From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 22:19:25 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:19:25 -0700
Subject: Indigenous Australia bolsters film, sound archive (fwd media link)
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.151925.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Indigenous Australia bolsters film, sound archive

August 31, 2010 08:59:06
Australia

The project to preserve important and iconic parts of Australia's film and
sound history has been expanded again this year to include new pointers to
the evolution of Australia's indigenous and settler relations.

Access full article below:
http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/pacbeat/stories/201008/s2998083.htm
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 23:09:11 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:09:11 -0700
Subject: Israel sponsors Dubbo Indigenous languages hub (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.160911.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Israel sponsors Dubbo Indigenous languages hub

Australia

The Embassy of Israel is financing an IT centre that will give Indigenous
Australians a new way to share their traditional stories.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/02/3000268.htm?site=indigenous&topic=latest
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 23:45:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:45:13 -0700
Subject: New Zoom H1 coming
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinShvohR3LUQ8MWZO7Fua5DQvF1yfWH2Ff-H43b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.164513.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I want to briefly add that using a video camera has its challenges as much
as audio recording.  For example, setting up your camera in front of a
consultant/elder is not the best way to proceed (as I come to learn!) as the
person may freeze up before the camera when it comes time to turn it on.
Deer in the headlights kind of thing.  What I started to do was to have my
camera ready to run once I arrived at my location (tripod, audio mic, plug
ready, etc.).  Some elders start without any hesitation or cues from you, so
you have to be ready!  It also helped that I had the camera positioned below
head level (from the floor) rather than at eye level, etc.  This prevents
"looking" into the camera via our normal eye gaze behavior.  Often I sat
next to the camera rather than behind the camera.  However, if they gestured
quite a bit, as is common, then you may have to sit behind the camera to
capture extraordinary occasional gestures (via the movement of the camera
frame).    All of this describes a interview session on par with audio
recording.  As with most anything, grasping the visual/audio know how can
only come with experience and practice.

Phil Cash Cash (Cayuse/Nez Perce)
University of Arizona




On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Claire Bowern <clairebowern at gmail.com>wrote:

> Daryn you'll be driving a Mazda next!
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Daryn McKenny <daryn at acra.org.au> wrote:
> > Mine is ordered and is two weeks away from arriving on our Island.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our kit will then comprise H4, H4n x 2, Q3 and then this H1 – zoom zoom
> zoom
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 1:46 AM
> > To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ILAT] New Zoom H1 coming
> >
> >
> >
> > I want one!
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Daryn McKenny <daryn at acra.org.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have just posted this on the RNLD list, but seeing as though Australia
> is
> > last on the list to get the exciting things I was wondering if anyone
> else,
> > somewhere, already has one and can comment on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > As posted on RNLD:
> >
> >
> >
> > Unless you already know about it this is going to be a hum dinger I
> reckon,
> > price per  performance is going to be hard to beat, $149au
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h1/index.php
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.musoscorner.com.au/site/index.cfm?module=STORETIGERV2&bit=products&product_id=197597&cart_id=C06F782E-AB6D-A388-0A241EA085D7C4C4
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Daryn McKenny
> >
> >
> >
> > Arwarbukarl Cultural Resource Association Inc. Trading as:
> >
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> > www.acra.org.au & www.miromaa.com.au
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Thu Sep  2 05:12:21 2010
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 01:12:21 -0400
Subject: Amazon Watch
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.011221.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

  Sign maybe or just watch the vids...time well spent....

http://amazonwatch.org/?utm_source=Amazon+Watch+Newsletter+and+Updates&utm_campaign=8e438d2e99-Message_from_Pandora_alert&utm_medium=email 


-------
wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon
______________________________________________

"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is
the mind of the oppressed."
______________________________________________


From qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU  Thu Sep  2 15:03:01 2010
From: qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU (Quincee Baker)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:03:01 -0500
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.100301.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance.

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From jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  2 18:01:53 2010
From: jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Jessica Fae Nelson)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:01:53 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <8BA579FF69CAE64490A73CC0DA1027D920315B5AA8@MATO.fbcc.bia.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.110153.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a
dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity,
anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will
have different advice.  It's freeware:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.

Hope this helps.

Jessica

2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>

>  Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of
> equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2)
> what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from
> the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you
> for your suggestions in advance.
>
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  2 18:59:18 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:59:18 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzbqx99Oxkg9ofjKaCvNFzuyVqSbRkMo8NX_43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.115918.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if
you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple
solution.

Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection
yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called
RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out"
from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I
can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as
audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS
player, maybe in the back.

Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.

What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using
the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.

Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug"
adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect
directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H
out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out
there somewhere.

Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your
computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the
audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.
Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust
for input levels.

Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in
Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.

If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation
on getting a VHS to dvd deck.

Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or
correct.

Phil
UofA




Next,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <
jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a
> dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity,
> anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will
> have different advice.  It's freeware:
>
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
>
> It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jessica
>
> 2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>
>
>  Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of
>> equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2)
>> what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from
>> the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you
>> for your suggestions in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:30:26 2010
From: qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU (Quincee Baker)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:30:26 -0500
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimFT1nREqzmgf8C9ucaO9BVPUpjXWG0dQ_TPtF5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.163026.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thank you.

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple

To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple solution.

Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out" from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS player, maybe in the back.

Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.

What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.

Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug" adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out there somewhere.

Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.  Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust for input levels.

Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.

If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation on getting a VHS to dvd deck.

Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or correct.

Phil
UofA




Next,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <jfnelson at email.arizona.edu<mailto:jfnelson at email.arizona.edu>> wrote:
As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity, anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will have different advice.  It's freeware:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.

Hope this helps.

Jessica
2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu<mailto:qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>>

Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance.



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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:39:54 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:39:54 -1000
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <8BA579FF69CAE64490A73CC0DA1027D920315B5B06@MATO.fbcc.bia.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.113954.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.

I attended a meeting this summer with some mainland folks who specialize in digitization and archiving of audio and video resources from every imaginable format going back to wax cylinders. They did a very informative presentation that included a discussion of the obsolescence of various technologies, and how difficult and sometimes impossible it is to find parts and equipment for some formats. This may be true of VHS before we know it. I'd buy a couple (actually have one already) and put the others into storage for future use, perhaps future generations to use.

Just my 2 cents.

Keola


On 2010 Kep. 2, at 11:30, Quincee Baker wrote:

> Thank you.
>  
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
>  
> To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple solution.  
> 
> Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out" from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS player, maybe in the back.  
> 
> Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.
> 
> What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.  
> 
> Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug" adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out there somewhere.  
> 
> Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.  Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust for input levels.  
> 
> Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.  
> 
> If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation on getting a VHS to dvd deck.  
> 
> Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or correct.  
> 
> Phil
> UofA
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Next,
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity, anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will have different advice.  It's freeware:
> 
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> 
> It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jessica
> 
> 2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>
>  
> Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance. 
>  
>  
>  



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From klokeid at UVIC.CA  Thu Sep  2 21:51:16 2010
From: klokeid at UVIC.CA (Terry J. Klokeid)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:51:16 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <87A8CE2C-6B92-4B2F-960D-172F6CCFF090@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.145116.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On 02-09-2010, at 2:39 pm, Keola Donaghy wrote:

> Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.

Inexpensive stand-alone DVD recorders are also available. I have a couple made by Sanyo, I am sure there are other brands. Then you just hook the VHS player to the DVD recorder, and it makes a DVD for you, without connecting to a computer.


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:55:28 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:55:28 -1000
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <3C4310A7-DE78-48E7-BAC0-DFC059F1FF7A@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.115528.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha, yes, this can be done too. I'm more concerned about having the ability to playback VHS in the perhaps not-too-distant future. DVD may go the way of the Edsel someday, too, but it's not an immediate concern.

My reply was a bit off-topic to the initial question, but thought I'd share those experiences regarding format obsolescence while they were fresh in my mind ;-)

Keola

On 2010 Kep. 2, at 11:51, Terry J. Klokeid wrote:

> On 02-09-2010, at 2:39 pm, Keola Donaghy wrote:
> 
>> Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.
> 
> Inexpensive stand-alone DVD recorders are also available. I have a couple made by Sanyo, I am sure there are other brands. Then you just hook the VHS player to the DVD recorder, and it makes a DVD for you, without connecting to a computer.



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From Jimrem at AOL.COM  Fri Sep  3 12:24:30 2010
From: Jimrem at AOL.COM (Jimrem at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:24:30 EDT
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.082430.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order  a 
couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks 
are  getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low 
that it  should be economically feasible.
 
 
One problem is that if you want to make audio only copies from  your DVDs 
many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB  format.  That is fine 
to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard  to find a decent program 
to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as  a sound file.
 
If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into your  
computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
 
Jim
 
Jim  Rementer
Lenape Language Project
Bartlesville, OK,  74006
[www.talk-lenape.org] 
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 14:51:49 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 07:51:49 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <146d39.4419a613.39b242fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.075149.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This sounds like it should be some web page somewhere.

I purchased this to get vhs video onto my computer.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/easy-vhs-to-dvd/mac/overview.html

The cost was like $100 CAD.

It creates mp4 and mov files.  I can also extract the audio using audacity.

Neskie Manuel


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:24 AM,  <Jimrem at aol.com> wrote:
>>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a
>>> couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks
>>> are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low
>>> that it should be economically feasible.
>
>
> One problem is that if you want to make audio only copies from your
> DVDs many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB format.  That is
> fine to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard to find a decent
> program to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as a sound file.
>
> If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into your
> computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Rementer
> Lenape Language Project
> Bartlesville, OK, 74006
> [www.talk-lenape.org]
>



-- 
Neskie Manuel
http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
Tel: (250) 434-5734
SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
Skype: neskiemanuel
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 18:48:52 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:48:52 -0500
Subject: Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....
In-Reply-To: <D4E9ADEA-914D-4D15-84EA-99E2E2AF8A8A@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.134852.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi, Keola,

Thanks for the heads up!

I have now tested the ICD-SX750 for Mac compatibility.  It is as simple as
plugging into a USB port, clicking on "IC Recorder" icon on the desktop and
then dragging and dropping the files.  I then played both a .wav (LPCM at
44.1Hz) and an .mp3 file by simply clicking on them.  They both opened up
immediately and played on my default player (iTunes).  I then opened the
.wav file using Transcriber.  There were no problems either.  So, it seems
that the ICD-SCX750--in contrast to the ICD-MX20-- really is Mac
compatable.  That said, I almost wish I had waited just a few days more and
I would have been able to get a Zoom H1....  Maybe next time!  LOL!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Hehater

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Keola Donaghy <donaghy at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Heather, have you tested the Mac compatibility? I have an ICD-MX20, and in
> all recording modes it uses Sony's proprietary compression, which cannot be
> read on any Mac program I'm aware of  (this was based on testing and
> research 2 years ago when I bought it; perhaps that's changed). When I
> bought the unit I too was told it was "Mac compatible. The unit will mount
> on a Mac, but the files are unreadable/unplayable. I've always had to load
> them on a PC, convert to WAV or MP3, then transfer to my Mac. Perhaps your
> model is different and allows you to record uncompressed or using a
> compression scheme that is Mac readable.
>
> Keola
>
> On 2010 ʻAu. 30, at 10:38, Heather Souter wrote:
>
> I just purchased Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder to use in
> field recording.   I got it on sale for about $150CAD and am hoping it is a
> sound purchase (PC/MAC compatiable, records in Linear PCM in both 22.05 and
> 44.2Hz....).  I have a good XLR mic and need to purchase a XLR to stereo
> mini-jack transformer cable.  I am thinking of going with a Hosa but if
> anyone has a different suggestion, please advise.
>
> BTW, thanks to some recent comments on the list about the impact of
> weird-looking recording gadgets on Eldersilat, I will be keeping my wind
> sock on my voice recorder at almost all times!
>
>
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Edonaghy/>
>
> "Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
>
>
>
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 19:10:47 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 19:10:47 +0000
Subject: Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=OXvxwka3q9fqc9TVVcTHPe69xYj8rE5eBRSR2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.191047.0000.>

We have used a similar model recorder for our audio recordings and it has worked very well although when I download files to my computer I name the files but if I open them in Itunes, I lose the file names because Itunes displays titles and so does my MP3 player. I wish I knew how to name thee titles. We have thousands of recordings so labelling them all is necessary. 


Cathy W 
First Languages Speaking Project Inc. 
www.allanadam.com
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-----Original Message-----
From:         Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Indigenous Languages and Technology <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Date:         Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:48:52 
To: <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Reply-To:     Indigenous Languages and Technology <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....

Taanshi, Keola,

Thanks for the heads up!

I have now tested the ICD-SX750 for Mac compatibility.  It is as simple as
plugging into a USB port, clicking on "IC Recorder" icon on the desktop and
then dragging and dropping the files.  I then played both a .wav (LPCM at
44.1Hz) and an .mp3 file by simply clicking on them.  They both opened up
immediately and played on my default player (iTunes).  I then opened the
.wav file using Transcriber.  There were no problems either.  So, it seems
that the ICD-SCX750--in contrast to the ICD-MX20-- really is Mac
compatable.  That said, I almost wish I had waited just a few days more and
I would have been able to get a Zoom H1....  Maybe next time!  LOL!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Hehater

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Keola Donaghy <donaghy at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Heather, have you tested the Mac compatibility? I have an ICD-MX20, and in
> all recording modes it uses Sony's proprietary compression, which cannot be
> read on any Mac program I'm aware of  (this was based on testing and
> research 2 years ago when I bought it; perhaps that's changed). When I
> bought the unit I too was told it was "Mac compatible. The unit will mount
> on a Mac, but the files are unreadable/unplayable. I've always had to load
> them on a PC, convert to WAV or MP3, then transfer to my Mac. Perhaps your
> model is different and allows you to record uncompressed or using a
> compression scheme that is Mac readable.
>
> Keola
>
> On 2010 ʻAu. 30, at 10:38, Heather Souter wrote:
>
> I just purchased Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder to use in
> field recording.   I got it on sale for about $150CAD and am hoping it is a
> sound purchase (PC/MAC compatiable, records in Linear PCM in both 22.05 and
> 44.2Hz....).  I have a good XLR mic and need to purchase a XLR to stereo
> mini-jack transformer cable.  I am thinking of going with a Hosa but if
> anyone has a different suggestion, please advise.
>
> BTW, thanks to some recent comments on the list about the impact of
> weird-looking recording gadgets on Eldersilat, I will be keeping my wind
> sock on my voice recorder at almost all times!
>
>
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Edonaghy/>
>
> "Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
>
>
>

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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep  4 00:35:31 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 19:35:31 -0500
Subject: Questions regarding Sony Voice Recorders and mp3 title/artist
 notations and iTunes and mp3 title/artist notations
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.193531.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,



If I download mp3 files recorded on a Sony ICD-SX750 to a Mac and use iTunes
to create a CD,  is it only possible to save the data as .aiff files?  If
yes, is this why the information encoded does not show up when played by
non-Mac players?  If no, how do I create "non-aiff" CDs using iTunes?  Or,
is there a free audio management/CD burning tool that I can use on a Mac to
create CDs with mp3 files that can be read by PCs, car audio systems,
non-iPod mp3 players as well as Macs and iPods?

