Indigenous Peoples Issues & Resources
Rolland Nadjiwon
mikinakn at SHAW.CA
Tue Jul 6 05:24:45 UTC 2010
'...nibbling bits with foreign feeling teeth.', '...average smart
guys....' I love it.
'...a good marriage guarantees a good sobering encounter with
humility....' My wife went to visit her sister last Wednesday. I called
to ask how she was doing. My wife was resting so her sister got the
phone. I asked her to tell my wife I had called. Her sister called back
to let me know she told my wife, 'Rolland called while you were
resting.' and my wife said, '...who....' She isn't even owl clan!!!!
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> wahjeh
> rolland nadjiwon
> ______________________________________________
>
> A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
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> Perhaps it is only the poets, artists and medicine people/ spiritual
> leaders that take us beyond science and back again....
>
> Eekoshi.
> Heather
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net
> <mailto:rzs at wildblue.net>> wrote:
>
> hey Rolland,
> thanks for sharing this poem...
> i'm glad you had a moment of shamelessness to put it out there.!
>
> I don't know, your last comment sure made my lips pull back on "my
> foreign feeling" teeth ....
> /*"Not to be blasphemous or initiate aggression, I have always
> believed poets and artists */
> /*can also take you beyond where science cannot go..."*/
> ....to smile of course!
>
> Making stuff is as ancient as it gets...chipping out stone
> scraping and chopping tools,
> and just about defines us as "creators"
> I think ol' Hawkins was so dang brilliant he probably realized how
> little he knew
> and was peaceful about accepting even mysterious possibilities.
>
> Most of us average smart guys simply have a hard time admitting to
> truckloads of ignorance.
> Thankfully a good marriage guarantees a good sobering encounter
> with humility when we need it.
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon
> <mikinakn at shaw.ca <mailto:mikinakn at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Richard...that would be great...to receive your
> writings. I have no idea what the course will be by the time
> it is finished but with so many ideas to bring forward and the
> ideas the students will input, the course should finish but
> not end...kinda spiral like.
>
> The image is great and takes me to images of Uroborus.
> Interesting also how the image clearly shows what is outside
> the spiral is also the spiral...a bit of shameless self
> promotion here...the first poem in my book of poems, 'seven
> deer dancing' reads as follows:
>
> *oscillations*
>
> you must sleep
> you must dream
>
> your dreaming
> must dream me
> or i cannot dream you
> into my dream
>
> breathing--
>
> in and out
> motionless
> under archaic lapis
>
> in and out
> like a bronze man breathing
> his azury breath
> at the azury centre of time
> released from all destructions—
>
> "what does all this have to do with technology? I wanna hear
> about the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!" I think it
> all indicates so clearly how extremely far technology has
> still to come... Stephen Hawking, in my very bad paraphrase,
> suggests physics, science, technology can take us only to the
> 'event'. Gods must take you beyond. Not to be blasphemous or
> initiate aggression, I have always believed poets and artists
> can also take you beyond where science cannot go...
>
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> wahjeh
> rolland nadjiwon
> ______________________________________________
>
> A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
> ______________________________________________
>
>
>
> On 05/07/2010 10:27 PM, Richard Zane Smith wrote:
>> Hey thats pretty interesting Heather,
>> something pretty universal with that thing.
>> I wonder if maybe someones thinking "what does all this have
>> to do with technology?
>> I wanna hear about the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!"
>> For scientists,(poor things),it'll almost take a Physics
>> approach to come even near this stuff.
>> Oh and Rolland ,
>> yeah! use what you want , of course! I'm honored!
>> i've been writing more stuff about the spiral .... for what
>> its worth,
>> I can send it to you. I think the Spiral can be an ancient
>> key to open
>> basic universals of Change, Pattern and Mystery that can
>> apply to everything from
>> the cycles of days,months,years,ages, human life patterns,
>> to describing the birth rise peak decline and collapse of
>> civilizations (see jpg)
>> of religions, of personal life and cultural life. Maybe as an
>> artist/craftsman
>> I like to see simple basic patterns in things.... nothing
>> fancy or high-tech...
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Heather Souter
>> <hsouter at gmail.com <mailto:hsouter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Taanshi.
>>
>> Wahwaa! Tapwee lii boñ nistwer. Kihchi-maarsii!
>> Wow! Some really wonderful stories. Thank-you very much!
>>
>> I remember having to write "my own cosmology" for a
>> course I did at UBC some years ago.... The images that
>> came to my mind were of spirals within spirals and
>> multiple "returns to origin".... It was nothing like
>> what I had been taught in the course
>> (Geophysics/Astrophysics)! LOL! Anyhow, I continue
>> to ponder the images ever since....
>>
>> Kihchi-maarsii por tii parol! Thank-you for your words!
>>
>> Eekoshi. That's it.
>> Heather Souter
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon
>> <mikinakn at shaw.ca <mailto:mikinakn at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> ...that is so great and strengthening to hear such
>> positive comments and postings...a good feeling to
>> know everyone we really need is already
>> here...megwetch MJ Hardman...
>>
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>> wahjeh
>> rolland nadjiwon
>> ______________________________________________
>>
>> A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
>> ______________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/07/2010 4:02 PM, MJ Hardman wrote:
>>> Ay, Rolland, write what you remember, to leave it
>>> for your grandchildren and their grandchildren; you
>>> are right, I’m sure, that those who are gone knew
>>> you would remember.
>>>
>>> My husband has just done that — from what his
>>> grandparents and other elders born in the 19th
>>> century told him. It took him some 15 years. He is
>>> now in his 90s and now, finally, his book is in
>>> press, some 600 pages, at the Universidad de San
>>> Marcos, and they say that it will be used not only
>>> in Tupe but in the whole Province for students in
>>> high school so they may have a history of their own.
>>> It is time.
>>>
>>> He drew three maps, one for before the Spanish, one
>>> for after and one modern. And now he’s thinking of
>>> the next book, of all the more that he’s remembered.
>>>
>>> MJ
>>>
>>> On 7/5/10 12:30 PM, "Rolland Nadjiwon"
>>> <mikinakn at SHAW.CA <http://mikinakn@SHAW.CA>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My wife, my children, my grandchildren tell me I
>>> am becoming forgetful. More of the
>>> material/consumerism I see today is becoming
>>> less important and I find myself thinking about
>>> the many things from all my grandparents/elders
>>> I thought I had forgotten. I realize now, they
>>> knew I would remember....
>>>
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>>> wahjeh
>>>
>>> rolland nadjiwon
>>>
>>
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