From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Mon Feb  1 18:12:37 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:12:37 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.121237.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

"First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of  
the Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of  
the Fund honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which  
manifests self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the  
cultural fabric of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of  
us to stand up and make a difference, to pass on the ancestral  
knowledge or simply extend a hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier  
(Oglala Lakota),President"

Among the winners;

Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot  
songs for children.

Congratulations. Nina waste'.

Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?



_______________________
Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies, LLC

Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
763-219-1696

Indian Treaty Signers Project
Martin Case, Director
5001 1/2 34th Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

http://www.alliesmediaart.com











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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Feb  1 19:08:41 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:08:41 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <BB57FB69-6ECE-4F82-8C81-3019A61CF416@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.130841.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

kweh Mona,
tizhamëh! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!

after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the arm.
I-my-arm-*grab!*
I-my-arm-*shake!*
*they love it! and don't even realize they are *
*getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
*which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*

too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!

ske:noh
Richard

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com> wrote:

> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>
> Among the winners;
>
> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot songs
> for children.*
>
> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>
> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>
>
>
> _______________________
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> *Allies, LLC *
>
> *Allies: media/art*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *763-219-1696*
>
> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
> *Martin Case, Director*
> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Feb  1 19:34:47 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:34:47 -0700
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec81002011108x3d7564c1i362cc96f2e5596e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.123447.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi, Richard!

Congratulations!

It is always delightful to hear about how you are using ways to teach
language that allows learners to discover the grammar for themselves!  This
is a wonderful approach for all learners/emerging speakers and not just
those in an early education setting.   I have composed a little song to help
teach the different verbs for eat (Animate intransitive, Transitive
Inanimate and Transitive Animate) in our language Michif.  The people who
have learned it start to intuitively understand the differences....  I just
wish I was a better singer and songwriter, LOL!  Any tips?!

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
Heather

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> kweh Mona,
> tizhamëh! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!
>
> after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
> I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the arm.
> I-my-arm-*grab!*
> I-my-arm-*shake!*
> *they love it! and don't even realize they are *
> *getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
> *which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*
>
> too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:
>
>> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
>> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
>> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
>> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
>> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
>> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
>> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>>
>> Among the winners;
>>
>> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot
>> songs for children.*
>>
>> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>>
>> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________
>> Mona M. Smith
>> media artist/producer/director
>> *Allies, LLC *
>>
>> *Allies: media/art*
>> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>> *763-219-1696*
>>
>> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
>> *Martin Case, Director*
>> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>>
>> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From okimah at MAC.COM  Mon Feb  1 20:12:22 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul M Rickard)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:12:22 -0500
Subject: Taiwan indigenous languages
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.151222.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wondering if anyone had any contacts with the Taiwan indigenous  
languages.

I am heading to Taiwan on a conference, but while there I wanted to  
see and perhaps meet some people working with the indigenous language  
of that country.  I am going to Tiapei for the conference but plan to  
travel the northern part of the island as well.

I can be reached through my personal email at:  okimah at mac.com

Thanks.  Paul


From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Tue Feb  2 00:21:16 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:21:16 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002011134x34e6d13bof39aac764155198a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.182116.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Heather!
sounds like you have my similar approach to teaching
helping children to learn without them knowing they are being taught!

tips on singing?  hmmm....thats a tough one! can't help ya there!
awww...i don't think i it takes a *good singer* to sing and get kids
excited.
I think it *does* require a degree of personal koo-koo-craziness. [?]
and not being afraid of being caught acting silly. That and
 a strong inner conviction that if they really learn this silly thing
they'll never forget it. It will be stuck in their head if they need "that
word"
or that sentence structure or whatever.
i guess
for me, most songs sort of evolve over a period of time
but then some die and just get tossed back into the pile of notes.....
some songs come from simply  repeating over and over certain sentences,
using and exaggerating aspirations, nasals and glottal stops.
sometimes the language will just sing itself into being..... and those are
the best.
I don't use any known or established tunes but just let the water drum and
sentences
kind of point the way. But i'm also learning and singing many traditional
songs
which i think might help me to maintain some kind of direction...but who
knows!

ske:noh
Richard


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Taanshi, Richard!
>
> Congratulations!
>
> It is always delightful to hear about how you are using ways to teach
> language that allows learners to discover the grammar for themselves!  This
> is a wonderful approach for all learners/emerging speakers and not just
> those in an early education setting.   I have composed a little song to help
> teach the different verbs for eat (Animate intransitive, Transitive
> Inanimate and Transitive Animate) in our language Michif.  The people who
> have learned it start to intuitively understand the differences....  I just
> wish I was a better singer and songwriter, LOL!  Any tips?!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
> Heather
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> kweh Mona,
>> tizhamëh! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!
>>
>> after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
>> I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the
>> arm.
>> I-my-arm-*grab!*
>> I-my-arm-*shake!*
>> *they love it! and don't even realize they are *
>> *getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
>> *which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*
>>
>> too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:
>>
>>> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
>>> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
>>> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
>>> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
>>> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
>>> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
>>> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>>>
>>> Among the winners;
>>>
>>> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot
>>> songs for children.*
>>>
>>> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>>>
>>> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________
>>> Mona M. Smith
>>> media artist/producer/director
>>> *Allies, LLC *
>>>
>>> *Allies: media/art*
>>> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
>>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>>> *763-219-1696*
>>>
>>> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
>>> *Martin Case, Director*
>>> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
>>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>>> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>>>
>>> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 17:54:27 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:54:27 -0600
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.115427.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit)
focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of
Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out
into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our
languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the
programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in
Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when
global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program
being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things
go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so
important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality
I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful
I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to
promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have
names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their
languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain
their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to
me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and
will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 18:08:35 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:08:35 -0600
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.120835.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kihtwaam!  Hello, again!

I have been thinking about doing an internet radio program for Michif for a
long while....  I even have an account set up at Blogtalk Radio but haven't
really done anything with it yet.  I also set up an Ning site for Michif
sometime ago but that never went anywhere either....  However, Phil's recent
post talking about an Ning site and my friend's new radio show have gotten
me thinking again....  Perhaps I wasn't meant to try to do these things in
isolation?!  (Dah!)  Perhaps, we could do something as a community?  Not
just for Michif, of course, but for all our languages--or at least those of
people who want to get involved.

Now, I am not a digital Native nor do I really "like" technology (sorry!).
(I like it for what it can do but I don't really like messing around with
the nuts and bolts!  LOL!)  However, I am hoping that there is someone out
there who does and would be willing to get involved. ( Like Phil mentioned
in an earlier email, perhaps an MA or PhD candidate?)

So, here is the dream....  What  if WE started an Internet radio program
(with call in, etc.!--on Blogtalk Radio?) so that we could present our
ideas/talks/papers/interviews to a wider audience...?  The program could
even be "broadcast" and the podcasts moved to an site like Ning where access
could be managed if/when necessary (at the request of the speaker, an elder,
a band or tribal council, etc.) (Of course, the podcast could even be given
to the carriers/owners of the knowledge shared and the original destroyed if
so asked.)   What if we had an Ning site we could put up videos as well and
even have chat sessions when if we wanted to get together...?  I am almost
positive that Elluminate! (head office in Calgary, Alberta, close to here!)
would be willing to give us access to a  virtual classroom  when we could do
webcasts, have meetings, etc....

My sense is that many others may have dreamed or are dreaming in a similar
way.  I believe our dreams can show us the way....

Thanks for reading this and listening to me.

Eekoshi.
Heather
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From okimah at MAC.COM  Tue Feb  2 18:12:25 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul M Rickard)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:12:25 -0500
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.131225.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Heather

Here is Quebec there a few artists who sing in their language.   
CerAmony is one rock groups that sing both in Cree and English who  
reside in Montreal. You can follow them on twitter (search for  
CerAmony) as well as a Myspace website.  There is also Samian who  
raps in French and Algonquain.  In Ontario there is Lawrence Martin  
who does sing in Cree.... he's also the mayor of Cochrance, Ontario.

There is a huge group of French and Innu singers from Eastern Quebec  
such as Florent Vallont (of course) as well as Kadia Rock and others.

There are a couple of music tv series/shows currently airing on APTN  
in Canada, you should visit www.aptn.ca  to see who has been featured  
on those shows to get an idea of who is singing in their own language.

Paul



On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Heather Souter wrote:

> Taanshi,
>
> A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/ 
> perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of  
> Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our  
> languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the  
> possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short  
> interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung  
> in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and  
> those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues  
> are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program  
> being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how  
> things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually  
> happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.   
> However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming  
> to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting  
> to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/ 
> cultures!
>
> So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or   
> you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who  
> sing in their languages and information about how we could contact  
> them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook,  
> youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.   
> ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if  
> she wants to join ILAT.)
>
> Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
> Heather
>
>
>
>
>


From pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET  Tue Feb  2 18:13:26 2010
From: pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:13:26 -0700
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <BB57FB69-6ECE-4F82-8C81-3019A61CF416@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.111326.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My congrats added to Mona's!  It soo cool we have such a talented/ 
committed group here on ILAT.

Phil Cash Cash
UofA


On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mona Smith wrote:

> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of  
> the Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of  
> the Fund honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which  
> manifests self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain  
> the cultural fabric of a community.  " It is that which moves each  
> one of us to stand up and make a difference, to pass on the  
> ancestral knowledge or simply extend a hand of grnerosity", says  
> Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>
> Among the winners;
>
> Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot  
> songs for children.
>
> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>
> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>
>
>
> _______________________
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> Allies, LLC
>
> Allies: media/art
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> 763-219-1696
>
> Indian Treaty Signers Project
> Martin Case, Director
> 5001 1/2 34th Ave. South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> indiantreatysigners at gmail.com
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


From deanna.kingston at OREGONSTATE.EDU  Tue Feb  2 18:17:41 2010
From: deanna.kingston at OREGONSTATE.EDU (Kingston, Deanna)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:17:41 -0800
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.101741.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Heather,
This is not exactly what you've requested, but it's similar and may help your friend.  In Nome, Alaska, KNOM (and I think KICY, but I don't listen to that one) is a volunteer-run "mission" radio station.  They are affiliated with the Catholic Church and Catholics from all over the nation come to live in Nome for a year or more to run the station.  My community converted to Catholicism (while retaining many of their own traditions) in the early 20th century, so almost all King Islanders listen to KNOM.

The reason why I bring this up is that KNOM has done a wonderful job in incorporating local Alaska Native music into their programming.  It's a cool station - you might hear Classic Rock, then the King Islanders singing their shaman song, then country, then the St. Lawrence Islanders singing something.  They also do all the usual news and weather, etc.  Anyway, they may be someone to contact in terms of how they have handled gaining permission to play the indigenous music (usually the music was recorded at a public event) and as a volunteer station, KNOM doesn't make money, so King Islanders and others allow their songs to be played.  Here's the website:  http://www.knom.org/.

I just looked at their website and they do have audio files of Alaska Native music on the site . . . maybe it's something to look at.
Deanna


On 2/2/10 9:54 AM, "Heather Souter" <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather






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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:14:15 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:14:15 -0700
Subject: The Canadiens lost, but Inuktitut scored a win (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.121415.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The Canadiens lost, but Inuktitut scored a win

THE GAZETTE FEBRUARY 2, 2010
 Canada

Saturday's game between the Canadiens and the Ottawa Senators marked
the first time Inuktitut was used for a hockey play-by-play broadcast.

The CBC project wasn't totally smooth sailing. The announcers used the
Inuit word for fishing net to describe the hockey net. And northern
fans without satellite or cable had to listen on radio while watching
on broadcast TV, the Globe and Mail reported.

But one way or another thousands of Inuit across the territories and
northern Quebec had a chance to watch a game in their own language. It
was a fine initiative. Too bad it was a one-time project, and won't -
not soon, anyway - be a staple of Inuit life.

Access full article below:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Canadiens+lost+Inuktitut+scored/2511439/story.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:20:48 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:20:48 -0700
Subject: Indigenous verse back on agenda (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.122048.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

1 February, 2010 7:57PM AEDT
Australia

Indigenous verse back on agenda

By Jonathan Atkins

Should Australia's national anthem include an Indigenous verse?

The idea has been around for sometime but former senator Aiden
Ridgeway has again raised the question about adding an Indigenous
verse to our national anthem.

Mr Ridgeway believes, "Most people seem to think the anthem is a
little on the dull side so I think we need to do something more to
bring it to life and give it connection back to country and that place
being Australia."

Gumbaynggirr elder Ken Walker and the Muurrbay Aboriginal Language and
Culture Co-operative have taken up the challenge.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/02/01/2806929.htm?site=northcoast


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:29:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:29:30 -0700
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.122930.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

To add on to this discussion, here is a nice link to consider.
~~

Taiwan Journey Part 4: Aboriginal Sounds in Taiwan with Inka Mbing and Totem

By Michal Shapiro
FEBRUARY 1, 2010, 12:00 PM

We tend to think of Taiwan mostly in terms of its relationship to
China. But there are eleven different aboriginal tribes still dwelling
on Taiwan, some going back 7000 years.  Amazingly each one of the
tribes is distinctive from the others in customs and language. What
unites them is their common marginalization, as various successive
powers have attempted to "normalize" them into the ruling or majority
culture. Many have held on to their identities, and still live in the
mountains, valleys and plains of the island.

Access full article below:
http://www.linktv.org/worldmusic/blog/post/366/taiwan-journey-part-4-aboriginal-sounds-in-taiwan-with-inka-mbing-and-totem


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 19:44:05 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:44:05 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a song
 in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.134405.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am helping a friend who is about to
start a radio show at our University.  She is a First Nations person and the
show will have a First Nations, Metis and Inuit perspective/focus.  She is
also a singer/song writer (in English) but understands the value of singing
(and speaking!) in our own languages.

If you have or know of songs in Indigenous languages that you would like to
see get some airtime (even if it is just local right now), please contact
me.  I will pass on the information....

Kihchi maarsii!  Thanks a lot!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather Souter
Michif (Metis) from Camperville, Manitoba, Canada
MA candidate Michif Linguistics and Language
University of Lethbridge
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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Tue Feb  2 20:07:01 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:07:01 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a
 song in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002021144y5cc21c98g7a7ca3cf47fba3d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.140701.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We produced a CD a few years back in several languages.  It's called  
 From The Sky; Stories in Song and Sound from Native North America.   
It's available on MANY digital distributors.  Sung by Georgia Wettlin- 
Larson.   Samples can be found online.   A preview copy could be sent,  
if desired.

m


On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Heather Souter wrote:

> Taanshi,
>
> As I mentioned in a previous post, I am helping a friend who is  
> about to start a radio show at our University.  She is a First  
> Nations person and the show will have a First Nations, Metis and  
> Inuit perspective/focus.  She is also a singer/song writer (in  
> English) but understands the value of singing (and speaking!) in our  
> own languages.
>
> If you have or know of songs in Indigenous languages that you would  
> like to see get some airtime (even if it is just local right now),  
> please contact me.  I will pass on the information....
>
> Kihchi maarsii!  Thanks a lot!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather Souter
> Michif (Metis) from Camperville, Manitoba, Canada
> MA candidate Michif Linguistics and Language
> University of Lethbridge

_______________________
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media artist/producer/director
Allies, LLC

Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
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763-219-1696

Indian Treaty Signers Project
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Feb  2 20:22:15 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:22:15 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a
 song in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 21:07:47 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:07:47 -0700
Subject: Software Company Helps Revive 'Sleeping' Language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.140747.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tuesday Feb. 2nd

Software Company Helps Revive 'Sleeping' Language
10:35 a.m. | Larry Abramson | National Public Radio
USA

Rosetta Stone, which focuses on teaching languages to tourists and
business travelers, is helping the Chitimacha tribe of Louisiana
resuscitate its native tongue. The last native speaker passed away in
1940, and the tribe hopes shiny new software will attract youth to the
language.

In Harrisonburg, Va., a small training room is alive with the sounds
of a once-dead language.

Kimberly Walden, Sandra Boutte and Rachel Vilcan are members of the
Chitimacha tribe. They have flown from Louisiana to the corporate
headquarters of Rosetta Stone, a company that primarily focuses on
selling language software to tourists and business travelers. The
company is helping them develop computer software they hope will help
interest younger members in learning their native tongue.

Access full article below:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/02/02/software-company-helps-revive-sleeping-language/


From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Tue Feb  2 21:22:45 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:22:45 -1000
Subject: UH NFLRC now on Facebook and Twitter
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.112245.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha!

Along with its main website (http://nflrc.hawaii.edu), the National Foreign 
Language Resource Center (NFLRC) at the University of Hawaii is now on Facebook 
and Twitter.  If you are interested in social networking media and wish to get 
the latest up-to-the-minute announcements, news, and reminders from the NFLRC, 
we encourage you to sign up as a Facebook fan or follow our Twitter tweets.

1) To become an NFLRC Facebook fan, go to:

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Sign in to your Facebook account and click on the "Become a Fan" button


2) To follow NFLRC on Twitter, go to:

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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:26:49 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:26:49 +1300
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002021008jee3fde2i98040467328058e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.122649.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

I thought you might be interested in this (yep, another one).

I'm catching up with Kim at morning tea on Friday and handing over some more magazines. I catch up with her a couple of weeks ago to do the same thing. From what she was saying it sounds like Sandra is under siege a bit (to put it mildly) - when Sandra was checking her job description she discovered that Margaret's JD had acquired more repository management responsibilities. Sandra went to Terehia about this (because it happened on her watch), and from what Kim said, Terehia was not pleased and would be doing something about it. I am SO not happy with what they (Margaret and Wendy) are trying to do to Sandra, but I don't know how I can help.

I did say to Kim that it sounded like constructive dismissal to me - M and W trying to squeeze Sandra out in the same way they did with you - but I'm not sure how she took it (she went quiet for a bit). I do know that Kim said she couldn't cope with that kind of thinking when you commented on the desk arrangement issue (with M inserting her buddies between other people so we couldn't "collude") - it did her head in. I guess I'm more of a name it and deal with it kind of person, aye. It's scary, but then you know what you're facing.

In better news - simultaneous interpretation of te reo into English will be starting next week in the House. It's nice not to have the flow of the korero broken up!

Ma te wa

Tracy
-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Heather Souter
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 07:09a.m.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT Community Site....

Taanshi kihtwaam!  Hello, again!

I have been thinking about doing an internet radio program for Michif for a long while....  I even have an account set up at Blogtalk Radio but haven't really done anything with it yet.  I also set up an Ning site for Michif sometime ago but that never went anywhere either....  However, Phil's recent post talking about an Ning site and my friend's new radio show have gotten me thinking again....  Perhaps I wasn't meant to try to do these things in isolation?!  (Dah!)  Perhaps, we could do something as a community?  Not just for Michif, of course, but for all our languages--or at least those of people who want to get involved.

Now, I am not a digital Native nor do I really "like" technology (sorry!). (I like it for what it can do but I don't really like messing around with the nuts and bolts!  LOL!)  However, I am hoping that there is someone out there who does and would be willing to get involved. ( Like Phil mentioned in an earlier email, perhaps an MA or PhD candidate?)

So, here is the dream....  What  if WE started an Internet radio program (with call in, etc.!--on Blogtalk Radio?) so that we could present our ideas/talks/papers/interviews to a wider audience...?  The program could even be "broadcast" and the podcasts moved to an site like Ning where access could be managed if/when necessary (at the request of the speaker, an elder, a band or tribal council, etc.) (Of course, the podcast could even be given to the carriers/owners of the knowledge shared and the original destroyed if so asked.)   What if we had an Ning site we could put up videos as well and even have chat sessions when if we wanted to get together...?  I am almost positive that Elluminate! (head office in Calgary, Alberta, close to here!) would be willing to give us access to a  virtual classroom  when we could do webcasts, have meetings, etc....

My sense is that many others may have dreamed or are dreaming in a similar way.  I believe our dreams can show us the way....

Thanks for reading this and listening to me.

Eekoshi.
Heather

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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:30:48 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:30:48 +1300
Subject: My profound apologies for the last message I sent.
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123048.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Aroha mai. I will take much more care in future with the message I forward from this list. My intention was to forward a message to a friend who is working in the language revitalisation field.

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:31:14 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:31:14 +1300
Subject: Recall: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123114.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The sender would like to recall the message, "ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT Community Site....".


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:36:53 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:36:53 +1300
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123653.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora Heather

I don't have any contacts in this area myself, but you may find something of interest on these sites. (Or these organisations may be able to put you in touch with some people.)

Maori radio broadcasting:

http://www.irirangi.net/

Maori Television:

http://www.maoritelevision.com/default.aspx

Te Reo TV (the 100% Maori language channel):

http://www.tereo.tv/default.aspx

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Heather Souter
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 06:54a.m.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous Languages

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather






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From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Wed Feb  3 02:09:42 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:09:42 -1000
Subject: Announcing New Issue of Language Learning & Technology Journal
 (Vol. 14 Num. 1)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.160942.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We are happy to announce that Volume 14 Number 1 of Language Learning & 
Technology is now available at http://llt.msu.edu. The contents are listed 
below.

Please visit the LLT Web site and be sure to enter your free subscription if 
you have not already done so. Also, we welcome your contributions for future 
issues. See our guidelines for submission at http://llt.msu.edu/contrib.html.


Sincerely,

Dorothy Chun and Irene Thompson, Editors
Language Learning & Technology


----- Feature Articles -----

Corpus-Assisted Creative Writing: Introducing Intermediate Italian Learners to 
a Corpus as a Reference Resource

Claire Kennedy and Tiziana Miceli


Using Synchronous Online Peer Response Groups in EFL Writing: Revision-Related 
Discourse

Mei-Ya Liang


The Effects of Captioning Videos Used for Foreign Language Listening Activities

Paula Winke, Susan Gass, and Tetyana Sydorenko


----- Columns -----

Invited Commentary

New Tools for Teaching Writing
by Mark Warschauer


Emerging Technologies

New Developments in Web Browsing and Authoring
by Robert Godwin-Jones


----- Reviews -----

Edited by Sigrun Biesenbach-Lucas


Second Language Teaching and Learning in the Net Generation
Raquel Oxford and Jeffrey Oxford (Eds.)

Reviewed by Ulugbek Nurmukhamedov


The Theory and Practice of Online Learning
Terry Anderson (Ed.)

Reviewed by Mandy Reinig



----- Call for Papers -----

Theme: Learner Autonomy and New Learning Environments

Hayo Reinders and Cynthia White (Guest Editors)


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Wed Feb  3 14:20:59 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:20:59 -0600
Subject: South Africa Approves Geographical Name Changes as Part of
 Healing and Reconciliation Process
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.082059.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

28 Name Changes Approved

Arts and Culture Minister Lulu Xingwana has approved proposed changes to 28
geographical names, her department said in a statement on Tuesday.

Changes of geographical names like Mafikeng to Mahikeng, in the North West,
and Piet Retief to eMkhondo, in Mpumalanga, were in line with the South
African Geographical Names Council Act, the department said.

"The standardisation of geographical names in South Africa is part of the
healing and reconciliation process... part of the process of redressing the
marginalisation of indigenous language, culture, and heritage.

Read more at:

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=6&art_id=nw20100202131827778C526954
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 13:34:44 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:34:44 -0400
Subject: Technology survey
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.093444.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi all,

If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.

Thanks,
Shannon
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 14:41:41 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:41:41 -0500
Subject: Technology survey
In-Reply-To: <1c1f75a21002040534r687752a0u501a5bc54a418684@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.094141.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Good work, Shannon --
I'd be happy to take a look --

Susan

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:34 AM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
> and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
> survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
> complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
> the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
> things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
> folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
> we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
> interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
> are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
> and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.
>
> Thanks,
> Shannon
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 18:11:02 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:11:02 -0400
Subject: Technology survey
In-Reply-To: <39a679e21002040641i42b9cd99mf2c217f17e6a2d2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.141102.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Sue, I'll get you a copy in about a week. Shannon

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Good work, Shannon --
> I'd be happy to take a look --
>
> Susan
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:34 AM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
>> and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
>> survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
>> complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
>> the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
>> things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
>> folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
>> we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
>> interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
>> are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
>> and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shannon
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb  4 19:03:19 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:03:19 -0700
Subject: Ancient tribal language becomes extinct as last speaker dies (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.120319.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ancient tribal language becomes extinct as last speaker dies

Death of Boa Sr, last person fluent in the Bo language of the Andaman
Islands, breaks link with 65,000-year-old culture

guardian.co.uk
Thursday 4 February 2010 16.28 GMT

Boa Sr, the last speaker of the Bo language of the Andaman Islands,
has died. Photograph: Alok Das/Survival/Survival

The last speaker of an ancient tribal language has died in the Andaman
Islands, breaking a 65,000-year link to one of the world's oldest
cultures.

Boa Sr, who lived through the 2004 tsunami, the Japanese occupation
and diseases brought by British settlers, was the last native of the
island chain who was fluent in Bo.

Access full article below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/04/ancient-language-extinct-speaker-dies


From jjansen at UOREGON.EDU  Thu Feb  4 19:21:59 2010
From: jjansen at UOREGON.EDU (Joana Jansen)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:21:59 -0800
Subject: Keeping the sacred gift of Native language alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.112159.0800.JJANSEN@UOREGON.EDU>

Keeping the sacred gift of Native language alive 
Portland Oregonian January 23, 2010

Here is a recent article with associated pictures and recordings of the teaching being done at Nixyaawii High School and the CTUIR Language Program:

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/index.ssf/2009/01/sounds_of_oregon.html

Joana Jansen
jjansen at uoregon.edu
Northwest Indian Language Institute and
Department of Linguistics, University of Oregon


From okimah at MAC.COM  Fri Feb  5 00:23:56 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul Rickard)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:23:56 -0500
Subject: Finding Our Talk on Youtube
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.192356.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi ILAT users:

For those who are interested in videos about indigenous languages,  
visit our language series "Finding Our Talk" on Youtube.  We've  
recently uploaded HD video excerpts of each episode with a short  
description.  Or you can view them on our website.  www.mushkeg.ca

http://www.youtube.com/user/MushkegMedia

Meegwetch.


Paul Rickard
Mushkeg Media Inc


From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb  5 06:09:06 2010
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea L. Berez)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:09:06 -0900
Subject: CuPED: latest version and users' manual
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.210906.0900.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear List,

This is to let you know that the latest version of CuPED (0.3.14) is now
available. CuPED (Customizable Presentation of ELAN Documents) is a free
tool that allows easy conversion of ELAN audio and video annotations into
user-friendly HTML. The latest version fixes some bugs and brings all the
underlying components up to date.

We also (finally!) have a draft of a users' manual available. The manual,
CuPED for Windows and Mac, the source code, and examples of CuPED in use can
all be downloaded from Chris Cox's website at

http://sweet.artsrn.ualberta.ca/cdcox/cuped/


Both CuPED and the manual are under development, and we openly welcome
suggestions, comments, and bug reports.

Enjoy!

Andrea Berez and Christopher Cox
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb  5 12:55:46 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:55:46 -0500
Subject: CuPED: latest version and users' manual
In-Reply-To: <89bfe5de1002042209l4cefec7agecf1a0e6b26e2529@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.FEB.2010.075546.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is welcome news!  Andrea's materials on ELAN were a big hit at InField
(which is coming up again at Oregon this summer!)

Thanks to both Andrea and Chris for this very helpful work!

Susan

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Andrea L. Berez <andrea.berez at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> This is to let you know that the latest version of CuPED (0.3.14) is now
> available. CuPED (Customizable Presentation of ELAN Documents) is a free
> tool that allows easy conversion of ELAN audio and video annotations into
> user-friendly HTML. The latest version fixes some bugs and brings all the
> underlying components up to date.
>
> We also (finally!) have a draft of a users' manual available. The manual,
> CuPED for Windows and Mac, the source code, and examples of CuPED in use can
> all be downloaded from Chris Cox's website at
>
> http://sweet.artsrn.ualberta.ca/cdcox/cuped/
>
>
> Both CuPED and the manual are under development, and we openly welcome
> suggestions, comments, and bug reports.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Andrea Berez and Christopher Cox
> -----------------------------
> Andrea L. Berez
> PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb  7 20:16:23 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:16:23 -0600
Subject: Potential for Self-Documentation or Elder/Youth Paired
 Documentation of Language/Language Context Using Small Passive
 Recording Devices and/or BOLD?
Message-ID: <SUN.7.FEB.2010.141623.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

My question to everyone is what is the potential for self-documentation of
language/language use context using small passive recording devices?  I just
came across some information on a small passive digital camera called
SenseCam and wonder about its potential use for language documentation when
paired with a similar device for sound recording?  I also wonder about
"lifecasting" style documentation using a small webcam place on a ball cap
and a small mobile computer or other video capture device.