Thanks for reading this!

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That's it for now.

Heather
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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Sat Sep  4 00:42:38 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 14:42:38 -1000
Subject: Questions regarding Sony Voice Recorders and mp3 title/artist
 notations and iTunes and mp3 title/artist notations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGKz2WzqyWKNgmKoZM8+dn5PRj3xggesoCS7H-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.144238.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Heather, when you burn an audio CD you lose all that information, it is not stored in AIF files, nor WAV (if I'm not mistaken, in WAVs as well, but not sure). MP3, AAC, MP4 and other formats allow you to store that meta-data along with the audio.It is an audio CD. What you want to do is make a data CD and simply copy the MP3s to it.

If you want to make a data CD that can be read on PC, you need to format a CD for PC on your Mac (yes, you can do this). Don't use iTunes to burn the CD, or it will simply convert them back and you lose the meta-data. Drag them to the CD icon from iTunes, and just burn the CD in the Finder. The "burn" icon should appear in the left hand column of your finder window; it looks like the "nuclear waste" icon you also see in iTunes, if I'm not mistaken.

This CD you can use to copy them to a PC. Also, since they are MP3s, you can copy many more to a CD since they are compressed. You can put perhaps 100 MP3s or more on a data CD like this, whereas you may only get 10-15 in AIFF.

Keola

On 2010 Kep. 3, at 14:35, Heather Souter wrote:

> If I download mp3 files recorded on a Sony ICD-SX750 to a Mac and use iTunes to create a CD,  is it only possible to save the data as .aiff files?  If yes, is this why the information encoded does not show up when played by non-Mac players?  If no, how do I create "non-aiff" CDs using iTunes?  Or, is there a free audio management/CD burning tool that I can use on a Mac to create CDs with mp3 files that can be read by PCs, car audio systems, non-iPod mp3 players as well as Macs and iPods?



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sat Sep  4 01:47:59 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 18:47:59 -0700
Subject: Saving First Nations languages from extinction (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.184759.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saving First Nations languages from extinction

Last Updated: Friday, September 3, 2010 | 4:48 AM ET
Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/02/nbvotes-analysis-andrea-bear-nicholas-first-nations-language.html
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sun Sep  5 14:11:09 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:11:09 -0500
Subject: Native American Calling
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.091109.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh all,
if anyone is out there reading from your square screens on Labor Day
weekend?
On Monday (Central Standard Time 12:00 noon) on your computers,
 *Native American Calling* will be interviewing *First Peoples Fund *honorees
for 2010
*Community Spirit Awards* -  for arts related community cultural work.

for the radio broadcast on Monday, following is the URL for your friends and
family to listen:
 http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/nv1/ppr/index.shtml.

Just click on any listening option and you should be able to bring it up.

tizhameh!
Richard Zane Smith
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From jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  6 18:32:26 2010
From: jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Jessica Fae Nelson)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:32:26 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwzNFLiGiih1w1YGQ1rck87_tZCLee1pv=Biko@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.113226.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I've used FFmpeg (freeware) to encode vob files, but it seems to like to
have both audio and video for the "input" (although you only discover this
when it won't export functional files).  You have to be pretty tech savvy to
do the download too, honestly I can't remember the details anymore but here
is the link:

http://ffmpeg.org/download.html

To rip the audio, I've had trouble with Audacity not wanting to export in
mp3 format and have found it much easier to use Switch (there is a free
version and a pay version,  I use the free version and have had no issues).
It doesn't seem to mind if your files start out video + audio and end up as
just audio and it spits them out pretty fast.  I haven't tried vob files
with Switch but it would be worth it to see since Switch is a very easy
download, easy to use, etc.

http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

I hope this helps.

Jessica

2010/9/3 Neskie Manuel <neskiem at gmail.com>

> This sounds like it should be some web page somewhere.
>
> I purchased this to get vhs video onto my computer.
>
> http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/easy-vhs-to-dvd/mac/overview.html
>
> The cost was like $100 CAD.
>
> It creates mp4 and mov files.  I can also extract the audio using audacity.
>
> Neskie Manuel
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:24 AM,  <Jimrem at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a
> >>> couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS
> decks
> >>> are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so
> low
> >>> that it should be economically feasible.
> >
> >
> > One problem is that if you want to make audio only copies from your
> > DVDs many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB format.  That
> is
> > fine to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard to find a decent
> > program to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as a sound
> file.
> >
> > If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into
> your
> > computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Rementer
> > Lenape Language Project
> > Bartlesville, OK, 74006
> > [www.talk-lenape.org]
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
> Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
> Tel: (250) 434-5734
> SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
> Skype: neskiemanuel
> Twitter: @neskiem
> Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie
>
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Sep  7 18:30:52 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.133052.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 06:42:53 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:42:53 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHToJJDuGGK0DiqKhz6hfukuo_i1Yv62DVxDeP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.234253.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

FFMPEG is trivial to install on a Linux system like Ubuntu, and almost
trivial to install on a Mac I would suggest using Mac Ports.  I have
no idea about Windows.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson
<jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> I've used FFmpeg (freeware) to encode vob files, but it seems to like to
> have both audio and video for the "input" (although you only discover this
> when it won't export functional files).  You have to be pretty tech savvy to
> do the download too, honestly I can't remember the details anymore but here
> is the link:
>
> http://ffmpeg.org/download.html
>
> To rip the audio, I've had trouble with Audacity not wanting to export in
> mp3 format and have found it much easier to use Switch (there is a free
> version and a pay version,  I use the free version and have had no issues).
> It doesn't seem to mind if your files start out video + audio and end up as
> just audio and it spits them out pretty fast.  I haven't tried vob files
> with Switch but it would be worth it to see since Switch is a very easy
> download, easy to use, etc.

To export to mp3 using Audacity you'll have to follow these instructions.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&item=lame-mp3

I think the newer versions of Audacity offer to download and install
LAME for you.  I would suggest using the beta version.  It's stable,
and it's nice to work with.


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 06:52:44 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:52:44 -0700
Subject: Cherokees keep up with technology (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.235244.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

September 7, 2010

Cherokees keep up with technology
Apple apps are placing language at the cutting edge.

By BETTY RIDGE
USA

TAHLEQUAH — More than a century ago, fullblood Cherokee Soggy Sanders was
dubious about the telephone’s value after the first line had been installed
in Tahlequah. A quick demonstration convinced him otherwise.

“It talks in Cherokee,” he exclaimed.

Access full article below:
http://tahlequahdailypress.com/features/x797275527/Cherokees-keep-up-with-technology
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 06:57:09 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:57:09 -0700
Subject: N.B. Liberals make campaign pledge of native language training in
 schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.235709.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

N.B. Liberals make campaign pledge of native language training in schools

By: The Canadian Press
Posted: 7/09/2010 6:40 AM

FREDERICTON - Students in New Brunswick could have the chance to learn the
Maliseet and Mi'kmaq languages if the Liberals win the provincial election.

Access full article below:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/nb-liberals-make-campaign-pledge-of-native-language-training-in-schools-102331079.html
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:03:21 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:03:21 -0700
Subject: N.B. Grits propose First Nations language classes (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.000321.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

N.B. Grits propose First Nations language classes

Last Updated: Tuesday, September 7, 2010
CBC News

Liberal Leader Shawn Graham explains his plan to introduce traditional First
Nations languages in the province's classrooms. (CBC)The New Brunswick
Liberals are proposing that Maliseet and Mi'kmaq languages be taught in the
school system.

Leading up to the Sept. 27 provincial election, Liberal Leader Shawn Graham
made the announcement on Tuesday at the Chief Harold Sappier Memorial
Elementary School on the St. Mary's First Nation in Fredericton.

Graham said the goal is to develop a curriculum that will have First Nations
language training as a part of the school system at every grade in the
public system.

"The Mi'kmaq and Maliseet culture and language are an important part of what
defines New Brunswick," Graham said in a statement.

Access full article below:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/07/nbvotes-first-nations-language-education-943.html
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:01:05 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:01:05 -0700
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.000105.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for
'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection

David Smith in Johannesburg
guardian.co.uk,
Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST

The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South
Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan –
comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen – claim
they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the
democratic government.

Access full article below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/06/south-africa-khoisan-legal-action
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:16:12 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:16:12 -0500
Subject: cashcash@email.arizona.edu Wanted to share this article from
 www.theworldlink.com
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.021612.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

ilat at listserv.arizona.edu,
The Mill-Luck language revitalization

Coquille Tribe celebrates salmon, culture, language  

Click on the link or Copy and Paste the address into your internet browser window.
http://www.theworldlink.com/news/local/article_f3853ce3-82f8-5d39-b740-898eb249765b.html

- cashcash at email.arizona.edu




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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 11:29:31 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 04:29:31 -0700
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
In-Reply-To: <8482115.1127475.1283884253129.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.042931.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow Thanks for sharing that, I can't wait to see the video on YouTube.
 One of the first things I learned was 'A Secwepemc Prayer' [1], if
you ever fly into Kamloops BC you'll see it posted at the airport[2].
Prayer is a good way to start learning the language.  It will be said
before meals, at gatherings and before you go to bed.  Prayers
reinforce everything about the language, and communicate an important
message to ourselves, our family and friends, as well as the Creator
(or who/whatever you believe in).  The revitalization of Hebrew had
something to reciting prayers.

[1] - http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx/mp3/A%20Secwepemc%20Prayer.mp3
[2] - http://www.kamloopsairport.com/sitecm/i/secwepemc%20prayer.jpg

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> Throughout the years, our program has been visited by members of our
> community asking for help from them with prayers.  In fact, if you ask
> adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the
> Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost
> reason.
>
> We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language
> in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the
> third CD as parts of prayers.  The time has arrived to make this decision
> and I have decided not to.
>
> Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders
> worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no
> one might remember that word or those words later on.  So I do have what I
> would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in
> the next few days.
>
> I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you
> should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came
> up with to help people who have asked for that help.
>
> Pidamayaye.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program


From kburner at ROSETTASTONE.COM  Wed Sep  8 11:57:36 2010
From: kburner at ROSETTASTONE.COM (Burner, Katie)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:57:36 -0400
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd
 link)
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How can I remove my email from the list-serv?

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:01 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd link)

South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for 'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection

David Smith in Johannesburg
guardian.co.uk<http://guardian.co.uk>,
Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST

The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan – comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen – claim they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the democratic government.

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From Jimrem at AOL.COM  Wed Sep  8 14:25:16 2010
From: Jimrem at AOL.COM (Jimrem at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:25:16 EDT
Subject: prayer
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.102516.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Regarding learning prayers, one of our elders who was teaching a language  
class said, "Students  have been asking how to say a prayer in the Lenape 
language.  We normally do not learn to say prayers  by memory.  You pray based 
on what  is in your heart and you select your words for what you want to 
say as you go  along; however, since most people do not yet have enough grasp 
of Lenape, what  follows is a sample format for a prayer." 
 
The  format then gives the Lenape words with English translation.  You can 
alter  your prayer to fit what you want to say.  Options are set in   [   ]  
and separated by /.
 
Here  is an example of the English with options in the opening part of a  
prayer:
 
 
Our Creator, truly [thankful]  / [I am glad] that I can  
[stand] / [am here] now on this [morning]  / [day] /  
[evening].   [A few words] I want to say  something. 
Jim Rementer
Lenape Language Project
[w_ww.talk-lenape.org_ (http://www.talk-lenape.org) ]  
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Wed Sep  8 15:24:50 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:24:50 -0500
Subject: prayer
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 16:10:07 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:10:07 -0700
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd
 link)
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Language is a key component in the aspirations of the Khoi and Boesman
poeple's.

"The group has issued a memo for President Jacob Zuma with a list of eight
demands including full recognition of its traditional leaders.

The memo also calls for "full linguistic recognition of all our indigenous
Khoi and Boesman languages and the capacity to develop and proliferate these
among our people" and "a full review of all land-rights claims submitted by
our people and the proper and sustainable implementation of all agreements
relating to settled claims"."

Phil



On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Burner, Katie <kburner at rosettastone.com>wrote:

>  How can I remove my email from the list-serv?
>
>
>
> *From:* Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Phillip E Cash Cash
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:01 AM
> *To:* ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> *Subject:* [ILAT] South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
> (fwd link)
>
>
>
> South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
> Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for
> 'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection
>
> David Smith in Johannesburg
> guardian.co.uk,
> Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST
>
> The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South
> Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan –
> comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen – claim
> they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the
> democratic government.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/06/south-africa-khoisan-legal-action
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 16:51:33 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:51:33 -0700
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
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Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health

By Iskhandar Razak

Updated Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:23am AEST
Australia

The first dictionary translating anatomical and medical terms from English
to an ancient Aboriginal language has been published.

The dictionary, which has taken six years to complete, translates over 200
terms into Yolngu Matha, the main language used in east Arnhem Land in the
Northern Territory.

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From jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 16:42:59 2010
From: jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM (Derksen Jacob)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:42:59 +0000
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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Thanks for sharing that. I look forward to the youtube clip.

An area of interest for me is the role that religion and spirituality plays in both language shift and in language revitalization. 

It seems to me that language often hangs on in prayers and spiritual teachings and also plays a key role in inspiring people to learn, re-learn or teach their language. And, as much as religion of oppressors/ dominant culture has been instrumental in language shift, esp church run residential schools, it has also played a role in preserving language in Bibles, orthographies and so on, or in keeping it vital as is the case with Guarani in Paraguay.

If anyone knows of research related to the role that religion or spirituality plays in language revitalization, I'd be very grateful.

Best regards,

Jakob

 


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET
Subject: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Han Mitakuyapi,

Throughout the years, our program has been visited by members of our community asking for help from them with prayers.  In fact, if you ask adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost reason.

We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the third CD as parts of prayers.  The time has arrived to make this decision and I have decided not to.  

Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no one might remember that word or those words later on.  So I do have what I would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in the next few days.

I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came up with to help people who have asked for that help.

