point!  Technology presents lots of options -- As
always, the preparation of materials
has to be done with the overall goals and abilities of the learners in mind.

Best,
Susan



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:34 PM, William J Poser <wjposer at ldc.upenn.edu>wrote:

> One point to consider in deciding whether to subtitle is that nowadays,
> with the ease of computer publication, you can do both. You might, for
> example,
> produce some monolingual copies for use in an immersion school and some
> copies with subtitles for use by parents who don't know the language and
> possibly for sale outside the community if you consider that appropriate
> and
> want to try to generate some revenue that way.
>
> Also, if you create on-line versions, you can initially present each page
> monolingually but make it possible to request information in English,
> e.g. the meaning of individual words or the translation of a sentence.
>
> Bill
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Tue Sep 22 23:58:05 2009
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:58:05 -0600
Subject: Saskatchewan First Nation Speaking Project
In-Reply-To: <1F600A93-1871-4B5D-9202-1A75CE312442@umn.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.SEP.2009.175805.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saskatchewan First Nation Speaking Project

www.allanadam.com

Saskatchewan First Nations Language Speaking Project

Vision

To enable individuals, families, organizations and communities to increase speaking ability of First Nation

languages in Saskatchewan.

Goal

To develop a method for First Nation language learners to speak a base vocabulary so they can converse with

fluent speakers and work towards gaining oral fluency

Principles

? No cost to learn, resources are free

? Accessible to everyone

? Community driven by volunteers

? Oral fluency is most valued

? Minimal resources required to run programs

? Enables Elders to pass knowledge directly to learners

? Focus on learning whole phrases versus grammar and word lists

? Takes advantage of digital technology and internet

Tools

1. First Nations Language Speaking Circle

2. First Nations Language Online Speaking Lessons

3. First Nations Language Audio Lessons

First Nations Language Speaking Circle ? The tool to link fluent speakers to learners in one room

In April 2009, the Regina First Nations Language Speaking Circle began. This group began with a group of

interested fluent speakers and interested language learners who met once a week for an hour and a half to learn

to speak a First Nations language. Schools, workplaces and other regions of the country have expressed interest in also starting local speaking circles. 

First Nations Language Online Speaking Lessons ? The tool to link fluent speakers to learners

globally

Shortly after the Regina First Nations Language Speaking Circle began to meet, the lessons taught at each

session were recorded using a digital recorder and uploaded to a website for learners to practice. This allows

learners who do not know a fluent speaker to continue to practice speaking daily which is the most effective

way of learning. So far there are 800+ files online. By the end of the project, there will be approximately 1000

phrases total in 9 language categories on this website. There are now both video and audio lessons in Woods Cree, Plains Cree,

Nakota, Saulteaux, Dene, and will be adding Ojibway and Dakota soon.

First Nations Language Audio Lessons ? For learners without high speed internet access

For communities and individuals with no to high speed internet, the video lessons are inaccessible. We are now

working on different way to the digital audio files with others.

We have recently added these files to the web site so people can download them to make their own CD?s. We

are hoping that communities will create and share copies of these files with others.

The Coordinators

This project is a personal project for Allan Adam and Cathy Wheaton. It is unfunded and not affiliated with any institution. Allan Adam is a fluent Dene speaker,

interpreter/translator and instructor originally from Fond du Lac Denesuline First Nation. Cathy Wheaton is

Woodlands Cree from La Ronge Indian Band but wishes to become a fluent speaker like most of her family.

Allan and Cathy have spent hundreds of hours January 2009 working on this project. It was initially not

anticipated to be this large but it grew very quickly!

Thank You!

Everyone who made this project a reality gave their time freely on a volunteer basis. Elders who spent time with the project includes Nakota Elders: Fred Spyglass of Mosquito First Nation and Wilma Kennedy of Carry the Kettle. Our fluent speakers were Bill Cook, Bernie Cook, Guy Albert, Reg and Marlene Bugler,

Darren Okemaysim, Doreen Oakes, Allan Adam, Natalie Owl, Alice Taysap and many others who attended our

weekly Speaking Circles. Jessica Generoux who works at the Albert Library offered free space and

program promotion for the Speaking Circle. Allan Adam donated web site space on his web site for this project. He also records the audio files with Elders

and fluent speakers, edits and creates the online videos. Cathy Wheaton compiles the common phrase lists for

interviews, organizes the web site content, finds external links, writes the materials, coordinates the speaking

circles and uploads files to Youtube. Together we travel to communities to interview and meet Elders on our

own expense in our spare time. We encourage others with similar interests to do the same!