I know it almost smacks of Big Brother type surveillance, but we are being
recorded almost everywhere we go these days....  (Not that I like it! LOL!)
However,  if the recording process was controlled by the language speaker
(and/or face-to-face language learner/apprentice)  and with full knowledge,
acceptance and permission of those being recorded (could be done with
recorder running with simple script was always available or memorized by the
speaker) and other stakeholders ( Elders, their community, etc.), it could
be an excellent way for communities (and trusted others) to obtain an almost
"speaker's eye view" of language context.

Would it be helpful? What are the downsides?  Would speakers of
endangered/indigenous languages and their communities accept such a
recording system?  If yes, for what purposes would speakers and communities
(and trusted collaborating linguists) like to see such a system used? Would
reviewing the images help speakers remember more information that they could
then verbally annotate the sound recording, using the BOLD method for
example?   Could this be another way for speakers and their communities to
gain greater controls over the documentation of language and production of
language materials to support retention, reacquisition and/or heritage
language learning?  If yes, how could this process be facilitated?

If anyone has already given similar ideas some thought, please share them
with the list and/or email me!

Finally,  are some links for those of you (like me, LOL!) not too familiar
with SenseCam, Lifecasting or BOLT and would like to learn and thinking more
about this idea....

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/cambridge/projects/sensecam/default.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifecasting_(video_stream)
https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5071

Kihchi-maarsii.

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
MA Candidate, University of Lethbridge

PS: Although some may have ambivalent  feelings about the source of the BOLD
concept, I still think it has merit....
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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Sun Feb  7 21:39:14 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:39:14 +1300
Subject: Simultaneous Interpretation (Maori to English) to begin in New
 Zealand's Parliament
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.103914.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Simultaneous interpretation (Maori to English) is due to commence in New Zealand's Parliament this week. I thought the list might be interested in this article from December last year, which gives some background:

15 December 2009, 4:36PM

Simultaneous interpretation of Parliament into Maori
By Pita Sharples
135 views


Maori Party Co-leader Dr Pita Sharples today asked the Speaker for details about how Parliamentary proceedings would be translated into Maori in real time, starting next year.

In a point of order at the start of today's sitting, Dr Sharples noted the announcement by the Clerk of the House, that simultaneous translation will be introduced when the House resumes sitting in 2010.

"The Maori Party is pleased to hear this advice, as we believe that it will increase the understanding of Maori, add to the profile of te reo, improve pronunciation and establish the status of te reo as an official language of this land," said Dr Sharples.

Full article at: http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?l=1&t=115&id=46034

People accessing the webstreamed or televised debates will be able to choose between either an English +  Maori audio channel (this will be the default) or English only audio channel. The radio broadcast will continue to be broadcast direct from the floor of the House (this is the English + Maori audio).

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb  7 22:44:21 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:44:21 +1100
Subject: BOLD methodology
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.094421.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi ILATers,

Steven Bird recently released a web site for the "Basic Oral Language
Documentation" (BOLD) project, which you can see here <
http://www.boldpng.info/home>. It sets out the method very clearly, and
links to good resources.

cheers,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Mon Feb  8 16:36:46 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:36:46 EST
Subject: Strengthening the Circle,
 A Native Nonprofit Leadership Program April 20...
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.113646.EST.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: bsawyer at theglobal.net
To: rrlapier at pieganinstitute.org
Sent:  2/7/2010 3:44:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time
Subj: Strengthening the  Circle, A Native Nonprofit Leadership Program 
April 20-23, 



Dear  Rosalyn, 
Strengthening  the Circle, A Native  Nonprofit Leadership Program is now 
accepting applications.  Please find  the application attached.  I would 
appreciate it if you would share this  information with anyone you know may be 
interested in  participating. 
This yearlong training  program is designed to give Executive Directors and 
Board members the tools,  skills, and technical support needed to  
successfully develop and strengthen  nonprofit organizations working with youth in 
Indian Country. Hopa Mountain,  Seventh Generation Fund, the Indian Nonprofit 
Alliance, Artemisia Associates,  WolfStar PR, and the Foundation for 
Community Vitality are cooperatively  organizing the 2010 Native American 
Nonprofit Leadership Program.  

Strengthening the Circle  aims to strengthen the capacities of experienced 
and emerging non-profit  organizations that respond to the needs of American 
Indian families,  especially those organizations serving families and youth 
on Indian  reservations. This Native Nonprofit Leadership Program will 
consist of a 4-day  workshop for 40 executive directors and Board members with 
follow up technical  assistance. The 4-day training program will take place 
in Bozeman, Montana  April 20-23. 

Travel, lodging,  instruction, and materials will be covered for applicants 
that are accepted  into the program. In addition to the 4-day training 
session, each participant  will receive a Strengthening the Circle Guidebook for 
Native nonprofit  leaders, resources for Board development; eight hours of 
consulting or  coaching; and ongoing support through your peers and past 
graduates of the  program.

For more information about  the upcoming program, please contact Marissa 
Spang at Hopa Mountain at (406)  586-2455, _marissa.spang at hopamountain.org_ 
(mailto:marissa.spang at hopamountain.org)   or apply at 
_http://www.hopamountain.org/Strengthening_the_Circle.html_ 
(http://www.hopamountain.org/Strengthening_the_Circle.html) 
All the best,  Bonnie 
Dr. Bonnie  Sachatello-Sawyer 
Executive  Director 
Hopa  Mountain 
234 E.  Babcock, Suite E 
Bozeman,  MT  59715 
(406) 586-2455  (office) 
(406) 581-0824  (cell) 
www.hopamountain.org 


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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb  8 17:56:58 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:56:58 -0700
Subject: Anishinabe-kwe on the air (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.105658.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Anishinabe-kwe on the air

Canada

Anishinabek Nation citizen Jennifer Ashawasegai has signed a one-year
contract with Rogers Radio to produce a weekly one-hour Aboriginal
newsmagazine radio program.

Bamoseda will feature national Aboriginal news, current affairs,
community and culture features, as well as spotlights on
entertainment. Bamoseda translates to walking together" in the
Anishinaabe language.

Bamosedawill be aired on eight Rogers stations and streamed on the
websites of 15 Rogers radio stations as well as Ashawasegai's program
website www.bamoseda.com.

Access full article below:
http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2438106


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb  8 18:04:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:04:30 -0700
Subject: The race to save Indigenous languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.110430.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The race to save Indigenous languages

By Louisa Rebgetz
Posted Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:25am AEDT
Australia

Experts are working hard to record several Top End Aboriginal
languages that are down to their very last speakers.

In the remote Northern Territory community of Wadeye linguists say
four languages will be gone in the next decade.

Patrick Palibu Nudjulu is a Magati Ke elder, custodian of the Rak
Naniny clan and is one of two remaining speakers of the Magati Ke
language.

His sick and elderly sister can speak Magati Ke, but not to the point
where she can help in the documentation of the language.

Maree Klesch works closely with Mr Nudjulu through her job at the
Endangered Languages Centre at Batchelor Institute for Indigenous
tertiary education.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/08/2812936.htm?section=australia


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  9 01:15:49 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:15:49 +1300
Subject: Further info on simultaneous interpretation in the NZ Parliament
Message-ID: <TUE.9.FEB.2010.141549.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Here's a link to more information on the introduction of simultaneous interpretation in the New Zealand Parliament:

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/Features/5/1/2/00NZPHomeNews090220101-Simultaneous-interpretation-in-the-House.htm

Additional information on the history of the Maori language in Parliament is available if you click on the link "Te Reo Maori i te Paremata" (the English text is at the bottom of the page).

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Tue Feb  9 17:20:47 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:20:47 EST
Subject: Summer programs for American Indian graduate students i...
Message-ID: <TUE.9.FEB.2010.122047.EST.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Maybe helpful for some language  folks.
 
 

SAPAI 2010 Summer Writing Retreat and Tribal College Faculty  Preparation 
Training



Student to Academic Professoriate for  American Indians (SAPAI) is a 
project funded by the National Science Foundation  to increase the rates of degree 
completion for American Indian/Alaska Native  (AIAN) graduate students in 
Science, Technology, Engineering and Math  (STEM).  It also aims to increase 
the representation of AIAN scholars in  STEM faculties at Tribal Colleges 
and Universities (TCU).



We are  currently recruiting participants for the 2010 SAPAI Writing 
Retreat and Faculty  Preparation Workshops.  Please forward this information on 
these amazing  and unique opportunities to students who may be interested.  


SAPAI Writing Retreat 2010:

Dates:  June 14 - July  23

Tentative Location:  The University of Montana,  Missoula

Writing Workshop Summary:

This six week writing workshop  will focus on bolstering critical 
scientific composition skills while providing  guidance in drafting graduate theses 
and dissertations. Some key workshop  elements will include; getting started 
with your writing, technical writing  strategies, applying effective 
literature reviews, getting into the writing  'zone', effectively using your 
graduate committee, and utilizing constructive  formal and informal peer review 
resources. The Writing Retreat provides the  opportunity for participants to 
fully engage in writing without distraction and  with the support of a 
writing coach, teaching assistant, and peer group. By the  end of the workshop 
students should be close to completing a draft of their  document for initial 
review by their graduate committees.  In addition to  writing support, 
Retreat participants also receive:  Weekly stipends  ($250), lodging, meals, 
transportation (to and from retreat location), and  limited child care assistance.



Required prerequisites:  

American Indian/Alaska Native graduate students in STEM fields who have  
completed all degree requirements with the exception of their  
thesis/dissertation are eligible.



SAPAI Faculty Preparation  2010:

Dates:  July 26 - August 13 

Tentative Location:   Salish Kootenai College, Pablo, Montana

SAPAI Faculty Prep  Summary:
Scholars will participate in a TCU Training Program that will  prepare them 
for assuming a faculty position at a TCU. This workshop will accept  a 
small number of scholars and will offer enhancement of skills and knowledge  
useful for TCU STEM faculty. It will focus on how a TCU faculty member can 
raise  funding in support of research, teaching and infrastructure. The goal is 
to  provide graduates with the ability to prepare grant proposals that will 
generate  funding. Each SAPAI Scholar will be part of a transition team 
consisting of the  scholar, the scholar's major professor during their graduate 
degree, a  representative from the TCU where the scholar will become a 
faculty member, and  a representative from the SAPAI Staff. This team will assist 
the scholar during  Step 3 and beyond.  Faculty Prep participants also 
receive:  Weekly  stipends ($250), lodging, meals, transportation (to and from 
training location),  and limited child care assistance.


To apply for one (or both) of  these workshops, please see eligibility and 
application instructions on the  SAPAI website:  http://stepup.dbs.umt.edu/  
<http://stepup.dbs.umt.edu/> 

Please feel free to post the attached  program description.

Many thanks,



Rachel  



==<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>

Rachel  Smith

Student to Academic Professoriate for American Indians  (SAPAI)

Division of Biological Sciences

University of  Montana



phone:  (406) 243-5798

fax:  (406)  243-5858

Rachel.Smith at umontana.edu  <mailto:Rachel.Smith at umontana.edu> 

http:   http://stepup.dbs.umt.edu <http://stepup.dbs.umt.edu/>   

==<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>===<>





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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 10 07:11:34 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:11:34 -0700
Subject: Nunavut language summit begins (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.10.FEB.2010.001134.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nunavut language summit begins

Last Updated: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 | 5:19 PM CT
CBC News

Inuit languages — and how to preserve them in a culture increasingly
dominated by English — are the focus of a Nunavut summit this week
drawing experts from several circumpolar nations.

About 200 delegates from Canada, Greenland and the United States are
in Iqaluit for the Nunavut Language Summit, which began Tuesday and
runs through Friday.

The Nunavut government organized the conference because it wants to
implement new laws aimed at making Inuit languages, including
Inuktitut and Inuinnaqtun, more prominent in the daily lives of
Nunavummiut.

While about 90 per cent of Inuit in Canada still speak Inuktitut, its
use has been slowly declining, according to Statistics Canada. Inuit
make up 84 per cent of Nunavut's population of about 30,000.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2010/02/09/nunavut-lang-summit.html#ixzz0f79V6rvZ


From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb 11 07:16:45 2010
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:16:45 -0700
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%201002110000358077.0009@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.001645.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Howdy, all,

    I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
necessary
to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?

    Thanks,

    Rudy

    Rudy Troike


From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Thu Feb 11 08:08:43 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:08:43 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.190843.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

CD-R will work fine. I think CD-RW won't though, but I'm not exactly sure.

The main restriction is that the files must be encoded at 16 bit 
resolution, 44.1 kHz sample rate and stereo.

Just out of interest (and possibly some professional bias) are you 
archiving these materials? And how are you digitising them?

Aidan Wilson
Audio at Paradisec


-- 
Aidan Wilson

The University of Sydney
+612 9036 9558
+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at usyd.edu.au

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Rudy Troike wrote:

> Howdy, all,
>
>   I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Rudy
>
>   Rudy Troike
>


From tmp at NUNASOFT.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:12:56 2010
From: tmp at NUNASOFT.COM (Eric Poncet [NunaSoft])
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:12:56 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.131256.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Rudy,

Given the affordability of blank CD's and given the worth of your 
content, I definitely suggest buying the best quality. The (very) small 
extra sum spent on top quality will be a good investment!
Also, here's why CD-RW's should be avoided :
a) because of their erasability. True, common sense tells us that nobody 
should reformat a properly labelled CD-RW... but that's not incompatible 
with prudence.
b) though we have no evidence or statistics over a long period on 
longevity, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-RW gives some clues: "CD-RWs 
are not as reliable for long-term storage; however, under recommended 
storage conditions, CD-RW should have a life expectancy of 2 years or 
more (as compared to 30+ years for CD-R)"
c) some CD players can not play CD-RW's

Cheers,
Eric

Rudy Troike a écrit :
> Howdy, all,
>
>    I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD 
> format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Rudy
>
>    Rudy Troike


From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:15:05 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:15:05 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <4B7448A8.6050704@nunasoft.com>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.131505.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I'd also strongly recommend having a hard drive backup (or two) and
DVDs of the materials. That way if you need to replace the CDs or
provide more copies it's easy to burn more.
Claire

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Eric Poncet [NunaSoft]
<tmp at nunasoft.com> wrote:
> Rudy,
>
> Given the affordability of blank CD's and given the worth of your content, I
> definitely suggest buying the best quality. The (very) small extra sum spent
> on top quality will be a good investment!
> Also, here's why CD-RW's should be avoided :
> a) because of their erasability. True, common sense tells us that nobody
> should reformat a properly labelled CD-RW... but that's not incompatible
> with prudence.
> b) though we have no evidence or statistics over a long period on longevity,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-RW gives some clues: "CD-RWs are not as
> reliable for long-term storage; however, under recommended storage
> conditions, CD-RW should have a life expectancy of 2 years or more (as
> compared to 30+ years for CD-R)"
> c) some CD players can not play CD-RW's
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
> Rudy Troike a écrit :
>>
>> Howdy, all,
>>
>>   I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD
>> format.
>> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it
>> necessary
>> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>>
>>   Thanks,
>>
>>   Rudy
>>
>>   Rudy Troike
>


From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:19:53 2010
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea L. Berez)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:19:53 -0900
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.091953.0900.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The lengthy and very serious discussion of longterm sustainability of
digital media aside...

If you're just asking about playback, I was surprised to find that regular
CD-Rs didn't play in some older CD players, and that I did in fact need
"music CDs" to share recordings with folks who just wanted something to
listen to in the kitchen, in the car, etc...

~Andrea
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> Howdy, all,
>
>   I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Rudy
>
>   Rudy Troike
>
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From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Thu Feb 11 23:24:53 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:24:53 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <89bfe5de1002111019y183945c8x45f3df0ddca1a7b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.182453.0500.>

I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
point in preserving two channels.

Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
to be of linguistic significance. 

16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
do with the quality of linguistic recordings.

Bill
 


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Feb 11 23:37:43 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:37:43 -1000
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211232454.0BFB4B2AA0@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.133743.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha. I'll disagree with this. I work in the recording industry outside of my academic duties, and have played around a lot with this for our own audio archives.

It is always best, IMHO, to digitize at the highest possible resolution, and you can always down-sample for online use. I've A/B live and analog conversions that were done at the 44.1k and converted down to 22k. vs. those recorded at 22k, and there is noticeably (to my ears) greater clarity and depth to those that were recorded at the higher rate and down-sampled. We tried this with our Ka Leo Hawai'i archives, and even my colleagues who lacked the recording background could hear the difference on relatively inexpensive speakers. My songwriting partner has done the same with some of his commercial recordings, and found that he can clearly hear the difference when he records at 96k and down-samples to 44.1, as opposed to recording at 44.1.

I did the same kind of experiment with scanning. Try to scan an image at 72DPI, and compare it to one scanned at a higher resolution and then down-sampled. The down-sampled ones are much clearer. Programs like Photoshop will extrapolate based on the surrounding pixels to create an image that is clearer than what the scanning software will do if it scans at 72DPI - those don't take the surrounding pixels into account. Slightly different case case with audio. but similar results.

To me a big consideration is the digital I/O device. If the tapes are valuable, get an external converter (PreSonus units are relatively inexpensive but very good). It will make a huge difference over using the built in mic or line jack on any computers.

Re: mono recordings, agreed. However, if you record mono, make sure whatever format you are going to serve it as (or burn it to) will handle it properly. It's no fun listening to a mono track through one earphone, and some software encountered will do that, i.e., assume that the mono file is simply one side of a stereo track, and leave you with one ear listening.

My 2 cents.

Keola


On 2010 Pep. 11, at 13:24, William J Poser wrote:

> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
> point in preserving two channels.
> 
> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
> to be of linguistic significance. 
> 
> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.



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Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

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From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Thu Feb 11 23:57:56 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:57:56 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211232454.0BFB4B2AA0@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.105756.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and 
sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be 
stereo, 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.

Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't 
a computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio 
CD wav files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD 
players are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 
kHz. Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the 
audio such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or 
just outputting digital noise.

-- 
Aidan Wilson

The University of Sydney
+612 9036 9558
+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:

> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
> point in preserving two channels.
>
> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
> to be of linguistic significance.
>
> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>
> Bill
>
>


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 02:01:17 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:01:17 -0800
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121050370.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.180117.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I would record at the highest rate even though, as Bill points out,
that it is a waste of space. Terabyte Hard drives are the norm.  If
you are worried about space make sure you compress with a lossless
compressions such as FLAC, programs like Audacity can do this
natively.  Audacity also has a timer for the record function so you
can set it to record for 30 minutes, and it is available for Linux,
Mac, Windows. This list is ordered for a reason ;)

I don't think it really matters when burning to a CD what sample rate
you use, because programs like iTunes or Windows Media Player usually
upsample and convert to a WAV before the burn it to a CD anyways.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Aidan Wilson <aidan at usyd.edu.au> wrote:
> While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and
> sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be stereo,
> 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.
>
> Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't a
> computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio CD wav
> files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD players
> are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
> Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the audio
> such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or just
> outputting digital noise.
>
> --
> Aidan Wilson
>
> The University of Sydney
> +612 9036 9558
> +61428 458 969
> aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au
>
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:
>
>> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
>> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
>> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
>> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
>> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
>> point in preserving two channels.
>>
>> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
>> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
>> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
>> to be of linguistic significance.
>>
>> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
>> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
>> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
>> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
Skype: neskiemanuel
Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie


From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Fri Feb 12 02:38:50 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:38:50 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <6838a1931002111801w303d8bd2r25e2ddebffb30c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.133850.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

If you're "creating an audio CD" using iTunes or indows Media Player, then 
sure; it'll do all the converting for you, but this is potentially 
sub-optimal, as you may be creating a CD from mp3 files. These programs 
will happily expand them out to CD-Audio WAV specifications in the 
formatting and burning process, but needless 
compression/expansion/transcoding should be avoided.

I was thinking along the lines of manually formatting a bunch of audio 
files using Audacity or something, and using a program like burn (on a 
mac) or Brasero (on Linux). There must be a similar program for Windows - 
the point is there should be a checkbox for 'audio CD' - but I haven't 
used Windows in some time.

On the tangential issue running alongside this thread, yes, the higher the 
better when it comes to audio quality, and only transcode at the last 
minute. If you're digitising something and turning it into an audio CD for 
instance, do all your bits and pieces to the files, normalising, EQ, noise 
filtering, etc. first. Resampling and dithering to 44.1 at 16 should be the 
very last operation.

Bill maintains that the human ear is incapable of discerning frequncies 
above 22000 kHz, and that may well be true, but the human brain is capable 
of hearing quantization at that speed. As a test, take a 44.1 kHz file and 
slow it down by half using ELAN or something - you'll hear choppy 
playback. If you do the same to a 96 kHz file the effect is nowhere near 
as noticeable.

-Aidan

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Neskie Manuel wrote:

> I would record at the highest rate even though, as Bill points out,
> that it is a waste of space. Terabyte Hard drives are the norm.  If
> you are worried about space make sure you compress with a lossless
> compressions such as FLAC, programs like Audacity can do this
> natively.  Audacity also has a timer for the record function so you
> can set it to record for 30 minutes, and it is available for Linux,
> Mac, Windows. This list is ordered for a reason ;)
>
> I don't think it really matters when burning to a CD what sample rate
> you use, because programs like iTunes or Windows Media Player usually
> upsample and convert to a WAV before the burn it to a CD anyways.
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Aidan Wilson <aidan at usyd.edu.au> wrote:
>> While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and
>> sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be stereo,
>> 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.
>>
>> Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't a
>> computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio CD wav
>> files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD players
>> are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
>> Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the audio
>> such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or just
>> outputting digital noise.
>>
>> --
>> Aidan Wilson
>>
>> The University of Sydney
>> +612 9036 9558
>> +61428 458 969
>> aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
>>> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
>>> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
>>> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
>>> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
>>> point in preserving two channels.
>>>
>>> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
>>> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
>>> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
>>> to be of linguistic significance.
>>>
>>> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
>>> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
>>> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
>>> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
> Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
> SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
> Skype: neskiemanuel
> Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie
>


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:28:13 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:28:13 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121050370.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.002813.0500.>

Yes, an audio CD must be stereo, 44.1 KHz, 16 bit. But that's not the
question. If you're digitizing analogue tapes, the data is likely to
be used in a variety of ways, only one of which is making audio CDs.
When you want to make an audio CD, if your data is in another format,
you convert it to the audio CD format, which is easily done. If your
original recording is monaural, as most linguistic recordings are in my
experience, there's no point in wasting space and processing time in
digitizing it stereo (or even worse, as can happen, digitizing one
channel of voice and another of background noise). If you need a
"stereo" version for an audio CD, it is a trivial matter to duplicate
the single channel.

With regard to higher sampling rates, I agree that they're desirable
for music, which is of course what the recording industry is concerned
with, but I repeat that there is not the slightest evidence that anything
of significance in speech is found above 10Khz. Even if real psychophysical
experiments rather than anecdotes demonstrate that people can tell the
difference, the question is, does the difference matter? Piles of evidence
form psychophysical experimentation together with practical experience
in both phonetics research and speech technology indicate no.

If you've got lots of space and processor time go ahead and digitize at
44.1K, but for straight speech data there really isn't any good reason to go
so high. 

I concur that the quality of the digitizer can make a lot of difference
(as can setting the input gain properly so as to take advantage of the
full range of the quantizer while avoiding clipping.)

Bill
 


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:33:53 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:33:53 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <6838a1931002111801w303d8bd2r25e2ddebffb30c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.003353.0500.>

I agree with Neskie that worrying about space is mostly a throwback to
earlier times when much less storage was available, and I say this
when on my more serious rant about the evils of lossy compression. As
he says, if  you're going to compress, use FLAC (or another lossless
method, though FLAC is my personal favorite), not MP3 or some other
lossy technique. At the same time, if you're doing things like editing
large recordings, a lower sampling rate and/or fewer channels can reduce
memory (primary memory, not disk space) and processing requirements
enough to make it possible to edit recordings that would otherwise be
too large or to obtain much greater responsiveness from what would
otherwise be a sluggish machine.

Bill


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:37:11 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:37:11 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121327400.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.003711.0500.>

Aidan writes:
> As a test, take a 44.1 kHz file and 
>slow it down by half using ELAN or something 

What exactly do you mean by "slow it down"? I think we may be talking
processing artifict here, but I'm not sure.

Bill


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:50:24 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:50:24 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121327400.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.005024.0500.>

I should perhaps clarify that I'm not so much arguing that you ought
to use a lower sampling rate as that you shouldn't feel obligated to
use a 44.1 K rate and shouldn't feel ashamed of producing inferior
material if you do use a lower (but still sufficiently high) rate.

Here's my overall position, for the usual situation in which lots of
storage is available. (Those archiving data on, say, old satellites,
are in a different situation.) If you want to save space, the sequence
in which techniques should be used is as follows:

(a) record/digitize mono rather than stereo
    This gives you a savings of 50% at no cost in quality.
    If you're working with something like conversational data this
    will not be true, so this applies only to monologues.

(b) use a lossless compression technique such as FLAC
    This gives you a savings of about 50% (variable depending on the
    data) at no cost in quality. For some people this might be the
    first technique to use rather than the second. I prefer not to have
    to decompress to work with the data (if it isn't long term archival),
    but your mileage may vary.

(c) use a lower sampling rate
    If you use a rate of 22.05K, this gives you a savings of 50%
    at little or no cost in quality. This applies only to pure speech data.
    Some music may well contain higher frequency components of significance.

(d) use a lossy compression technique
    Don't. Ever. With current hardware there is unlikely to be any
    justification for doing this. (For some devices/users you may need to
    create MP3s, but these should be regarded as inferior versions of the
    material. Also, you may be able to use a high bit-rate MP3 and avoid
    most of the distortion.)

Bill


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:50:54 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:50:54 -1000
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212052813.DC5B4B26B4@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.195054.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On 2010 Pep. 11, at 19:28, William J Poser wrote:

> Yes, an audio CD must be stereo, 44.1 KHz, 16 bit. But that's not the
> question. If you're digitizing analogue tapes, the data is likely to
> be used in a variety of ways, only one of which is making audio CDs.
> When you want to make an audio CD, if your data is in another format,
> you convert it to the audio CD format, which is easily done. If your
> original recording is monaural, as most linguistic recordings are in my
> experience, there's no point in wasting space and processing time in
> digitizing it stereo (or even worse, as can happen, digitizing one
> channel of voice and another of background noise). If you need a
> "stereo" version for an audio CD, it is a trivial matter to duplicate
> the single channel.

Aloha Bill. To me this is an argument in support of digitizing both channels, or at the very least listening to both sides before digitizing. We have had experience of tapes where there was a significant difference in audio quality between the two sides, or pre-echoes that were more noticeable on one side or the other. It would be easier to have a digitized file that you can more through fairly quickly to compare the two side. Of course for space considerations, the lesser side could be deleted. I've come across one situation where one side was better at the beginning of the tape (some clicking was audible in the better channel toward the end of the tape), and better on the other side at the end. Ended up splicing the two together.

> With regard to higher sampling rates, I agree that they're desirable
> for music, which is of course what the recording industry is concerned
> with, but I repeat that there is not the slightest evidence that anything
> of significance in speech is found above 10Khz. Even if real psychophysical
> experiments rather than anecdotes demonstrate that people can tell the
> difference, the question is, does the difference matter? Piles of evidence
> form psychophysical experimentation together with practical experience
> in both phonetics research and speech technology indicate no.

I can put my faith in research and academic papers or my own ears. I have had audio done as I described - one recorded at 22k and the other at 44.1 and down-sampled. There was a clarity to the second that was not present in the first, and it allowed me to differentiate some sounds that I could not when they were originally recorded at the lower rate. Same equipment, same software. There could be some variable that I don't know about, and it may not be the case for everyone else. As they say, your mileage may vary. I'd recommend to anyone who is going to start an archiving project to experiment broadly. If you can't hear the difference, by all means save the space and extra time it would take to process 44.1 files and go with 22.1. If I still have the files I'll post them, but I kind of doubt it as it was simply experimental and I probably deleted them after we came to a determination and created our system for the project.

In our case, the reel-to-reel tapes were not marked and we had no way of knowing what, if any, noise reduction system was used on them. Took some experimenting, too.

Keola

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Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:46:05 -0700
Subject: Call for Aboriginal language studies in schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.094605.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Call for Aboriginal language studies in schools

Posted February 12, 2010 14:00:00

Griffith University's Dale Kerwin says Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Island dialects have been denied their rightful place as official
Australian languages.

Dr Kerwin says the incorporation of indigenous language into the
classroom will go a long way to create social cohesion and preserving
indigenous cultural heritage.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/12/2818034.htm?site=idx-qld


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 16:50:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:50:45 -0700
Subject: Butchulla may be taught in schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.095045.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Butchulla may be taught in schools

Stephen O’Grady | 12th February 2010
Canada

HERVEY Bay is poised to pioneer an indigenous education revolution.