Pidamayaye.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 		 	   		  
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Wed Sep  8 17:07:44 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:07:44 -0500
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 18:40:45 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:40:45 -0400
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimOcRvF=KfKNiGN8g-Toy9nLaz+XdnfZZfr0L9u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.144045.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

David Nash sent me the link to the online dictionary:
http://www.ards.com.au/healthdictionary/lexicon/main.htm
It's a wonderful resource, well done Yurranydjil, Marilyn, Salome and
everyone involved!
Claire

-- 

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Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/


From gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 18:50:41 2010
From: gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM (adrian john)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:41 -0400
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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I was apart of a pilot program that our nation sponsored that was based on learning language through Ceremonial and ritual practices. 

Just some background information; I am a member of the Seneca Nation of Indians located in Western new york state.  We have a school called the Ganososgeh Henondiesta Koh, or the Faithkeepers school.  The school was built to educate youth in the ceremonial ways of our Longhouse.  In 2007 the school was sponsored to have an adult program where participants were paid to learn the ceremonial language, protocols and songs of the Longhouse.  There were 6 of us originally.  

The learning process for this varied, some of us chunked information, memorized etc. In all senses we were constantly cramming as we were actually using this language to help perform ceremonies; either privately or in formal community ceremonies.  As you mentioned, language is held on to by those that practice traditional teachings, as is the case with our language.  Most if not all speakers of the language are members of the longhouse spiritual practices. 

There is no formal research as to our progress or the systems that we used, except for our daily journals and our actual involvement in putting what we learned to use.  That is probably the best assessment.  

I can tell you that it does work though, I came in knowing hardly anything to knowing quite a bit of language, songs and the meanings to our ceremonies.  This was done just over a year involved in the project.  The original 6 have moved on to other areas, but we remain a key component to taking care of our ceremonies in our communities.  There are 4 new participants involved now and if this continues we will have created a new pool of leadership in our longhouse.

I hope this helps a little.

Adrian John

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:42:59 +0000
From: jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU








Thanks for sharing that. I look forward to the youtube clip.

An area of interest for me is the role that religion and spirituality plays in both language shift and in language revitalization. 

It seems to me that language often hangs on in prayers and spiritual teachings and also plays a key role in inspiring people to learn, re-learn or teach their language. And, as much as religion of oppressors/ dominant culture has been instrumental in language shift, esp church run residential schools, it has also played a role in preserving language in Bibles, orthographies and so on, or in keeping it vital as is the case with Guarani in Paraguay.

If anyone knows of research related to the role that religion or spirituality plays in language revitalization, I'd be very grateful.

Best regards,

Jakob

 


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET
Subject: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Han Mitakuyapi,

Throughout the years, our program has been visited by members of our community asking for help from them with prayers.  In fact, if you ask adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost reason.

We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the third CD as parts of prayers.  The time has arrived to make this decision and I have decided not to.  

Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no one might remember that word or those words later on.  So I do have w
 hat I would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in the next few days.

I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came up with to help people who have asked for that help.

Pidamayaye.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 		 	   		  
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From daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU  Wed Sep  8 22:46:49 2010
From: daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU (Daryn McKenny)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:46:49 +1000
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
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This is awesome

Regards
 
Daryn 
 
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Miromaa Aboriginal Language and Technology Centre
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Claire Bowern
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 4:41 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)

David Nash sent me the link to the online dictionary:
http://www.ards.com.au/healthdictionary/lexicon/main.htm
It's a wonderful resource, well done Yurranydjil, Marilyn, Salome and everyone involved!
Claire

-- 

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Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/

From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 20:47:03 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:47:03 -0700
Subject: Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.134703.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem

Mises Daily: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 by Danny Hieber

We have room for but one language in this country, and that is the
English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our
people out as Americans, of    American nationality, and not as
dwellers in a polyglot boarding house.

    — Theodore Roosevelt[1]

There are 6,909 languages alive in the world today. Seventy-four are
indigenous to California alone — languages like Hupa, Kawaiisu, and
Shoshone — while Papua New Guinea has over 800, with a median of just
1,200 speakers per language.

As astonishing as these figures seem, they obscure a stark reality:
potentially half of these languages are set to vanish in the next
century. Don't believe me? Consider that in North America, out of 296
known languages at the time of European contact, only 33 are being
actively passed down to the next generation. The rest will become
extinct upon the death of their last speakers (if they haven't
already), probably sometime this century.[2]

Access full article below:
http://mises.org/daily/4687


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 20:58:32 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:58:32 -0700
Subject: 1 in 5 aboriginal kids off-reserve know native language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.135832.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

1 in 5 aboriginal kids off-reserve know native language

CTV.ca News Staff
Updated: Thu. Sep. 9 2010 9:04 AM ET
Canada

OTTAWA — A newly released study says one in five younger First Nations
children living off-reserve were able to understand an aboriginal language
in 2006.

Statistics Canada reports Cree and Ojibway were the languages understood by
the largest number of the kids ages 2-5.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 21:02:35 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:02:35 -0700
Subject: Health talk in language they can understand (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.140235.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Health talk in language they can understand

September 10, 2010
Australia

A dictionary in Yolngu will counter fear and ignorance, writes Lindsay
Murdoch.

When some Yolngu Aborigines living in north-east Arnhem Land were asked last
year about their understanding of a heart attack, they replied that it was
an alien disease where an agent or foreign body attacks someone's heart.

A stroke, they told researchers, was also a term unknown in their
vocabulary: they thought it meant soothing a sick person.

For decades Western doctors and health workers have struggled to communicate
with indigenous people from remote communities for whom English is their
second, third or even fourth language.

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From pouemes at FREE.FR  Thu Sep  9 21:33:09 2010
From: pouemes at FREE.FR (pouemes)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:33:09 +0200
Subject: aboriginal language translation
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.233309.0200.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello from france
 
I have a very short poem alredy translated in 270 languages, even in some rares dead languages (maya, copte, hieroglyphs, arapaho, mahican etc) made by researchers
 
For 50% of the translations i have also real natives voices who say them, most of time made by radios, sometimes big internationals radios
 
I should be really happy to get a translation of my short poem into an aboriginal language.
 
Because of an important animation, i shall prefer that you discover it on my website here
http://pouemes.free.fr/poesie/poem-translations.htm
 
I really hope for you could like my project and would help for this very short translation with perhaps the audio of a native voice who say it.
 
waiting for your news
 
regards
Jean-Yves 
pouemes at free.fr
http://www.facebook.com/poete.bellon 
 
the english translation of my poem, is not far french, so can be usefull
 
Your image in the mirror,
Is my most beautiful poem,
But, be quick it disappears,
It's my last "I love you"! 
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From enviro.design at YAHOO.COM  Fri Sep 10 00:49:18 2010
From: enviro.design at YAHOO.COM (Sandra Gaskell)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:49:18 -0700
Subject: Urgent votes by Fri Fw: Fwd: Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural
 Geospatial Standards Committee
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.174918.0700.ENVIRO.DESIGM@YAHOO.COM>

Volunteers on this group are the GIS mapping and cultural resource workers from 
the Tribes. Please pass along this voting list for a Geospatial standards group. 
Read the informaiton below and nominate people from the regions not covered in 
the list. There are 10 core work group participants, but we can have a large 
participating list on a peer review group. 


I had suggested using linguistics boundaries- but they had to use the NPS 
districting boundaries. You can direct questions to deidre_mccarthy at nps.gov or 
rosemarie.mckeon at gmail.com

link to the google earth map: at 
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106830217254494681678.00048fc5eb0a3f55335fa&ll=47.040182,-117.246094&spn=45.172766,106.699219&t=h&z=3
 for references to regions.


Sandra Gaskell, RPA, CCC SLP
Speech-Language Pathologist
Registered Professional Archaeologist
MS, MA Anthropology-Geography, CSUS-CSUF
MS-SLP, Northern Arizona University
SLP.D, NSU Candidate


arcresours at gmail.com 


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From: <rosemarie.mckeon at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural Geospatial Standards Committee
To: arcresours at gmail.com



If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out online: 

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHNLUU5XTTB5WkIzQVBYSGZfTUdQNXc6MQ
 
Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural Geospatial Standards Committee
There have been over 20 tribal volunteers to the NPS Cultural Geospatial 
Standards committee for about 10 positions. The first 4 were allocated by NPS on 
a first-come-first serve basis. The NPS needs your help in selecting the other 6 
representatives. To ensure that most of the US is represented, I have divided 
the country into 13 regions associated with recognized Native American 
communities. The National Congress of the American Indian website lists 
federally recognized tribes under 'areas', which areas seem more appropriate for 
tribes than the usual federal or business regional models. Please vote for one 
person or tribe in each of the 13 regions, noting that there are several regions 
where no one has come forward to assist with this important effort. Everyone who 
volunteers will be included into a larger peer review committee which will 
receive all communications and notes from the core committee of 10 tribal 
representatives as well as from the NPS. Please review the Google map located at 
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106830217254494681678.00048fc5eb0a3f55335fa&ll=47.040182,-117.246094&spn=45.172766,106.699219&t=h&z=3
 for references to regions. For ease in communication, a forum for the core and 
peer committee has been set up at: http://bit.ly/bdwxeD Please login or create 
an account to post a message to the forum. The forum will be viewable by the 
pubic, and hopefully, will encourage broader communication between tribal 
cultural geospatial expertise. Best wishes! 



Please select our lone representative located in the Alaskan Region * 
Please feel free to recommend someone/s in this region to join the peer group. 
	*  Denise Rankin, President, Qawalangin Tribe of Unalaska 
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative who is located in the North West Region * 
Jill Wagner and John Hartman with the Coeur d'Alene tribe were already approved 
by the NPS into the core committee. Please consider making recommendation for 
the larger peer committee 

	*  Robin Harkins Nichole Norris from Coquille Tribe
	*  Jeff Cronce Nez Perce Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative/tribal community who is located in the Pacific 
Region. * 

Sandra Gaskell, Tribal Archaeologist, and Danette Johnson, GIS Analyst, Southern 
Miwuk, was selected for the core committee. Please make recommendations for 
others to join the larger peer committee. 

	*  Frank Arredondo, Freddie Romero, Santa Ynez Band of Chumash 
	*  Elaina Albers, Yurok Tribe
	*  Marcos Guerrero, Cultural Resources Specialist, United Auburn Indian 
Community
	*  Shanti Warlick, Colfax-Todds Valley Consolidated Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative who is located in the Western Region. * 
Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Bridget Nash, THPO, Quechan Indian Tribe
	*  Vernalee Grant, Historic Preservation & Archeology Department, San Carlos 
Apache Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one of three representative who can take the lead to represent the 
Navajo Region. * 

Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Darlene Jenkins, GIS Analyst
	*  Lenora Tsosie
	*  Gerald O'Hara, BIA
	*  Let them all share one vote and decide among themselves who should take the 
lead
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Rocky 
Mountain Region. * 

Blackfeet Tribe, Chippewa-Cree Indians of the Rocky Boy's Reservation, Crow 
Tribe of Montana, Eastern Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, Fort 
Belknap Indian Community, Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, Northern 
Arapaho Tribe, Northern Cheyenne Tribe, Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians 
of Montana 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the South West 
Region. * 

Jicarilla Apache Nation, Mescalero Apache Tribe, Ohkay Owingeh, Pueblo of Acoma, 
Pueblo of Cochiti, Pueblo of Isleta, Pueblo of Jemez, Pueblo of Laguna, Pueblo 
of Nambe, Pueblo of Picuris, Pueblo of Pojoaque, Pueblo of San Felipe, Pueblo of 
San Ildefonso, Pueblo of Sandia, Pueblo of Santa Ana, Pueblo of Santa Clara, 
Pueblo of Santo Domingo, Pueblo of Taos, Pueblo of Tesuque, Pueblo of Zia, 
Pueblo of Zuni, Southern Ute Indian Tribe, Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, Ysleta del 
Sur Pueblo 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Great 
Plains Region * 

Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians, Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe, Standing Rock 
Sioux Tribe, Three Affiliated Tribes of Mandan Hidatsa & Arikara Nation, Omaha 
Tribe of Nebraska, Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska, Ponca Tribe of Nebraska, Santee 
Sioux Nation, Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe, Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate of the Lake 
Traverse Reservation, Crow Creek Sioux Tribe, Lower Brule Sioux Tribe, Rosebud 
Sioux Tribe, Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, Oglala Sioux Tribe of the Pine Ridge 
Reservation, Yankton Sioux Tribe 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Southern 
Plains Region * 

Absentee Shawnee Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma, Alabama-Coushatta Tribes of 
Texas, Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Caddo Nation, Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of 
Oklahoma, Citizen Potawatomi Nation, Comanche Nation, Delaware Nation, Fort Sill 
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska, Iowa Tribe of 
Oklahoma, Kaw Nation, Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas, Kickapoo Tribe of 
Indians in Kansas, Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma, Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma, Ponca Tribe of 
Oklahoma, Prairie Band of Potawatomi Nation, Sac and Fox Nation of Missouri in 
Kansas and Nebraska, Sac and Fox Nation of Oklahoma, Tonkawa Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Eastern 
Oklahoma Region * 

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town, Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, Chickasaw Nation, 
Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, Kialegee Tribal 
Town, Miami Tribe of Oklahoma, Modoc Tribe of Oklahoma, Muscogee (Creek) Nation, 
Osage Tribe, Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, Peoria Tribe of Oklahoma, Quapaw Tribe of 
Indians, Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma, Shawnee 
Tribe, Thlopthlocco Tribal Town, United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in 
Oklahoma, Wyandotte Nation 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please select one of representative located in the Mid West Region. * 
Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Dawn Sherk, GIS Technician/Transportation Planner, White Earth Nation
	*  Ken Marshall, Keweenaw Bay Indian Community
	*  Other: 

Please select one of representative located in the South East Region. * 
Robert Thrower, Poarch band of Creek Indians was approved by NPS beforehand. 
Please write in any recommendations for the peer committee 

	*  David Wyatt, Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
	*  Paul Backhouse and Juan J. Cancel, Seminole Tribe of Florida
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the North East 
Region (some are only state recognized) * 

Aroostook Band of Micmacs, Cayuga Nation, Houlton Band of Maliseet Indians, 
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe, Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe, Mohegan Indian Tribe, 
Narragansett Indian Tribe, Oneida Nation of New York, Onondaga Indian Nation, 
Passamaquoddy Tribe - Indian Township Reservation, Passamaquoddy Tribe - 
Pleasant Point Reservation, Penobscot Nation, Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe, Seneca 
Nation of New York Shinnecock Indian Nation, Tonawanda Seneca Nation, Tuscarora 
Nation, Wampanoag Tribe of Gay Head Aquinnah, Chickahominy Indian Tribe, Inc., 
Eastern Pequot Tribal Nation, Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation, Schaghticoke 
Indian Tribe, Unkechaug Nation 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

There is a big region near the center of the US that lacks federally recognized 
tribes. If you know of a tribal community vying for recognition, please consider 
adding their name to the peer list 


Anything you would like to say about this process to the map or form 
implementation or more generally to the NPS? 