Contact:

Allan Adam

(306) 960-5192

(306) 425-3354

allan.adam at sasktel.net

Cathy Wheaton

(306) 425-0488

(306) 425-3354

chimiskwew at hotmail.com
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From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 23 17:27:36 2009
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:27:36 -0700
Subject: Books online: Gutenberg Project
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%200909230000183410.000D@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.102736.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks to Troy for alerting us to the Google source for Native texts.
For those concerned about indirectly contributing to a commercial
enterprise, no matter how apparently altruistic, there is the volunteer
alternative of the Gutenberg Project. It was started at the University
of Illinois by one man typing in texts by hand, gradually joined by
volunteers doing the same thing, but with the advent of easy scanning,
any book can be entered into the collection. They welcome volunteer
contributions of time or money, and have no ulterior motive. This would
be a good place to archive Native texts, or any books that are not in
copyright. You can request a free CD of recently added texts, or a DVD
containing nearly 10,000 books on one disk.

Here is a link to their web site:

     http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

  Rudy


From saxon at UVIC.CA  Wed Sep 23 17:43:38 2009
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:43:38 -0700
Subject: Wade Davis on CBC radio and on tour
In-Reply-To: <20090923102736.1fgg80ocw8gwk04w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.104338.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wade Davis will be speaking on 'why ancient knowledge matters in the modern world' and publishing a book called 'The Wayfinders'. His tour and the book are part of the CBC Massey Lectures series. The lectures will be broadcast on the Ideas program (CBC) on 2-6 November 2009.

Here is a quote from the CBC publicity:
"In The Wayfinders, Wade Davis offers a gripping and enlightening account of this urgent crisis. He leads us on a fascinating tour through a handful of indigenous cultures, describing the worldviews they represent and reminding us of the encroaching danger to humankind's survival should they disappear."

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/massey.html

_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/


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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Wed Sep 23 19:15:25 2009
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:15:25 -0500
Subject: Wade Davis on CBC radio and on tour
In-Reply-To: <C6DFAC5A.2D29%saxon@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.141525.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

tizham?h Leslie,this sounds really excellent.
We've all been hearing the death nell bell about languages disappearing
daily
but hopefully these kind of lecturers and writers can put in clear words for
the rest of the world why this preoccupation with our languages isn't some
sort of infatuation or romance with the past but at its core is really about
the future and survival.

Richard
Wyandotte Oklahoma




On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Leslie Saxon <saxon at uvic.ca> wrote:

>  Wade Davis will be speaking on 'why ancient knowledge matters in the
> modern world' and publishing a book called 'The Wayfinders'. His tour and
> the book are part of the CBC Massey Lectures series. The lectures will be
> broadcast on the Ideas program (CBC) on 2-6 November 2009.
>
> Here is a quote from the CBC publicity:
> "In *The Wayfinders*, *Wade Davis* offers a gripping and enlightening
> account of this urgent crisis. He leads us on a fascinating tour through a
> handful of indigenous cultures, describing the worldviews they represent and
> reminding us of the encroaching danger to humankind?s survival should they
> disappear."
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/massey.html
>
> _________________________________
> Leslie Saxon
> Department of Linguistics
> University of Victoria
> Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
> (250) 721-7433 (office)
> (250) 721-7423 (fax)
> http://www.uvic.ca/ling/
>
> Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
> http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/
>
>
>
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 24 00:03:44 2009
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:03:44 -0400
Subject: Books online: Gutenberg Project
In-Reply-To: <20090923102736.1fgg80ocw8gwk04w@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.23.SEP.2009.200344.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Rudy, there is also the "Internet Archive"
http://www.archive.org/index.php. They have a number of important works
already scanned and available free. For example the Handbook of American
Indian Languages is available, volume three can be found here
http://www.archive.org/details/rosettaproject_tqw_morsyn-2 ... the online
browsing option is very nice. The site can also serve as a host for digital
artifacts. They have traditionally been "independent" but with Google's
recent moves to make books available online they have started working with
the likes of Microsoft. Shannon