A senior officer from the Queensland Studies Authority was told
yesterday that the Fraser Coast is ready to trial a ground-breaking
new school syllabus which could place the Butchulla language alongside
Chinese, Indonesian, German and French as classroom subjects.

Paul Herschell, acting deputy director of the QSA’s teaching and
learning division, met with Butchulla elders and education leaders at
the Korrawinga Aboriginal Centre in Hervey Bay to present a statewide
proposal to formalise the education of indigenous languages.

Access full article below:
http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2010/02/12/butchulla-may-be-taught-in-fraser-coast-schools/


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 17:03:17 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:03:17 -0600
Subject: First Nations,
 Metis and Inuit Languages Awareness Day to be Held at Univeristy
 of Lethbridge, Lethbridge, Alberta
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.110317.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi!

I have some exciting news!

Things have come together fast for a First Nations, Metis and Inuit
Languages Awareness Day during the Native Awareness Week  (March 1-5) at the
University of Lethbridge. There will be a lecture series featuring a variety
of speakers and initiatives in communities, academia and elsewhere, plus a
panel discussion "What our languages can give to our children that English
(or other "foreign" languages) cannot" and an afternoon video screening
session featuring videos on language issues and in Indigenous languages.
The exact schedule of speakers, etc. is still being worked out, but it is a
go!

This will be the first major academic initiative to be organized by students
of the Native American Students Association and the first student-organized
event on language issues as well.

More latter!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 17:21:17 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:21:17 -0700
Subject: Butchulla may be taught in schools (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002120850x1f6e0d88yd3aa1ca5c2d55e7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.102117.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Just a minor correction here.  This article originates from Australia
not Canada, sorry.
Lately, I have been adding the country of origin tag line to news
articles since we are are quite an international group here.

thnx,

Phil
UofA ILAT

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Butchulla may be taught in schools
>
> Stephen O’Grady | 12th February 2010
> Canada
>
> HERVEY Bay is poised to pioneer an indigenous education revolution.
>
> A senior officer from the Queensland Studies Authority was told
> yesterday that the Fraser Coast is ready to trial a ground-breaking
> new school syllabus which could place the Butchulla language alongside
> Chinese, Indonesian, German and French as classroom subjects.
>
> Paul Herschell, acting deputy director of the QSA’s teaching and
> learning division, met with Butchulla elders and education leaders at
> the Korrawinga Aboriginal Centre in Hervey Bay to present a statewide
> proposal to formalise the education of indigenous languages.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2010/02/12/butchulla-may-be-taught-in-fraser-coast-schools/
>


From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 17:27:26 2010
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:27:26 -0700
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%201002120000398219.000E@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.102726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Howdy,

   Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.

   Many thanks again,

   Rudy


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 18:07:21 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:07:21 -0500
Subject: First Nations,
 Metis and Inuit Languages Awareness Day to be Held at Univeristy
 of Lethbridge, Lethbridge, Alberta
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002120903t535ee2w1e29a92b8a5416a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.130721.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks for sharing this, Heather--

Good news for all of you and a good example of what is possible through
student initiatives for others!

Susan

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Taanshi!
>
> I have some exciting news!
>
> Things have come together fast for a First Nations, Metis and Inuit
> Languages Awareness Day during the Native Awareness Week  (March 1-5) at the
> University of Lethbridge. There will be a lecture series featuring a variety
> of speakers and initiatives in communities, academia and elsewhere, plus a
> panel discussion "What our languages can give to our children that English
> (or other "foreign" languages) cannot" and an afternoon video screening
> session featuring videos on language issues and in Indigenous languages.
> The exact schedule of speakers, etc. is still being worked out, but it is a
> go!
>
> This will be the first major academic initiative to be organized by
> students of the Native American Students Association and the first
> student-organized event on language issues as well.
>
> More latter!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
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From thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU  Fri Feb 12 20:58:58 2010
From: thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Nick Thieberger)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:58:58 +1100
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212102726.xcim8w448wgwsg88@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.FEB.2010.075858.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
newer, higher resoluion versions.

Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
rarely the case).

Nick

Project Manager
Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
Cultures (PARADISEC)
http://paradisec.org.au

On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
>  Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>
>  Many thanks again,
>
>  Rudy
>


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 21:21:23 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:21:23 -1000
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <b66308511002121258x644b3124tcb6934b375efd58a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.112123.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My final (I hope) contribution to this topic ;-)

We should also conciser the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, which states:

If a function x(t) contains no frequencies higher than B hertz, it is completely determined by giving its ordinates at a series of points spaced 1/(2B) seconds apart.

Essentially, you should sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency you will find in your recording. As Bill mentioned, if the highest frequency that human ears can hear is @ 10k, and we divide 22k by 2, 11k is the upper limit. Beyond that you get some aliasing. For human ears, probably not a problem. How about for as-yet unwritten computer software for transcription that can analyze such data, or better noise reduction algorithms that we have today? I dunno. I would still prefer to be safe and keep a copy at the higher rate. The 96k/24 bit standard Nick cites may be overkill, but somewhere down the road our grandchildren may be grateful that it was done for reasons we don't yet comprehend.

KD


On 2010 Pep. 12, at 10:58, Nick Thieberger wrote:

> An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
> tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
> I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
> resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
> transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
> versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
> standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
> standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
> newer, higher resoluion versions.
> 
> Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
> themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
> rarely the case).
> 
> Nick
> 
> Project Manager
> Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
> Cultures (PARADISEC)
> http://paradisec.org.au
> 
> On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>>  Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
>> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
>> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
>> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
>> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
>> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
>> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
>> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>> 
>>  Many thanks again,
>> 
>>  Rudy
>> 



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 21:25:30 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:25:30 -1000
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <9D64E8C3-A418-4917-ABCA-B6167D544EA3@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.112530.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

One last peep from me -

A recording engineer friend of mine has an axiom (don't know if it's his or he pirated it) that unless he has four copies of any digital files in four different location, the file doesn't really exist. I could cite an example that involved Kenny Loggins but will refrain from name dropping ;-)

Food for thought when considering backup strategies. As Nick noted, tapes may not survive more than one playback, or vaporize 20 years down the road when lack of sufficient backups bite someone in the behind.  

Keola

On 2010 Pep. 12, at 11:21, Keola Donaghy wrote:

> My final (I hope) contribution to this topic ;-)
> 
> We should also conciser the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, which states:
> 
> If a function x(t) contains no frequencies higher than B hertz, it is completely determined by giving its ordinates at a series of points spaced 1/(2B) seconds apart.
> 
> Essentially, you should sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency you will find in your recording. As Bill mentioned, if the highest frequency that human ears can hear is @ 10k, and we divide 22k by 2, 11k is the upper limit. Beyond that you get some aliasing. For human ears, probably not a problem. How about for as-yet unwritten computer software for transcription that can analyze such data, or better noise reduction algorithms that we have today? I dunno. I would still prefer to be safe and keep a copy at the higher rate. The 96k/24 bit standard Nick cites may be overkill, but somewhere down the road our grandchildren may be grateful that it was done for reasons we don't yet comprehend.
> 
> KD
> 
> 
> On 2010 Pep. 12, at 10:58, Nick Thieberger wrote:
> 
>> An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
>> tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
>> I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
>> resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
>> transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
>> versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
>> standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
>> standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
>> newer, higher resoluion versions.
>> 
>> Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
>> themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
>> rarely the case).
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> Project Manager
>> Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
>> Cultures (PARADISEC)
>> http://paradisec.org.au
>> 
>> On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>>  Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
>>> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
>>> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
>>> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
>>> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
>>> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
>>> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
>>> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>>> 
>>>  Many thanks again,
>>> 
>>>  Rudy
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy                                           
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/
> 
> "Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
> 
> 
> 



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From cdcox at UALBERTA.CA  Fri Feb 12 22:07:47 2010
From: cdcox at UALBERTA.CA (Christopher Cox)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:07:47 -0700
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212055024.38C3EB259A@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.150747.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:50 PM, William J Poser <wjposer at ldc.upenn.edu> wrote:
(SNIP)
> (c) use a lower sampling rate
>    If you use a rate of 22.05K, this gives you a savings of 50%
>    at little or no cost in quality. This applies only to pure speech data.
>    Some music may well contain higher frequency components of significance.

I'm not sure that I agree with this point entirely: using a sample
rate of 22,050 Hz should, as both Bill and Keola have pointed out, be
able to reproduce essentially the entire primary frequency range for
speech, from the low 'bass' fundamental frequencies to the upper end
of high-frequency frication.  In that sense, we're not losing anything
by recording language samples for phonetic analysis at this sample
rate, and can certainly save storage space by doing so; 22,050 Hz has
been recommended for a long time in phonetics, even finding its way
into popular textbooks on phonetic fieldwork (e.g. Ladefoged 2003, p.
26).

This doesn't mean that samples recorded at this rate necessarily sound
as good as higher-frequency recordings, though, as Keola mentioned.
Even though this sampling rate captures the essential frequency range
for speech (i.e. up to around 11KHz) , most people's hearing extends
well beyond that into the 20KHz range.  The lower sampling rate might
not incur distortions that would affect phonetic analysis, but there
is usually still an audible difference in quality between recordings
digitized at 44.1KHz versus those digitized at 22.05KHz, and likewise
for higher sampling rates.

I'm not sure that Ladefoged's recommendation of a 22,050 Hz sampling
rate was really made with reuse of recordings outside of phonetics in
mind.  For some other purposes, the 'aesthetic' sound quality of a
recording may be fairly important, maybe particularly if recordings
have some cultural, historical, or even just sentimental value.  If
22,050 Hz was all that was available, there'd certainly be no harm in
choosing it -- but it would seem a shame to make recordings of a lower
audio quality, just because they're all that's needed for instrumental
phonetics!

Anyway, that's just a thought.  For what it's worth, NINCH (2003),
Bartek & Kornbluh (2002), and the "Sound Directions" guide from
Indiana University all appear to recommend 96Khz / 24-bit WAV for
archival purposes:

http://www.nyu.edu/its/humanities//ninchguide/VII/
http://emeld.org/school/readingroom/bartek-paper.pdf
http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/projects/sounddirections/papersPresent/sd_bp_07.pdf

All the best,


-- 
Chris Cox
cdcox at ualberta.ca


From urbansu at UVIC.CA  Fri Feb 12 23:55:40 2010
From: urbansu at UVIC.CA (Suzanne Urbanczyk)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:55:40 -0800
Subject: Longevity of documentation - Has anyone looked into albums?
In-Reply-To: <DD7490A6-CBD9-4154-AFCA-BA36A45FAD45@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.155540.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I have enjoyed reading about the various issues that arise with 
digitizing cassettes.  Many thanks!!

The discussion has reminded me of a larger issue w.r.t. the long-term 
status of audio recordings.  The question I have is whether anyone 
has looked into copying materials onto LPs - the old-fashioned analog 
album?  The reason I ask is that I have been thinking that this might 
be one form of media that has the potential to retain its longevity 
more than others.  Even 50 year old scratched, gummy old albums can 
be cleaned up and played and do not rely on whether this or that 0 or 
1 is at the beginning of the file,  whether the compression algorithm 
changes the signal, the program changes, etc. etc. or whether the 
media is going to disintegrate after being played after 20 years.

The album has been making a come-back lately and there are different 
types of presses that I am aware of, but want to know if anyone knows 
anything more about this.  Ida Halpern (ethnomusicologist) used to 
take a "record-maker" (the picture I saw looked like a "record", not 
a wax cylinder) with her to document music of the Pacific Northwest 
and I wonder if there is anything like what she used that is 
available today.

many thanks,

Su Urbanczyk


From tmp at NUNASOFT.COM  Sat Feb 13 23:27:32 2010
From: tmp at NUNASOFT.COM (Eric Poncet [NunaSoft])
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:32 -0500
Subject: Longevity of documentation - Has anyone looked into albums?
In-Reply-To: <a05200f28c79b96d51e19@[192.168.0.102]>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.FEB.2010.182732.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi,
Thanks Suzanne for this point on longevity.
Here's my two cents on archiving strategy, and the merciless fight 
against media loss: everytime you get a new computer to replace the 
current one, don't just transfer all your files onto the new computer 
and get rid of the old one: take the old hard drive out of the computer 
and store it in a safe place. As most users, I change computer every 2-5 
years on the average, and my IT experience leads me to believe that the 
average hard drive longevity is significantly longer than 5 years 
(though I have no stats on that point). Over the past 25 years, I've 
always saved my old hard drives and kept them in different safe places. 
I've been able to successfully read files from them whenever I tried to. 
Due to the incremental nature of this strategy, that also means I have 6 
archives of those 25 year old files spread over different places, and 
I'll have 3 more in the next 10 years, etc. Not to mention the automatic 
daily+weekly+monthly backups of my current PC.
Such an incremental archiving scheme would be way harder to implement 
with analog media. The cost? About 10 minutes of work to open that good 
old PC, unscrew the drive and unplug it.
Cheers,
Eric Poncet
CTO
www.nunasoft.com

Suzanne Urbanczyk a écrit :
> I have enjoyed reading about the various issues that arise with 
> digitizing cassettes.  Many thanks!!
>
> The discussion has reminded me of a larger issue w.r.t. the long-term 
> status of audio recordings.  The question I have is whether anyone has 
> looked into copying materials onto LPs - the old-fashioned analog 
> album?  The reason I ask is that I have been thinking that this might 
> be one form of media that has the potential to retain its longevity 
> more than others.  Even 50 year old scratched, gummy old albums can be 
> cleaned up and played and do not rely on whether this or that 0 or 1 
> is at the beginning of the file,  whether the compression algorithm 
> changes the signal, the program changes, etc. etc. or whether the 
> media is going to disintegrate after being played after 20 years.
>
> The album has been making a come-back lately and there are different 
> types of presses that I am aware of, but want to know if anyone knows 
> anything more about this.  Ida Halpern (ethnomusicologist) used to 
> take a "record-maker" (the picture I saw looked like a "record", not a 
> wax cylinder) with her to document music of the Pacific Northwest and 
> I wonder if there is anything like what she used that is available today.
>
> many thanks,
>
> Su Urbanczyk


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb 14 23:26:51 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:26:51 +1100
Subject: digitising cassettes question and responses
Message-ID: <MON.15.FEB.2010.102651.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers,

I think that many people are going to find the conversation about
digitisation and the long-term sustainability of data very useful.

In order to make them more widely available, I've added all of these
contributions to the RNLD web site under the
FAQ<http://www.rnld.org/node/73>section, with the question:
"Digitising cassettes — I'm planning to copy
some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format. What issues do I need
to consider?"

On the linked response <http://www.rnld.org/node/131>, I've included a link
back to ILAT, and all the various contributions together with
acknowledgements and the links included in some postings.

If any of the contributors would like edits to be made to your entry
(including links to your organisation), please let me know.

all the best,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb 15 18:18:09 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:18:09 -0700
Subject: 'Tribal Voice Radio' broadcasting now (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.15.FEB.2010.111809.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

'Tribal Voice Radio' broadcasting now

February 15, 2010
Scott Woodham
USA

According to the Juneau Empire, a new online radio station, "Tribal
Voice Radio," focusing on Tlingit, Haida and Tsimshian news, heritage
and languages launched this morning (2/15) at 8 a.m. The project was
approved last December by the Central Council Tlingit and Haida Indian
Tribes of Alaska The station's mission statement gives a concise
statement of its major goals: "Preserving our sovereignty, enhancing
our economic and cultural resources, and promoting self-sufficiency
and self-governance for our citizens through collaboration, service,
and advocacy."

Access full article below:
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/alaska-beat/235-february-15/4076-tribal-voice-radio-broadcasting-now


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 16 23:11:37 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:11:37 -0700
Subject: ICIPN 2010 - Bovdehus doallat s=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A1hkavuoruid/_?=
 Fi rst call for papers
In-Reply-To: <CCE8552037504846826BDD2E7945FDC48FEAC9F620@SAPOST01.sa.intern>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.FEB.2010.161137.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