Please help me improve this kind of form to serve future tribal community 
recommendations. 

  
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 10 23:06:55 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:06:55 -0700
Subject: Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.160655.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software

Written by TRAVIS NOLAND, Cherokee Nation
Thursday, 09 September 2010 16:09
USA

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. — The leap from Native culture to pop culture has
officially been made. The Cherokee language is now available for the first
time on iPhones and iPods for more than 300 million users across the globe.
The Cherokee Nation has been working with the software developers at Apple,
Inc. for several years to incorporate the tribe’s unique written language,
called the Cherokee syllabary, into new technology offered by the software
giant. Cherokee is the first Native language to be featured on Apple, Inc.
devices, and is one of about only 40 languages overall.

Access full article below:
http://nativetimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4228:cherokee-language-added-to-new-iphone-and-ipod-software&catid=43&Itemid=19
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 11 03:04:40 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:04:40 -0700
Subject: Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software (fwd
 link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimetcavF9HCagNFg-iHNuwqnFfMmriysG3QTTm0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.200440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

That's really great.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software
>
> Written by TRAVIS NOLAND, Cherokee Nation
> Thursday, 09 September 2010 16:09
> USA
>
> TAHLEQUAH, Okla. — The leap from Native culture to pop culture has
> officially been made. The Cherokee language is now available for the first
> time on iPhones and iPods for more than 300 million users across the globe.
> The Cherokee Nation has been working with the software developers at Apple,
> Inc. for several years to incorporate the tribe’s unique written language,
> called the Cherokee syllabary, into new technology offered by the software
> giant. Cherokee is the first Native language to be featured on Apple, Inc.
> devices, and is one of about only 40 languages overall.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://nativetimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4228:cherokee-language-added-to-new-iphone-and-ipod-software&catid=43&Itemid=19
>



-- 
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Tel: (250) 434-5734
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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Sat Sep 11 04:01:41 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:01:41 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.230141.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and  
hear his honor song.

Swell evening. The honorees are doing the good work in beautiful ways.

Congratulations, Richard!
_______________________
Allies, LLC

Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Martin Case
research/writer/editor
Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
Allies: Research and Writing
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sat Sep 11 21:19:34 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:19:34 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
In-Reply-To: <0717FDFD-8F48-4B66-A613-2137CD4044CA@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.161934.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

tizhameh! (thanks) Mona,
you were there!?!?!
What an uplifting experience it was to have our efforts "celebrated"
this unique and wonderful way...I'm feeling so recharged!
I'm thankful for The First Peoples Fund. What an awesome staff....
I feel like I have a new family.

ske;noh
richard



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:

> An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and hear
> his honor song.
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> Congratulations, Richard!
> _______________________
> *Allies, LLC *
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> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> *Allies: media/art*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *
> *
> Martin Case
> research/writer/editor
> Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
> *Allies: Research and Writing*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Sat Sep 11 23:05:05 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:05:05 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=FOaT3e1GXZZh39iDOGnYK+CD9pXfDNALB7UOB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.180505.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

yup.  Came up afterwords in the "lobby" and introduced myself, too.  
But I spoke quickly and moved faster.  Big night, many people wanted  
your time!  Nice to have met you.  Today is a beautiful day in Dakota  
homelands - 71 degrees and sunny with a breeze.  Great day for pow-wow  
at the confluence of the Mississippi and Minnesota Rivers (VERY close  
to the airport.)

I found the event energizing, just being in the audience.  They're  
honoring the right people for the right reasons.   AND the food was  
fabulous.


I wish all of ILAT could have been there.

Mona Smith

On Sep 11, at 4:19 PM Sep 11, Richard Zane Smith wrote:

> tizhameh! (thanks) Mona,
> you were there!?!?!
> What an uplifting experience it was to have our efforts "celebrated"
> this unique and wonderful way...I'm feeling so recharged!
> I'm thankful for The First Peoples Fund. What an awesome staff....
> I feel like I have a new family.
>
> ske;noh
> richard
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mona Smith  
> <mona at alliesmediaart.com> wrote:
> An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and  
> hear his honor song.
>
> Swell evening. The honorees are doing the good work in beautiful ways.
>
> Congratulations, Richard!
> _______________________
> Allies, LLC
>
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> Allies: media/art
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
>
> Martin Case
> research/writer/editor
> Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
> Allies: Research and Writing
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> indiantreatysigners at gmail.com
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
>
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_______________________
Allies, LLC

Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Martin Case
research/writer/editor
Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
Allies: Research and Writing
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

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From hal1403 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 12 23:47:18 2010
From: hal1403 at YAHOO.COM (Haley De Korne)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:47:18 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.164718.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,

I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language 
education, I want to know where information that might be useful to 
educators and advocates can best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of 
written forms, but not exclusively...  Any input is welcome!

What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?

Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?

I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 

Chii migwech, thank you for your input!

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 05:14:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:14:45 -0700
Subject: Language Camp (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.221445.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sunday, September 12, 2010

Language Camp
By Libby Sterling | Juneau Empire
USA

It is a crisp, summer day, maybe unofficially one of the first of autumn. A
group is gathered in the open air around a propane stove — some are sitting,
some are standing, but all are focused on the contents of the cooking pot.

It's seal fat (tsaa eixí), cooking in its own oils — no additives are
necessary for this dish. The fat has been cut into bite-sized chunks. When
cooked, each piece will hold its own shape — crispy on the outside with a
light, airy center.

As the fat comes to temperature, the group breaks out into a Tlingit song.
Mary Folletti (Daaljíni) momentarily reassigns her stirring spoon to play
the role of a drumstick. As, she sings, she gently beats the spoon on the
side of the pot, keeping the beat.

In a nearby smokehouse, another meal is in preparation. This smoked salmon
(áx akawdudlis'eigi xáat) was cut into strips earlier in the day and has
been smoking for a few hours. Hans Chester (Naakil.aan) removes the
smokehouse door to check on the salmon's status.

Chester is one of about a dozen attendees at a Tlingit language immersion
retreat, held over Labor Day weekend at the Eagle River United Methodist
Camp.

Access full article below:
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/091210/nei_706944824.shtml
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 05:16:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:16:45 -0700
Subject: Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.221645.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saskatchewan native dialects endangered

'This is the foundation of our culture'

Last Updated: Sunday, September 12, 2010 | 10:38 AM CST
CBC News

Aboriginal language experts say several native dialects are endangered in
Saskatchewan as fewer young people learn their ancestral tongues.

There are eight aboriginal languages spoken the province. The most widely
spoken are Cree and Saulteaux.

Statistics Canada says one in five aboriginal children under the age of five
can understand an aboriginal language.


Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/09/12/sask-aboriginal-languages-threatened.html#ixzz0zNqk9ZlN
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 11:53:21 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:53:21 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <58705.1477.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.075321.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Good Questions Haley,

I turn folks to JonTeyhner's site on "Teaching Indigenous Languages" (
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html) as a good overall resource for
revitalization activities.  For those wanting help with documentation, there
is the journal out of Hawaii online "Language Documentation and
Conservation" which also has some revitalization content. For those wanting
to know what is happening with technology in the context of indigenous
language teaching, I would recommend trying to find Candace Galla's recent
dissertation.

That is just off the top of my head...looking forward to what others
think...

Susan

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student
> & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to
> know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can
> best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not
> exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at
> to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to
> get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
> Haley De Korne
>
>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 11:55:07 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:55:07 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <58705.1477.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.075507.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sorry for the typo....-- Jon *Reyhner *(not Teyhner)...

S.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student
> & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to
> know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can
> best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not
> exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at
> to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to
> get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
> Haley De Korne
>
>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 12:29:10 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:29:10 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinH9jVpDXR2V=kHLBb6wv8GMEpGpMPMmRt0Ri5G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.082910.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as
well...it has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range
of issues...here is the link

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html<http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/%7Ejar/TIL.html>

Shannon



On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry for the typo....-- Jon *Reyhner *(not Teyhner)...
>
> S.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>>
>> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a
>> student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I
>> want to know where information that might be useful to educators and
>> advocates can best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written
>> forms, but not exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>>
>> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look
>> at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or
>> to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy
>> strategies?
>>
>> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>>
>> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
>> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
>> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
>> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>>
>> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>>
>> Haley De Korne
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> *Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> **(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 13:13:28 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:13:28 +0000
Subject: Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinabjRHqJYr0JNPsDJCzdkiF9BCFtO-5CP4b0Ek@mail.gmail.com>
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This article contains a major inaccuracy, Cree and Dene are the 2 most commonly spoken languages in Saskatchewan, not Cree and Saulteaux
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

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Subject: [ILAT] Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)

Saskatchewan native dialects endangered

'This is the foundation of our culture'

Last Updated: Sunday, September 12, 2010 | 10:38 AM CST
CBC News

Aboriginal language experts say several native dialects are endangered in
Saskatchewan as fewer young people learn their ancestral tongues.

There are eight aboriginal languages spoken the province. The most widely
spoken are Cree and Saulteaux.

Statistics Canada says one in five aboriginal children under the age of five
can understand an aboriginal language.


Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/09/12/sask-aboriginal-languages-threatened.html#ixzz0zNqk9ZlN

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From mhermes at D.UMN.EDU  Mon Sep 13 14:20:10 2010
From: mhermes at D.UMN.EDU (Mary Hermes)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:20:10 -0500
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimVtxzfdLy_4Sub8J=eO1Cg1v+sZ8UZ_Q6gD=Jc@mail.gmail.com>
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My all time favorite for applied and useful is still the Green Book of Language Revitalization, Hinton and Hale.

I also found the online papers from the first international conference on language documentation and conservation in Hawaii very good, more recent. I think these are free, in print, but I couldn't find that link.  I did find a link that has audio of all of these papers http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961
Maybe someone else knows the link for the written versions?

Gidoojibwem ina? 
Ge giin miigwech gagwejimiyan!
Waabishkimiigwan

--------------------------------------------
Mary Hermes, PhD
Associate Professor of Education
Eni-gikendaasoyang:  Center for Indigenous Language and Culture Revitalization
University of Minnesota Duluth
715-462-4230



On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:29 AM, s.t. bischoff wrote:

> The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as well...it has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range of issues...here is the link
> 
> http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html
> 
> Shannon
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the typo....-- Jon Reyhner (not Teyhner)...
>  
> S.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
> 
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
> 
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
> 
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
> 
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 
> 
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
> 
> Haley De Korne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
> 
> 
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture, 
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT), 
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
> 
> 
> 

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From gforger at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 15:39:00 2010
From: gforger at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Garry Forger)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:39:00 -0700
Subject: $4.1 million invested in tribal land-grant institutions
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Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack recently announced that 22 tribal colleges in nine states have been chosen to receive $4.1 million in grants through the USDA Rural Development Tribal College Initiative Grant Program.

 

 

http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/living/health/Secretary-Vilsack-announces-investment-of-41-million-in-tribal-land-grant-institutions-102373704.html

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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 15:42:29 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:42:29 -0400
Subject: $4.1 million invested in tribal land-grant institutions
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Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.114229.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow...thanks ...good to know about this!

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Garry Forger <gforger at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

>  Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack recently announced that 22 tribal
> colleges in nine states have been chosen to receive $4.1 million in grants
> through the USDA Rural Development Tribal College Initiative Grant Program.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/living/health/Secretary-Vilsack-announces-investment-of-41-million-in-tribal-land-grant-institutions-102373704.html
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 13 16:09:40 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:09:40 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <ED202CC1-6771-4CFB-A79F-722686CEC9B2@d.umn.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.090940.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

K'yele Mary,

Great link!  Mahalo Manoa Hawaii Edu! 

The transcript is included for the audio in some of them (i.e., Leanne 
Hinton's http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/5165/9/5165script.pdf).
  You can reach the audio and PDF from each participant's landing 
page (http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5165).   

The link to all presentations is 
here: http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961/browse?type=dateissued&sort_by=2&order=ASC&rpp=150&etal=0&submit_browse=Update


Tsu tsi wes,

Troy



________________________________
From: Mary Hermes <mhermes at D.UMN.EDU>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 7:20:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?

My all time favorite for applied and useful is still the Green Book of Language 
Revitalization, Hinton and Hale.


I also found the online papers from the first international conference on 
language documentation and conservation in Hawaii very good, more recent. I 
think these are free, in print, but I couldn't find that link.  I did find a 
link that has audio of all of these 
papers http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961
Maybe someone else knows the link for the written versions?


Gidoojibwem ina? 
Ge giin miigwech gagwejimiyan!
Waabishkimiigwan


--------------------------------------------
Mary Hermes, PhD
Associate Professor of Education
Eni-gikendaasoyang:  Center for Indigenous Language and Culture Revitalization
University of Minnesota Duluth
715-462-4230



On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:29 AM, s.t. bischoff wrote:


The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as well...it 
has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range of 
issues...here is the link
>
>http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html
>
>Shannon
>
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan 
>Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com> wrote:
>Sorry for the typo....-- Jon Reyhner (not Teyhner)...
> 
>S.
>
>On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
>I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student & 
>young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to know 
>where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can best be 
>shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not exclusively... 
> Any input is welcome!
>
>What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to 
>learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get 
>ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
>Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
>I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm 
>wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for 
>example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language 
>and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 
>
>Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
>Haley De Korne
>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>**********************************************************************************************
>
>Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
>Department of English (Primary)
>Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture, 
>Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT), 
>American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>The Southwest Center
>University of Arizona,
>Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
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From klokeid at UVIC.CA  Mon Sep 13 22:24:15 2010
From: klokeid at UVIC.CA (Terry J. Klokeid)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:24:15 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbvKdYKg1dNArCLqyMU9kdoP_0hCbfyyzCL9N1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.152415.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Here is a useful version of Jon Reyhner's writing on the topic at hand, as well as other articles, kindly shared with me by Prof. Reyhner:

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/NNL/

I am currently writing up something that could be viewed as an adaptation of the Natural Approach of Stephen D. Krashen and Tracy D. Terrell, which has been mentioned, though my project owes just as much to my own experience raising my children as bilinguals.  It is slated for publication in the rather inaccessible Uyaqhmis newsletter, and hopefully somewhere more accessible as well.