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> Thanks to Troy for alerting us to the Google source for Native texts.
> For those concerned about indirectly contributing to a commercial
> enterprise, no matter how apparently altruistic, there is the volunteer
> alternative of the Gutenberg Project. It was started at the University
> of Illinois by one man typing in texts by hand, gradually joined by
> volunteers doing the same thing, but with the advent of easy scanning,
> any book can be entered into the collection. They welcome volunteer
> contributions of time or money, and have no ulterior motive. This would
> be a good place to archive Native texts, or any books that are not in
> copyright. You can request a free CD of recently added texts, or a DVD
> containing nearly 10,000 books on one disk.
>
> Here is a link to their web site:
>
>    http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
>  Rudy
>
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From MBuckner at MISSOURISTATE.EDU  Wed Sep 30 14:36:34 2009
From: MBuckner at MISSOURISTATE.EDU (Buckner, Margaret L)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:36:34 -0500
Subject: student looking for summer project
In-Reply-To: <612998.58197.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.093634.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILAT listserv members,

I am studying linguistic anthropology at Missouri State University, where I am a senior. I am looking for a project to which I could contribute this summer, preferably one centered on linguistics--archaeological summer programs are plentiful, but linguistically-focused project are much harder to find. I do not require a paycheck (although that would be nice), but room and board in return for my time would be great.

Thank you,
Braden Elliott

P.S.  Please reply to me directly at:  hobo.hermit at gmail.com
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 17:13:07 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:13:07 -0400
Subject: Student Internships!
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.131307.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILAT members,

Helen Aristar Dry sent me the following note with permission to share it
with all of you:

Last summer was our third year of taking summer interns--it has been a
highly successful program--of the 9 interns we've had, 4 have stayed on past
the summer to work on 4 NSF projects: LL-MAP, MultiTree, LEGO, and now the
ELIIP workshop.

We have also created a linguistics internship register at
http://linguistlist.org/internship/index.cfm

It looks like we have 14 open internships currently listed.  We will be
advertising the LINGUIST List 2010 Summer Internship there shortly.


-Helen
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Buckner, Margaret L <
MBuckner at missouristate.edu> wrote:

> Dear ILAT listserv members,
>
> I am studying linguistic anthropology at Missouri State University, where I
> am a senior. I am looking for a project to which I could contribute this
> summer, preferably one centered on linguistics--archaeological summer
> programs are plentiful, but linguistically-focused project are much harder
> to find. I do not require a paycheck (although that would be nice), but room
> and board in return for my time would be great.
>
> Thank you,
> Braden Elliott
>
> P.S.  Please reply to me directly at:  hobo.hermit at gmail.com
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From tgranadillo at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:01:56 2009
From: tgranadillo at GMAIL.COM (Tania Granadillo)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:01:56 -0400
Subject: Elan help anyone?
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.150156.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi
I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
great too...

Thanks!
Tania
-- 
Tania Granadillo
Assistant Professor
Anthropology and Linguistics
Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
University of Western Ontario
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From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:15:00 2009
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea Berez)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:15:00 -0700
Subject: Elan help anyone?
In-Reply-To: <fe1b10060909301201j68cd8010m31b81458897d2e0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.121500.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Tania,

I have some course materials from the InField workshop on ELAN in 2008 that
contain step-by-step instructions for doing what you'd like to do. You can
download them here:
http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/faculty/infield/courses/elan.html

In the coursepack file, you can look at the section on "Creating a
two-language basic annotation" for your interview, and maybe the section on
full IGT is what you want for your "traditional linguistic elicitation."
There's also some information on wrapping your head around tiers and
linguistic types.

Good luck!
HTH,
Andrea
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Tania Granadillo <tgranadillo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
> past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
> that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
> make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
> to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
> and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
> english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
> if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
> great too...
>
> Thanks!
> Tania
> --
> Tania Granadillo
> Assistant Professor
> Anthropology and Linguistics
> Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
> University of Western Ontario
>
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 30 19:50:06 2009
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:50:06 -0400
Subject: Elan help anyone?
In-Reply-To: <fe1b10060909301201j68cd8010m31b81458897d2e0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.30.SEP.2009.155006.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I was just going to say, "Write to Andrea Berez" -- but there she is!  The
materials she developed for last summer's 'InField' were wonderful!  Glad
you are both on ILAT!!

Susan

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Tania Granadillo <tgranadillo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> I've been trying to do some transcriptions in Elan and can't seem to get
> past the designing the template to use. So I was wondering if there's anyone
> that would share one of their Elan files that I could use as a template or
> make one simple one for me so that I can somehow get started...  I'm looking
> to transcribe a simple one language interview  with a translation in english
> and also have another two language "traditional" linguistic elicitation with
> english translation. I just cannot wrap my head around the tiers etc... And
> if anyone can shed light on how to label different speakers that would be
> great too...
>
> Thanks!
> Tania
> --
> Tania Granadillo
> Assistant Professor
> Anthropology and Linguistics
> Co-Director Interfaculty Linguistics program
> University of Western Ontario
>



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Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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