fwd
~~~

*VUOSTTAŠ BOVDEHUS DOALLAT SÁHKAVUORUID*



*1.EAMIB**Á**IKENAMAID RIIKKAIDGASKAŠAS KONFERÁNSA*



Čakčamánu 3.-8. beivviid, 2010 Sámi allaskuvllas Guovdageainnus






Sámi Allaskuvla lágida vuosttaš *Eamibáikenamaid riikkaidgaskasaš
konferánssa* (ICIPN) ja bovde dutkiid geat barget eamibáikenamaiguin,
searvat dán vuosttaš fágaidrasttideaddji konferánsii. Oktiigeasuid
sisasáddenáigemearri: *15.3.2010*. Eanet dieđut konferánssa birra leat
čuvvosis ja neahttasiiddus www.icipn2010.no



*[image: icipn-logo_rev2a-small.-Renee Pualani Louis.jpg]***

* *

* *

*FIRST CALL FOR PAPERS   *

* *

*1st INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON INDIGENOUS PLACE NAMES  *



September 3-8, 2010  Sámi allaskuvla – Sámi University College,
Guovdageaidnu, Norway



Sámi University College, an Indigenous higher education institution in Sápmi
(Sámiland) and host of the first *International Conference on Indigenous
Place Names* (ICIPN) invites scholars from around the world currently
working with Indigenous place names to join this first multidisciplinary
conference. Abstract submission: *March 15, 2010*. For further information,
please look at the flyer enclosed and the webpage www.icipn2010.no













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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:30:34 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:30:34 -0700
Subject: Apache speakers hang on (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103034.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Apache speakers hang on
 	
By Mark Herz
Larson Newspapers
USA

For Vincent Randall, the Apache culture director at the Yavapai-Apache
Nation near Camp Verde, being a fish out of water can be a good thing.

Especially if the water is English and the fish is one of the
“Dilzhé’e,” or “Hunters,” the native name for the subdivision of the
Apache people that live at the Nation.

Randall, 66, is one of the few native speakers of Western Apache on
the reservation where the younger generations swim almost exclusively
in a sea of English. But he thinks the Apache language can still be
saved at the Yavapai-Apache Nation.

Access full article below:
http://www.journalaz.com/apache%2012-27-06.htm


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:34:16 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:34:16 -0700
Subject: Canada should support the endangered language protection accord
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103416.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Canada should support the endangered language protection accord

February 17, 2010
Nazrul Islam
Canada

The culture sector of UNESCO recently published a chilling report
asserting that more than half of the world’s 6,000 languages are
endangered.

It pointed out that 96 per cent of the world’s languages are spoken by
just four per cent of the world’s population, that 90 per cent of the
world’s languages are not represented on the internet, that one
language disappears on average every two weeks, and that 80 per cent
of African languages have no orthography.

So how and why does this happen, and what’s the impact of this loss of
languages on the social and economic structure of a country?

Access full article below:
http://news.guelphmercury.com/Opinions/EditorialOpinion/article/598397


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:36:33 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:36:33 -0700
Subject: In America, 191 Languages are Endangered or Extinct (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103633.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

In America, 191 Languages are Endangered or Extinct

By Mary Silver
Epoch Times

Related articles: United States > National News When Boa Sr of India
died in early February at age 85, her mother tongue died with her. She
spoke Bo, a language thought to be 65,000 years old. In the United
States, 191 languages are threatened or extinct, according to the U.N.
educational, scientific, and cultural organization (UNESCO).

Why is loss of ancient languages important?

"I claim that it (the loss of languages) is catastrophic for the
future of mankind," said University of Alaska Fairbanks Professor
Emeritus Michael Krauss in a Science Daily article about his
presentation on language diversity to the American Association for the
Advancement of Science in 2007.

Access full article below:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/29892/


From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Feb 17 19:03:13 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:03:13 -0600
Subject: Olympics being broadcast in Indigenous Languages in Canada!
In-Reply-To: <20091210005207.k89a8k0owcs04c4g@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.130313.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Check this link for the schedule of events for live broadcast on APTN 
Television in Canada

Broadcast includes:


http://www.aptn.ca/vancouver2010

APTN'S OLYMPIC VOICES
Languages in which sports will be broadcast:

English

French

Cree

Dene

Inuktitut

Mechif

Mi'kmaq

Mohawk

Ojibwa

Oji-Cree



ICE AND SNOW
Events that will be carried on APTN:

Opening and closing ceremonies

Hockey (men's and women's)

Curling

Speed skating

Figure skating

Biathlon

Freestyle skiing

Downhill skiing

Cross-country skiing

Snowboarding

Skeleton

Ski jumping



BY THE NUMBERS
APTN Olympics facts and figures:

Broadcast team: 138 people, in Winnipeg and Vancouver

On-air staff: 36 broadcasters/commentators

Hours of coverage: 214, in English, French and eight aboriginal languages

Budget: $2.5 million
 


From harveyd at SOU.EDU  Wed Feb 17 21:38:27 2010
From: harveyd at SOU.EDU (Dan Harvey)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:38:27 -0800
Subject: ELK: Cross platform key layout and font program
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.133827.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I am pleased to announce release of the ELK application (Extended Linguistic Keyboards). This project is an extension of ACORNS (Acquisition of Restored Native Speech), which is freeware software designed to support tribal efforts to support revitalization of language and culture. Its web-site is http://cs.sou.edu/~harveyd/elk 

The motivation for ELK is to enable language teachers to post language lessons to the Web or distribute them on CDs where language students do not have to install custom fonts or keyboard layouts. Unfortunately, there is not a standard mechanism for implementing keyboard layouts that works consistently on all computer platforms. For example, MAC computers use the .keylayout format which does not quite conform to the XML standard. Windows has an application MSKLC, but it creates relational database files that are compiled into a dynamic link library (DLL). Linux systems have a series of text files that work together to solve the problem. There are also other approaches, some commercial and some open source. As stated above, none of these work on all systems in a consistent manner.

ELK runs on any platform, and as such it allows users to create .keylayout files on any system. ACORNS uses this format to embed keyboard layouts into its applications. The project also provides an application interface that is usable by developers to provide similar capabilities in their software. ELK additionally includes a windows-based program (ElkKeyboards) that intercepts key strokes and applies .keylayout specifications to them.  ELK provides another useful and simple mechanism to create a .ttf fonts by dragging and dropping glyphs from a source .ttf file onto a virtual keyboard and clicking the save option.

This project provides the framework for platform-independent XML-based keyboard layout handling.  The software is open-source that can be downloaded and inspected. We welcome suggestions and developer contributions.

Regards,
Dan Harvey
Professor of Computer Science
Southern Oregon University
harveyd at sou.edu
http://cs.sou.edu/~harveyd


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:23:53 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:23:53 -0700
Subject: State settles Yup'ik language ballot lawsuit (UPDATED) (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.152353.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

State settles Yup'ik language ballot lawsuit (UPDATED)

Posted by thevillage
Posted: February 19, 2010 - 10:15 am
USA

The state has settled a lawsuit brought by Yup'ik elders and tribal
councils in Western Alaska demanding that the Division of Elections
provide ballots and other election materials in Yup'ik.

The Attorney General announced the settlement today. The Native
American Rights Fund and the American Civil Liberties Union filed the
suit in 2007, suing the state and the city of Bethel.

Access full article below:
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/148933


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:27:49 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:27:49 -0700
Subject: Critical Shortage of Sami Language Teachers (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.152749.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Critical Shortage of Sami Language Teachers
published Thu 05:41 PM, updated yesterday 10:30 AM

Access full article below:
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/02/critical_shortage_of_sami_language_teachers_1460131.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:30:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:30:13 -0700
Subject: Nuu-chah-nulth found (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.153013.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nuu-chah-nulth found

By Wawmeesh G. Hamilton - Alberni Valley News
Published: February 18, 2010 1:00 PM
British Columbia, CA

Dennis Bill, a teacher at AW Neill Middle School instructs a class of
23 boys and girls on how to pronounce words as he softly scrawls
letters in dark marker on a whiteboard.

“Chims,” he says. Chim-tuu.” The ‘ch’ sound is like that in ‘chapter,’ he adds.

The words are in the Nuu-chah-nulth language. Chims means bear, and
chimtuu squirrel.

Access full article below:
http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_central/albernivalleynews/news/84715892.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:32:22 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:32:22 -0700
Subject: Calling curling in Cree, Chinese (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.153222.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Friday, February 19, 2010

Calling curling in Cree, Chinese
By GEORGE KARRYS

Access full article below:
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/02/18/12925026-sun.html


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 19 22:46:12 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:46:12 -0700
Subject: Calling curling in Cree, Chinese (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002191432n186168fdgb53156ef6c5626d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.154612.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi all,

Tomorrow, February 20, 2010, one of the Metis languages called Michif by our
Elders will be used to announce an olympic skiing event.  I will be tuning
into APTN!  I hope you will be, too!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> Friday, February 19, 2010
>
> Calling curling in Cree, Chinese
> By GEORGE KARRYS
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/02/18/12925026-sun.html
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From jrgall01 at SYR.EDU  Sun Feb 21 01:35:43 2010
From: jrgall01 at SYR.EDU (Jason Robert Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.013543.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello:

My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional information about my project that you might need before you make a decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.   

All the best,

Jason Gallagher
Masters Candidate, Media Studies
Syracuse University


From resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU  Sun Feb 21 01:55:19 2010
From: resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU (Resa C Bizzaro)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:55:19 -0500
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
In-Reply-To: <ED6D38C2D6B2AF42A45BBC472A0F200D05A09B8B@BL2PRD0103MB041.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.205519.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi, Jason. What kind of student groups do you need?

Resa



On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
  Jason Robert Gallagher <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media 
>Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication 
>at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a 
>graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have 
>chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I 
>was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that 
>may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media 
>use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to 
>help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you 
>know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in 
>gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional 
>information about my project that you might need before you make a 
>decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon 
>your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear 
>back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been 
>reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been 
>waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I 
>always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or 
>unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.   
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jason Gallagher
> Masters Candidate, Media Studies
> Syracuse University


From jrgall01 at SYR.EDU  Sun Feb 21 02:01:11 2010
From: jrgall01 at SYR.EDU (Jason Robert Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:01:11 +0000
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
In-Reply-To: <web-10539993@embe1.iup.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.020111.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Resa:

I'm looking more for students that self identify as indigenous, First Nations, Metis, Inuit, Mestizo, or  Native American.
_______I_________________________________
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] on behalf of Resa C Bizzaro [resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU]
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:55 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Survey of Indigenous Online Use

Hi, Jason. What kind of student groups do you need?

Resa



On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
  Jason Robert Gallagher <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media
>Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication
>at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a
>graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have
>chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I
>was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that
>may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media
>use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to
>help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you
>know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in
>gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional
>information about my project that you might need before you make a
>decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon
>your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear
>back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been
>reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been
>waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I
>always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or
>unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jason Gallagher
> Masters Candidate, Media Studies
> Syracuse University


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb 21 02:53:31 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:53:31 -0700
Subject: Olympic Coverage in "Mechif".....
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.195331.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

I am watching the Olympic coverage in "Mechif" as I write this....

It is in Ile la Crosse Michif, which is a unique Metis dialect of CREE,
which is not the same as Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed language as
spoken in Manitoba, central and southern parts of Saskatchewan, North Dakota
and Montana.

There are three languages that our language/culture keepers--Elders from
different Metis communities-- call Michif.  One is Ile a la Crosse
(Metis-Cree dialect spoken in Northern Saskatchewan), another is Michif
French (a unique Metis dialect of French spoken in Metis communities in
Manitoba, Saskatchewan and perhaps elsewhere), and finally Michif (aka
Michif-Cree), the mixed language (well-known to linguists for being
typologically unique--with origins in both Algonquian and Indo-European
languages--mostly Cree and French).  The language called Michif and the two
dialects called Michif are all endangered and need support for their
revitalization.  However, Michif (aka Michif-Cree) is a language only spoken
by Metis people, is the most highly endangered (moribund) and if it
disappears it will be gone.  The situation is  unlike the dialects of Cree
or French called Michif.  We cannot go to our non-Metis relations (the Cree,
the Ojibwe, the French, or Scots, etc.) for help to try to reconstruct or
revive it.

Being that I live in a community that struggling to keep Michif
(Michif-Cree) alive, am an emerging speaker of Michif (Michif-Cree) and that
I am doing my MA on Michif (Michif-Cree) language and linguistics, I would
have wished that one of our fluent Michif (Michif-Cree) speakers (such as
Norman Fleury!)  would have been asked to announce....  Be that as it may,
at least the Olympics were announced in six languages and two Cree
dialects!

Just my two cents worth!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
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From hardman at UFL.EDU  Sun Feb 21 03:23:08 2010
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:23:08 -0500
Subject: Olympic Coverage in "Mechif".....
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002201853o623adec2wdde4e85fa27e7238@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.222308.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

How lovely!  I am so glad it has happened.  One step.

MJ

Dr. MJ Hardman
Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Perú
website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/



On 2/20/10 9:53 PM, "Heather Souter" <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Taanshi, 
> 
> I am watching the Olympic coverage in "Mechif" as I write this.... 
> 
> It is in Ile la Crosse Michif, which is a unique Metis dialect of CREE, which
> is not the same as Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed language as spoken in
> Manitoba, central and southern parts of Saskatchewan, North Dakota and
> Montana.  
> 
> There are three languages that our language/culture keepers--Elders from
> different Metis communities-- call Michif.  One is Ile a la Crosse (Metis-Cree
> dialect spoken in Northern Saskatchewan), another is Michif French (a unique
> Metis dialect of French spoken in Metis communities in Manitoba, Saskatchewan
> and perhaps elsewhere), and finally Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed
> language (well-known to linguists for being typologically unique--with origins
> in both Algonquian and Indo-European languages--mostly Cree and French).  The
> language called Michif and the two dialects called Michif are all endangered
> and need support for their revitalization.  However, Michif (aka Michif-Cree)
> is a language only spoken by Metis people, is the most highly endangered
> (moribund) and if it disappears it will be gone.  The situation is  unlike the
> dialects of Cree or French called Michif.  We cannot go to our non-Metis
> relations (the Cree, the Ojibwe, the French, or Scots, etc.) for help to try
> to reconstruct or revive it. 
> 
> Being that I live in a community that struggling to keep Michif (Michif-Cree)
> alive, am an emerging speaker of Michif (Michif-Cree) and that I am doing my
> MA on Michif (Michif-Cree) language and linguistics, I would have wished that
> one of our fluent Michif (Michif-Cree) speakers (such as Norman Fleury!) 
> would have been asked to announce....  Be that as it may, at least the
> Olympics were announced in six languages and two Cree dialects! 
> 
> Just my two cents worth!
> 
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather
> 

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From pmeyer8 at COX.NET  Sun Feb 21 06:49:51 2010
From: pmeyer8 at COX.NET (Paula Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:49:51 -0800
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.224951.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello, Jason,
        I cannot give you any people for your survey, but I am answering to 
tell you that a friend of mine, Constance Kampf, wrote her dissertation on 
your topic at the University of Minnesota.  I can't remember the title, but 
you should be able to find it from the U of Minnesota library.  Connie is 
now at Aarhus University in Denmark.  Her email address is:  cka at asb.dk.  I 
hope this is helpful.
Paula

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Robert Gallagher" <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU>
To: <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: [ILAT] Survey of Indigenous Online Use


Hello:

My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media Studies 
program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication at Syracuse 
University.  I am currently working on a project for a graduate class that 
concludes with a publishable paper.  I have chosen the topic of indigenous 
use of Internet generated media.  I was wondering if I could have access to 
a group   of students that may be interested in taking a brief internet 
based survey about media use in order to gather data for my project.  Would 
you be able to help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do 
you know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in 
gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional 
information about my project that you might need before you make a decision, 
I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon your request. 
Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear back from you soon.  I 
enjoy all the discussion that I have been reading over the last couple of 
months on this forum, and I have been waiting for a moment when I could 
contribute to the discussion.  I always fear that I'm going to come off a 
little overeager, or unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that 
soon.

All the best,

Jason Gallagher
Masters Candidate, Media Studies
Syracuse University 


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 17:51:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:51:30 -0700
Subject: Linguists Scramble To Save The World's Languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.105130.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Linguists Scramble To Save The World's Languages

February 21, 2010
By Richard Solash

Radio Free Europe

When Doctor Gregory Anderson and Doctor K. David Harrison set off in
2003 to a few remote villages in Russia's eastern Tomsk Oblast, they
took only the bare essentials: toothbrushes, socks, soap, plus their
microphones, video cameras, audio recorders, and linguistics
textbooks.

What brought them to this isolated corner of central Siberia was a
business conference -- of sorts: a series of meetings with the less
than 25 remaining speakers of Middle Chulym, or Os.

Anderson and Harrison are the two linguists behind the Living Tongues
Institute for Endangered Languages. A U.S.-based nonprofit, it is one
of a handful of initiatives spearheaded by linguists who are
scrambling to save the world's endangered tongues. Experts predict
that by the end of the century, half of the world's 6,700 languages
will be extinct.

Access full article below:
http://www.rferl.org/content/Linguists_Scramble_To_Save_The_Worlds_Languages/1964101.html

Article contains media sample of Vasiliy Gabov speaking Middle Chulym.


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:04:38 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:04:38 -0700
Subject: Native Dancing Ban Lifted in Alaska Village (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.110438.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native Dancing Ban Lifted in Alaska Village

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: February 21, 2010
Filed at 12:00 p.m. ET
USA

NOORVIK, Alaska (AP) -- Bobby Wells has lived all his life in this
remote Alaska village, where the Eskimo dancing of his ancestors was
banned by Quaker missionaries a century ago as primitive idolatry.

Now Wells, 53, and other residents of Noorvik have wholeheartedly
embraced the ancient practice outlawed in the Inupiat Eskimo
settlement, which was established in 1914. Wells, the mayor, said
dancing is not just for the ancient religious practice of shamanism as
the missionaries had believed. It's also a form of worship dating back
to the Bible, a view now held by many in the community of 650.

''This is the way God made us, to express our thankfulness to him with
dancing,'' Wells said.

Access full article below:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/02/21/us/AP-US-Reclaiming-Native-Tradition.html?_r=1


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:07:17 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:07:17 -0700
Subject: Virginia Beavert keeping Sahaptin language alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.110717.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

POSTED ON Saturday, February 20, 2010 AT 10:17PM

Virginia Beavert keeping Sahaptin language alive

BY PAT MUIR
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
USA

YAKIMA, Wash. -- There are only about 200 or so remaining Sahaptin
speakers, and there may never be another as fluent as 88-year-old
Virginia Beavert.

But Sahaptin, a general term for the language that includes the Yakama
dialect, will live on.

Beavert herself has assured that with the Ichishkiin Sinwit
Yakama/Yakima Sahaptin Dictionary, which will be released next month
by the University of Washington Press.

The translation dictionary, which she co-wrote with University of
Washington linguistics professor Sharon Hargus, comes with a CD of
Beavert pronouncing 9,830 Sahaptin words and phrases.

Access full article below:
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2010/02/20/virginia-beavert-keeping-sahaptin-language-alive


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:12:03 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:12:03 -0700
Subject: Native leader critical of efforts to preserve language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111203.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native leader critical of efforts to preserve language

By MARY ELLEN MacINTYRE Truro Bureau
Sat. Feb 20 - 4:54 AM
Noca Scotia, Canada

MILLBROOK — A Millbrook First Nation band councillor has chastised the
federal government and the Catholic Church for failing to help Mi’kmaq
people preserve their language.

"It’s a sorry state of affairs when two years ago the Prime Minister
of Canada apologized to (the) First Nations. The leaders in Parliament
said ‘sorry you lost everything’ but no one stood up to say we’ll help
restore your language," Lloyd Johnson said Friday.

"And the same can be said about the Catholic Church. Did they stand up
to help restore the language? No, they didn’t. And if the United
Church of Canada did, they should."

Access full article below:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1168593.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:14:40 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:14:40 -0700
Subject: Khurshid calls for preservation of languages after UNESCO report
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Khurshid calls for preservation of languages after UNESCO report

Feb 21
India

Minister for Minority Affairs, Mr. Salman Khurshid has called for the
preservation and promotion of languages belonging to linguistic
minorities in view of the UNESCO report that in India 126 languages
are in danger of disappearing.

Access full article below:
http://www.newsonair.com/news.asp?cat=national&id=NN3030


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:16:20 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:16:20 -0700
Subject: Mother tongues nurture sense of cultural identity (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111620.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Mother tongues nurture sense of cultural identity

Unesco marks International Mother Language Day on Sunday. The day has
been observed since 2000, and aims to promote "linguistic and cultural
diversity and multilingualism", according to un.org.

By Shweta Satyan, Community Solutions Editor
Published: 00:00 February 21, 2010

Access full article below:
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/mother-tongues-nurture-sense-of-cultural-identity-1.585951


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:20:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:20:13 -0700
Subject: More than 248 native languages face serious risk of extinction in
 Latin America (fwd)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.112013.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Published: Saturday, February 20, 2010
Bylined to: Jennifer Ross

More than 248 native languages face serious risk of extinction in Latin America

PRESS RELEASE
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=88629

On International Mother Language Day, the regional representation for
South and Central America of the United Nations Office of the High
Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) stresses the need for effective
measures to halt the extinction of native languages across the region,
as well as to encourage their use.

The opportunity to use and transmit beliefs and traditions in one's
mother tongue represents not only a cultural right, but an essential
tool for ensuring knowledge of human rights. According to UNESCO, 90%
of the world's languages will disappear in the next 100 years.

South America is one of the most linguistically diverse regions in the
world. According to the UNESCO Interactive Atlas of the World's
Languages in Danger, there are more than 248 languages in Latin
America that are currently considered severely or critically
endangered, including: 14 in Argentina, 4 in Belize, 35 in Bolivia,
178 in Brazil, 8 in Costa Rica, 6 in Chile, 64 in Colombia, 12 in
Ecuador, 1 in El Salvador, 23 in Guatemala, 7 in Honduras, 143 in
Mexico, 8 in Nicaragua, 8 in Panama, 12 in Paraguay, 57 in Peru, 1 in
Uruguay, and 34 in Venezuela.

The Regional Offices of the OHCHR stress the urgency to adopt measures
to implement national and regional linguistic policies. At the same
time, they call on States to encourage intercultural bilingual
education as well as the production of digital contents in native
languages.

The Regional Offices of the OHCHR point out that such rights are
enshrined in Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, The
ILO's Convention No. 169 on Indigenous and Tribal Peoples, and the
Convention on the Rights of the Child, which recognize the right of
indigenous people to use, revitalize, stimulate and preserve their
language.

These instruments establish the responsibility of States to adopt
measures to ensure access for indigenous peoples to education in their
own culture and language, as well as their responsibility to adopt
effective measures to protect and guarantee the exercise of such
rights in political, judicial and administrative instances.

Jennifer Ross
JRoss at ohchr.org


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb 22 19:07:26 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:07:26 -0700
Subject: More Than 1 Billion Speakers of Endangered Languages Get Access
 to Technology (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.22.FEB.2010.120726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

More Than 1 Billion Speakers of Endangered Languages Get Access to Technology
Microsoft Local Language Program announces new initiatives to provide
technology access, helping to grow local economies.

REDMOND, Wash., Feb. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- It is estimated that
every 14 days a language dies. This means that during the Winter
Olympic Games, currently happening in Vancouver, B.C., one more of the
more than 7,000 languages spoken on Earth — many of them not yet
recorded — will disappear, taking with it centuries of knowledge about
history, culture and the natural environment. Half of those languages
are expected to disappear by the end of this century.

Access full article below:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/more-than-1-billion-speakers-of-endangered-languages-get-access-to-technology-84937407.html


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Mon Feb 22 21:59:19 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:59:19 +1100
Subject: Mother Language Day news
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.085919.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers and RNLDers (apologies to those on both lists),

There's been a lot of language in the news over the past few days as Mother
Language Day events have taken place around the world. I've added about 30
links to articles on the RNLD Language In the
News<http://www.rnld.org/node/98>page. Jane Simpson has posted a nice
blog <http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/elac/> about IMLD on the Transient Languages
blog with various links to other stories.

cheers,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From saxon at UVIC.CA  Tue Feb 23 17:33:46 2010
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:33:46 -0800
Subject: Certificate In Aboriginal Language Revitalization instructors:
 call for expressions of interest
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002221107r1d21c264ocf4c19cad5f55bc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.093346.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The Certificate In Aboriginal Language Revitalization (CALR) of the En'owkin Centre and the University of Victoria is anticipating starting new community-based cohort programs in BC and northern Canada. Attached please find a call for expressions of interest in teaching in these programs. Excerpt from the call below. The URL for our program is here:
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/aspnet/Program/Detail/?code=BHATI

and for information on courses, here:
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/languages/courses/calr/

There is a growing need in the province [of BC, and more generally] for community-based Indigenous language
programming, and more communities are interested in offering language revitalization courses in
their own communities. The Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization is seeking
expressions of interest from qualified instructors to join our existing cohort of experienced
instructors to expand offerings to meet demand. If you specialize in Indigenous language
teaching, linguistic structures, language curriculum development and programming and /or
revitalization and are interested in teaching in this program, please send us your CV and a
covering letter outlining your experience and interest in teaching in the program and specify
which courses (and locations) you feel you are best suited to teach. While a minimum of an
Undergraduate degree is required to teach, Graduate degrees are preferred.
_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/


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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 17:43:01 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:43:01 -0700
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.104301.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Making technology speak your language

Tuesday, 23 February 2010
UK

Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
globe access technology in their own languages.

According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
knowledge.

Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
die out by the end of the 21st century.

Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
dominant languages used in the computing world.

UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
native languages are not lost.

Access full article below:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From mrb1 at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 18:33:11 2010
From: mrb1 at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Maxine Rose Baptiste)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:33:11 -0800
Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Ab Lang Revit instructor call]
In-Reply-To: <35633.24.129.235.56.1266949338.squirrel@cluster.abccomm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.103311.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <language at vip.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Subject: [Fwd: Ab Lang Revit instructor call]
To: mrb1 at email.arizona.edu


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Ab Lang Revit instructor call
From:    "Aliki Marinakis" <aliki at uvic.ca>
Date:    Mon, February 22, 2010 3:28 pm
To:      "Aliki Marinakis" <aliki at uvic.ca>
Cc:      "Brenda Weatherston" <bweather at uvic.ca>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Language champions, I hope this finds you well.   Please pass this call
for expressions of interest along to anyone you think may be interested in
teaching in this Indigenous Language Revitalization program.  Attached
here in Word and PDF.
Thank you very much!


------------------------------
Aliki Marinakis
University of Victoria
Indigenous language programs coordinator
250-721-7855

Certificate Program in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
UVIC Continuing Studies & Department of Linguistics & En'owkin Centre
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr

Indigenous Education
Faculty of Education
http://www.educ.uvic.ca
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 20:14:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:14:45 -0700
Subject: International Mother Language Day (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.131445.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

International Mother Language Day: 21 February 2010
http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=40278&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html


From dave_pearson at SIL.ORG  Tue Feb 23 21:33:41 2010
From: dave_pearson at SIL.ORG (Dave Pearson)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:33:41 -0000
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002230943i4ff82a93wcb3c38a4b8c3a6e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.213341.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris listening to a French Internet expert describing the “war” Google and Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet. Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things they are doing to ensure their presence! 

Dave Pearson
SIL International

-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)

Making technology speak your language

Tuesday, 23 February 2010
UK

Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
globe access technology in their own languages.

According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
knowledge.

Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
die out by the end of the 21st century.

Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
dominant languages used in the computing world.

UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
native languages are not lost.

Access full article below:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From tetaka at CS.WAIKATO.AC.NZ  Tue Feb 23 22:04:09 2010
From: tetaka at CS.WAIKATO.AC.NZ (Te Taka Keegan)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:04:09 +1300
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <000a01cab4cf$e64e1fb0$b2ea5f10$@org>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.110409.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I'd be really interested to hear about the "war" Google and Microsoft are
waging against the presence of languages on the Internet. Any chance you can
summarise what was said?

Thanks heaps

Te Taka Keegan

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Dave Pearson <dave_pearson at sil.org> wrote:

> Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris
> listening to a French Internet expert describing the “war” Google and
> Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet.
> Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building
> listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things they
> are doing to ensure their presence!
>
> Dave Pearson
> SIL International
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
>
> Making technology speak your language
>
> Tuesday, 23 February 2010
> UK
>
> Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
> globe access technology in their own languages.
>
> According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
> on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
> forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
> traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
> knowledge.
>
> Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
> die out by the end of the 21st century.
>
> Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
> inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
> isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
> dominant languages used in the computing world.
>
> UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
> native languages are not lost.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html
>



-- 
nāku noa nei, nā

Te Taka

--------------
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Pukenga Matua   [Senior Lecturer]
Tari Rorohiko       [Computer Science Dept]
Whare Wananga o Waikato [University of Waikato]
Waea:  (07) 838 4420    Ph: (07) 838 4420
http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~tetaka
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From dzo at BISHARAT.NET  Wed Feb 24 03:26:29 2010
From: dzo at BISHARAT.NET (Don Osborn)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:26:29 +0300
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <000a01cab4cf$e64e1fb0$b2ea5f10$@org>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.062629.0300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dave, Phil, all,

It is an unusual state of affairs but likely due to the size of the organizations? (In which some parts work at counterpurposes to others on issues less central to the organization functioning?) Some of the people high in the Unicode consortium are in Google and MS (despite publicity sometimes way out in front of reality) has done some significant things wrt expanding character ranges of fonts for example. 

Don't forget open source in the mix, which traditionally has had a lot more going on for more languages even if the coverage is uneven and updates sometimes lag (function of user driven model in cases of some less widely spoken languages).

Is the "war" the French expert spoke of really focused on internationalized domain names (IDN)? Or languages as a whole? Reasons given?

Thanks...

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:34 AM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
> 
> Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris
> listening to a French Internet expert describing the “war” Google and
> Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet.
> Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building
> listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things
> they are doing to ensure their presence!
> 
> Dave Pearson
> SIL International
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
> 
> Making technology speak your language
> 
> Tuesday, 23 February 2010
> UK
> 
> Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
> globe access technology in their own languages.
> 
> According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
> on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
> forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
> traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
> knowledge.
> 
> Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
> die out by the end of the 21st century.
> 
> Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
> inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
> isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
> dominant languages used in the computing world.
> 
> UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
> native languages are not lost.
> 
> Access full article below:
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-
> technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From saxon at UVIC.CA  Wed Feb 24 19:13:24 2010
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:13:24 -0800
Subject: FW: Urgent call:  Language Nest Workshop
In-Reply-To: <C7AAB979.83C1%aliki@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.111324.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please see below for a call for facilitators for a Language Nest Workship taking place in Kamloops, BC at the end of March, 2010.

_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/



------ Forwarded Message
From: Aliki Marinakis <aliki at uvic.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:09:43 -0800
To: Aliki Marinakis <aliki at uvic.ca>
Cc: Deanna Daniels <deanna at fphlcc.ca>
Subject: Urgent call:  Language Nest Workshop

Hello all,

Deanna Daniels from First Peoples' Heritage, Language, and Culture Council asked that I forward this on to anyone who might be interested, or know someone who would be interested in facilitating this workshop.  Please distribute widely!

Call attached.

Thank you!!

-------------------------------
Aliki Marinakis
University of Victoria
Indigenous Language Programs Coordinator Trish.Rosborough at gov.bc.ca
250-721-7855

Indigenous Education
Faculty of Education
http://www.educ.uvic.ca

Certificate Program in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
UVIC Continuing Studies & Department of Linguistics & En'owkin
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 24 20:31:01 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:31:01 -0700
Subject: Tribe develops language immersion program (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.133101.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tribe develops language immersion program

Published: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:31 AM EST
By Lynn Fischer
Sun Special Writer
USA

The Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe is revitalizing their native
language within their community.

In hopes of preserving the Anishinaabe language, the tribe has
developed a new language immersion program from the ground up.

Rhonda Hopkins, Anishinaabe Language Revitalization Department
Director for the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe, grew up speaking this
indigenous language.

I didnt learn English until I was 6 years old, Hopkins said. She was
raised on an Indian reservation on Manitoulin Island in Ontario,
Canada.

Hopkins said the language is in danger and revitalization is necessary.

Access full article below:
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2010/02/24/life/srv0000007684945.txt


From whalen at HASKINS.YALE.EDU  Wed Feb 24 22:21:10 2010
From: whalen at HASKINS.YALE.EDU (Doug Whalen)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:21:10 -0500
Subject: Grant Writing Manual for Language Work
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.172110.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear all,
The Endangered Language Fund is pleased to announce the availability  
of the handbook entitled "Grant Writing for Indigenous Languages," by  
Ofelia Zepeda and Susan Penfield.  It is aimed primarily at U.S.  
tribes seeking U.S. funds, so we hope this will be of use to  
subscribers of this list.  Please feel free to make use of this  
document, within limits of the copyright retained by the Arizona Board  
of Regents on behalf of the University of Arizona.  The manual can be  
found at:
http://www.endangeredlanguagefund.org/pdf/grant_writing.pdf
If you are not a tribal member but work with a tribe, please pass this  
information along to those who might be interested.
Doug Whalen DhW, President, ELF

Douglas H. Whalen, President
Endangered Language Fund
300 George St., Suite 900
New Haven, CT  06511
USA
+1-203-865-6163, ext. 265 (or 234 for whalen)
elf at endangeredlanguagefund.org


From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Wed Feb 24 22:35:20 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:35:20 -0500
Subject: Grant Writing Manual for Language Work
In-Reply-To: <E5756B53-EBEF-4B78-A6C1-86512445802E@HASKINS.YALE.EDU>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.173520.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is marvelous! What a wonderful resource. Thank you Drs Zepeda and
Penfield for writing it and making it freely available!
Claire

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Doug Whalen <whalen at haskins.yale.edu>wrote:

> Dear all,
> The Endangered Language Fund is pleased to announce the availability of the
> handbook entitled "Grant Writing for Indigenous Languages," by Ofelia Zepeda
> and Susan Penfield.  It is aimed primarily at U.S. tribes seeking U.S.
> funds, so we hope this will be of use to subscribers of this list.  Please
> feel free to make use of this document, within limits of the copyright
> retained by the Arizona Board of Regents on behalf of the University of
> Arizona.  The manual can be found at:
> http://www.endangeredlanguagefund.org/pdf/grant_writing.pdf
> If you are not a tribal member but work with a tribe, please pass this
> information along to those who might be interested.
> Doug Whalen DhW, President, ELF
>
> Douglas H. Whalen, President
> Endangered Language Fund
> 300 George St., Suite 900
> New Haven, CT  06511
> USA
> +1-203-865-6163, ext. 265 (or 234 for whalen)
> elf at endangeredlanguagefund.org
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb 25 22:48:39 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:48:39 -0700
Subject: Athabascan linguist, tradition bearer Katherine Peter dies (fwd)
Message-ID: <THU.25.FEB.2010.154839.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Athabascan linguist, tradition bearer Katherine Peter dies

by Mary Beth Smetzer / msmetzer at newsminer.com
USA

FAIRBANKS — Athabascan tradition bearer Katherine Peter died early
Wednesday morning at home in Fairbanks.

Throughout her life Katherine, 92, shared her vast store of
traditional knowledge, skills and experience in a myriad of ways, most
notably through her work at the Alaska Native Language Center at the
University of Alaska Fairbanks.

Access full article below:
http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/6459797/article-Athabascan-linguist--tradition-bearer-Katherine-Peter-dies-?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1


From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Sat Feb 27 03:10:52 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:10:52 -1000
Subject: New NFLRC publications
Message-ID: <FRI.26.FEB.2010.171052.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha!  The National Foreign Language Resource Center (NFLRC) is pleased to 
announce its newest publication:

"Research Among Learners of Chinese as a Foreign Language" (Michael E. Everson 
& Helen H. Shen, editors)

Cutting-edge in its approach and international in its authorship, this fourth 
monograph in a series sponsored by the Chinese Language Teachers Association 
features eight research studies that explore a variety of themes, topics, and 
perspectives important to a variety of stakeholders in the Chinese language 
learning community. Employing a wide range of research methodologies, the 
volume provides data from actual Chinese language learners and will be of value 
to both theoreticians and practitioners alike. [in English & Chinese]


Other new NFLRC publications:

"Toward Useful Program Evaluation in College Foreign Language Education" (John 
M. Norris, John McE. Davis, Castle Sinicrope, & Yukiko Watanabe, editors)

"Second Language Teaching and Learning in the Net Generation" (Raquel Oxford & 
Jeffrey Oxford, editors)



For more information on these and other NFLRC publications, visit:

http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/publications.cfm



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    F          University of Hawai'i
     L         1859 East-West Road, #106
      R        Honolulu HI 96822
       C       voice: (808) 956-9424, fax: (808) 956-5983
               email: nflrc at hawaii.edu
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From thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU  Sat Feb 27 12:50:04 2010
From: thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Nick Thieberger)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:50:04 +1100
Subject: A Cultural Revival - The spirit of Japan's Ainu artists
In-Reply-To: <b66308511002270448p12d41445nd2bcd9b432ee9819@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.FEB.2010.235004.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126699701149750779.html

By LUCY BIRMINGHAM

Koji Yuki was 20 years old when he turned against his father and
buried his Ainu identity. That was the year Shoji Yuki died; a radical
activist, he had long fought to win legal rights for the Ainu, Japan's
underclass, and have them recognized as an indigenous people. More
than a century of government-backed racial and social discrimination
and forced assimilation had stripped the once-proud hunter-gatherers
and tradesmen of their identity and livelihood.


Singer Mina Sakai performs new works in the Ainu language (as well as
in Japanese and English), accompanying herself on an amplified
tonkori. The Ainu people's only stringed instrument, it was used
originally by shamans to communicate with the kamuy, or spirits in
nature.

The Ainu cause had torn apart the Yuki family. "My father divorced my
mother when I was young and devoted himself to the Ainu liberation
movement," says Mr. Yuki. "I couldn't understand the way he lived his
life."

Years later, Mr. Yuki changed his mind about his father's efforts, and
today the son is himself a powerful voice for the Ainu. But he speaks
through culture rather than politics, as one of the leaders of a
remarkable revival of Ainu arts, dance and music -- with a cool,
contemporary edge.


From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Mon Feb  1 18:12:37 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:12:37 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.121237.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