It focusses on just four guiding principles, that can be stated from the administrative and teaching point of view, as well as from the learner's point of view:

The teacher must:
1. Create a positive and supportive setting
2. Provide lots of [what I call] language samples [=Krashen and Terrell's Input] 
3. Foster and respect the learner's motivation 
4. Provide opportunities for the learners to express their own ideas, wants, and needs

You can find a brief blurb at
www.fphlcc.ca/downloads/summer-newsletter-09.pdf


My plan is to write this up from both teacher and learner point of view, starting with the latter, for the Uyaqhmis newsletter.

Back issues of the Uyaqhmis have articles on the back page by myself and some colleagues, Henry Kammler and Ron Hamilton, focussing on the Nuu-chah-nulth language.  Each article is more or less self-contained and intended to spark interest and encourage learners.

http://huuayaht.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=16&id=49&Itemid=129


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:11:21 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:21 -0700
Subject: Gathang dictionary hoped to lead a revival of the language (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221121.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Gathang dictionary hoped to lead a revival of the language

TONI BELL
14 Sep, 2010 12:00 AM
Australia

IN the 1960s, when a young Swedish linguist, Nils Holmer, was researching
Australian Aboriginal languages he was lucky enough to meet Biripi elder
Eddie Lobban, the last known fully fluent speaker of Taree's local native
tongue.

Quite a few other Biripi people were, and still are, conversant in single
words and phrases but the language was largely unspoken by the time the
academic and the elder sat down to record it.

Today in Purfleet, a very special event is taking place with the launch of a
dictionary of the Gathang language, which comprises the dialects of a large
group of Aboriginal people from Port Stephens to Port Macquarie, including
Biripi and Worimi.

Access full article below:
http://www.manningrivertimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/gathang-dictionary-hoped-to-lead-a-revival-of-the-language/1940821.aspx
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:13:23 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:13:23 -0700
Subject: Alaska Native Language Center linguist helps document dialects
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221323.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Alaska Native Language Center linguist helps document dialects

by Christopher Eshleman/ceshleman at newsminer.com
USA

FAIRBANKS — Village elders have worked with researchers for years to
document the slate of native languages found across the state.

Many of those languages, including Lower Tanana, are extremely endangered.
Only a handful of native speakers of Lower Tanana, often referred to as
Tanana, are still alive. Different dialects of the language, one of 11 in
the Alaska Athabascan family, were originally spoken across the Chena River
drainage, from Minto and Nenana east toward Salcha, the Goodpaster River and
Big Delta.

Native speakers — who grew up with Lower Tanana as their first language —
can only be found in Minto. Siri Tuttle, a linguist at the Alaska Native
Language Center and the University of Alaska Fairbanks’ linguistics program,
recently wrapped up a 15-month documentation and research project in the
village of about 250 people. She worked with elders to translate and
document song lyrics, some on file at the language center and some recorded
during the project.


Read more: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Alaska Native Language Center
linguist helps document dialects
http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/9503554/article-Alaska-Native-Language-Center-linguist-helps-document-dialects?instance=home_news_window_left_top_4
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:18:52 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:18:52 -0700
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221852.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

14 September 2010
UK

Are dying languages worth saving?

How people are trying to preserve endangered languages

Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?

"Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.

About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
- a sad prospect for some.

Access full article below:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
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From huangc20 at UFL.EDU  Wed Sep 15 13:59:40 2010
From: huangc20 at UFL.EDU (Chun Jimmy Huang)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:59:40 -0400
Subject: Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.095940.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My question to Hieber and Mufuwene: Why are economic, or "market 
forces" considered "natural," while "state-driven ones" not? Could 
this distinction be made had Hieber and Mufuwene not taken the 
current economic system for granted, as an universal and ahistoric 
human condition?

And my response: sure the "language rights advocates" (a label 
used by Mufuwene to lump what seems to me several different groups 
of linguists together), or those of us who advocate linguistic 
diversity, are indeed enacting social change, or engendering "an 
alternative socio-economic world order" that can be recommended to 
those who suffer linguistic, and thus cultural, loss. This new 
social order, I hope, is (neo-)anarchy, which I evaluate 
positively.

Jimmy


On Thu Sep 09 16:47:03 EDT 2010, Phillip E Cash Cash 
<cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> wrote:

> Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem
> 
> Mises Daily: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 by Danny Hieber
> 
> We have room for but one language in this country, and that is 
> the
> English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns 
> our
> people out as Americans, of    American nationality, and not as
> dwellers in a polyglot boarding house.
> 
>     ??? Theodore Roosevelt[1]
> 
> There are 6,909 languages alive in the world today. Seventy-four 
> are
> indigenous to California alone ??? languages like Hupa, Kawaiisu, 
> and
> Shoshone ??? while Papua New Guinea has over 800, with a median 
> of just
> 1,200 speakers per language.
> 
> As astonishing as these figures seem, they obscure a stark 
> reality:
> potentially half of these languages are set to vanish in the next
> century. Don't believe me? Consider that in North America, out of 
> 296
> known languages at the time of European contact, only 33 are 
> being
> actively passed down to the next generation. The rest will become
> extinct upon the death of their last speakers (if they haven't
> already), probably sometime this century.[2]
> 
> Access full article below:
> http://mises.org/daily/4687
> 
> 



Dr. Chun (Jimmy) Huang
Post-doc, National University of Kaohsiung
Linguistic consultant, Tainan Pingpu Siraya Culture Association


From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 16:39:02 2010
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:39:02 -0700
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.093902.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

All:

For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.

In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.

Thanks for any info provided on this topic.

Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language Committee
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 16:59:25 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:59:25 -0700
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ZH+uCzEJuVyF=h-SocVKNKPJ0GbCNkznirVoF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.095925.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I disagree with Kenann Malik.  My question is why should some language
get preference over others, such as English or French in Canada over
any other indigenous language, especially in the land where it is
spoken. There is a specific colonial strategy in place to displace
original inhabitants, so that the colonial power can reap economic
benefits.   This is one reason why languages die, because  governments
chooses to elevate some language above what the original language of
that land is.

Do the governments not reap benefits from the land where those
languages are spoken? Whether it is to use that land as a basis for
getting loans from the World Bank or extracting minerals from the
land, governments do.  Governments should support the continued
existence of languages where economic benefit is derived from the land
where languages are spoken.  Languages are specific to a time and
place and very much tied to economics.

Just up the road at the largest Salmon Run in the world.  The
Department of Fisheries and Oceans has paid to ensure that all signage
and posters are in both French and English, but why not Secwepemc.  I
can speak and read both English and French, but what I want is
Secwepemctsin.  This is the language of this land.

It's not irrational to say we should support all languages.  To me
it's irrational that we should be promoting any one language above
another.

Yeri Tsucws.


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 14 September 2010
> UK
>
> Are dying languages worth saving?
>
> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>
> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?
>
> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>
> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
> - a sad prospect for some.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 17:01:03 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:01:03 -0400
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=s5ne2kwTcDb-zOam0S=skmMUz8XbHGfwsSh=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.130103.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Bernadette,

I suspect you will get a range of answers to your query for help with this
issue. One place that might be helpful and willing to help you track down
the research you need to support your ideas about integration into the
schools is the National Heritage Language Resource Center -- To be sure,
most of their work is not focused on indigenous languages, but some is and
they do have a lot of facts about language education (and the impact on
children who are learners of heritage languages generally) availale.  I
suggest you contact them directly with your question.
http://www.nhlrc.ucla.edu/

Good luck with this...it is a tough hill to climb, but well worth it for the
kids involved!

Best,
Susan
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Bernadette Santamaria <
bernisantamaria at gmail.com> wrote:

> All:
>
> For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
> board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
> the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
> re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
> language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
> supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
> local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
> recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
> local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
>
> In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
> courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
> system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
> administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
> children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
> children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
> you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
> benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
> curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
>
> Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> WM Apache Language Committee
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Wed Sep 15 20:57:50 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:57:50 EDT
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.165750.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save  
Your Language.
 
_http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
_ 
(http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf) 
 
Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on. 
 
Rosalyn LaPier

Piegan Institute
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/15/2010 10:39:27 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM writes:

All:
 
For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local  
school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in  addition 
to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older  generations 
to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger  generation 
our language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff  changes 
(school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in  these efforts 
by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators  (gathered 
from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to  not 
exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
 
In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these  
courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school  
system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school  
administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children  in local 
schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in  them.  We 
request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can  provide us that 
emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from  inclusion of 
their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae,  need 
examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
 
Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
 
Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language  Committee

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From dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 16 00:12:59 2010
From: dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM (D. Gloumbia)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:12:59 -0400
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ZH+uCzEJuVyF=h-SocVKNKPJ0GbCNkznirVoF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.201259.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I respect Mufwene very much as a linguist, and I know people who know him
well and have worked with him even on issues involving endangered languages,
where he has been more helpful than one might guess, as well as encouraging
the study of diverse languages and of young scholars working on these
topics. He has read a lot (though not very much cultural theory, i think)
and knows a lot. But I nevertheless find his writing on the topic
offensively accepting of an economic (and bio-evolutionary, which makes it
too much like US neocon philosophy) metaphor that he knows better than to
apply to a non-economic (indeed, *sui generis*) phenomenon like language.
The tone of his writings on the topic is not progressive, and not
sympathetic to any of the parties concerned about language loss. Finally,
his work, like too much of the good work on endangerment, fails to target
the #1 issue which I think needs to be addressed: what Foucault would call
the "positive power" created by major langauges that makes it look like they
are "more than" or "more modern than" others, *and that* it is therefore
"more modern" to lose the family language and take up English (or Mandarin,
or Hindi, or Spanish, or Russian, or...) relatively exclusively. There are
too many economic ("competition") and bad pseudo-biology (again,
"competition") metaphors in the writing on this subject. I think we need to
ask more and more how to *undo *this "positive power" of major languages, in
addition to talking about saving languages.

I also really despair, I'll admit, when thoughtful academics (like Mufwene,
& maybe even the blogger) think a good use of their energies is to
discourage people from viewing the loss of languages as a critical issue for
our world today. it is more, not less, critical than outsiders think; it
does no good to give them any reason at all to dismiss the topic. In this
sense, while I in no way protest Mufwene's *right* to do such work, I am
forced to question its point and its motivation.

David

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> 14 September 2010
> UK
>
> Are dying languages worth saving?
>
> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>
> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?
>
> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>
> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
> - a sad prospect for some.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>



-- 
David Golumbia
dgolumbia at gmail.com
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From huangc20 at UFL.EDU  Thu Sep 16 01:09:13 2010
From: huangc20 at UFL.EDU (Chun Jimmy Huang)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:09:13 -0400
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.210913.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Exactly, David, not only are the economic and bio-evolutionary 
metaphors inappropriate for explaining language situations, but 
combining them together, as Mufuwene does, is too convenient and 
Darwinistic.

Plus, many biologists today, like my wife, do not speak of 
evolution in terms of competition (or competition-driven 
adaptation) anymore...

Jimmy

On Wed Sep 15 20:12:59 EDT 2010, "D. Gloumbia" 
<dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I respect Mufwene very much as a linguist, and I know people who 
> know him
> well and have worked with him even on issues involving endangered 
> languages,
> where he has been more helpful than one might guess, as well as 
> encouraging
> the study of diverse languages and of young scholars working on 
> these
> topics. He has read a lot (though not very much cultural theory, 
> i think)
> and knows a lot. But I nevertheless find his writing on the topic
> offensively accepting of an economic (and bio-evolutionary, which 
> makes it
> too much like US neocon philosophy) metaphor that he knows better 
> than to
> apply to a non-economic (indeed, *sui generis*) phenomenon like 
> language.
> The tone of his writings on the topic is not progressive, and not
> sympathetic to any of the parties concerned about language loss. 
> Finally,
> his work, like too much of the good work on endangerment, fails 
> to target
> the #1 issue which I think needs to be addressed: what Foucault 
> would call
> the "positive power" created by major langauges that makes it 
> look like they
> are "more than" or "more modern than" others, *and that* it is 
> therefore
> "more modern" to lose the family language and take up English (or 
> Mandarin,
> or Hindi, or Spanish, or Russian, or...) relatively exclusively. 
> There are
> too many economic ("competition") and bad pseudo-biology (again,
> "competition") metaphors in the writing on this subject. I think 
> we need to
> ask more and more how to *undo *this "positive power" of major 
> languages, in
> addition to talking about saving languages.
> 
> I also really despair, I'll admit, when thoughtful academics 
> (like Mufwene,
> & maybe even the blogger) think a good use of their energies is 
> to
> discourage people from viewing the loss of languages as a 
> critical issue for
> our world today. it is more, not less, critical than outsiders 
> think; it
> does no good to give them any reason at all to dismiss the topic. 
> In this
> sense, while I in no way protest Mufwene's *right* to do such 
> work, I am
> forced to question its point and its motivation.
> 
> David
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
> cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 14 September 2010
>> UK
>> 
>> Are dying languages worth saving?
>> 
>> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>> 
>> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to 
>> discuss saving
>> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive 
>> dialects
>> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom 
>> de Castella?
>> 
>> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>> 
>> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But 
>> the
>> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 
>> and 1,000 of
>> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the 
>> world loses
>> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages 
>> over a decade
>> - a sad prospect for some.
>> 
>> Access full article below:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- David Golumbia
> dgolumbia at gmail.com
> 



Dr. Chun (Jimmy) Huang
Post-doc, National University of Kaohsiung
Linguistic consultant, Tainan Pingpu Siraya Culture Association


From gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 16 13:48:09 2010
From: gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM (adrian john)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:48:09 -0400
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <188211.441530b9.39c28d4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.094809.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>


Yeah, I have that book, it is real good and is a good working model, in my mind.

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:57:50 -0400
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Request
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU








Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save 
Your Language.
 
http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
 
Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on. 
 
Rosalyn LaPier
Piegan Institute
 
 

In a message dated 9/15/2010 10:39:27 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM writes:

  All:
   
  For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local 
  school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in 
  addition to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older 
  generations to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger 
  generation our language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff 
  changes (school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in 
  these efforts by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators 
  (gathered from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to 
  not exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
   
  In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these 
  courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school 
  system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school 
  administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children 
  in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in 
  them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can 
  provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from 
  inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae, 
  need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
   
  Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
   
  Bernadette A. SantaMaria
  WM Apache Language 
Committee 		 	   		  
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From daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU  Fri Sep 17 01:17:43 2010
From: daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU (Daryn McKenny)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:17:43 +1000
Subject: Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages and Technology Forum -
 Calling for presenters, exhibitors, sponsors.
In-Reply-To: <36793AA72949274BAC86C07F36D394677F0E01@acraserv2>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.111743.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please circulate throughout your Networks - Please note that this Forum is in Australia and we welcome International participation.

Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages and Technology Forum

Hi Everyone,

We would like to invite you to participate in the "Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages Technology Forum" to be held at the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane from Wednesday the 11th of May through till Friday the 13th May 2011.
The conference will comprise of the following:
Tuesday 10th May

6pm evening pre-conference get together (for those that arrive early)

Wednesday 11th May

Puliima Day 1

Thursday 12th May

Puliima Day 2

Friday 13th May

Optional Events:


Indigenous Linguists Forum


Focus Workshops

The aim of the Puliima Forum is to bring together people from all over Australia and overseas who are involved in Indigenous language projects and communities to share skills and information on the use of a wide range of technology to support their work. The event showcases a variety of production tools, models and programs that support content production in a range of mediums (sound, multi-media, image and print) and enables community users to experience them first hand. It incorporates knowledge of linguistics, educational programs and teaching methodologies as well as legal, moral and cultural aspects of community language project development.
The 2011 Puliima Forum will run over three days, and will include as an Australian first, a separate forum for Indigenous linguists, of which we are pleased to say there is a growing number. We aim to allow the participants to share their experiences and draft proposals to support employment initiatives, at the same time establishing a supportive network for ongoing contact.
This will be the third Puliima Forum, with the conference having been held in Newcastle in 2007 then Melbourne in 2009 with over 200 people expected to attend the 2011 Forum.
We are thrilled to be hosting Puliima 2011 once again and we encourage you to participate to explore and share the many ways in which language is either being revitalised or preserved in your area.
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From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 17 07:55:23 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:55:23 +1000
Subject: materials on language revitalization
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.175523.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers,

On the RNLD web site, we have a link <http://www.rnld.org/node/83> to some
publications on endangered languages, language documentation and language
conservation. At the top of the page, there are links to journals and series
which can be freely downloaded. Further down the page amongst the
references, some link to other pages where articles can be downloaded. Jon
Reyhner's wonderful group of publications are linked there too.

best wishes,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 18 02:46:39 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:46:39 -0700
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <188211.441530b9.39c28d4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.194639.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kukstsemc Rosalyn.

Xwexwisten. (I like)

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:57 PM,  <Rrlapier at aol.com> wrote:
> Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save
> Your Language.
>
> http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
>
> Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on.
>
> Rosalyn LaPier
> Piegan Institute
>


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 21 18:52:55 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:52:55 -0700
Subject: Documenting a dying dialect: mavericks learn to study and record
 the native language of the Triqui (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.115255.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Documenting a dying dialect: mavericks learn to study and record the native
language of the Triqui

Written by Allen Baldwin, The Shorthorn staff
MONDAY, 20 SEPTEMBER 2010 08:41 PM
USA

In a small village in southern Mexico, women clad in huipiles, colorful
ponchos with stripes, converse with each other in Triqui, their native
language. A language that may soon be gone.

Raymond Elliott, modern language department chair, linguistics professor
Jerold Edmondson and a small group of students travelled to a remote
indigenous village in the state of Oaxaca, Mexico, for the past two summers.

The group went to document and study the language of Chicahuaxtlan Triqui.

Access full article below:
http://www.theshorthorn.com/content/view/20219/58/
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Wed Sep 22 17:08:41 2010
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:08:41 -0400
Subject: Just delete this...who cares!!!!
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.130841.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

http://www.survivalinternational.org/films/havecourage?utm_source=E-news+%28English%29&utm_campaign=4c01f5db1c-E_news_September_20109_22_2010&utm_medium=email

-------
wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon
______________________________________________

"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is
the mind of the oppressed."
______________________________________________


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 22 19:50:08 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:50:08 -0700
Subject: Niue And Cook Island M=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=81oriLanguages_?= Threatened
 (fw dlink)
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.125008.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Niue And Cook Island Māori Languages Threatened

Voxy News Engine
Wednesday, 22 September, 2010 - 13:09
NZ

Niue and Cook Island Māori languages will disappear from New Zealand within
a generation unless urgent action is taken say researchers from The
University of Auckland.

The research by Faculty of Education Senior Lecturer John McCaffery and
Postgraduate research student Judy Taligalu McFall-McCaffery was released
today.

"Our research indicates that Pacific Island languages in New Zealand show
significant signs of language shift and loss, with several languages,
especially Cook Island Māori and Niue language unlikely to survive unless we
do something now," says Mr McCaffery.

Access full article below:
http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/niue-and-cook-island-māori-languages-threatened/5/64473<http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/niue-and-cook-island-m%C4%81ori-languages-threatened/5/64473>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 22 20:02:27 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:02:27 -0700
Subject: Nigerian academics seek to elevate humble Pidgin (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.130227.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nigerian academics seek to elevate humble Pidgin

By Yinka Ibukun
LAGOS | Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:59pm BST
UK

(Reuters Life!) - It may share many of its words and basic grammar with
English, but a perplexed look descends across the face of most newcomers to
Nigeria the first time they are addressed in Pidgin.

"How you dey?" comes the question, or "How body?" (both meaning "how are
you?")

"I dey fine" is the correct response, or, if you're in a less upbeat mood,
"body dey inside cloth", meaning "I'm coping/making do with the situation,"
or literally "I'm still wearing clothes."

Access full article below:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE68J2OG20100920
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From hal1403 at YAHOO.COM  Thu Sep 23 02:07:15 2010
From: hal1403 at YAHOO.COM (Haley De Korne)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:07:15 -0700
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.190715.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Bernadette,
I'm attaching a few articles that describe the importance & benefits of Native language education.

Also, I don't know if it will be useful, but there are several states that have laws that argue that teaching native languages is crucial.  The strongest one is probably Washington.  

Here's a link to their policy statement:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=28A.410.045

Here's the part of the text that I'm thinking about.  They cite their own reasons, and the national law promoting Native language education (Native American Languages Act):

Findings -- 2007 c 319:  "The legislature finds that:

    
 (1) Teaching first peoples' languages, cultures, and oral tribal 
traditions is a critical factor in fostering successful educational 
experiences and promoting cultural sensitivity for all students.  
Experience shows that such teaching dramatically raises student 
achievement and that the effect is particularly strong for Native 
American students;

     (2) Native American students have the 
highest high school dropout rate among all groups of students.  Less 
than one-fourth of Native American students in the class of 2008 are on 
track to graduate based on the results of the Washington assessment of 
student learning.  Positive and supportive educational experiences are 
critical for the success of Native American students;

     (3) 
The sole expertise of sovereign tribal governments whose traditional 
lands and territories lie within the borders of the state of Washington 
in the transmission of their indigenous languages, heritage, cultural 
knowledge, histories, customs, and traditions should be honored;

    
 (4) Government-to-government collaboration between the state and the 
sovereign tribal governments whose traditional lands and territories lie
 within the borders of the state of Washington serves to implement the 
spirit of the 1989 centennial accord and other similar 
government-to-government agreements, including the 2004 accord between 
the federally recognized Indian tribes with treaty reserved rights in 
the state of Washington;

     (5) Establishing a first peoples' 
language, culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher certification 
program both achieves educational objectives and models effective 
government-to-government relationships;

     (6) Establishing a 
first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions 
certification program implements the following policy objectives of the 
federal Native American languages act of 1990 (P.L. 101-477) in a 
tangible way:

     (a) To preserve, protect, and promote the 
rights and freedom of Native Americans to use, practice, and develop 
Native American languages;

     (b) To allow exceptions to 
teacher certification requirements for federal programs and programs 
funded in whole or in part by the federal government, for instruction in
 Native American languages when such teacher certification requirements 
hinder the employment of qualified teachers who teach in Native American
 languages, and to encourage state and territorial governments to make 
similar exceptions;

     (c) To encourage and support the use of 
Native American languages as a medium of instruction in order to 
encourage and support Native American language survival, educational 
opportunity, increased student success and performance, increased 
student awareness and knowledge of their culture and history, and 
increased student and community pride;

     (d) To encourage 
state and local education programs to work with Native American parents,
 educators, Indian tribes, and other Native American governing bodies in
 the implementation of programs to put this policy into effect; and

    
 (e) To encourage all institutions of elementary, secondary, and higher 
education, where appropriate, to include Native American languages in 
the curriculum in the same manner as foreign languages and to grant 
proficiency in Native American languages the same full academic credit 
as proficiency in foreign languages;

     (7) Establishing a 
first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions 
certification program is consistent with the intent of presidential 
executive order number 13336 from 2004, entitled "American Indian and 
Alaska native education," to assist students in meeting the challenging 
student academic standards of the no child left behind act of 2001 (P.L.
 107-110) in a manner that is consistent with tribal traditions, 
languages, and cultures."  [2007 c 319 § 1.]     Short title -- 2007 c 319:
  "This act may be known and cited as the "First peoples' language, 
culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher certification act:  Honoring
 our ancestors.""  [2007 c 319 § 4.]
I hope some of this is helpful.  Best wishes to you!!

Haley

"Language is not merely a body of vocabulary or a set of grammatical rules.  It is a flash of the human spirit, the means by which the soul of each particular culture reaches into the material world.  Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an entire ecosystem of spiritual possibilities."

Wade Davis

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [ILAT] Request
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 12:39 PM

All:
 
For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.

 
In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.

 
Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
 
Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language Committee



      
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From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 23 19:29:08 2010
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:29:08 -0700
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <243809.14532.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.122908.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ashood, ahiye'e (thank you) to Haley & those who provided info in response
to my request for info---it has been very helpful.

Bernadette SantaMaria

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hi Bernadette,
> I'm attaching a few articles that describe the importance & benefits of
> Native language education.
>
> Also, I don't know if it will be useful, but there are several states that
> have laws that argue that teaching native languages is crucial.  The
> strongest one is probably Washington.
>
> Here's a link to their policy statement:
> http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=28A.410.045
>
> Here's the part of the text that I'm thinking about.  They cite their own
> reasons, and the national law promoting Native language education (Native
> American Languages Act):
>
> *Findings -- 2007 c 319:* "The legislature finds that:
>
>      (1) Teaching first peoples' languages, cultures, and oral tribal
> traditions is a critical factor in fostering successful educational
> experiences and promoting cultural sensitivity for all students. Experience
> shows that such teaching dramatically raises student achievement and that
> the effect is particularly strong for Native American students;
>
>      (2) Native American students have the highest high school dropout rate
> among all groups of students. Less than one-fourth of Native American
> students in the class of 2008 are on track to graduate based on the results
> of the Washington assessment of student learning. Positive and supportive
> educational experiences are critical for the success of Native American
> students;
>
>      (3) The sole expertise of sovereign tribal governments whose
> traditional lands and territories lie within the borders of the state of
> Washington in the transmission of their indigenous languages, heritage,
> cultural knowledge, histories, customs, and traditions should be honored;
>
>      (4) Government-to-government collaboration between the state and the
> sovereign tribal governments whose traditional lands and territories lie
> within the borders of the state of Washington serves to implement the spirit
> of the 1989 centennial accord and other similar government-to-government
> agreements, including the 2004 accord between the federally recognized
> Indian tribes with treaty reserved rights in the state of Washington;
>
>      (5) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions teacher certification program both achieves educational
> objectives and models effective government-to-government relationships;
>
>      (6) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions certification program implements the following policy objectives
> of the federal Native American languages act of 1990 (P.L. 101-477) in a
> tangible way:
>
>      (a) To preserve, protect, and promote the rights and freedom of Native
> Americans to use, practice, and develop Native American languages;
>
>      (b) To allow exceptions to teacher certification requirements for
> federal programs and programs funded in whole or in part by the federal
> government, for instruction in Native American languages when such teacher
> certification requirements hinder the employment of qualified teachers who
> teach in Native American languages, and to encourage state and territorial
> governments to make similar exceptions;
>
>      (c) To encourage and support the use of Native American languages as a
> medium of instruction in order to encourage and support Native American
> language survival, educational opportunity, increased student success and
> performance, increased student awareness and knowledge of their culture and
> history, and increased student and community pride;
>
>      (d) To encourage state and local education programs to work with
> Native American parents, educators, Indian tribes, and other Native American
> governing bodies in the implementation of programs to put this policy into
> effect; and
>
>      (e) To encourage all institutions of elementary, secondary, and higher
> education, where appropriate, to include Native American languages in the
> curriculum in the same manner as foreign languages and to grant proficiency
> in Native American languages the same full academic credit as proficiency in
> foreign languages;
>
>      (7) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions certification program is consistent with the intent of
> presidential executive order number 13336 from 2004, entitled "American
> Indian and Alaska native education," to assist students in meeting the
> challenging student academic standards of the no child left behind act of
> 2001 (P.L. 107-110) in a manner that is consistent with tribal traditions,
> languages, and cultures." [2007 c 319 § 1.]
>
>      *Short title -- 2007 c 319:* "This act may be known and cited as the
> "First peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher
> certification act: Honoring our ancestors."" [2007 c 319 § 4.]
>
> I hope some of this is helpful.  Best wishes to you!!
>
> Haley
>
> "Language is not merely a body of vocabulary or a set of grammatical rules.
> It is a flash of the human spirit, the means by which the soul of each
> particular culture reaches into the material world. Every language is an
> old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an entire ecosystem
> of spiritual possibilities."
> Wade Davis
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/15/10, Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: [ILAT] Request
>
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 12:39 PM
>
>
>  All:
>
> For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
> board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
> the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
> re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
> language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
> supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
> local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
> recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
> local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
>
> In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
> courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
> system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
> administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
> children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
> children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
> you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
> benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
> curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
>
> Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> WM Apache Language Committee
>
>
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 23 20:32:26 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:32:26 -0700
Subject: Old anthem, native voice (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.133226.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Old anthem, native voice
Vasquez opens Round-Up by singing anthem in native Umatilla tongue

Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:42 am | Updated: 3:49 pm, Fri Sep
17, 2010.

By OWEN R. SMITH East Oregonian |
USA

As the Centennial Round-Up got under way, thousands of rodeo fans heard the
familiar strains of the national anthem, but listening closer they probably
noticed something just a bit different: Carina Vasquez was singing in the
Umatilla language.

Vasquez’s version of “The Star-Spangled Banner” was the first time in
Round-Up history the national anthem has been sung in a Native American
language, and she called it an empowering experience.