"First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of  
the Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of  
the Fund honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which  
manifests self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the  
cultural fabric of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of  
us to stand up and make a difference, to pass on the ancestral  
knowledge or simply extend a hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier  
(Oglala Lakota),President"

Among the winners;

Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot  
songs for children.

Congratulations. Nina waste'.

Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?



_______________________
Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies, LLC

Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
763-219-1696

Indian Treaty Signers Project
Martin Case, Director
5001 1/2 34th Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

http://www.alliesmediaart.com











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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Mon Feb  1 19:08:41 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:08:41 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <BB57FB69-6ECE-4F82-8C81-3019A61CF416@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.130841.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

kweh Mona,
tizham?h! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!

after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the arm.
I-my-arm-*grab!*
I-my-arm-*shake!*
*they love it! and don't even realize they are *
*getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
*which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*

too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!

ske:noh
Richard

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com> wrote:

> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>
> Among the winners;
>
> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot songs
> for children.*
>
> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>
> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>
>
>
> _______________________
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> *Allies, LLC *
>
> *Allies: media/art*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *763-219-1696*
>
> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
> *Martin Case, Director*
> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
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>
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Mon Feb  1 19:34:47 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:34:47 -0700
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <dea1eec81002011108x3d7564c1i362cc96f2e5596e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.123447.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi, Richard!

Congratulations!

It is always delightful to hear about how you are using ways to teach
language that allows learners to discover the grammar for themselves!  This
is a wonderful approach for all learners/emerging speakers and not just
those in an early education setting.   I have composed a little song to help
teach the different verbs for eat (Animate intransitive, Transitive
Inanimate and Transitive Animate) in our language Michif.  The people who
have learned it start to intuitively understand the differences....  I just
wish I was a better singer and songwriter, LOL!  Any tips?!

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
Heather

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:

> kweh Mona,
> tizham?h! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!
>
> after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
> I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the arm.
> I-my-arm-*grab!*
> I-my-arm-*shake!*
> *they love it! and don't even realize they are *
> *getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
> *which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*
>
> too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:
>
>> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
>> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
>> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
>> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
>> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
>> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
>> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>>
>> Among the winners;
>>
>> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot
>> songs for children.*
>>
>> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>>
>> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________
>> Mona M. Smith
>> media artist/producer/director
>> *Allies, LLC *
>>
>> *Allies: media/art*
>> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>> *763-219-1696*
>>
>> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
>> *Martin Case, Director*
>> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>>
>> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From okimah at MAC.COM  Mon Feb  1 20:12:22 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul M Rickard)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:12:22 -0500
Subject: Taiwan indigenous languages
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.151222.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wondering if anyone had any contacts with the Taiwan indigenous  
languages.

I am heading to Taiwan on a conference, but while there I wanted to  
see and perhaps meet some people working with the indigenous language  
of that country.  I am going to Tiapei for the conference but plan to  
travel the northern part of the island as well.

I can be reached through my personal email at:  okimah at mac.com

Thanks.  Paul


From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Tue Feb  2 00:21:16 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:21:16 -0600
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002011134x34e6d13bof39aac764155198a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.1.FEB.2010.182116.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Heather!
sounds like you have my similar approach to teaching
helping children to learn without them knowing they are being taught!

tips on singing?  hmmm....thats a tough one! can't help ya there!
awww...i don't think i it takes a *good singer* to sing and get kids
excited.
I think it *does* require a degree of personal koo-koo-craziness. [?]
and not being afraid of being caught acting silly. That and
 a strong inner conviction that if they really learn this silly thing
they'll never forget it. It will be stuck in their head if they need "that
word"
or that sentence structure or whatever.
i guess
for me, most songs sort of evolve over a period of time
but then some die and just get tossed back into the pile of notes.....
some songs come from simply  repeating over and over certain sentences,
using and exaggerating aspirations, nasals and glottal stops.
sometimes the language will just sing itself into being..... and those are
the best.
I don't use any known or established tunes but just let the water drum and
sentences
kind of point the way. But i'm also learning and singing many traditional
songs
which i think might help me to maintain some kind of direction...but who
knows!

ske:noh
Richard


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Taanshi, Richard!
>
> Congratulations!
>
> It is always delightful to hear about how you are using ways to teach
> language that allows learners to discover the grammar for themselves!  This
> is a wonderful approach for all learners/emerging speakers and not just
> those in an early education setting.   I have composed a little song to help
> teach the different verbs for eat (Animate intransitive, Transitive
> Inanimate and Transitive Animate) in our language Michif.  The people who
> have learned it start to intuitively understand the differences....  I just
> wish I was a better singer and songwriter, LOL!  Any tips?!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.  That is it for now.
> Heather
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> kweh Mona,
>> tizham?h! (thanks!) yes! i am planning to come! it should be fun!
>>
>> after teaching pre-schoolers this morning  practicing their "arm song"
>> I'm introducing them to "incorporating *verbs*" for the parts of the
>> arm.
>> I-my-arm-*grab!*
>> I-my-arm-*shake!*
>> *they love it! and don't even realize they are *
>> *getting a technical lesson in basic-wendat/iroquoian linguistics*
>> *which of course should be the whole point in early education,anyway...*
>>
>> too fun listening to them laugh and shaking or grabbing their little arms!
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:
>>
>>> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of the
>>> Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of the Fund
>>> honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which manifests
>>> self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain the cultural fabric
>>> of a community.  " It is that which moves each one of us to stand up and
>>> make a difference, to pass on the ancestral knowledge or simply extend a
>>> hand of grnerosity", says Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>>>
>>> Among the winners;
>>>
>>> *Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot
>>> songs for children.*
>>>
>>> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>>>
>>> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________
>>> Mona M. Smith
>>> media artist/producer/director
>>> *Allies, LLC *
>>>
>>> *Allies: media/art*
>>> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
>>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>>> *763-219-1696*
>>>
>>> *Indian Treaty Signers Project*
>>> *Martin Case, Director*
>>> *5001 1/2 34th Ave. South*
>>> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
>>> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>>>
>>> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 17:54:27 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:54:27 -0600
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.115427.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit)
focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of
Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out
into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our
languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the
programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in
Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when
global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program
being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things
go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so
important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality
I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful
I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to
promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have
names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their
languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain
their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to
me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and
will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 18:08:35 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:08:35 -0600
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.120835.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi kihtwaam!  Hello, again!

I have been thinking about doing an internet radio program for Michif for a
long while....  I even have an account set up at Blogtalk Radio but haven't
really done anything with it yet.  I also set up an Ning site for Michif
sometime ago but that never went anywhere either....  However, Phil's recent
post talking about an Ning site and my friend's new radio show have gotten
me thinking again....  Perhaps I wasn't meant to try to do these things in
isolation?!  (Dah!)  Perhaps, we could do something as a community?  Not
just for Michif, of course, but for all our languages--or at least those of
people who want to get involved.

Now, I am not a digital Native nor do I really "like" technology (sorry!).
(I like it for what it can do but I don't really like messing around with
the nuts and bolts!  LOL!)  However, I am hoping that there is someone out
there who does and would be willing to get involved. ( Like Phil mentioned
in an earlier email, perhaps an MA or PhD candidate?)

So, here is the dream....  What  if WE started an Internet radio program
(with call in, etc.!--on Blogtalk Radio?) so that we could present our
ideas/talks/papers/interviews to a wider audience...?  The program could
even be "broadcast" and the podcasts moved to an site like Ning where access
could be managed if/when necessary (at the request of the speaker, an elder,
a band or tribal council, etc.) (Of course, the podcast could even be given
to the carriers/owners of the knowledge shared and the original destroyed if
so asked.)   What if we had an Ning site we could put up videos as well and
even have chat sessions when if we wanted to get together...?  I am almost
positive that Elluminate! (head office in Calgary, Alberta, close to here!)
would be willing to give us access to a  virtual classroom  when we could do
webcasts, have meetings, etc....

My sense is that many others may have dreamed or are dreaming in a similar
way.  I believe our dreams can show us the way....

Thanks for reading this and listening to me.

Eekoshi.
Heather
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From okimah at MAC.COM  Tue Feb  2 18:12:25 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul M Rickard)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:12:25 -0500
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.131225.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Heather

Here is Quebec there a few artists who sing in their language.   
CerAmony is one rock groups that sing both in Cree and English who  
reside in Montreal. You can follow them on twitter (search for  
CerAmony) as well as a Myspace website.  There is also Samian who  
raps in French and Algonquain.  In Ontario there is Lawrence Martin  
who does sing in Cree.... he's also the mayor of Cochrance, Ontario.

There is a huge group of French and Innu singers from Eastern Quebec  
such as Florent Vallont (of course) as well as Kadia Rock and others.

There are a couple of music tv series/shows currently airing on APTN  
in Canada, you should visit www.aptn.ca  to see who has been featured  
on those shows to get an idea of who is singing in their own language.

Paul



On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Heather Souter wrote:

> Taanshi,
>
> A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/ 
> perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of  
> Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our  
> languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the  
> possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short  
> interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung  
> in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and  
> those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues  
> are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program  
> being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how  
> things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually  
> happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.   
> However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming  
> to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting  
> to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/ 
> cultures!
>
> So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or   
> you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who  
> sing in their languages and information about how we could contact  
> them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook,  
> youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.   
> ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if  
> she wants to join ILAT.)
>
> Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
> Heather
>
>
>
>
>


From pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET  Tue Feb  2 18:13:26 2010
From: pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET (phil cash cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:13:26 -0700
Subject: Congrats to Richard Zane Smith on the Community Spirit Award
In-Reply-To: <BB57FB69-6ECE-4F82-8C81-3019A61CF416@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.111326.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My congrats added to Mona's!  It soo cool we have such a talented/ 
committed group here on ILAT.

Phil Cash Cash
UofA


On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Mona Smith wrote:

> "First Peoples Fund is honored to announce this year's recipients of  
> the Jennifer Easton Community Spirit Award. This flagship program of  
> the Fund honors artists who embody Collective Spirit, that which  
> manifests self-awareness and a sense of responsibility, to sustain  
> the cultural fabric of a community.  " It is that which moves each  
> one of us to stand up and make a difference, to pass on the  
> ancestral knowledge or simply extend a hand of grnerosity", says  
> Lori Pourier (Oglala Lakota),President"
>
> Among the winners;
>
> Richard Smith, Wyandot - Oklahoma City, Clay, Storytelling, Wyandot  
> songs for children.
>
> Congratulations. Nina waste'.
>
> Will you come to Minneapolis for the award ceremony?
>
>
>
> _______________________
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> Allies, LLC
>
> Allies: media/art
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> 763-219-1696
>
> Indian Treaty Signers Project
> Martin Case, Director
> 5001 1/2 34th Ave. South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> indiantreatysigners at gmail.com
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


From deanna.kingston at OREGONSTATE.EDU  Tue Feb  2 18:17:41 2010
From: deanna.kingston at OREGONSTATE.EDU (Kingston, Deanna)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 10:17:41 -0800
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.101741.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Heather,
This is not exactly what you've requested, but it's similar and may help your friend.  In Nome, Alaska, KNOM (and I think KICY, but I don't listen to that one) is a volunteer-run "mission" radio station.  They are affiliated with the Catholic Church and Catholics from all over the nation come to live in Nome for a year or more to run the station.  My community converted to Catholicism (while retaining many of their own traditions) in the early 20th century, so almost all King Islanders listen to KNOM.

The reason why I bring this up is that KNOM has done a wonderful job in incorporating local Alaska Native music into their programming.  It's a cool station - you might hear Classic Rock, then the King Islanders singing their shaman song, then country, then the St. Lawrence Islanders singing something.  They also do all the usual news and weather, etc.  Anyway, they may be someone to contact in terms of how they have handled gaining permission to play the indigenous music (usually the music was recorded at a public event) and as a volunteer station, KNOM doesn't make money, so King Islanders and others allow their songs to be played.  Here's the website:  http://www.knom.org/.

I just looked at their website and they do have audio files of Alaska Native music on the site . . . maybe it's something to look at.
Deanna


On 2/2/10 9:54 AM, "Heather Souter" <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather






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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:14:15 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:14:15 -0700
Subject: The Canadiens lost, but Inuktitut scored a win (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.121415.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The Canadiens lost, but Inuktitut scored a win

THE GAZETTE FEBRUARY 2, 2010
 Canada

Saturday's game between the Canadiens and the Ottawa Senators marked
the first time Inuktitut was used for a hockey play-by-play broadcast.

The CBC project wasn't totally smooth sailing. The announcers used the
Inuit word for fishing net to describe the hockey net. And northern
fans without satellite or cable had to listen on radio while watching
on broadcast TV, the Globe and Mail reported.

But one way or another thousands of Inuit across the territories and
northern Quebec had a chance to watch a game in their own language. It
was a fine initiative. Too bad it was a one-time project, and won't -
not soon, anyway - be a staple of Inuit life.

Access full article below:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Canadiens+lost+Inuktitut+scored/2511439/story.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:20:48 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:20:48 -0700
Subject: Indigenous verse back on agenda (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.122048.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

1 February, 2010 7:57PM AEDT
Australia

Indigenous verse back on agenda

By Jonathan Atkins

Should Australia's national anthem include an Indigenous verse?

The idea has been around for sometime but former senator Aiden
Ridgeway has again raised the question about adding an Indigenous
verse to our national anthem.

Mr Ridgeway believes, "Most people seem to think the anthem is a
little on the dull side so I think we need to do something more to
bring it to life and give it connection back to country and that place
being Australia."

Gumbaynggirr elder Ken Walker and the Muurrbay Aboriginal Language and
Culture Co-operative have taken up the challenge.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/02/01/2806929.htm?site=northcoast


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 19:29:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:29:30 -0700
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.122930.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

To add on to this discussion, here is a nice link to consider.
~~

Taiwan Journey Part 4: Aboriginal Sounds in Taiwan with Inka Mbing and Totem

By Michal Shapiro
FEBRUARY 1, 2010, 12:00 PM

We tend to think of Taiwan mostly in terms of its relationship to
China. But there are eleven different aboriginal tribes still dwelling
on Taiwan, some going back 7000 years.  Amazingly each one of the
tribes is distinctive from the others in customs and language. What
unites them is their common marginalization, as various successive
powers have attempted to "normalize" them into the ruling or majority
culture. Many have held on to their identities, and still live in the
mountains, valleys and plains of the island.

Access full article below:
http://www.linktv.org/worldmusic/blog/post/366/taiwan-journey-part-4-aboriginal-sounds-in-taiwan-with-inka-mbing-and-totem


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Tue Feb  2 19:44:05 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:44:05 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a song
 in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.134405.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am helping a friend who is about to
start a radio show at our University.  She is a First Nations person and the
show will have a First Nations, Metis and Inuit perspective/focus.  She is
also a singer/song writer (in English) but understands the value of singing
(and speaking!) in our own languages.

If you have or know of songs in Indigenous languages that you would like to
see get some airtime (even if it is just local right now), please contact
me.  I will pass on the information....

Kihchi maarsii!  Thanks a lot!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather Souter
Michif (Metis) from Camperville, Manitoba, Canada
MA candidate Michif Linguistics and Language
University of Lethbridge
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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Tue Feb  2 20:07:01 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:07:01 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a
 song in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002021144y5cc21c98g7a7ca3cf47fba3d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.140701.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We produced a CD a few years back in several languages.  It's called  
 From The Sky; Stories in Song and Sound from Native North America.   
It's available on MANY digital distributors.  Sung by Georgia Wettlin- 
Larson.   Samples can be found online.   A preview copy could be sent,  
if desired.

m


On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Heather Souter wrote:

> Taanshi,
>
> As I mentioned in a previous post, I am helping a friend who is  
> about to start a radio show at our University.  She is a First  
> Nations person and the show will have a First Nations, Metis and  
> Inuit perspective/focus.  She is also a singer/song writer (in  
> English) but understands the value of singing (and speaking!) in our  
> own languages.
>
> If you have or know of songs in Indigenous languages that you would  
> like to see get some airtime (even if it is just local right now),  
> please contact me.  I will pass on the information....
>
> Kihchi maarsii!  Thanks a lot!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather Souter
> Michif (Metis) from Camperville, Manitoba, Canada
> MA candidate Michif Linguistics and Language
> University of Lethbridge

_______________________
Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies, LLC

Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
763-219-1696

Indian Treaty Signers Project
Martin Case, Director
5001 1/2 34th Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Feb  2 20:22:15 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:22:15 -0600
Subject: Songs in Indigenous languages..... If you want to promote a
 song in your language or your favorite artist, please contact me!
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb  2 21:07:47 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:07:47 -0700
Subject: Software Company Helps Revive 'Sleeping' Language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.140747.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tuesday Feb. 2nd

Software Company Helps Revive 'Sleeping' Language
10:35 a.m. | Larry Abramson | National Public Radio
USA

Rosetta Stone, which focuses on teaching languages to tourists and
business travelers, is helping the Chitimacha tribe of Louisiana
resuscitate its native tongue. The last native speaker passed away in
1940, and the tribe hopes shiny new software will attract youth to the
language.

In Harrisonburg, Va., a small training room is alive with the sounds
of a once-dead language.

Kimberly Walden, Sandra Boutte and Rachel Vilcan are members of the
Chitimacha tribe. They have flown from Louisiana to the corporate
headquarters of Rosetta Stone, a company that primarily focuses on
selling language software to tourists and business travelers. The
company is helping them develop computer software they hope will help
interest younger members in learning their native tongue.

Access full article below:
http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/02/02/software-company-helps-revive-sleeping-language/


From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Tue Feb  2 21:22:45 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 11:22:45 -1000
Subject: UH NFLRC now on Facebook and Twitter
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.112245.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha!

Along with its main website (http://nflrc.hawaii.edu), the National Foreign 
Language Resource Center (NFLRC) at the University of Hawaii is now on Facebook 
and Twitter.  If you are interested in social networking media and wish to get 
the latest up-to-the-minute announcements, news, and reminders from the NFLRC, 
we encourage you to sign up as a Facebook fan or follow our Twitter tweets.

1) To become an NFLRC Facebook fan, go to:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Honolulu-HI/National-Foreign-Language-Resource-Center/201572076515

Sign in to your Facebook account and click on the "Become a Fan" button


2) To follow NFLRC on Twitter, go to:

http://twitter.com/NFLRC

Sign in to your Twitter account and click on the "Follow" button (which will 
send a request to become a follower).  Once approved, you will begin getting 
NFLRC tweets from Twitter.



Jim Yoshioka
Program Coordinator


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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:26:49 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:26:49 +1300
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002021008jee3fde2i98040467328058e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.122649.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

I thought you might be interested in this (yep, another one).

I'm catching up with Kim at morning tea on Friday and handing over some more magazines. I catch up with her a couple of weeks ago to do the same thing. From what she was saying it sounds like Sandra is under siege a bit (to put it mildly) - when Sandra was checking her job description she discovered that Margaret's JD had acquired more repository management responsibilities. Sandra went to Terehia about this (because it happened on her watch), and from what Kim said, Terehia was not pleased and would be doing something about it. I am SO not happy with what they (Margaret and Wendy) are trying to do to Sandra, but I don't know how I can help.

I did say to Kim that it sounded like constructive dismissal to me - M and W trying to squeeze Sandra out in the same way they did with you - but I'm not sure how she took it (she went quiet for a bit). I do know that Kim said she couldn't cope with that kind of thinking when you commented on the desk arrangement issue (with M inserting her buddies between other people so we couldn't "collude") - it did her head in. I guess I'm more of a name it and deal with it kind of person, aye. It's scary, but then you know what you're facing.

In better news - simultaneous interpretation of te reo into English will be starting next week in the House. It's nice not to have the flow of the korero broken up!

Ma te wa

Tracy
-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Heather Souter
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 07:09a.m.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT Community Site....

Taanshi kihtwaam!  Hello, again!

I have been thinking about doing an internet radio program for Michif for a long while....  I even have an account set up at Blogtalk Radio but haven't really done anything with it yet.  I also set up an Ning site for Michif sometime ago but that never went anywhere either....  However, Phil's recent post talking about an Ning site and my friend's new radio show have gotten me thinking again....  Perhaps I wasn't meant to try to do these things in isolation?!  (Dah!)  Perhaps, we could do something as a community?  Not just for Michif, of course, but for all our languages--or at least those of people who want to get involved.

Now, I am not a digital Native nor do I really "like" technology (sorry!). (I like it for what it can do but I don't really like messing around with the nuts and bolts!  LOL!)  However, I am hoping that there is someone out there who does and would be willing to get involved. ( Like Phil mentioned in an earlier email, perhaps an MA or PhD candidate?)

So, here is the dream....  What  if WE started an Internet radio program (with call in, etc.!--on Blogtalk Radio?) so that we could present our ideas/talks/papers/interviews to a wider audience...?  The program could even be "broadcast" and the podcasts moved to an site like Ning where access could be managed if/when necessary (at the request of the speaker, an elder, a band or tribal council, etc.) (Of course, the podcast could even be given to the carriers/owners of the knowledge shared and the original destroyed if so asked.)   What if we had an Ning site we could put up videos as well and even have chat sessions when if we wanted to get together...?  I am almost positive that Elluminate! (head office in Calgary, Alberta, close to here!) would be willing to give us access to a  virtual classroom  when we could do webcasts, have meetings, etc....

My sense is that many others may have dreamed or are dreaming in a similar way.  I believe our dreams can show us the way....

Thanks for reading this and listening to me.

Eekoshi.
Heather

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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:30:48 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:30:48 +1300
Subject: My profound apologies for the last message I sent.
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123048.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Aroha mai. I will take much more care in future with the message I forward from this list. My intention was to forward a message to a friend who is working in the language revitalisation field.

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:31:14 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:31:14 +1300
Subject: Recall: ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT
 Community Site....
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123114.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The sender would like to recall the message, "ILAT Radio Program(s) on Blogtalk Radio and/or Ning ILAT Community Site....".


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  2 23:36:53 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:36:53 +1300
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous
 Languages
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002020954k5064138nf671bd881187abc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.123653.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora Heather

I don't have any contacts in this area myself, but you may find something of interest on these sites. (Or these organisations may be able to put you in touch with some people.)

Maori radio broadcasting:

http://www.irirangi.net/

Maori Television:

http://www.maoritelevision.com/default.aspx

Te Reo TV (the 100% Maori language channel):

http://www.tereo.tv/default.aspx

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Heather Souter
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 06:54a.m.
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Request for Information on Recordings of Songs in Indigenous Languages

Taanshi,

A friend is starting a FNMI (First Nations, Metis and Inuit) focus/perspective "issues radio show" at our university (University of Lethbridge).  We have been talking about the need to get our languages out into the air more.  We have talked about the possiblity of including our  languages through mini-lessons, short interviews with Elders, etc.? in the programming AND music-- sung in the languages spoken by our peoples (in Canada and the US) and those of other indigenous peoples (especially when global issues are being addressed).  (There is the possiblity of the program being picked up for a wider (national!) broadcast  depending on how things go...!)  And, since the program, no matter what eventually happens, is so important, I have offered to do all I can to help.  However since in reality I can do and know so little.  I am coming to you for help.  I am so grateful I am not  not alone in wanting to use technology (both old and new!) to promote our languages/cultures!

So, if you have stories to share about running radio programs or  you have names of people (professional and just ordinary folks) who sing in their languages and information about how we could contact them or hear/obtain their music (email, websites, facebook, youtube, etc.), please send them to me and I will pass them on.  ( I am copying this email to my friend and  will ask my friend if she wants to join ILAT.)

Kihchi-marsii!   Thank-you very much!

Eekoshi pitamaa. That is all for now.
Heather






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From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Wed Feb  3 02:09:42 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:09:42 -1000
Subject: Announcing New Issue of Language Learning & Technology Journal
 (Vol. 14 Num. 1)
Message-ID: <TUE.2.FEB.2010.160942.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

We are happy to announce that Volume 14 Number 1 of Language Learning & 
Technology is now available at http://llt.msu.edu. The contents are listed 
below.

Please visit the LLT Web site and be sure to enter your free subscription if 
you have not already done so. Also, we welcome your contributions for future 
issues. See our guidelines for submission at http://llt.msu.edu/contrib.html.


Sincerely,

Dorothy Chun and Irene Thompson, Editors
Language Learning & Technology


----- Feature Articles -----

Corpus-Assisted Creative Writing: Introducing Intermediate Italian Learners to 
a Corpus as a Reference Resource

Claire Kennedy and Tiziana Miceli


Using Synchronous Online Peer Response Groups in EFL Writing: Revision-Related 
Discourse

Mei-Ya Liang


The Effects of Captioning Videos Used for Foreign Language Listening Activities

Paula Winke, Susan Gass, and Tetyana Sydorenko


----- Columns -----

Invited Commentary

New Tools for Teaching Writing
by Mark Warschauer


Emerging Technologies

New Developments in Web Browsing and Authoring
by Robert Godwin-Jones


----- Reviews -----

Edited by Sigrun Biesenbach-Lucas


Second Language Teaching and Learning in the Net Generation
Raquel Oxford and Jeffrey Oxford (Eds.)

Reviewed by Ulugbek Nurmukhamedov


The Theory and Practice of Online Learning
Terry Anderson (Ed.)

Reviewed by Mandy Reinig



----- Call for Papers -----

Theme: Learner Autonomy and New Learning Environments

Hayo Reinders and Cynthia White (Guest Editors)


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Wed Feb  3 14:20:59 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 08:20:59 -0600
Subject: South Africa Approves Geographical Name Changes as Part of
 Healing and Reconciliation Process
Message-ID: <WED.3.FEB.2010.082059.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

28 Name Changes Approved

Arts and Culture Minister Lulu Xingwana has approved proposed changes to 28
geographical names, her department said in a statement on Tuesday.

Changes of geographical names like Mafikeng to Mahikeng, in the North West,
and Piet Retief to eMkhondo, in Mpumalanga, were in line with the South
African Geographical Names Council Act, the department said.

"The standardisation of geographical names in South Africa is part of the
healing and reconciliation process... part of the process of redressing the
marginalisation of indigenous language, culture, and heritage.

Read more at:

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=6&art_id=nw20100202131827778C526954
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 13:34:44 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:34:44 -0400
Subject: Technology survey
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.093444.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi all,

If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.

Thanks,
Shannon
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 14:41:41 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:41:41 -0500
Subject: Technology survey
In-Reply-To: <1c1f75a21002040534r687752a0u501a5bc54a418684@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.094141.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Good work, Shannon --
I'd be happy to take a look --

Susan

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:34 AM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
> and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
> survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
> complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
> the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
> things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
> folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
> we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
> interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
> are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
> and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.
>
> Thanks,
> Shannon
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb  4 18:11:02 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:11:02 -0400
Subject: Technology survey
In-Reply-To: <39a679e21002040641i42b9cd99mf2c217f17e6a2d2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.141102.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks Sue, I'll get you a copy in about a week. Shannon

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Good work, Shannon --
> I'd be happy to take a look --
>
> Susan
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:34 AM, s.t. bischoff <bischoff.st at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you all recall, we had a discussion in November(?) about technology use
>> and indigenous languages. I promised to collect questions and put together a
>> survey by the end of January. Well it's February and the survey is almost
>> complete. I'm looking for volunteers who might be willing to take a look at
>> the survey before it is  posted online. I'd like to get some feedback on
>> things like the clarity of questions for example, and any other thoughts
>> folks might have. The survey will be available in Spanish and English, and
>> we hope to have it online by March at the latest. So if anyone has the
>> interest in reading the Spanish version that would be helpful as well. We
>> are in the process of creating a webpage where the survey can be accessed,
>> and intend to post all the raw data there as well as it comes in.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shannon
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb  4 19:03:19 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:03:19 -0700
Subject: Ancient tribal language becomes extinct as last speaker dies (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.120319.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ancient tribal language becomes extinct as last speaker dies

Death of Boa Sr, last person fluent in the Bo language of the Andaman
Islands, breaks link with 65,000-year-old culture

guardian.co.uk
Thursday 4 February 2010 16.28 GMT

Boa Sr, the last speaker of the Bo language of the Andaman Islands,
has died. Photograph: Alok Das/Survival/Survival

The last speaker of an ancient tribal language has died in the Andaman
Islands, breaking a 65,000-year link to one of the world's oldest
cultures.

Boa Sr, who lived through the 2004 tsunami, the Japanese occupation
and diseases brought by British settlers, was the last native of the
island chain who was fluent in Bo.

Access full article below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/04/ancient-language-extinct-speaker-dies


From jjansen at UOREGON.EDU  Thu Feb  4 19:21:59 2010
From: jjansen at UOREGON.EDU (Joana Jansen)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:21:59 -0800
Subject: Keeping the sacred gift of Native language alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.112159.0800.JJANSEN@UOREGON.EDU>

Keeping the sacred gift of Native language alive 
Portland Oregonian January 23, 2010

Here is a recent article with associated pictures and recordings of the teaching being done at Nixyaawii High School and the CTUIR Language Program:

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/index.ssf/2009/01/sounds_of_oregon.html

Joana Jansen
jjansen at uoregon.edu
Northwest Indian Language Institute and
Department of Linguistics, University of Oregon


From okimah at MAC.COM  Fri Feb  5 00:23:56 2010
From: okimah at MAC.COM (Paul Rickard)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:23:56 -0500
Subject: Finding Our Talk on Youtube
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.192356.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi ILAT users:

For those who are interested in videos about indigenous languages,  
visit our language series "Finding Our Talk" on Youtube.  We've  
recently uploaded HD video excerpts of each episode with a short  
description.  Or you can view them on our website.  www.mushkeg.ca

http://www.youtube.com/user/MushkegMedia

Meegwetch.


Paul Rickard
Mushkeg Media Inc


From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb  5 06:09:06 2010
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea L. Berez)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 21:09:06 -0900
Subject: CuPED: latest version and users' manual
Message-ID: <THU.4.FEB.2010.210906.0900.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear List,

This is to let you know that the latest version of CuPED (0.3.14) is now
available. CuPED (Customizable Presentation of ELAN Documents) is a free
tool that allows easy conversion of ELAN audio and video annotations into
user-friendly HTML. The latest version fixes some bugs and brings all the
underlying components up to date.

We also (finally!) have a draft of a users' manual available. The manual,
CuPED for Windows and Mac, the source code, and examples of CuPED in use can
all be downloaded from Chris Cox's website at

http://sweet.artsrn.ualberta.ca/cdcox/cuped/


Both CuPED and the manual are under development, and we openly welcome
suggestions, comments, and bug reports.

Enjoy!

Andrea Berez and Christopher Cox
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb  5 12:55:46 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:55:46 -0500
Subject: CuPED: latest version and users' manual
In-Reply-To: <89bfe5de1002042209l4cefec7agecf1a0e6b26e2529@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.5.FEB.2010.075546.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is welcome news!  Andrea's materials on ELAN were a big hit at InField
(which is coming up again at Oregon this summer!)

Thanks to both Andrea and Chris for this very helpful work!

Susan

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Andrea L. Berez <andrea.berez at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> This is to let you know that the latest version of CuPED (0.3.14) is now
> available. CuPED (Customizable Presentation of ELAN Documents) is a free
> tool that allows easy conversion of ELAN audio and video annotations into
> user-friendly HTML. The latest version fixes some bugs and brings all the
> underlying components up to date.
>
> We also (finally!) have a draft of a users' manual available. The manual,
> CuPED for Windows and Mac, the source code, and examples of CuPED in use can
> all be downloaded from Chris Cox's website at
>
> http://sweet.artsrn.ualberta.ca/cdcox/cuped/
>
>
> Both CuPED and the manual are under development, and we openly welcome
> suggestions, comments, and bug reports.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Andrea Berez and Christopher Cox
> -----------------------------
> Andrea L. Berez
> PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb  7 20:16:23 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:16:23 -0600
Subject: Potential for Self-Documentation or Elder/Youth Paired
 Documentation of Language/Language Context Using Small Passive
 Recording Devices and/or BOLD?
Message-ID: <SUN.7.FEB.2010.141623.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

My question to everyone is what is the potential for self-documentation of
language/language use context using small passive recording devices?  I just
came across some information on a small passive digital camera called
SenseCam and wonder about its potential use for language documentation when
paired with a similar device for sound recording?  I also wonder about
"lifecasting" style documentation using a small webcam place on a ball cap
and a small mobile computer or other video capture device.

I know it almost smacks of Big Brother type surveillance, but we are being
recorded almost everywhere we go these days....  (Not that I like it! LOL!)
However,  if the recording process was controlled by the language speaker
(and/or face-to-face language learner/apprentice)  and with full knowledge,
acceptance and permission of those being recorded (could be done with
recorder running with simple script was always available or memorized by the
speaker) and other stakeholders ( Elders, their community, etc.), it could
be an excellent way for communities (and trusted others) to obtain an almost
"speaker's eye view" of language context.

Would it be helpful? What are the downsides?  Would speakers of
endangered/indigenous languages and their communities accept such a
recording system?  If yes, for what purposes would speakers and communities
(and trusted collaborating linguists) like to see such a system used? Would
reviewing the images help speakers remember more information that they could
then verbally annotate the sound recording, using the BOLD method for
example?   Could this be another way for speakers and their communities to
gain greater controls over the documentation of language and production of
language materials to support retention, reacquisition and/or heritage
language learning?  If yes, how could this process be facilitated?

If anyone has already given similar ideas some thought, please share them
with the list and/or email me!

Finally,  are some links for those of you (like me, LOL!) not too familiar
with SenseCam, Lifecasting or BOLT and would like to learn and thinking more
about this idea....

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/cambridge/projects/sensecam/default.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifecasting_(video_stream)
https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5071

Kihchi-maarsii.

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
MA Candidate, University of Lethbridge

PS: Although some may have ambivalent  feelings about the source of the BOLD
concept, I still think it has merit....
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From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Sun Feb  7 21:39:14 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:39:14 +1300
Subject: Simultaneous Interpretation (Maori to English) to begin in New
 Zealand's Parliament
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.103914.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Simultaneous interpretation (Maori to English) is due to commence in New Zealand's Parliament this week. I thought the list might be interested in this article from December last year, which gives some background:

15 December 2009, 4:36PM

Simultaneous interpretation of Parliament into Maori
By Pita Sharples
135 views


Maori Party Co-leader Dr Pita Sharples today asked the Speaker for details about how Parliamentary proceedings would be translated into Maori in real time, starting next year.

In a point of order at the start of today's sitting, Dr Sharples noted the announcement by the Clerk of the House, that simultaneous translation will be introduced when the House resumes sitting in 2010.

"The Maori Party is pleased to hear this advice, as we believe that it will increase the understanding of Maori, add to the profile of te reo, improve pronunciation and establish the status of te reo as an official language of this land," said Dr Sharples.

Full article at: http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?l=1&t=115&id=46034

People accessing the webstreamed or televised debates will be able to choose between either an English +  Maori audio channel (this will be the default) or English only audio channel. The radio broadcast will continue to be broadcast direct from the floor of the House (this is the English + Maori audio).

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb  7 22:44:21 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:44:21 +1100
Subject: BOLD methodology
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.094421.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi ILATers,

Steven Bird recently released a web site for the "Basic Oral Language
Documentation" (BOLD) project, which you can see here <
http://www.boldpng.info/home>. It sets out the method very clearly, and
links to good resources.

cheers,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Mon Feb  8 16:36:46 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:36:46 EST
Subject: Strengthening the Circle,
 A Native Nonprofit Leadership Program April 20...
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.113646.EST.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: bsawyer at theglobal.net
To: rrlapier at pieganinstitute.org
Sent:  2/7/2010 3:44:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time
Subj: Strengthening the  Circle, A Native Nonprofit Leadership Program 
April 20-23, 



Dear  Rosalyn, 
Strengthening  the Circle, A Native  Nonprofit Leadership Program is now 
accepting applications.  Please find  the application attached.  I would 
appreciate it if you would share this  information with anyone you know may be 
interested in  participating. 
This yearlong training  program is designed to give Executive Directors and 
Board members the tools,  skills, and technical support needed to  
successfully develop and strengthen  nonprofit organizations working with youth in 
Indian Country. Hopa Mountain,  Seventh Generation Fund, the Indian Nonprofit 
Alliance, Artemisia Associates,  WolfStar PR, and the Foundation for 
Community Vitality are cooperatively  organizing the 2010 Native American 
Nonprofit Leadership Program.  

Strengthening the Circle  aims to strengthen the capacities of experienced 
and emerging non-profit  organizations that respond to the needs of American 
Indian families,  especially those organizations serving families and youth 
on Indian  reservations. This Native Nonprofit Leadership Program will 
consist of a 4-day  workshop for 40 executive directors and Board members with 
follow up technical  assistance. The 4-day training program will take place 
in Bozeman, Montana  April 20-23. 

Travel, lodging,  instruction, and materials will be covered for applicants 
that are accepted  into the program. In addition to the 4-day training 
session, each participant  will receive a Strengthening the Circle Guidebook for 
Native nonprofit  leaders, resources for Board development; eight hours of 
consulting or  coaching; and ongoing support through your peers and past 
graduates of the  program.

For more information about  the upcoming program, please contact Marissa 
Spang at Hopa Mountain at (406)  586-2455, _marissa.spang at hopamountain.org_ 
(mailto:marissa.spang at hopamountain.org)   or apply at 
_http://www.hopamountain.org/Strengthening_the_Circle.html_ 
(http://www.hopamountain.org/Strengthening_the_Circle.html) 
All the best,  Bonnie 
Dr. Bonnie  Sachatello-Sawyer 
Executive  Director 
Hopa  Mountain 
234 E.  Babcock, Suite E 
Bozeman,  MT  59715 
(406) 586-2455  (office) 
(406) 581-0824  (cell) 
www.hopamountain.org 


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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb  8 17:56:58 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:56:58 -0700
Subject: Anishinabe-kwe on the air (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.105658.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Anishinabe-kwe on the air

Canada

Anishinabek Nation citizen Jennifer Ashawasegai has signed a one-year
contract with Rogers Radio to produce a weekly one-hour Aboriginal
newsmagazine radio program.

Bamoseda will feature national Aboriginal news, current affairs,
community and culture features, as well as spotlights on
entertainment. Bamoseda translates to walking together" in the
Anishinaabe language.

Bamosedawill be aired on eight Rogers stations and streamed on the
websites of 15 Rogers radio stations as well as Ashawasegai's program
website www.bamoseda.com.

Access full article below:
http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2438106


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb  8 18:04:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:04:30 -0700
Subject: The race to save Indigenous languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.8.FEB.2010.110430.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The race to save Indigenous languages

By Louisa Rebgetz
Posted Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:25am AEDT
Australia

Experts are working hard to record several Top End Aboriginal
languages that are down to their very last speakers.

In the remote Northern Territory community of Wadeye linguists say
four languages will be gone in the next decade.

Patrick Palibu Nudjulu is a Magati Ke elder, custodian of the Rak
Naniny clan and is one of two remaining speakers of the Magati Ke
language.

His sick and elderly sister can speak Magati Ke, but not to the point
where she can help in the documentation of the language.

Maree Klesch works closely with Mr Nudjulu through her job at the
Endangered Languages Centre at Batchelor Institute for Indigenous
tertiary education.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/08/2812936.htm?section=australia


From Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ  Tue Feb  9 01:15:49 2010
From: Tracy.Jacobs at PARLIAMENT.GOVT.NZ (Tracy Jacobs)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:15:49 +1300
Subject: Further info on simultaneous interpretation in the NZ Parliament
Message-ID: <TUE.9.FEB.2010.141549.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kia ora

Here's a link to more information on the introduction of simultaneous interpretation in the New Zealand Parliament:

http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/Features/5/1/2/00NZPHomeNews090220101-Simultaneous-interpretation-in-the-House.htm

Additional information on the history of the Maori language in Parliament is available if you click on the link "Te Reo Maori i te Paremata" (the English text is at the bottom of the page).

E noho ora mai

Tracy Jacobs


From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Tue Feb  9 17:20:47 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:20:47 EST
Subject: Summer programs for American Indian graduate students i...
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Maybe helpful for some language  folks.
 
 

SAPAI 2010 Summer Writing Retreat and Tribal College Faculty  Preparation 
Training



Student to Academic Professoriate for  American Indians (SAPAI) is a 
project funded by the National Science Foundation  to increase the rates of degree 
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and Universities (TCU).



We are  currently recruiting participants for the 2010 SAPAI Writing 
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 10 07:11:34 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:11:34 -0700
Subject: Nunavut language summit begins (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.10.FEB.2010.001134.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nunavut language summit begins

Last Updated: Tuesday, February 9, 2010 | 5:19 PM CT
CBC News

Inuit languages ? and how to preserve them in a culture increasingly
dominated by English ? are the focus of a Nunavut summit this week
drawing experts from several circumpolar nations.

About 200 delegates from Canada, Greenland and the United States are
in Iqaluit for the Nunavut Language Summit, which began Tuesday and
runs through Friday.

The Nunavut government organized the conference because it wants to
implement new laws aimed at making Inuit languages, including
Inuktitut and Inuinnaqtun, more prominent in the daily lives of
Nunavummiut.

While about 90 per cent of Inuit in Canada still speak Inuktitut, its
use has been slowly declining, according to Statistics Canada. Inuit
make up 84 per cent of Nunavut's population of about 30,000.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2010/02/09/nunavut-lang-summit.html#ixzz0f79V6rvZ


From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb 11 07:16:45 2010
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:16:45 -0700
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%201002110000358077.0009@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.001645.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Howdy, all,

    I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
necessary
to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?

    Thanks,

    Rudy

    Rudy Troike


From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Thu Feb 11 08:08:43 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:08:43 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.190843.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

CD-R will work fine. I think CD-RW won't though, but I'm not exactly sure.

The main restriction is that the files must be encoded at 16 bit 
resolution, 44.1 kHz sample rate and stereo.

Just out of interest (and possibly some professional bias) are you 
archiving these materials? And how are you digitising them?

Aidan Wilson
Audio at Paradisec


-- 
Aidan Wilson

The University of Sydney
+612 9036 9558
+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at usyd.edu.au

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Rudy Troike wrote:

> Howdy, all,
>
>   I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Rudy
>
>   Rudy Troike
>


From tmp at NUNASOFT.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:12:56 2010
From: tmp at NUNASOFT.COM (Eric Poncet [NunaSoft])
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:12:56 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.131256.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Rudy,

Given the affordability of blank CD's and given the worth of your 
content, I definitely suggest buying the best quality. The (very) small 
extra sum spent on top quality will be a good investment!
Also, here's why CD-RW's should be avoided :
a) because of their erasability. True, common sense tells us that nobody 
should reformat a properly labelled CD-RW... but that's not incompatible 
with prudence.
b) though we have no evidence or statistics over a long period on 
longevity, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-RW gives some clues: "CD-RWs 
are not as reliable for long-term storage; however, under recommended 
storage conditions, CD-RW should have a life expectancy of 2 years or 
more (as compared to 30+ years for CD-R)"
c) some CD players can not play CD-RW's

Cheers,
Eric

Rudy Troike a ?crit :
> Howdy, all,
>
>    I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD 
> format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it 
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>    Thanks,
>
>    Rudy
>
>    Rudy Troike


From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:15:05 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:15:05 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <4B7448A8.6050704@nunasoft.com>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.131505.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I'd also strongly recommend having a hard drive backup (or two) and
DVDs of the materials. That way if you need to replace the CDs or
provide more copies it's easy to burn more.
Claire

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Eric Poncet [NunaSoft]
<tmp at nunasoft.com> wrote:
> Rudy,
>
> Given the affordability of blank CD's and given the worth of your content, I
> definitely suggest buying the best quality. The (very) small extra sum spent
> on top quality will be a good investment!
> Also, here's why CD-RW's should be avoided :
> a) because of their erasability. True, common sense tells us that nobody
> should reformat a properly labelled CD-RW... but that's not incompatible
> with prudence.
> b) though we have no evidence or statistics over a long period on longevity,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-RW gives some clues: "CD-RWs are not as
> reliable for long-term storage; however, under recommended storage
> conditions, CD-RW should have a life expectancy of 2 years or more (as
> compared to 30+ years for CD-R)"
> c) some CD players can not play CD-RW's
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
> Rudy Troike a ?crit :
>>
>> Howdy, all,
>>
>> ? I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD
>> format.
>> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it
>> necessary
>> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>>
>> ? Thanks,
>>
>> ? Rudy
>>
>> ? Rudy Troike
>


From andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM  Thu Feb 11 18:19:53 2010
From: andrea.berez at GMAIL.COM (Andrea L. Berez)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:19:53 -0900
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211001645.ut4cg4wcgkg8kwog@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.091953.0900.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The lengthy and very serious discussion of longterm sustainability of
digital media aside...

If you're just asking about playback, I was surprised to find that regular
CD-Rs didn't play in some older CD players, and that I did in fact need
"music CDs" to share recordings with folks who just wanted something to
listen to in the kitchen, in the car, etc...

~Andrea
-----------------------------
Andrea L. Berez
PhD candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~aberez/


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

> Howdy, all,
>
>   I'm planning to copy some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format.
> Any caveats would be welcome. One question -- for this purpose, is it
> necessary
> to use "music CDs", or will ordinary CD-R disks work?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Rudy
>
>   Rudy Troike
>
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From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Thu Feb 11 23:24:53 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:24:53 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <89bfe5de1002111019y183945c8x45f3df0ddca1a7b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.182453.0500.>

I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
point in preserving two channels.

Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
to be of linguistic significance. 

16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
do with the quality of linguistic recordings.

Bill
 


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Feb 11 23:37:43 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:37:43 -1000
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211232454.0BFB4B2AA0@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.133743.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha. I'll disagree with this. I work in the recording industry outside of my academic duties, and have played around a lot with this for our own audio archives.

It is always best, IMHO, to digitize at the highest possible resolution, and you can always down-sample for online use. I've A/B live and analog conversions that were done at the 44.1k and converted down to 22k. vs. those recorded at 22k, and there is noticeably (to my ears) greater clarity and depth to those that were recorded at the higher rate and down-sampled. We tried this with our Ka Leo Hawai'i archives, and even my colleagues who lacked the recording background could hear the difference on relatively inexpensive speakers. My songwriting partner has done the same with some of his commercial recordings, and found that he can clearly hear the difference when he records at 96k and down-samples to 44.1, as opposed to recording at 44.1.

I did the same kind of experiment with scanning. Try to scan an image at 72DPI, and compare it to one scanned at a higher resolution and then down-sampled. The down-sampled ones are much clearer. Programs like Photoshop will extrapolate based on the surrounding pixels to create an image that is clearer than what the scanning software will do if it scans at 72DPI - those don't take the surrounding pixels into account. Slightly different case case with audio. but similar results.

To me a big consideration is the digital I/O device. If the tapes are valuable, get an external converter (PreSonus units are relatively inexpensive but very good). It will make a huge difference over using the built in mic or line jack on any computers.

Re: mono recordings, agreed. However, if you record mono, make sure whatever format you are going to serve it as (or burn it to) will handle it properly. It's no fun listening to a mono track through one earphone, and some software encountered will do that, i.e., assume that the mono file is simply one side of a stereo track, and leave you with one ear listening.

My 2 cents.

Keola


On 2010 Pep. 11, at 13:24, William J Poser wrote:

> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
> point in preserving two channels.
> 
> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
> to be of linguistic significance. 
> 
> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Thu Feb 11 23:57:56 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:57:56 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100211232454.0BFB4B2AA0@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.105756.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and 
sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be 
stereo, 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.

Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't 
a computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio 
CD wav files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD 
players are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 
kHz. Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the 
audio such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or 
just outputting digital noise.

-- 
Aidan Wilson

The University of Sydney
+612 9036 9558
+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:

> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
> point in preserving two channels.
>
> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
> to be of linguistic significance.
>
> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>
> Bill
>
>


From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 02:01:17 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:01:17 -0800
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121050370.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.180117.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I would record at the highest rate even though, as Bill points out,
that it is a waste of space. Terabyte Hard drives are the norm.  If
you are worried about space make sure you compress with a lossless
compressions such as FLAC, programs like Audacity can do this
natively.  Audacity also has a timer for the record function so you
can set it to record for 30 minutes, and it is available for Linux,
Mac, Windows. This list is ordered for a reason ;)

I don't think it really matters when burning to a CD what sample rate
you use, because programs like iTunes or Windows Media Player usually
upsample and convert to a WAV before the burn it to a CD anyways.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Aidan Wilson <aidan at usyd.edu.au> wrote:
> While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and
> sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be stereo,
> 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.
>
> Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't a
> computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio CD wav
> files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD players
> are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
> Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the audio
> such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or just
> outputting digital noise.
>
> --
> Aidan Wilson
>
> The University of Sydney
> +612 9036 9558
> +61428 458 969
> aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au
>
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:
>
>> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
>> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
>> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
>> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
>> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
>> point in preserving two channels.
>>
>> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
>> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
>> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
>> to be of linguistic significance.
>>
>> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
>> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
>> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
>> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
Skype: neskiemanuel
Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie


From aidan at USYD.EDU.AU  Fri Feb 12 02:38:50 2010
From: aidan at USYD.EDU.AU (Aidan Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:38:50 +1100
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <6838a1931002111801w303d8bd2r25e2ddebffb30c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.133850.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

If you're "creating an audio CD" using iTunes or indows Media Player, then 
sure; it'll do all the converting for you, but this is potentially 
sub-optimal, as you may be creating a CD from mp3 files. These programs 
will happily expand them out to CD-Audio WAV specifications in the 
formatting and burning process, but needless 
compression/expansion/transcoding should be avoided.

I was thinking along the lines of manually formatting a bunch of audio 
files using Audacity or something, and using a program like burn (on a 
mac) or Brasero (on Linux). There must be a similar program for Windows - 
the point is there should be a checkbox for 'audio CD' - but I haven't 
used Windows in some time.

On the tangential issue running alongside this thread, yes, the higher the 
better when it comes to audio quality, and only transcode at the last 
minute. If you're digitising something and turning it into an audio CD for 
instance, do all your bits and pieces to the files, normalising, EQ, noise 
filtering, etc. first. Resampling and dithering to 44.1 at 16 should be the 
very last operation.

Bill maintains that the human ear is incapable of discerning frequncies 
above 22000 kHz, and that may well be true, but the human brain is capable 
of hearing quantization at that speed. As a test, take a 44.1 kHz file and 
slow it down by half using ELAN or something - you'll hear choppy 
playback. If you do the same to a 96 kHz file the effect is nowhere near 
as noticeable.

-Aidan

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Neskie Manuel wrote:

> I would record at the highest rate even though, as Bill points out,
> that it is a waste of space. Terabyte Hard drives are the norm.  If
> you are worried about space make sure you compress with a lossless
> compressions such as FLAC, programs like Audacity can do this
> natively.  Audacity also has a timer for the record function so you
> can set it to record for 30 minutes, and it is available for Linux,
> Mac, Windows. This list is ordered for a reason ;)
>
> I don't think it really matters when burning to a CD what sample rate
> you use, because programs like iTunes or Windows Media Player usually
> upsample and convert to a WAV before the burn it to a CD anyways.
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Aidan Wilson <aidan at usyd.edu.au> wrote:
>> While I disagree about the benefits or otherwise of higher resolutions and
>> sample rates in digitisation, the point is, that an audio CD must be stereo,
>> 44.1 kHz, 16 bit.
>>
>> Anything else will not play on any regular CD player (that is, which isn't a
>> computer that can interpret the wav header). The reason is that audio CD wav
>> files don't contain headers; they're raw PCM data - 1s and 0s. CD players
>> are designed to interpret those 1s and 0s as stereo, 16 bit 44.1 kHz.
>> Altering the properties, if it plays at all, will have effects on the audio
>> such as playing too fast/slow (if the sample rate is incorrect) or just
>> outputting digital noise.
>>
>> --
>> Aidan Wilson
>>
>> The University of Sydney
>> +612 9036 9558
>> +61428 458 969
>> aidan.wilson at sydney.edu.au
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, William J Poser wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not so sure about the recommendation of stereo digitisation. If
>>> the originals are not stereo recordings, there's no point in creating a
>>> stereo digital recording, and indeed, even if there are two channels
>>> on the original tapes, if they do not reflect inputs from two different
>>> microphones, you don't have a true stereo recording and there isn't much
>>> point in preserving two channels.
>>>
>>> Also, 44.1 K samples/second is overkill for most linguistic material. If
>>> it contains music, such a rate may be desirable, but for most speech,
>>> 22.05 K samples per second includes all of the information likely
>>> to be of linguistic significance.
>>>
>>> 16 bit resolution is highly desirable, but there's nothing sacred about
>>> 44.1K samples/per second sampling rate and stereo. These are merely
>>> residues of decisions made by the music industry and have nothing to
>>> do with the quality of linguistic recordings.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
> Skype: neskiemanuel
> Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie
>


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:28:13 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:28:13 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121050370.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.002813.0500.>

Yes, an audio CD must be stereo, 44.1 KHz, 16 bit. But that's not the
question. If you're digitizing analogue tapes, the data is likely to
be used in a variety of ways, only one of which is making audio CDs.
When you want to make an audio CD, if your data is in another format,
you convert it to the audio CD format, which is easily done. If your
original recording is monaural, as most linguistic recordings are in my
experience, there's no point in wasting space and processing time in
digitizing it stereo (or even worse, as can happen, digitizing one
channel of voice and another of background noise). If you need a
"stereo" version for an audio CD, it is a trivial matter to duplicate
the single channel.

With regard to higher sampling rates, I agree that they're desirable
for music, which is of course what the recording industry is concerned
with, but I repeat that there is not the slightest evidence that anything
of significance in speech is found above 10Khz. Even if real psychophysical
experiments rather than anecdotes demonstrate that people can tell the
difference, the question is, does the difference matter? Piles of evidence
form psychophysical experimentation together with practical experience
in both phonetics research and speech technology indicate no.

If you've got lots of space and processor time go ahead and digitize at
44.1K, but for straight speech data there really isn't any good reason to go
so high. 

I concur that the quality of the digitizer can make a lot of difference
(as can setting the input gain properly so as to take advantage of the
full range of the quantizer while avoiding clipping.)

Bill
 


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:33:53 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:33:53 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <6838a1931002111801w303d8bd2r25e2ddebffb30c93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.003353.0500.>

I agree with Neskie that worrying about space is mostly a throwback to
earlier times when much less storage was available, and I say this
when on my more serious rant about the evils of lossy compression. As
he says, if  you're going to compress, use FLAC (or another lossless
method, though FLAC is my personal favorite), not MP3 or some other
lossy technique. At the same time, if you're doing things like editing
large recordings, a lower sampling rate and/or fewer channels can reduce
memory (primary memory, not disk space) and processing requirements
enough to make it possible to edit recordings that would otherwise be
too large or to obtain much greater responsiveness from what would
otherwise be a sluggish machine.

Bill


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:37:11 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:37:11 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121327400.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.003711.0500.>

Aidan writes:
> As a test, take a 44.1 kHz file and 
>slow it down by half using ELAN or something 

What exactly do you mean by "slow it down"? I think we may be talking
processing artifict here, but I'm not sure.

Bill


From wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:50:24 2010
From: wjposer at LDC.UPENN.EDU (William J Poser)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:50:24 -0500
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.1.00.1002121327400.226@c169-int20.scp.arts.usyd.edu.au>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.005024.0500.>

I should perhaps clarify that I'm not so much arguing that you ought
to use a lower sampling rate as that you shouldn't feel obligated to
use a 44.1 K rate and shouldn't feel ashamed of producing inferior
material if you do use a lower (but still sufficiently high) rate.

Here's my overall position, for the usual situation in which lots of
storage is available. (Those archiving data on, say, old satellites,
are in a different situation.) If you want to save space, the sequence
in which techniques should be used is as follows:

(a) record/digitize mono rather than stereo
    This gives you a savings of 50% at no cost in quality.
    If you're working with something like conversational data this
    will not be true, so this applies only to monologues.

(b) use a lossless compression technique such as FLAC
    This gives you a savings of about 50% (variable depending on the
    data) at no cost in quality. For some people this might be the
    first technique to use rather than the second. I prefer not to have
    to decompress to work with the data (if it isn't long term archival),
    but your mileage may vary.

(c) use a lower sampling rate
    If you use a rate of 22.05K, this gives you a savings of 50%
    at little or no cost in quality. This applies only to pure speech data.
    Some music may well contain higher frequency components of significance.

(d) use a lossy compression technique
    Don't. Ever. With current hardware there is unlikely to be any
    justification for doing this. (For some devices/users you may need to
    create MP3s, but these should be regarded as inferior versions of the
    material. Also, you may be able to use a high bit-rate MP3 and avoid
    most of the distortion.)

Bill


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 05:50:54 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:50:54 -1000
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212052813.DC5B4B26B4@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.11.FEB.2010.195054.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On 2010 Pep. 11, at 19:28, William J Poser wrote:

> Yes, an audio CD must be stereo, 44.1 KHz, 16 bit. But that's not the
> question. If you're digitizing analogue tapes, the data is likely to
> be used in a variety of ways, only one of which is making audio CDs.
> When you want to make an audio CD, if your data is in another format,
> you convert it to the audio CD format, which is easily done. If your
> original recording is monaural, as most linguistic recordings are in my
> experience, there's no point in wasting space and processing time in
> digitizing it stereo (or even worse, as can happen, digitizing one
> channel of voice and another of background noise). If you need a
> "stereo" version for an audio CD, it is a trivial matter to duplicate
> the single channel.

Aloha Bill. To me this is an argument in support of digitizing both channels, or at the very least listening to both sides before digitizing. We have had experience of tapes where there was a significant difference in audio quality between the two sides, or pre-echoes that were more noticeable on one side or the other. It would be easier to have a digitized file that you can more through fairly quickly to compare the two side. Of course for space considerations, the lesser side could be deleted. I've come across one situation where one side was better at the beginning of the tape (some clicking was audible in the better channel toward the end of the tape), and better on the other side at the end. Ended up splicing the two together.

> With regard to higher sampling rates, I agree that they're desirable
> for music, which is of course what the recording industry is concerned
> with, but I repeat that there is not the slightest evidence that anything
> of significance in speech is found above 10Khz. Even if real psychophysical
> experiments rather than anecdotes demonstrate that people can tell the
> difference, the question is, does the difference matter? Piles of evidence
> form psychophysical experimentation together with practical experience
> in both phonetics research and speech technology indicate no.

I can put my faith in research and academic papers or my own ears. I have had audio done as I described - one recorded at 22k and the other at 44.1 and down-sampled. There was a clarity to the second that was not present in the first, and it allowed me to differentiate some sounds that I could not when they were originally recorded at the lower rate. Same equipment, same software. There could be some variable that I don't know about, and it may not be the case for everyone else. As they say, your mileage may vary. I'd recommend to anyone who is going to start an archiving project to experiment broadly. If you can't hear the difference, by all means save the space and extra time it would take to process 44.1 files and go with 22.1. If I still have the files I'll post them, but I kind of doubt it as it was simply experimental and I probably deleted them after we came to a determination and created our system for the project.

In our case, the reel-to-reel tapes were not marked and we had no way of knowing what, if any, noise reduction system was used on them. Took some experimenting, too.

Keola

========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 16:46:05 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:46:05 -0700
Subject: Call for Aboriginal language studies in schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.094605.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Call for Aboriginal language studies in schools

Posted February 12, 2010 14:00:00

Griffith University's Dale Kerwin says Aboriginal and Torres Strait
Island dialects have been denied their rightful place as official
Australian languages.

Dr Kerwin says the incorporation of indigenous language into the
classroom will go a long way to create social cohesion and preserving
indigenous cultural heritage.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/12/2818034.htm?site=idx-qld


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 16:50:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:50:45 -0700
Subject: Butchulla may be taught in schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.095045.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Butchulla may be taught in schools

Stephen O?Grady | 12th February 2010
Canada

HERVEY Bay is poised to pioneer an indigenous education revolution.

A senior officer from the Queensland Studies Authority was told
yesterday that the Fraser Coast is ready to trial a ground-breaking
new school syllabus which could place the Butchulla language alongside
Chinese, Indonesian, German and French as classroom subjects.

Paul Herschell, acting deputy director of the QSA?s teaching and
learning division, met with Butchulla elders and education leaders at
the Korrawinga Aboriginal Centre in Hervey Bay to present a statewide
proposal to formalise the education of indigenous languages.

Access full article below:
http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2010/02/12/butchulla-may-be-taught-in-fraser-coast-schools/


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 17:03:17 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:03:17 -0600
Subject: First Nations,
 Metis and Inuit Languages Awareness Day to be Held at Univeristy
 of Lethbridge, Lethbridge, Alberta
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.110317.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi!

I have some exciting news!

Things have come together fast for a First Nations, Metis and Inuit
Languages Awareness Day during the Native Awareness Week  (March 1-5) at the
University of Lethbridge. There will be a lecture series featuring a variety
of speakers and initiatives in communities, academia and elsewhere, plus a
panel discussion "What our languages can give to our children that English
(or other "foreign" languages) cannot" and an afternoon video screening
session featuring videos on language issues and in Indigenous languages.
The exact schedule of speakers, etc. is still being worked out, but it is a
go!

This will be the first major academic initiative to be organized by students
of the Native American Students Association and the first student-organized
event on language issues as well.

More latter!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 17:21:17 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:21:17 -0700
Subject: Butchulla may be taught in schools (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002120850x1f6e0d88yd3aa1ca5c2d55e7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.102117.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Just a minor correction here.  This article originates from Australia
not Canada, sorry.
Lately, I have been adding the country of origin tag line to news
articles since we are are quite an international group here.

thnx,

Phil
UofA ILAT

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Butchulla may be taught in schools
>
> Stephen O?Grady | 12th February 2010
> Canada
>
> HERVEY Bay is poised to pioneer an indigenous education revolution.
>
> A senior officer from the Queensland Studies Authority was told
> yesterday that the Fraser Coast is ready to trial a ground-breaking
> new school syllabus which could place the Butchulla language alongside
> Chinese, Indonesian, German and French as classroom subjects.
>
> Paul Herschell, acting deputy director of the QSA?s teaching and
> learning division, met with Butchulla elders and education leaders at
> the Korrawinga Aboriginal Centre in Hervey Bay to present a statewide
> proposal to formalise the education of indigenous languages.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2010/02/12/butchulla-may-be-taught-in-fraser-coast-schools/
>


From rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 12 17:27:26 2010
From: rtroike at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Rudy Troike)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:27:26 -0700
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <ILAT%201002120000398219.000E@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.102726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Howdy,

   Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.

   Many thanks again,

   Rudy


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 12 18:07:21 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:07:21 -0500
Subject: First Nations,
 Metis and Inuit Languages Awareness Day to be Held at Univeristy
 of Lethbridge, Lethbridge, Alberta
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002120903t535ee2w1e29a92b8a5416a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.130721.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks for sharing this, Heather--

Good news for all of you and a good example of what is possible through
student initiatives for others!

Susan

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Taanshi!
>
> I have some exciting news!
>
> Things have come together fast for a First Nations, Metis and Inuit
> Languages Awareness Day during the Native Awareness Week  (March 1-5) at the
> University of Lethbridge. There will be a lecture series featuring a variety
> of speakers and initiatives in communities, academia and elsewhere, plus a
> panel discussion "What our languages can give to our children that English
> (or other "foreign" languages) cannot" and an afternoon video screening
> session featuring videos on language issues and in Indigenous languages.
> The exact schedule of speakers, etc. is still being worked out, but it is a
> go!
>
> This will be the first major academic initiative to be organized by
> students of the Native American Students Association and the first
> student-organized event on language issues as well.
>
> More latter!
>
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
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From thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU  Fri Feb 12 20:58:58 2010
From: thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Nick Thieberger)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:58:58 +1100
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212102726.xcim8w448wgwsg88@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.FEB.2010.075858.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
newer, higher resoluion versions.

Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
rarely the case).

Nick

Project Manager
Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
Cultures (PARADISEC)
http://paradisec.org.au

On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> ?Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>
> ?Many thanks again,
>
> ?Rudy
>


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 21:21:23 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:21:23 -1000
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <b66308511002121258x644b3124tcb6934b375efd58a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.112123.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My final (I hope) contribution to this topic ;-)

We should also conciser the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, which states:

If a function x(t) contains no frequencies higher than B hertz, it is completely determined by giving its ordinates at a series of points spaced 1/(2B) seconds apart.

Essentially, you should sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency you will find in your recording. As Bill mentioned, if the highest frequency that human ears can hear is @ 10k, and we divide 22k by 2, 11k is the upper limit. Beyond that you get some aliasing. For human ears, probably not a problem. How about for as-yet unwritten computer software for transcription that can analyze such data, or better noise reduction algorithms that we have today? I dunno. I would still prefer to be safe and keep a copy at the higher rate. The 96k/24 bit standard Nick cites may be overkill, but somewhere down the road our grandchildren may be grateful that it was done for reasons we don't yet comprehend.

KD


On 2010 Pep. 12, at 10:58, Nick Thieberger wrote:

> An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
> tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
> I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
> resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
> transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
> versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
> standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
> standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
> newer, higher resoluion versions.
> 
> Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
> themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
> rarely the case).
> 
> Nick
> 
> Project Manager
> Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
> Cultures (PARADISEC)
> http://paradisec.org.au
> 
> On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>>  Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
>> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
>> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
>> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
>> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
>> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
>> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
>> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>> 
>>  Many thanks again,
>> 
>>  Rudy
>> 



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Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Fri Feb 12 21:25:30 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:25:30 -1000
Subject: Digitizing cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <9D64E8C3-A418-4917-ABCA-B6167D544EA3@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.112530.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

One last peep from me -

A recording engineer friend of mine has an axiom (don't know if it's his or he pirated it) that unless he has four copies of any digital files in four different location, the file doesn't really exist. I could cite an example that involved Kenny Loggins but will refrain from name dropping ;-)

Food for thought when considering backup strategies. As Nick noted, tapes may not survive more than one playback, or vaporize 20 years down the road when lack of sufficient backups bite someone in the behind.  

Keola

On 2010 Pep. 12, at 11:21, Keola Donaghy wrote:

> My final (I hope) contribution to this topic ;-)
> 
> We should also conciser the Nyquist-Shannon theorem, which states:
> 
> If a function x(t) contains no frequencies higher than B hertz, it is completely determined by giving its ordinates at a series of points spaced 1/(2B) seconds apart.
> 
> Essentially, you should sample at twice the rate of the highest frequency you will find in your recording. As Bill mentioned, if the highest frequency that human ears can hear is @ 10k, and we divide 22k by 2, 11k is the upper limit. Beyond that you get some aliasing. For human ears, probably not a problem. How about for as-yet unwritten computer software for transcription that can analyze such data, or better noise reduction algorithms that we have today? I dunno. I would still prefer to be safe and keep a copy at the higher rate. The 96k/24 bit standard Nick cites may be overkill, but somewhere down the road our grandchildren may be grateful that it was done for reasons we don't yet comprehend.
> 
> KD
> 
> 
> On 2010 Pep. 12, at 10:58, Nick Thieberger wrote:
> 
>> An issue that hasn't yet been discussed in relation to digitising old
>> tapes is that it should only be done once. This may sound strange, but
>> I know of several projects where a 'trial' digitisation occurs, at low
>> resolution. These files then become the basis for timecoded
>> transcripts and then, later, the project decided they needed archival
>> versions of the media and redigitised to international archival
>> standards (96khz/24 bit. Yes, I know ths is overkill but it is the
>> standard). Of course, the timecoded transcripts no longer match the
>> newer, higher resoluion versions.
>> 
>> Another motivation for doing it right the first time is that the tapes
>> themselves may not survive more than one playback (although this is
>> rarely the case).
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> Project Manager
>> Pacific and Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
>> Cultures (PARADISEC)
>> http://paradisec.org.au
>> 
>> On 13 February 2010 04:27, Rudy Troike <rtroike at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> 
>>>  Thanks to everyone for the valuable suggestions and discussions re
>>> converting these cassette tapes to CDs. I really appreciate all the input.
>>> FYI, the tapes in question were made in the late 1960s, as part of the
>>> East Texas Dialect Project, recording schoolchildren in East Texas schools
>>> scheduled for integration, to prepare materials for teacher training in
>>> advance of the integration. They are historically valuable, and I hope
>>> someday to be able to interview some of those who were recorded to find if
>>> there have been any changes in their speech during their lifetimes.
>>> 
>>>  Many thanks again,
>>> 
>>>  Rudy
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy                                           
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/
> 
> "T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
> 
> 
> 



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From cdcox at UALBERTA.CA  Fri Feb 12 22:07:47 2010
From: cdcox at UALBERTA.CA (Christopher Cox)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:07:47 -0700
Subject: Question re copying cassette tapes
In-Reply-To: <20100212055024.38C3EB259A@lorax.ldc.upenn.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.150747.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:50 PM, William J Poser <wjposer at ldc.upenn.edu> wrote:
(SNIP)
> (c) use a lower sampling rate
> ? ?If you use a rate of 22.05K, this gives you a savings of 50%
> ? ?at little or no cost in quality. This applies only to pure speech data.
> ? ?Some music may well contain higher frequency components of significance.

I'm not sure that I agree with this point entirely: using a sample
rate of 22,050 Hz should, as both Bill and Keola have pointed out, be
able to reproduce essentially the entire primary frequency range for
speech, from the low 'bass' fundamental frequencies to the upper end
of high-frequency frication.  In that sense, we're not losing anything
by recording language samples for phonetic analysis at this sample
rate, and can certainly save storage space by doing so; 22,050 Hz has
been recommended for a long time in phonetics, even finding its way
into popular textbooks on phonetic fieldwork (e.g. Ladefoged 2003, p.
26).

This doesn't mean that samples recorded at this rate necessarily sound
as good as higher-frequency recordings, though, as Keola mentioned.
Even though this sampling rate captures the essential frequency range
for speech (i.e. up to around 11KHz) , most people's hearing extends
well beyond that into the 20KHz range.  The lower sampling rate might
not incur distortions that would affect phonetic analysis, but there
is usually still an audible difference in quality between recordings
digitized at 44.1KHz versus those digitized at 22.05KHz, and likewise
for higher sampling rates.

I'm not sure that Ladefoged's recommendation of a 22,050 Hz sampling
rate was really made with reuse of recordings outside of phonetics in
mind.  For some other purposes, the 'aesthetic' sound quality of a
recording may be fairly important, maybe particularly if recordings
have some cultural, historical, or even just sentimental value.  If
22,050 Hz was all that was available, there'd certainly be no harm in
choosing it -- but it would seem a shame to make recordings of a lower
audio quality, just because they're all that's needed for instrumental
phonetics!

Anyway, that's just a thought.  For what it's worth, NINCH (2003),
Bartek & Kornbluh (2002), and the "Sound Directions" guide from
Indiana University all appear to recommend 96Khz / 24-bit WAV for
archival purposes:

http://www.nyu.edu/its/humanities//ninchguide/VII/
http://emeld.org/school/readingroom/bartek-paper.pdf
http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/projects/sounddirections/papersPresent/sd_bp_07.pdf

All the best,


-- 
Chris Cox
cdcox at ualberta.ca


From urbansu at UVIC.CA  Fri Feb 12 23:55:40 2010
From: urbansu at UVIC.CA (Suzanne Urbanczyk)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:55:40 -0800
Subject: Longevity of documentation - Has anyone looked into albums?
In-Reply-To: <DD7490A6-CBD9-4154-AFCA-BA36A45FAD45@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.12.FEB.2010.155540.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I have enjoyed reading about the various issues that arise with 
digitizing cassettes.  Many thanks!!

The discussion has reminded me of a larger issue w.r.t. the long-term 
status of audio recordings.  The question I have is whether anyone 
has looked into copying materials onto LPs - the old-fashioned analog 
album?  The reason I ask is that I have been thinking that this might 
be one form of media that has the potential to retain its longevity 
more than others.  Even 50 year old scratched, gummy old albums can 
be cleaned up and played and do not rely on whether this or that 0 or 
1 is at the beginning of the file,  whether the compression algorithm 
changes the signal, the program changes, etc. etc. or whether the 
media is going to disintegrate after being played after 20 years.

The album has been making a come-back lately and there are different 
types of presses that I am aware of, but want to know if anyone knows 
anything more about this.  Ida Halpern (ethnomusicologist) used to 
take a "record-maker" (the picture I saw looked like a "record", not 
a wax cylinder) with her to document music of the Pacific Northwest 
and I wonder if there is anything like what she used that is 
available today.

many thanks,

Su Urbanczyk


From tmp at NUNASOFT.COM  Sat Feb 13 23:27:32 2010
From: tmp at NUNASOFT.COM (Eric Poncet [NunaSoft])
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 18:27:32 -0500
Subject: Longevity of documentation - Has anyone looked into albums?
In-Reply-To: <a05200f28c79b96d51e19@[192.168.0.102]>
Message-ID: <SAT.13.FEB.2010.182732.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi,
Thanks Suzanne for this point on longevity.
Here's my two cents on archiving strategy, and the merciless fight 
against media loss: everytime you get a new computer to replace the 
current one, don't just transfer all your files onto the new computer 
and get rid of the old one: take the old hard drive out of the computer 
and store it in a safe place. As most users, I change computer every 2-5 
years on the average, and my IT experience leads me to believe that the 
average hard drive longevity is significantly longer than 5 years 
(though I have no stats on that point). Over the past 25 years, I've 
always saved my old hard drives and kept them in different safe places. 
I've been able to successfully read files from them whenever I tried to. 
Due to the incremental nature of this strategy, that also means I have 6 
archives of those 25 year old files spread over different places, and 
I'll have 3 more in the next 10 years, etc. Not to mention the automatic 
daily+weekly+monthly backups of my current PC.
Such an incremental archiving scheme would be way harder to implement 
with analog media. The cost? About 10 minutes of work to open that good 
old PC, unscrew the drive and unplug it.
Cheers,
Eric Poncet
CTO
www.nunasoft.com

Suzanne Urbanczyk a ?crit :
> I have enjoyed reading about the various issues that arise with 
> digitizing cassettes.  Many thanks!!
>
> The discussion has reminded me of a larger issue w.r.t. the long-term 
> status of audio recordings.  The question I have is whether anyone has 
> looked into copying materials onto LPs - the old-fashioned analog 
> album?  The reason I ask is that I have been thinking that this might 
> be one form of media that has the potential to retain its longevity 
> more than others.  Even 50 year old scratched, gummy old albums can be 
> cleaned up and played and do not rely on whether this or that 0 or 1 
> is at the beginning of the file,  whether the compression algorithm 
> changes the signal, the program changes, etc. etc. or whether the 
> media is going to disintegrate after being played after 20 years.
>
> The album has been making a come-back lately and there are different 
> types of presses that I am aware of, but want to know if anyone knows 
> anything more about this.  Ida Halpern (ethnomusicologist) used to 
> take a "record-maker" (the picture I saw looked like a "record", not a 
> wax cylinder) with her to document music of the Pacific Northwest and 
> I wonder if there is anything like what she used that is available today.
>
> many thanks,
>
> Su Urbanczyk


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb 14 23:26:51 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:26:51 +1100
Subject: digitising cassettes question and responses
Message-ID: <MON.15.FEB.2010.102651.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers,

I think that many people are going to find the conversation about
digitisation and the long-term sustainability of data very useful.

In order to make them more widely available, I've added all of these
contributions to the RNLD web site under the
FAQ<http://www.rnld.org/node/73>section, with the question:
"Digitising cassettes ? I'm planning to copy
some old language tapes on cassettes to a CD format. What issues do I need
to consider?"

On the linked response <http://www.rnld.org/node/131>, I've included a link
back to ILAT, and all the various contributions together with
acknowledgements and the links included in some postings.

If any of the contributors would like edits to be made to your entry
(including links to your organisation), please let me know.

all the best,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb 15 18:18:09 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:18:09 -0700
Subject: 'Tribal Voice Radio' broadcasting now (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.15.FEB.2010.111809.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

'Tribal Voice Radio' broadcasting now

February 15, 2010
Scott Woodham
USA

According to the Juneau Empire, a new online radio station, "Tribal
Voice Radio," focusing on Tlingit, Haida and Tsimshian news, heritage
and languages launched this morning (2/15) at 8 a.m. The project was
approved last December by the Central Council Tlingit and Haida Indian
Tribes of Alaska The station's mission statement gives a concise
statement of its major goals: "Preserving our sovereignty, enhancing
our economic and cultural resources, and promoting self-sufficiency
and self-governance for our citizens through collaboration, service,
and advocacy."

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http://www.alaskadispatch.com/alaska-beat/235-february-15/4076-tribal-voice-radio-broadcasting-now


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 16 23:11:37 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:11:37 -0700
Subject: ICIPN 2010 - Bovdehus doallat s=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A1hkavuoruid/_?=
 Fi rst call for papers
In-Reply-To: <CCE8552037504846826BDD2E7945FDC48FEAC9F620@SAPOST01.sa.intern>
Message-ID: <TUE.16.FEB.2010.161137.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

fwd
~~~