“It was my choice (to sing in Umatilla),” said Vasquez, 19. “It’s my
language. Not a lot of people my age really get to learn those things. It
meant a lot to me making everyone proud. Our language is very important.”

Access full article below:
http://www.eastoregonian.com/sports/rodeo_round_up/article_eef85fd4-c1b9-11df-8719-001cc4c002e0.html?ref=nf

Audio link available
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 24 17:15:06 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:15:06 -0700
Subject: Government of Canada Supports the Preservation and Revitalization
 of the Atikamekw and Innu Languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.101506.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sep 24, 2010 10:30 ET
CA

Government of Canada Supports the Preservation and Revitalization of the
Atikamekw and Innu Languages

WENDAKE, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - Sept. 24, 2010) - On behalf of the Honourable
James Moore, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages, the
Honourable Josée Verner, Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, President of
the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Minister for La Francophonie, and
Minister responsible for the Quebec region, today announced funding for the
Société de communication Atikamekw-Montagnais (SOCAM). This funding will
allow the organization to broadcast 20 hours of radio programming in the
Innu language and 27.5 hours of programming in the Atikamekw language each
week.

Access full article below:
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Government-Canada-Supports-Preservation-Revitalization-Atikamekw-Innu-Languages-1324661.htm
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Fri Sep 24 19:51:05 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:51:05 -0700
Subject: Lost language unearthed in a letter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVf+C3jM=eJfJaTbKPP3qBvf14JLy3i5CGWkic@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.125105.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

(Reuters) - Archaeologists say scrawl on the back of a letter recovered from a 
17th century dig site reveals a previously unknown language spoken by indigenous 
peoples in northern Peru.
A team of international archaeologists found the letter under a pile of adobe 
bricks in a collapsed church complex near Trujillo, 347 miles north of Lima. The 
complex had been inhabited by Dominican friars for two centuries.
"Our investigations determined that this piece of paper records a number system 
in a language that has been lost for hundreds of years," Jeffrey Quilter, an 
archaeologist at Harvard's Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology, told 
Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68M40S20100923
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From enviro.design at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 26 01:33:58 2010
From: enviro.design at YAHOO.COM (Sandra Gaskell)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:33:58 -0700
Subject: learning arabic characters with the left hemisphere
In-Reply-To: <943630.4498.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.183358.0700.ENVIRO.DESIGM@YAHOO.COM>

Here's an interesting article - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11181457
 
 
Sandra Gaskell, RPA, CCC SLP
Speech-Language Pathologist
Registered Professional Archaeologist
MS, MA Anthropology-Geography, CSUS-CSUF
MS-SLP, Northern Arizona University
SLP.D, NSU Candidate



arcresours at gmail.com 
enviro.design at yahoo.com
ascspeech at yahoo.com 






________________________________
From: Troy Anderson <milluk at YAHOO.COM>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 12:51:05 PM
Subject: [ILAT] Lost language unearthed in a letter


(Reuters) - Archaeologists say scrawl on the back of a letter recovered from a 
17th century dig site reveals a previously unknown language spoken by indigenous 
peoples in northern Peru.
A team of international archaeologists found the letter under a pile of adobe 
bricks in a collapsed church complex near Trujillo, 347 miles north of Lima. The 
complex had been inhabited by Dominican friars for two centuries.
"Our investigations determined that this piece of paper records a number system 
in a language that has been lost for hundreds of years," Jeffrey Quilter, an 
archaeologist at Harvard's Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology, told 
Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68M40S20100923



      
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From mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU  Sun Sep 26 01:43:33 2010
From: mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU (monty hill)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:43:33 -0400
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.214333.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

chwe:n everyone!

i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis, entitled Yuwètú:ri:
or *resonant* (it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora language, a branch of the
northern Iroquoian language family, currently located in western new york,
around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i discuss the specific role of
database technology in the Tuscarora language revitalization program and
compare it with technology in two other language communities (thanks much to
the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato University, New Zealand, and
Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of Oklahoma). in short, i hope
you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may find it helpful. i'd love to
answer any questions anyone may have!

nya:weh
monty hill
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From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Sun Sep 26 01:55:07 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:55:07 -0400
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=exHo0GkRqp6YuKU557+3j-QrUr3ZQbex89ac_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.215507.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Monty,
sounds like a great thesis! Could you post the link? I'm sure a lot of
us on the list would like a copy.
Claire

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> chwe:n everyone!
> i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis, entitled Yuwètú:ri:
> or resonant (it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora language, a branch of the
> northern Iroquoian language family, currently located in western new york,
> around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i discuss the specific role of
> database technology in the Tuscarora language revitalization program and
> compare it with technology in two other language communities (thanks much to
> the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato University, New Zealand, and
> Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of Oklahoma). in short, i hope
> you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may find it helpful. i'd love to
> answer any questions anyone may have!
> nya:weh
> monty hill

-- 

-----
Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/


From mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU  Sun Sep 26 02:18:05 2010
From: mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU (monty hill)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:18:05 -0400
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.221805.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

oops.

http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf

here it is!

monty.
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 26 18:04:23 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:04:23 -0700
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UOH4L8O12S+H4NM=mQFnJiiJ8hQyWYj+-m+D8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.26.SEP.2010.110423.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

K'yele (Thanks/Great work!) Monty!

I wonder if you could post the repository up on github?

Since 1986, I've been using (still!) Word Cruncher in DOS (!!) to do analysis of 
Miluk and in dire need of a replacement.  I'd be fine with doing postgres sql 
queries, if need be, but imagine there's still better stuff out there.  I 
suppose I should get some counsel on how to use FieldWorks/FLEX and migrate my 
stuff there... but happy to use anything better than my good ol' DOS program.

Also, enjoyed your exploration of Google Translate services.  Did you write some 
python to import Tuscarora into their .PFM needed format?  Wondered about doing 
that as well.  Why not ditch postgres and move it to Google AppEngine so we all 
could use it ;^)   Just a thought.

Well, I'm straying from the listserv theme a bit, so I'll stop here.

Tsu tsi wes,

Troy



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From: monty hill <mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 7:18:05 PM
Subject: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!

oops.

http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf

here it is!

monty.
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 27 03:37:58 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:37:58 -0700
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UOH4L8O12S+H4NM=mQFnJiiJ8hQyWYj+-m+D8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.26.SEP.2010.203758.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Weytk-p,

That's an interesting thesis.  Since you are already using python and
postgres, I think if you are considering putting the dictionary
online, you might want to look at using Django [1].  It does run on
Google App Engine, but you will lose the relational database aspect of
your code. I put designed a site called Secwepemctsnem [2], and I put
the code up github [3].

I think the most powerful thing about technology tools, is the ability
for people to make use of the online dictionary and use it as a
resource.  Right now I'm using it as one of the resources to translate
Facebook [4].

- Neskie

[1] - http://djangoproject.com
[2] - http://language.secwepemcradio.ath.cx/
[3] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemctsnem
[4] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemc-facebook

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> oops.
> http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf
> here it is!
> monty.


From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 27 19:08:04 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:08:04 -0700
Subject: Fw: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!
Message-ID: <MON.27.SEP.2010.120804.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

Waga k'yele,

Great stuff!  Wouldn't it be great if we could all contribute to the same 
s/Source literally and spiritually... a good start in that direction Neskie!


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From: Neskie Manuel <neskiem at GMAIL.COM>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 8:37:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!

Weytk-p,

That's an interesting thesis.  Since you are already using python and
postgres, I think if you are considering putting the dictionary
online, you might want to look at using Django [1].  It does run on
Google App Engine, but you will lose the relational database aspect of
your code. I put designed a site called Secwepemctsnem [2], and I put
the code up github [3].

I think the most powerful thing about technology tools, is the ability
for people to make use of the online dictionary and use it as a
resource.  Right now I'm using it as one of the resources to translate
Facebook [4].

- Neskie

[1] - http://djangoproject.com
[2] - http://language.secwepemcradio.ath.cx/
[3] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemctsnem
[4] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemc-facebook

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> oops.
> http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf
> here it is!
> monty.
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 28 17:43:08 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:43:08 -0700
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98Genius_grant=E2=80=99a_?= boost to linguist as
 she revive s a native language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.28.SEP.2010.104308.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

‘Genius grant’ a boost to linguist as she revives a native language

By Laura Collins-Hughes
Globe Staff / September 28, 2010
USA

First she cried. Then she found out about the money and nearly fainted.

Jessie Little Doe Baird was overcome at the news that her 17 years of
linguistic work — resurrecting the language the Wampanoag people spoke and
wrote until at least the mid-1800s — had landed her a MacArthur Fellows
“genius grant’’ of $500,000. The 23 recipients of this year’s John D. and
Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation grants, including five others from New
England, were announced this morning.

When the foundation notified Baird, 46, a Mashpee linguist and the program
director of the Wôpanâak Language Reclamation Project, two weeks ago of the
fellowship, the honor brought her to tears. As far as she knows, her
6-year-old daughter is the only child since the 19th century raised from
birth to speak Wampanoag (or, in that language, Wôpanâak).

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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Wed Sep 29 18:04:11 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:04:11 -0500
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=exHo0GkRqp6YuKU557+3j-QrUr3ZQbex89ac_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.29.SEP.2010.130411.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

thanks Monty,
I appreciate you using anything I shared about our own struggling efforts
to revive,resuscitate,apply the paddles, kick the seat, jump start,hot-wire
our Wyandot language thats been blissfully sleeping for ...way tooooo long.

some pop right awake, and others don't wake very happily at all....

richard zane smith


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:43 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:

> chwe:n everyone!
>
> i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis,
> entitled Yuwètú:ri: or *resonant* (it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora
> language, a branch of the northern Iroquoian language family, currently
> located in western new york, around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i
> discuss the specific role of database technology in the Tuscarora language
> revitalization program and compare it with technology in two other language
> communities (thanks much to the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato
> University, New Zealand, and Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of
> Oklahoma). in short, i hope you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may
> find it helpful. i'd love to answer any questions anyone may have!
>
> nya:weh
> monty hill
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From Dmark916 at AOL.COM  Thu Sep 30 18:58:35 2010
From: Dmark916 at AOL.COM (Dmark916 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:58:35 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Heritage Key Digest - Tandem Google Translate Latin Discit
Message-ID: <THU.30.SEP.2010.145835.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This British service has some interesting things, mostly archaeological.  
Today's edition has a fascinating segment in ancient Babylonian/Assyrian. 
How's  that for language restoration! Click on the Akkadian" link to hear the 
language  spoken.
D Martinez
 
 
  
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 From: news at heritage-key.com
To: dmark916 at aol.com
Sent: 9/30/2010 6:07:10  A.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Heritage Key Digest - Tandem Google  Translate Latin Discit 


    
_Heritage Key Digest -  Tandem Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
(http://heritage-key.com/articles/rss.xml) 
 
(http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgs&feedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.com/hkdigest) 
 (http://heritage-key.com/articles/rss.xml)   
____________________________________
  
    *   _Tandem Google Translate  Latin Discit _ 
(mip://07f16de0/default.html#1)  
    *   _Quest Your Way to Find  the Mummies_ 
(mip://07f16de0/default.html#2)   
    *   _The Sound of Akkadian -  Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
(mip://07f16de0/default.html#3)   
    *   _One Step Closer to  Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(mip://07f16de0/default.html#4)  
_Tandem Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hkdigest/~3/zwBdVmDZ_jM/tandem-google-translate-latin-discit?utm_source=feedburn
er&utm_medium=email)  
Posted:  30 Sep 2010 05:42 AM PDT 
 
Google Translate has added Latin to the ever-expanding list of  languages 
the free service offers. In _a post  to the official Google blog_ 
(http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/veni-vidi-verba-verti.html)  titled 'Veni, 
Vidi, Verba  Verti' (which the service translates as 'I came, I saw, I  
translated the words'), Igeniarius Programmandi Jakob  Uszkoreit correctly points 
out that – although it isn't likely to  be used to translate emails (with some 
exceptions, maybe) – the new  service is an excellent tool for scholars all 
over the world as many  ancient and medieval works on philosophy, religion 
and science are  written in Latin, many of those available in Google Books. 
Uszkoreit is convinced the system – still in alpha – will soon  deliver 
accurate translations, as Latin grammar and vocabulary ceased  evolving and 
Google is using the 'thousands' of Latin books already  translated to a 
variety of languages to train the system.  As an  example he quotes Caesar's 'The 
Gallic Wars'.  Yet, when put to the  test regarding Caesar's conquest of 
Pharnaces, Google Translate gets a  bit confused (depending on punctuation): 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
_Ann Wuyts_ (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
(http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=heritage-key-ann&loc=en_US)   or  
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Last three pieces by this author:
_The  Sound of Akkadian - Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/sound-akkadian-listen-ancient-babylonian-online)  | _One  Step 
Closer to Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/one-step-closer-understanding-neanderthal-locomotion)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: 
Sanctuary dedicated to Persian god Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-dis
covered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /…





 
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=zwBdVmDZ_jM:oqp5j0HRn-o:yIl2AUoC8zA)    
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=zwBdVmDZ_jM:oqp5j0HRn-o:qj6IDK7rITs)  

_Quest Your Way to Find the Mummies_ 
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hkdigest/~3/dL7bcBRlFHM/quest-your-way-find-mummies?utm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu
m=email)   
Posted:  30 Sep 2010 03:51 AM PDT 
 
Exploring is more fun now with the new Heritage Key  Virtual Quest in the 
Treasures region! 
As you land in the _Arrivals  Area_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/site/heritage-key-grid-welcome-area)  after logging into _Heritage Key  Virtual_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/site/king-tut-virtual) , make your way to the teleports 
where you will see several  destinations. Selecting "Treasures" will take you to 
_King Tutankhamun's_ (http://heritage-key.com/king-tut)  _Golden  Shrine_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/egypt/encased-gold-shrines-king-tut) . 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/meral-crifasi)   
_Meral Crifasi_ (mip://07f16de0/users/meral-crifasi)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
(http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?
uri=heritage-key-meral-crifasi&loc=en_US)   or  (mip://07f16de0/users/meral-crifasi/feed/rss.xml) )
 
Last three pieces by this author:
_Last  days to win £1,000 worth of Addison Lee Travel in London_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/meral-crifasi/last-days-win-£1000-worth-addison-lee-travel-london
)  | _Meet-Up  at the Valley of the Kings for Live Music _ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/meral-crifasi/meet-valley-kings-live-music) | _Meet the  Driver 
Challenge_ (mip://07f16de0/blogs/meral-crifasi/meet-driver-challenge) 