*VUOSTTA? BOVDEHUS DOALLAT S?HKAVUORUID*



*1.EAMIB**?**IKENAMAID RIIKKAIDGASKA?AS KONFER?NSA*



?ak?am?nu 3.-8. beivviid, 2010 S?mi allaskuvllas Guovdageainnus






S?mi Allaskuvla l?gida vuostta? *Eamib?ikenamaid riikkaidgaskasa?
konfer?nssa* (ICIPN) ja bovde dutkiid geat barget eamib?ikenamaiguin,
searvat d?n vuostta? f?gaidrasttideaddji konfer?nsii. Oktiigeasuid
sisas?dden?igemearri: *15.3.2010*. Eanet die?ut konfer?nssa birra leat
?uvvosis ja neahttasiiddus www.icipn2010.no



*[image: icipn-logo_rev2a-small.-Renee Pualani Louis.jpg]***

* *

* *

*FIRST CALL FOR PAPERS   *

* *

*1st INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON INDIGENOUS PLACE NAMES  *



September 3-8, 2010  S?mi allaskuvla ? S?mi University College,
Guovdageaidnu, Norway



S?mi University College, an Indigenous higher education institution in S?pmi
(S?miland) and host of the first *International Conference on Indigenous
Place Names* (ICIPN) invites scholars from around the world currently
working with Indigenous place names to join this first multidisciplinary
conference. Abstract submission: *March 15, 2010*. For further information,
please look at the flyer enclosed and the webpage www.icipn2010.no













Dearvuo?aiguin  / With regards



*Kaisa Rautio Helander*



on behalf of the secretariat of ICIPN 2010



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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:30:34 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:30:34 -0700
Subject: Apache speakers hang on (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103034.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Apache speakers hang on
 	
By Mark Herz
Larson Newspapers
USA

For Vincent Randall, the Apache culture director at the Yavapai-Apache
Nation near Camp Verde, being a fish out of water can be a good thing.

Especially if the water is English and the fish is one of the
?Dilzh??e,? or ?Hunters,? the native name for the subdivision of the
Apache people that live at the Nation.

Randall, 66, is one of the few native speakers of Western Apache on
the reservation where the younger generations swim almost exclusively
in a sea of English. But he thinks the Apache language can still be
saved at the Yavapai-Apache Nation.

Access full article below:
http://www.journalaz.com/apache%2012-27-06.htm


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:34:16 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:34:16 -0700
Subject: Canada should support the endangered language protection accord
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103416.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Canada should support the endangered language protection accord

February 17, 2010
Nazrul Islam
Canada

The culture sector of UNESCO recently published a chilling report
asserting that more than half of the world?s 6,000 languages are
endangered.

It pointed out that 96 per cent of the world?s languages are spoken by
just four per cent of the world?s population, that 90 per cent of the
world?s languages are not represented on the internet, that one
language disappears on average every two weeks, and that 80 per cent
of African languages have no orthography.

So how and why does this happen, and what?s the impact of this loss of
languages on the social and economic structure of a country?

Access full article below:
http://news.guelphmercury.com/Opinions/EditorialOpinion/article/598397


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 17 17:36:33 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:36:33 -0700
Subject: In America, 191 Languages are Endangered or Extinct (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.103633.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

In America, 191 Languages are Endangered or Extinct

By Mary Silver
Epoch Times

Related articles: United States > National News When Boa Sr of India
died in early February at age 85, her mother tongue died with her. She
spoke Bo, a language thought to be 65,000 years old. In the United
States, 191 languages are threatened or extinct, according to the U.N.
educational, scientific, and cultural organization (UNESCO).

Why is loss of ancient languages important?

"I claim that it (the loss of languages) is catastrophic for the
future of mankind," said University of Alaska Fairbanks Professor
Emeritus Michael Krauss in a Science Daily article about his
presentation on language diversity to the American Association for the
Advancement of Science in 2007.

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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/29892/


From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Feb 17 19:03:13 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:03:13 -0600
Subject: Olympics being broadcast in Indigenous Languages in Canada!
In-Reply-To: <20091210005207.k89a8k0owcs04c4g@www.email.arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.130313.0600.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Check this link for the schedule of events for live broadcast on APTN 
Television in Canada

Broadcast includes:


http://www.aptn.ca/vancouver2010

APTN'S OLYMPIC VOICES
Languages in which sports will be broadcast:

English

French

Cree

Dene

Inuktitut

Mechif

Mi'kmaq

Mohawk

Ojibwa

Oji-Cree



ICE AND SNOW
Events that will be carried on APTN:

Opening and closing ceremonies

Hockey (men's and women's)

Curling

Speed skating

Figure skating

Biathlon

Freestyle skiing

Downhill skiing

Cross-country skiing

Snowboarding

Skeleton

Ski jumping



BY THE NUMBERS
APTN Olympics facts and figures:

Broadcast team: 138 people, in Winnipeg and Vancouver

On-air staff: 36 broadcasters/commentators

Hours of coverage: 214, in English, French and eight aboriginal languages

Budget: $2.5 million
 


From harveyd at SOU.EDU  Wed Feb 17 21:38:27 2010
From: harveyd at SOU.EDU (Dan Harvey)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:38:27 -0800
Subject: ELK: Cross platform key layout and font program
Message-ID: <WED.17.FEB.2010.133827.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I am pleased to announce release of the ELK application (Extended Linguistic Keyboards). This project is an extension of ACORNS (Acquisition of Restored Native Speech), which is freeware software designed to support tribal efforts to support revitalization of language and culture. Its web-site is http://cs.sou.edu/~harveyd/elk 

The motivation for ELK is to enable language teachers to post language lessons to the Web or distribute them on CDs where language students do not have to install custom fonts or keyboard layouts. Unfortunately, there is not a standard mechanism for implementing keyboard layouts that works consistently on all computer platforms. For example, MAC computers use the .keylayout format which does not quite conform to the XML standard. Windows has an application MSKLC, but it creates relational database files that are compiled into a dynamic link library (DLL). Linux systems have a series of text files that work together to solve the problem. There are also other approaches, some commercial and some open source. As stated above, none of these work on all systems in a consistent manner.

ELK runs on any platform, and as such it allows users to create .keylayout files on any system. ACORNS uses this format to embed keyboard layouts into its applications. The project also provides an application interface that is usable by developers to provide similar capabilities in their software. ELK additionally includes a windows-based program (ElkKeyboards) that intercepts key strokes and applies .keylayout specifications to them.  ELK provides another useful and simple mechanism to create a .ttf fonts by dragging and dropping glyphs from a source .ttf file onto a virtual keyboard and clicking the save option.

This project provides the framework for platform-independent XML-based keyboard layout handling.  The software is open-source that can be downloaded and inspected. We welcome suggestions and developer contributions.

Regards,
Dan Harvey
Professor of Computer Science
Southern Oregon University
harveyd at sou.edu
http://cs.sou.edu/~harveyd


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:23:53 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:23:53 -0700
Subject: State settles Yup'ik language ballot lawsuit (UPDATED) (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.152353.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

State settles Yup'ik language ballot lawsuit (UPDATED)

Posted by thevillage
Posted: February 19, 2010 - 10:15 am
USA

The state has settled a lawsuit brought by Yup'ik elders and tribal
councils in Western Alaska demanding that the Division of Elections
provide ballots and other election materials in Yup'ik.

The Attorney General announced the settlement today. The Native
American Rights Fund and the American Civil Liberties Union filed the
suit in 2007, suing the state and the city of Bethel.

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http://community.adn.com/adn/node/148933


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:27:49 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:27:49 -0700
Subject: Critical Shortage of Sami Language Teachers (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.152749.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Critical Shortage of Sami Language Teachers
published Thu 05:41 PM, updated yesterday 10:30 AM

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http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/02/critical_shortage_of_sami_language_teachers_1460131.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:30:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:30:13 -0700
Subject: Nuu-chah-nulth found (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.153013.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nuu-chah-nulth found

By Wawmeesh G. Hamilton - Alberni Valley News
Published: February 18, 2010 1:00 PM
British Columbia, CA

Dennis Bill, a teacher at AW Neill Middle School instructs a class of
23 boys and girls on how to pronounce words as he softly scrawls
letters in dark marker on a whiteboard.

?Chims,? he says. Chim-tuu.? The ?ch? sound is like that in ?chapter,? he adds.

The words are in the Nuu-chah-nulth language. Chims means bear, and
chimtuu squirrel.

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http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_central/albernivalleynews/news/84715892.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Feb 19 22:32:22 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:32:22 -0700
Subject: Calling curling in Cree, Chinese (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.153222.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Friday, February 19, 2010

Calling curling in Cree, Chinese
By GEORGE KARRYS

Access full article below:
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/02/18/12925026-sun.html


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Feb 19 22:46:12 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:46:12 -0700
Subject: Calling curling in Cree, Chinese (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002191432n186168fdgb53156ef6c5626d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.19.FEB.2010.154612.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi all,

Tomorrow, February 20, 2010, one of the Metis languages called Michif by our
Elders will be used to announce an olympic skiing event.  I will be tuning
into APTN!  I hope you will be, too!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> Friday, February 19, 2010
>
> Calling curling in Cree, Chinese
> By GEORGE KARRYS
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.torontosun.com/sports/othersports/2010/02/18/12925026-sun.html
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From jrgall01 at SYR.EDU  Sun Feb 21 01:35:43 2010
From: jrgall01 at SYR.EDU (Jason Robert Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.013543.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello:

My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional information about my project that you might need before you make a decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.   

All the best,

Jason Gallagher
Masters Candidate, Media Studies
Syracuse University


From resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU  Sun Feb 21 01:55:19 2010
From: resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU (Resa C Bizzaro)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:55:19 -0500
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
In-Reply-To: <ED6D38C2D6B2AF42A45BBC472A0F200D05A09B8B@BL2PRD0103MB041.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.205519.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi, Jason. What kind of student groups do you need?

Resa



On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
  Jason Robert Gallagher <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media 
>Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication 
>at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a 
>graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have 
>chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I 
>was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that 
>may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media 
>use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to 
>help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you 
>know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in 
>gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional 
>information about my project that you might need before you make a 
>decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon 
>your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear 
>back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been 
>reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been 
>waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I 
>always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or 
>unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.   
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jason Gallagher
> Masters Candidate, Media Studies
> Syracuse University


From jrgall01 at SYR.EDU  Sun Feb 21 02:01:11 2010
From: jrgall01 at SYR.EDU (Jason Robert Gallagher)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:01:11 +0000
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
In-Reply-To: <web-10539993@embe1.iup.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.020111.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Resa:

I'm looking more for students that self identify as indigenous, First Nations, Metis, Inuit, Mestizo, or  Native American.
_______I_________________________________
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] on behalf of Resa C Bizzaro [resa.bizzaro at IUP.EDU]
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:55 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Survey of Indigenous Online Use

Hi, Jason. What kind of student groups do you need?

Resa



On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:35:43 +0000
  Jason Robert Gallagher <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media
>Studies program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication
>at Syracuse University.  I am currently working on a project for a
>graduate class that concludes with a publishable paper.  I have
>chosen the topic of indigenous use of Internet generated media.  I
>was wondering if I could have access to a group   of students that
>may be interested in taking a brief internet based survey about media
>use in order to gather data for my project.  Would you be able to
>help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do you
>know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in
>gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional
>information about my project that you might need before you make a
>decision, I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon
>your request.  Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear
>back from you soon.  I enjoy all the discussion that I have been
>reading over the last couple of months on this forum, and I have been
>waiting for a moment when I could contribute to the discussion.  I
>always fear that I'm going to come off a little overeager, or
>unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that soon.
>
> All the best,
>
> Jason Gallagher
> Masters Candidate, Media Studies
> Syracuse University


From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sun Feb 21 02:53:31 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:53:31 -0700
Subject: Olympic Coverage in "Mechif".....
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.195331.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,

I am watching the Olympic coverage in "Mechif" as I write this....

It is in Ile la Crosse Michif, which is a unique Metis dialect of CREE,
which is not the same as Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed language as
spoken in Manitoba, central and southern parts of Saskatchewan, North Dakota
and Montana.

There are three languages that our language/culture keepers--Elders from
different Metis communities-- call Michif.  One is Ile a la Crosse
(Metis-Cree dialect spoken in Northern Saskatchewan), another is Michif
French (a unique Metis dialect of French spoken in Metis communities in
Manitoba, Saskatchewan and perhaps elsewhere), and finally Michif (aka
Michif-Cree), the mixed language (well-known to linguists for being
typologically unique--with origins in both Algonquian and Indo-European
languages--mostly Cree and French).  The language called Michif and the two
dialects called Michif are all endangered and need support for their
revitalization.  However, Michif (aka Michif-Cree) is a language only spoken
by Metis people, is the most highly endangered (moribund) and if it
disappears it will be gone.  The situation is  unlike the dialects of Cree
or French called Michif.  We cannot go to our non-Metis relations (the Cree,
the Ojibwe, the French, or Scots, etc.) for help to try to reconstruct or
revive it.

Being that I live in a community that struggling to keep Michif
(Michif-Cree) alive, am an emerging speaker of Michif (Michif-Cree) and that
I am doing my MA on Michif (Michif-Cree) language and linguistics, I would
have wished that one of our fluent Michif (Michif-Cree) speakers (such as
Norman Fleury!)  would have been asked to announce....  Be that as it may,
at least the Olympics were announced in six languages and two Cree
dialects!

Just my two cents worth!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Heather
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From hardman at UFL.EDU  Sun Feb 21 03:23:08 2010
From: hardman at UFL.EDU (MJ Hardman)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:23:08 -0500
Subject: Olympic Coverage in "Mechif".....
In-Reply-To: <6d8c8c411002201853o623adec2wdde4e85fa27e7238@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.222308.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

How lovely!  I am so glad it has happened.  One step.

MJ

Dr. MJ Hardman
Doctora Honoris Causa UNMSM, Lima, Per?
website:  http://at.ufl.edu/~hardman-grove/



On 2/20/10 9:53 PM, "Heather Souter" <hsouter at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Taanshi, 
> 
> I am watching the Olympic coverage in "Mechif" as I write this....?
> 
> It is in Ile la Crosse Michif, which is a unique Metis dialect of CREE, which
> is not the same as Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed language as spoken in
> Manitoba, central and southern parts of Saskatchewan, North Dakota and
> Montana.? 
> 
> There are three languages that our language/culture keepers--Elders from
> different Metis communities-- call Michif.? One is Ile a la Crosse (Metis-Cree
> dialect spoken in Northern Saskatchewan), another is Michif French (a unique
> Metis dialect of French spoken in Metis communities in Manitoba, Saskatchewan
> and perhaps elsewhere), and finally Michif (aka Michif-Cree), the mixed
> language (well-known to linguists for being typologically unique--with origins
> in both Algonquian and Indo-European languages--mostly Cree and French).? The
> language called Michif and the two dialects called Michif are all endangered
> and need support for their revitalization.? However, Michif (aka Michif-Cree)
> is a language only spoken by Metis people, is the most highly endangered
> (moribund) and if it disappears it will be gone.? The situation is? unlike the
> dialects of Cree or French called Michif.? We cannot go to our non-Metis
> relations (the Cree, the Ojibwe, the French, or Scots, etc.) for help to try
> to reconstruct or revive it.?
> 
> Being that I live in a community that struggling to keep Michif (Michif-Cree)
> alive, am an emerging speaker of Michif (Michif-Cree) and that I am doing my
> MA on Michif (Michif-Cree) language and linguistics, I would have wished that
> one of our fluent Michif (Michif-Cree) speakers (such as Norman Fleury!)?
> would have been asked to announce....? Be that as it may, at least the
> Olympics were announced in six languages and two Cree dialects!?
> 
> Just my two cents worth!
> 
> Eekoshi pitamaa.
> Heather
> 

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From pmeyer8 at COX.NET  Sun Feb 21 06:49:51 2010
From: pmeyer8 at COX.NET (Paula Meyer)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:49:51 -0800
Subject: Survey of Indigenous Online Use
Message-ID: <SAT.20.FEB.2010.224951.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello, Jason,
        I cannot give you any people for your survey, but I am answering to 
tell you that a friend of mine, Constance Kampf, wrote her dissertation on 
your topic at the University of Minnesota.  I can't remember the title, but 
you should be able to find it from the U of Minnesota library.  Connie is 
now at Aarhus University in Denmark.  Her email address is:  cka at asb.dk.  I 
hope this is helpful.
Paula

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Robert Gallagher" <jrgall01 at SYR.EDU>
To: <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: [ILAT] Survey of Indigenous Online Use


Hello:

My name is Jason Gallagher.  I am a Masters Candidate in the Media Studies 
program at the S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communication at Syracuse 
University.  I am currently working on a project for a graduate class that 
concludes with a publishable paper.  I have chosen the topic of indigenous 
use of Internet generated media.  I was wondering if I could have access to 
a group   of students that may be interested in taking a brief internet 
based survey about media use in order to gather data for my project.  Would 
you be able to help me gather a group of students for my survey?  If not, do 
you know of an individual who would  be able to provide me some help in 
gathering individuals to take me survey?  If there is any additional 
information about my project that you might need before you make a decision, 
I  would be more than happy to provide you with that upon your request. 
Thank you so much for your help, and I hope to hear back from you soon.  I 
enjoy all the discussion that I have been reading over the last couple of 
months on this forum, and I have been waiting for a moment when I could 
contribute to the discussion.  I always fear that I'm going to come off a 
little overeager, or unacademic, so I tend to lurk.  I hope to break that 
soon.

All the best,

Jason Gallagher
Masters Candidate, Media Studies
Syracuse University 


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 17:51:30 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:51:30 -0700
Subject: Linguists Scramble To Save The World's Languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.105130.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Linguists Scramble To Save The World's Languages

February 21, 2010
By Richard Solash

Radio Free Europe

When Doctor Gregory Anderson and Doctor K. David Harrison set off in
2003 to a few remote villages in Russia's eastern Tomsk Oblast, they
took only the bare essentials: toothbrushes, socks, soap, plus their
microphones, video cameras, audio recorders, and linguistics
textbooks.

What brought them to this isolated corner of central Siberia was a
business conference -- of sorts: a series of meetings with the less
than 25 remaining speakers of Middle Chulym, or Os.

Anderson and Harrison are the two linguists behind the Living Tongues
Institute for Endangered Languages. A U.S.-based nonprofit, it is one
of a handful of initiatives spearheaded by linguists who are
scrambling to save the world's endangered tongues. Experts predict
that by the end of the century, half of the world's 6,700 languages
will be extinct.

Access full article below:
http://www.rferl.org/content/Linguists_Scramble_To_Save_The_Worlds_Languages/1964101.html

Article contains media sample of Vasiliy Gabov speaking Middle Chulym.


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:04:38 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:04:38 -0700
Subject: Native Dancing Ban Lifted in Alaska Village (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.110438.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native Dancing Ban Lifted in Alaska Village

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: February 21, 2010
Filed at 12:00 p.m. ET
USA

NOORVIK, Alaska (AP) -- Bobby Wells has lived all his life in this
remote Alaska village, where the Eskimo dancing of his ancestors was
banned by Quaker missionaries a century ago as primitive idolatry.

Now Wells, 53, and other residents of Noorvik have wholeheartedly
embraced the ancient practice outlawed in the Inupiat Eskimo
settlement, which was established in 1914. Wells, the mayor, said
dancing is not just for the ancient religious practice of shamanism as
the missionaries had believed. It's also a form of worship dating back
to the Bible, a view now held by many in the community of 650.

''This is the way God made us, to express our thankfulness to him with
dancing,'' Wells said.

Access full article below:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/02/21/us/AP-US-Reclaiming-Native-Tradition.html?_r=1


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:07:17 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:07:17 -0700
Subject: Virginia Beavert keeping Sahaptin language alive (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.110717.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

POSTED ON Saturday, February 20, 2010 AT 10:17PM

Virginia Beavert keeping Sahaptin language alive

BY PAT MUIR
YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC
USA

YAKIMA, Wash. -- There are only about 200 or so remaining Sahaptin
speakers, and there may never be another as fluent as 88-year-old
Virginia Beavert.

But Sahaptin, a general term for the language that includes the Yakama
dialect, will live on.

Beavert herself has assured that with the Ichishkiin Sinwit
Yakama/Yakima Sahaptin Dictionary, which will be released next month
by the University of Washington Press.

The translation dictionary, which she co-wrote with University of
Washington linguistics professor Sharon Hargus, comes with a CD of
Beavert pronouncing 9,830 Sahaptin words and phrases.

Access full article below:
http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2010/02/20/virginia-beavert-keeping-sahaptin-language-alive


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:12:03 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:12:03 -0700
Subject: Native leader critical of efforts to preserve language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111203.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Native leader critical of efforts to preserve language

By MARY ELLEN MacINTYRE Truro Bureau
Sat. Feb 20 - 4:54 AM
Noca Scotia, Canada

MILLBROOK ? A Millbrook First Nation band councillor has chastised the
federal government and the Catholic Church for failing to help Mi?kmaq
people preserve their language.

"It?s a sorry state of affairs when two years ago the Prime Minister
of Canada apologized to (the) First Nations. The leaders in Parliament
said ?sorry you lost everything? but no one stood up to say we?ll help
restore your language," Lloyd Johnson said Friday.

"And the same can be said about the Catholic Church. Did they stand up
to help restore the language? No, they didn?t. And if the United
Church of Canada did, they should."

Access full article below:
http://thechronicleherald.ca/NovaScotia/1168593.html


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:14:40 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:14:40 -0700
Subject: Khurshid calls for preservation of languages after UNESCO report
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Khurshid calls for preservation of languages after UNESCO report

Feb 21
India

Minister for Minority Affairs, Mr. Salman Khurshid has called for the
preservation and promotion of languages belonging to linguistic
minorities in view of the UNESCO report that in India 126 languages
are in danger of disappearing.

Access full article below:
http://www.newsonair.com/news.asp?cat=national&id=NN3030


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:16:20 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:16:20 -0700
Subject: Mother tongues nurture sense of cultural identity (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.111620.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Mother tongues nurture sense of cultural identity

Unesco marks International Mother Language Day on Sunday. The day has
been observed since 2000, and aims to promote "linguistic and cultural
diversity and multilingualism", according to un.org.

By Shweta Satyan, Community Solutions Editor
Published: 00:00 February 21, 2010

Access full article below:
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/mother-tongues-nurture-sense-of-cultural-identity-1.585951


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sun Feb 21 18:20:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:20:13 -0700
Subject: More than 248 native languages face serious risk of extinction in
 Latin America (fwd)
Message-ID: <SUN.21.FEB.2010.112013.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Published: Saturday, February 20, 2010
Bylined to: Jennifer Ross

More than 248 native languages face serious risk of extinction in Latin America

PRESS RELEASE
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=88629

On International Mother Language Day, the regional representation for
South and Central America of the United Nations Office of the High
Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) stresses the need for effective
measures to halt the extinction of native languages across the region,
as well as to encourage their use.

The opportunity to use and transmit beliefs and traditions in one's
mother tongue represents not only a cultural right, but an essential
tool for ensuring knowledge of human rights. According to UNESCO, 90%
of the world's languages will disappear in the next 100 years.

South America is one of the most linguistically diverse regions in the
world. According to the UNESCO Interactive Atlas of the World's
Languages in Danger, there are more than 248 languages in Latin
America that are currently considered severely or critically
endangered, including: 14 in Argentina, 4 in Belize, 35 in Bolivia,
178 in Brazil, 8 in Costa Rica, 6 in Chile, 64 in Colombia, 12 in
Ecuador, 1 in El Salvador, 23 in Guatemala, 7 in Honduras, 143 in
Mexico, 8 in Nicaragua, 8 in Panama, 12 in Paraguay, 57 in Peru, 1 in
Uruguay, and 34 in Venezuela.

The Regional Offices of the OHCHR stress the urgency to adopt measures
to implement national and regional linguistic policies. At the same
time, they call on States to encourage intercultural bilingual
education as well as the production of digital contents in native
languages.

The Regional Offices of the OHCHR point out that such rights are
enshrined in Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, The
ILO's Convention No. 169 on Indigenous and Tribal Peoples, and the
Convention on the Rights of the Child, which recognize the right of
indigenous people to use, revitalize, stimulate and preserve their
language.

These instruments establish the responsibility of States to adopt
measures to ensure access for indigenous peoples to education in their
own culture and language, as well as their responsibility to adopt
effective measures to protect and guarantee the exercise of such
rights in political, judicial and administrative instances.

Jennifer Ross
JRoss at ohchr.org


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Feb 22 19:07:26 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:07:26 -0700
Subject: More Than 1 Billion Speakers of Endangered Languages Get Access
 to Technology (fwd link)
Message-ID: <MON.22.FEB.2010.120726.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

More Than 1 Billion Speakers of Endangered Languages Get Access to Technology
Microsoft Local Language Program announces new initiatives to provide
technology access, helping to grow local economies.

REDMOND, Wash., Feb. 22 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- It is estimated that
every 14 days a language dies. This means that during the Winter
Olympic Games, currently happening in Vancouver, B.C., one more of the
more than 7,000 languages spoken on Earth ? many of them not yet
recorded ? will disappear, taking with it centuries of knowledge about
history, culture and the natural environment. Half of those languages
are expected to disappear by the end of this century.

Access full article below:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/more-than-1-billion-speakers-of-endangered-languages-get-access-to-technology-84937407.html


From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Mon Feb 22 21:59:19 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:59:19 +1100
Subject: Mother Language Day news
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.085919.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers and RNLDers (apologies to those on both lists),

There's been a lot of language in the news over the past few days as Mother
Language Day events have taken place around the world. I've added about 30
links to articles on the RNLD Language In the
News<http://www.rnld.org/node/98>page. Jane Simpson has posted a nice
blog <http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/elac/> about IMLD on the Transient Languages
blog with various links to other stories.

cheers,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Consultant linguist
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From saxon at UVIC.CA  Tue Feb 23 17:33:46 2010
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:33:46 -0800
Subject: Certificate In Aboriginal Language Revitalization instructors:
 call for expressions of interest
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002221107r1d21c264ocf4c19cad5f55bc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.093346.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The Certificate In Aboriginal Language Revitalization (CALR) of the En'owkin Centre and the University of Victoria is anticipating starting new community-based cohort programs in BC and northern Canada. Attached please find a call for expressions of interest in teaching in these programs. Excerpt from the call below. The URL for our program is here:
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/aspnet/Program/Detail/?code=BHATI

and for information on courses, here:
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/languages/courses/calr/

There is a growing need in the province [of BC, and more generally] for community-based Indigenous language
programming, and more communities are interested in offering language revitalization courses in
their own communities. The Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization is seeking
expressions of interest from qualified instructors to join our existing cohort of experienced
instructors to expand offerings to meet demand. If you specialize in Indigenous language
teaching, linguistic structures, language curriculum development and programming and /or
revitalization and are interested in teaching in this program, please send us your CV and a
covering letter outlining your experience and interest in teaching in the program and specify
which courses (and locations) you feel you are best suited to teach. While a minimum of an
Undergraduate degree is required to teach, Graduate degrees are preferred.
_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/


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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 17:43:01 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:43:01 -0700
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.104301.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Making technology speak your language

Tuesday, 23 February 2010
UK

Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
globe access technology in their own languages.

According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
knowledge.

Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
die out by the end of the 21st century.

Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
dominant languages used in the computing world.

UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
native languages are not lost.

Access full article below:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From mrb1 at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 18:33:11 2010
From: mrb1 at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Maxine Rose Baptiste)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:33:11 -0800
Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Ab Lang Revit instructor call]
In-Reply-To: <35633.24.129.235.56.1266949338.squirrel@cluster.abccomm.com>
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From: <language at vip.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Subject: [Fwd: Ab Lang Revit instructor call]
To: mrb1 at email.arizona.edu


---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Ab Lang Revit instructor call
From:    "Aliki Marinakis" <aliki at uvic.ca>
Date:    Mon, February 22, 2010 3:28 pm
To:      "Aliki Marinakis" <aliki at uvic.ca>
Cc:      "Brenda Weatherston" <bweather at uvic.ca>
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Language champions, I hope this finds you well.   Please pass this call
for expressions of interest along to anyone you think may be interested in
teaching in this Indigenous Language Revitalization program.  Attached
here in Word and PDF.
Thank you very much!


------------------------------
Aliki Marinakis
University of Victoria
Indigenous language programs coordinator
250-721-7855

Certificate Program in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
UVIC Continuing Studies & Department of Linguistics & En'owkin Centre
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr

Indigenous Education
Faculty of Education
http://www.educ.uvic.ca
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Feb 23 20:14:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:14:45 -0700
Subject: International Mother Language Day (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.131445.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

International Mother Language Day: 21 February 2010
http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php-URL_ID=40278&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html


From dave_pearson at SIL.ORG  Tue Feb 23 21:33:41 2010
From: dave_pearson at SIL.ORG (Dave Pearson)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:33:41 -0000
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <76621a9c1002230943i4ff82a93wcb3c38a4b8c3a6e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.23.FEB.2010.213341.0000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris listening to a French Internet expert describing the ?war? Google and Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet. Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things they are doing to ensure their presence! 

Dave Pearson
SIL International

-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)

Making technology speak your language

Tuesday, 23 February 2010
UK

Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
globe access technology in their own languages.

According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
knowledge.

Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
die out by the end of the 21st century.

Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
dominant languages used in the computing world.

UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
native languages are not lost.

Access full article below:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From tetaka at CS.WAIKATO.AC.NZ  Tue Feb 23 22:04:09 2010
From: tetaka at CS.WAIKATO.AC.NZ (Te Taka Keegan)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:04:09 +1300
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <000a01cab4cf$e64e1fb0$b2ea5f10$@org>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.110409.1300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I'd be really interested to hear about the "war" Google and Microsoft are
waging against the presence of languages on the Internet. Any chance you can
summarise what was said?

Thanks heaps

Te Taka Keegan

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Dave Pearson <dave_pearson at sil.org> wrote:

> Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris
> listening to a French Internet expert describing the ?war? Google and
> Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet.
> Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building
> listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things they
> are doing to ensure their presence!
>
> Dave Pearson
> SIL International
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
>
> Making technology speak your language
>
> Tuesday, 23 February 2010
> UK
>
> Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
> globe access technology in their own languages.
>
> According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
> on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
> forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
> traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
> knowledge.
>
> Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
> die out by the end of the 21st century.
>
> Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
> inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
> isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
> dominant languages used in the computing world.
>
> UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
> native languages are not lost.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html
>



-- 
n?ku noa nei, n?

Te Taka

--------------
Te Taka Keegan, PhD

Pukenga Matua   [Senior Lecturer]
Tari Rorohiko       [Computer Science Dept]
Whare Wananga o Waikato [University of Waikato]
Waea:  (07) 838 4420    Ph: (07) 838 4420
http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~tetaka
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From dzo at BISHARAT.NET  Wed Feb 24 03:26:29 2010
From: dzo at BISHARAT.NET (Don Osborn)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:26:29 +0300
Subject: Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <000a01cab4cf$e64e1fb0$b2ea5f10$@org>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.062629.0300.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dave, Phil, all,

It is an unusual state of affairs but likely due to the size of the organizations? (In which some parts work at counterpurposes to others on issues less central to the organization functioning?) Some of the people high in the Unicode consortium are in Google and MS (despite publicity sometimes way out in front of reality) has done some significant things wrt expanding character ranges of fonts for example. 

Don't forget open source in the mix, which traditionally has had a lot more going on for more languages even if the coverage is uneven and updates sometimes lag (function of user driven model in cases of some less widely spoken languages).

Is the "war" the French expert spoke of really focused on internationalized domain names (IDN)? Or languages as a whole? Reasons given?

Thanks...

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Pearson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 12:34 AM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
> 
> Thanks for this Phil. Today I was at a meeting in UNESCO HQ in Paris
> listening to a French Internet expert describing the ?war? Google and
> Microsoft are waging against the presence of languages on the Internet.
> Meanwhile, my colleague Bill was in a different part of the building
> listening to a Microsoft presentation illustrating all the good things
> they are doing to ensure their presence!
> 
> Dave Pearson
> SIL International
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology
> [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: 23 February 2010 17:43
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: [ILAT] Making technology speak your language (fwd link)
> 
> Making technology speak your language
> 
> Tuesday, 23 February 2010
> UK
> 
> Microsoft and UNESCO are working together to help people across the
> globe access technology in their own languages.
> 
> According to recent reports, one of more than 7,000 languages spoken
> on Earth disappears from the face of our planet every 14 days;
> forgotten languages take with them often unrecorded cultural
> traditions, language-specific histories and thousands of years of
> knowledge.
> 
> Half of the languages spoken around the world today are expected to
> die out by the end of the 21st century.
> 
> Technology has brought this world many fantastic - and live-saving
> inventions. It has also been influential in the segregation and
> isolation of millions of people who can't speak or understand the
> dominant languages used in the computing world.
> 
> UNESCO is working with a number of technology partners to ensure
> native languages are not lost.
> 
> Access full article below:
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/making-
> technology-speak-your-language-1908197.html


From saxon at UVIC.CA  Wed Feb 24 19:13:24 2010
From: saxon at UVIC.CA (Leslie Saxon)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:13:24 -0800
Subject: FW: Urgent call:  Language Nest Workshop
In-Reply-To: <C7AAB979.83C1%aliki@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.111324.0800.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please see below for a call for facilitators for a Language Nest Workship taking place in Kamloops, BC at the end of March, 2010.

_________________________________
Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC     V8W 3P4
(250) 721-7433 (office)
(250) 721-7423 (fax)
http://www.uvic.ca/ling/

Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr/



------ Forwarded Message
From: Aliki Marinakis <aliki at uvic.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:09:43 -0800
To: Aliki Marinakis <aliki at uvic.ca>
Cc: Deanna Daniels <deanna at fphlcc.ca>
Subject: Urgent call:  Language Nest Workshop

Hello all,

Deanna Daniels from First Peoples' Heritage, Language, and Culture Council asked that I forward this on to anyone who might be interested, or know someone who would be interested in facilitating this workshop.  Please distribute widely!

Call attached.

Thank you!!

-------------------------------
Aliki Marinakis
University of Victoria
Indigenous Language Programs Coordinator Trish.Rosborough at gov.bc.ca
250-721-7855

Indigenous Education
Faculty of Education
http://www.educ.uvic.ca

Certificate Program in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
UVIC Continuing Studies & Department of Linguistics & En'owkin
http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/calr

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Feb 24 20:31:01 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:31:01 -0700
Subject: Tribe develops language immersion program (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.133101.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Tribe develops language immersion program

Published: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:31 AM EST
By Lynn Fischer
Sun Special Writer
USA

The Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe is revitalizing their native
language within their community.

In hopes of preserving the Anishinaabe language, the tribe has
developed a new language immersion program from the ground up.

Rhonda Hopkins, Anishinaabe Language Revitalization Department
Director for the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe, grew up speaking this
indigenous language.

I didnt learn English until I was 6 years old, Hopkins said. She was
raised on an Indian reservation on Manitoulin Island in Ontario,
Canada.

Hopkins said the language is in danger and revitalization is necessary.

Access full article below:
http://www.themorningsun.com/articles/2010/02/24/life/srv0000007684945.txt


From whalen at HASKINS.YALE.EDU  Wed Feb 24 22:21:10 2010
From: whalen at HASKINS.YALE.EDU (Doug Whalen)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:21:10 -0500
Subject: Grant Writing Manual for Language Work
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.172110.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear all,
The Endangered Language Fund is pleased to announce the availability  
of the handbook entitled "Grant Writing for Indigenous Languages," by  
Ofelia Zepeda and Susan Penfield.  It is aimed primarily at U.S.  
tribes seeking U.S. funds, so we hope this will be of use to  
subscribers of this list.  Please feel free to make use of this  
document, within limits of the copyright retained by the Arizona Board  
of Regents on behalf of the University of Arizona.  The manual can be  
found at:
http://www.endangeredlanguagefund.org/pdf/grant_writing.pdf
If you are not a tribal member but work with a tribe, please pass this  
information along to those who might be interested.
Doug Whalen DhW, President, ELF

Douglas H. Whalen, President
Endangered Language Fund
300 George St., Suite 900
New Haven, CT  06511
USA
+1-203-865-6163, ext. 265 (or 234 for whalen)
elf at endangeredlanguagefund.org


From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Wed Feb 24 22:35:20 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:35:20 -0500
Subject: Grant Writing Manual for Language Work
In-Reply-To: <E5756B53-EBEF-4B78-A6C1-86512445802E@HASKINS.YALE.EDU>
Message-ID: <WED.24.FEB.2010.173520.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This is marvelous! What a wonderful resource. Thank you Drs Zepeda and
Penfield for writing it and making it freely available!
Claire

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Doug Whalen <whalen at haskins.yale.edu>wrote:

> Dear all,
> The Endangered Language Fund is pleased to announce the availability of the
> handbook entitled "Grant Writing for Indigenous Languages," by Ofelia Zepeda
> and Susan Penfield.  It is aimed primarily at U.S. tribes seeking U.S.
> funds, so we hope this will be of use to subscribers of this list.  Please
> feel free to make use of this document, within limits of the copyright
> retained by the Arizona Board of Regents on behalf of the University of
> Arizona.  The manual can be found at:
> http://www.endangeredlanguagefund.org/pdf/grant_writing.pdf
> If you are not a tribal member but work with a tribe, please pass this
> information along to those who might be interested.
> Doug Whalen DhW, President, ELF
>
> Douglas H. Whalen, President
> Endangered Language Fund
> 300 George St., Suite 900
> New Haven, CT  06511
> USA
> +1-203-865-6163, ext. 265 (or 234 for whalen)
> elf at endangeredlanguagefund.org
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Feb 25 22:48:39 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:48:39 -0700
Subject: Athabascan linguist, tradition bearer Katherine Peter dies (fwd)
Message-ID: <THU.25.FEB.2010.154839.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Athabascan linguist, tradition bearer Katherine Peter dies

by Mary Beth Smetzer / msmetzer at newsminer.com
USA

FAIRBANKS ? Athabascan tradition bearer Katherine Peter died early
Wednesday morning at home in Fairbanks.

Throughout her life Katherine, 92, shared her vast store of
traditional knowledge, skills and experience in a myriad of ways, most
notably through her work at the Alaska Native Language Center at the
University of Alaska Fairbanks.

Access full article below:
http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/6459797/article-Athabascan-linguist--tradition-bearer-Katherine-Peter-dies-?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1


From nflrc at HAWAII.EDU  Sat Feb 27 03:10:52 2010
From: nflrc at HAWAII.EDU (National Foreign Language Resource Center)
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:10:52 -1000
Subject: New NFLRC publications
Message-ID: <FRI.26.FEB.2010.171052.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha!  The National Foreign Language Resource Center (NFLRC) is pleased to 
announce its newest publication:

"Research Among Learners of Chinese as a Foreign Language" (Michael E. Everson 
& Helen H. Shen, editors)

Cutting-edge in its approach and international in its authorship, this fourth 
monograph in a series sponsored by the Chinese Language Teachers Association 
features eight research studies that explore a variety of themes, topics, and 
perspectives important to a variety of stakeholders in the Chinese language 
learning community. Employing a wide range of research methodologies, the 
volume provides data from actual Chinese language learners and will be of value 
to both theoreticians and practitioners alike. [in English & Chinese]


Other new NFLRC publications:

"Toward Useful Program Evaluation in College Foreign Language Education" (John 
M. Norris, John McE. Davis, Castle Sinicrope, & Yukiko Watanabe, editors)

"Second Language Teaching and Learning in the Net Generation" (Raquel Oxford & 
Jeffrey Oxford, editors)



For more information on these and other NFLRC publications, visit:

http://nflrc.hawaii.edu/publications.cfm



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From thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU  Sat Feb 27 12:50:04 2010
From: thien at UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Nick Thieberger)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:50:04 +1100
Subject: A Cultural Revival - The spirit of Japan's Ainu artists
In-Reply-To: <b66308511002270448p12d41445nd2bcd9b432ee9819@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.27.FEB.2010.235004.1100.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126699701149750779.html

By LUCY BIRMINGHAM

Koji Yuki was 20 years old when he turned against his father and
buried his Ainu identity. That was the year Shoji Yuki died; a radical
activist, he had long fought to win legal rights for the Ainu, Japan's
underclass, and have them recognized as an indigenous people. More
than a century of government-backed racial and social discrimination
and forced assimilation had stripped the once-proud hunter-gatherers
and tradesmen of their identity and livelihood.


Singer Mina Sakai performs new works in the Ainu language (as well as
in Japanese and English), accompanying herself on an amplified
tonkori. The Ainu people's only stringed instrument, it was used
originally by shamans to communicate with the kamuy, or spirits in
nature.

The Ainu cause had torn apart the Yuki family. "My father divorced my
mother when I was young and devoted himself to the Ainu liberation
movement," says Mr. Yuki. "I couldn't understand the way he lived his
life."

Years later, Mr. Yuki changed his mind about his father's efforts, and
today the son is himself a powerful voice for the Ainu. But he speaks
through culture rather than politics, as one of the leaders of a
remarkable revival of Ainu arts, dance and music -- with a cool,
contemporary edge.