Meral joined Rezzable Productions Ltd. exactly  three years ago. It was 
there that she had her first Virtual World  Experience and got really 
fascinated by the most amazing experiences  they have created in that period of time. 
Now she's even more excited  about the future and growth of Heritage Key. 
Meral…





 
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(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=dL7bcBRlFHM:ENtEqH6sgtI:qj6IDK7rITs)  

_The Sound of Akkadian - Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hkdigest/~3/U94q1ITloTQ/sound-akkadian-listen-ancient-baby
lonian-online?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)    
Posted:  30 Sep 2010 03:51 AM PDT 
 
 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scruch/4245370037/) Almost 2,000 years after 
its last native  speakers disappeared, the sound of Ancient Babylonian 
makes a comeback  in an online audio archive.  The recordings include excerpts 
from  some of the earliest known works of world literature, dating back to 
the  first years of the second millennium BC. 
Prompted by the enquiries of curious colleagues and friends, Dr.  Martin 
Worthington,  an expert in Babylonian and Assyrian grammar  _from  the 
University of Cambridge_ 
(http://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/teaching_and_research/jr_fellows/m_worthington/) , has begun to record readings of  Babylonian poems, myths 
and other texts in the original tongue. In an  effort to present users with 
a variety of voices, the readings –  available online for free at 
_www.speechisfire.com_ (http://www.speechisfire.com/)  – are given  by Dr. 
Worthington's fellow Assyriologists. 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
_Ann Wuyts_ (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
(http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=heritage-key-ann&loc=en_US)   or  
(mip://07f16de0/users/ann/feed/rss.xml) )
 
Last three pieces by this author:
_Tandem  Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/tandem-google-translate-latin-discit) | _One  Step Closer to Understanding 
Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/one-step-closer-understanding-neanderthal-locomotion)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: Sanctuary dedicated to Persian 
god Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-discovered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /…





 
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=U94q1ITloTQ:m6ubo4OjJu8:yIl2AUoC8zA)    
(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=U94q1ITloTQ:m6ubo4OjJu8:qj6IDK7rITs)  

_One Step Closer to Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hkdigest/~3/4o5ODNvymXo/one-step-closer-understanding-neandert
hal-locomotion?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)   
Posted:  29 Sep 2010 10:44 AM PDT 
 
A new research project from the Université Libre de  Bruxelles (ULB) takes 
us “one step further” as it comes to understanding  Neanderthal locomotion. 
 The Laboratory of Anatomy, Biomechanics  and Organogenesis' (LABO for 
short) project created a 3D virtual  reconstruction of a pair of Neanderthal 
lower limbs.

The  skeleton shows the Neanderthals had the same moves as we do – and  
between 5% and 20% more leverage than us.   
Homonids (that includes all forms of the human lineage, be it extinct  or 
living) started bipedal locomotion (moving by means of your two rear  limbs 
or, in our case, legs) some 6 million years ago.  When you  compare our 
'modern man' gait to that of our fellow hominids, man takes  giant steps.  But 
what about the Neanderthals? To which degree is  their locomotion comparable 
to ours? 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
_Ann Wuyts_ (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
(http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=heritage-key-ann&loc=en_US)   or  
(mip://07f16de0/users/ann/feed/rss.xml) )
 
Last three pieces by this author:
_Tandem  Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
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Babylonian online_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/sound-akkadian-listen-ancient-babylonian-online)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: Sanctuary dedicated to Persian god 
Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-discovered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /…





 
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 30 19:55:24 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:55:24 -0700
Subject: Lorretta Webster, fluent in Oneida, dies at 100 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.30.SEP.2010.125524.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Lorretta Webster, fluent in Oneida, dies at 100

She was part of tribe's language revitalization project

BY SCOTT WILLIAMS • SWILLIAMS at GREENBAYPRESSGAZETTE.COM • SEPTEMBER 30, 2010
USA

HOBART — Lorretta Webster, one of the last people to learn Oneida as a first
language, died Monday. She was 100.

The Hobart native worked with the Oneida Language Revitalization Program,
started in 1996 after a survey found only 25 to 30 tribal elders were fluent
in Oneida.

"She never stopped using her language," said Inez Thomas, a coordinator at
the Oneida Cultural Heritage Center. "She never quit."

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 30 19:59:06 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:59:06 -0700
Subject: Preserving Mechoopda tradition (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.30.SEP.2010.125906.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Preserving Mechoopda tradition

A young tribe member creates a learning program using old recordings of the
native language

By Meredith J. Cooper
meredithc at newsreview.com
This article was published on 09.30.10.
USA

When Kyle McHenry stood in front of the elders of his Mechoopda Maidu tribe
and played for them a program he’d created of their native language this
summer, tears came to their eyes.

“There are no native speakers,” he said. “It was worth all the work that I
did just to see the look on their faces. They haven’t heard it since they
were kids.”

One of the elders he spoke to was his grandmother, Delores McHenry.

“My grandfather was fluent in the language,” Delores explained. “But he
could not pass it on to my dad because Bidwell wasn’t letting them speak the
language.”

So Koyoongkawi, the Mechoopda dialect, could have been lost forever. But for
young tribe members like Kyle, preserving traditions like language are
extremely important.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 30 20:15:43 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:15:43 -0700
Subject: Cherokee Language App Available (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.30.SEP.2010.131543.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Cherokee Language App Available

Posted: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:25 am
USA

Native culture is now pop culture as Cherokee language software is available
on Apple's iPhone and iPod Touch devices, a Cherokee Nation news release
states.

"People communicate differently today. Including our language on the iPhone
and iPod makes it accessible to more people, especially our youth. This is
critical to the survival and growth of our language," Principal Chief Chad
Smith said.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 22:19:25 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:19:25 -0700
Subject: Indigenous Australia bolsters film, sound archive (fwd media link)
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.151925.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Indigenous Australia bolsters film, sound archive

August 31, 2010 08:59:06
Australia

The project to preserve important and iconic parts of Australia's film and
sound history has been expanded again this year to include new pointers to
the evolution of Australia's indigenous and settler relations.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 23:09:11 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:09:11 -0700
Subject: Israel sponsors Dubbo Indigenous languages hub (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.160911.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Israel sponsors Dubbo Indigenous languages hub

Australia

The Embassy of Israel is financing an IT centre that will give Indigenous
Australians a new way to share their traditional stories.

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  1 23:45:13 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:45:13 -0700
Subject: New Zoom H1 coming
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinShvohR3LUQ8MWZO7Fua5DQvF1yfWH2Ff-H43b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.1.SEP.2010.164513.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I want to briefly add that using a video camera has its challenges as much
as audio recording.  For example, setting up your camera in front of a
consultant/elder is not the best way to proceed (as I come to learn!) as the
person may freeze up before the camera when it comes time to turn it on.
Deer in the headlights kind of thing.  What I started to do was to have my
camera ready to run once I arrived at my location (tripod, audio mic, plug
ready, etc.).  Some elders start without any hesitation or cues from you, so
you have to be ready!  It also helped that I had the camera positioned below
head level (from the floor) rather than at eye level, etc.  This prevents
"looking" into the camera via our normal eye gaze behavior.  Often I sat
next to the camera rather than behind the camera.  However, if they gestured
quite a bit, as is common, then you may have to sit behind the camera to
capture extraordinary occasional gestures (via the movement of the camera
frame).    All of this describes a interview session on par with audio
recording.  As with most anything, grasping the visual/audio know how can
only come with experience and practice.

Phil Cash Cash (Cayuse/Nez Perce)
University of Arizona




On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Claire Bowern <clairebowern at gmail.com>wrote:

> Daryn you'll be driving a Mazda next!
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Daryn McKenny <daryn at acra.org.au> wrote:
> > Mine is ordered and is two weeks away from arriving on our Island.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our kit will then comprise H4, H4n x 2, Q3 and then this H1 ? zoom zoom
> zoom
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 1:46 AM
> > To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ILAT] New Zoom H1 coming
> >
> >
> >
> > I want one!
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Daryn McKenny <daryn at acra.org.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have just posted this on the RNLD list, but seeing as though Australia
> is
> > last on the list to get the exciting things I was wondering if anyone
> else,
> > somewhere, already has one and can comment on it.
> >
> >
> >
> > As posted on RNLD:
> >
> >
> >
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Thu Sep  2 05:12:21 2010
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 01:12:21 -0400
Subject: Amazon Watch
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From qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU  Thu Sep  2 15:03:01 2010
From: qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU (Quincee Baker)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:03:01 -0500
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.100301.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance.

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From jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  2 18:01:53 2010
From: jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Jessica Fae Nelson)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:01:53 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <8BA579FF69CAE64490A73CC0DA1027D920315B5AA8@MATO.fbcc.bia.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.110153.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a
dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity,
anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will
have different advice.  It's freeware:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.

Hope this helps.

Jessica

2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>

>  Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of
> equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2)
> what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from
> the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you
> for your suggestions in advance.
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  2 18:59:18 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:59:18 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimzbqx99Oxkg9ofjKaCvNFzuyVqSbRkMo8NX_43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.115918.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if
you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple
solution.

Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection
yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called
RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out"
from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I
can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as
audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS
player, maybe in the back.

Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.

What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using
the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.

Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug"
adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect
directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H
out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out
there somewhere.

Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your
computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the
audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.
Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust
for input levels.

Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in
Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.

If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation
on getting a VHS to dvd deck.

Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or
correct.

Phil
UofA




Next,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <
jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a
> dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity,
> anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will
> have different advice.  It's freeware:
>
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
>
> It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jessica
>
> 2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>
>
>  Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of
>> equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2)
>> what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from
>> the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you
>> for your suggestions in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>
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From qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:30:26 2010
From: qbaker at FORTBERTHOLDCC.EDU (Quincee Baker)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:30:26 -0500
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimFT1nREqzmgf8C9ucaO9BVPUpjXWG0dQ_TPtF5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.163026.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Thank you.

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple

To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple solution.

Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out" from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS player, maybe in the back.

Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.

What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.

Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug" adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out there somewhere.

Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.  Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust for input levels.

Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.

If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation on getting a VHS to dvd deck.

Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or correct.

Phil
UofA




Next,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <jfnelson at email.arizona.edu<mailto:jfnelson at email.arizona.edu>> wrote:
As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity, anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will have different advice.  It's freeware:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.

Hope this helps.

Jessica
2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu<mailto:qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>>

Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance.



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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:39:54 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:39:54 -1000
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <8BA579FF69CAE64490A73CC0DA1027D920315B5B06@MATO.fbcc.bia.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.113954.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.

I attended a meeting this summer with some mainland folks who specialize in digitization and archiving of audio and video resources from every imaginable format going back to wax cylinders. They did a very informative presentation that included a discussion of the obsolescence of various technologies, and how difficult and sometimes impossible it is to find parts and equipment for some formats. This may be true of VHS before we know it. I'd buy a couple (actually have one already) and put the others into storage for future use, perhaps future generations to use.

Just my 2 cents.

Keola


On 2010 Kep. 2, at 11:30, Quincee Baker wrote:

> Thank you.
>  
> From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [ILAT] simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
>  
> To follow along with Jessica's excellent suggestion, I was thinking that if you only need the audio content from the VHS there may be a simple solution.  
> 
> Have you ever noticed that most VHS players have a three prong connection yellow (video), white (L Audio) and red audio (R Audio)?  These are called RCA interconnectors.  You may be able to connect with the RCA "audio out" from your VHS to an "audio in" or "mic" connection to your computer.  I can't recall at the moment which of these three is a single output as audio.  Anybody?  In any case, you might even see a "line out" on your VHS player, maybe in the back.  
> 
> Basic steps to capturing VHS audio.
> 
> What you will need is Audacity (freeware).  Just do a Google search using the Audacity keyword and you will find it easy.  Download Audacity.  
> 
> Next, you will need a "RCA to 1/4" Phone" cable and a 1/4" to "miniplug" adapter (or 1/4" to 1/8").  The miniplug adapter will allow you to connect directly to your computer "mic" (audio in).  I order all my stuff from B&H out of New York.   Who knows, there may even be a "RCA to miniplug" out there somewhere.  
> 
> Once, you are connected, set your adjustments within Audacity and thru your computer audio to insure that the audio signal is recognized.  That is, the audio signal from the VHS to your computer.  This will take a few tests.  Once you have a signal then you are ready to record.  You may need to adjust for input levels.  
> 
> Set your VHS to play and simultaneously hit the big red "record" button in Audacity.  You are now recording your audio to your computer.  
> 
> If you need the visual and audio then just follow Jessica's recommendation on getting a VHS to dvd deck.  
> 
> Mine is a just a quick solution for you all.  Please feel free to add on or correct.  
> 
> Phil
> UofA
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Next,
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson <jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> As far as I know what you'll need is a duo VHS/dvd player that includes a dvd burner.  After that you'll be able to edit the audio using Audacity, anyway that is what I use, maybe someone with more editing experience will have different advice.  It's freeware:
> 
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
> 
> It is not a 'heavy' program, I believe the system requirements are minimal.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Jessica
> 
> 2010/9/2 Quincee Baker <qbaker at fortbertholdcc.edu>
>  
> Have some recordings of elders speaking on vhs tapes.  (1) In terms of equipment and supplies what is needed to transfer these to dvd?  And  (2) what is an easy to use, preferable freeware, for editing of the sound from the vhs.  What is the needed equipment configuration for that?  Thank you for your suggestions in advance. 
>  
>  
>  



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From klokeid at UVIC.CA  Thu Sep  2 21:51:16 2010
From: klokeid at UVIC.CA (Terry J. Klokeid)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:51:16 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <87A8CE2C-6B92-4B2F-960D-172F6CCFF090@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.145116.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

On 02-09-2010, at 2:39 pm, Keola Donaghy wrote:

> Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.

Inexpensive stand-alone DVD recorders are also available. I have a couple made by Sanyo, I am sure there are other brands. Then you just hook the VHS player to the DVD recorder, and it makes a DVD for you, without connecting to a computer.


From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Thu Sep  2 21:55:28 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:55:28 -1000
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <3C4310A7-DE78-48E7-BAC0-DFC059F1FF7A@uvic.ca>
Message-ID: <THU.2.SEP.2010.115528.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Aloha, yes, this can be done too. I'm more concerned about having the ability to playback VHS in the perhaps not-too-distant future. DVD may go the way of the Edsel someday, too, but it's not an immediate concern.

My reply was a bit off-topic to the initial question, but thought I'd share those experiences regarding format obsolescence while they were fresh in my mind ;-)

Keola

On 2010 Kep. 2, at 11:51, Terry J. Klokeid wrote:

> On 02-09-2010, at 2:39 pm, Keola Donaghy wrote:
> 
>> Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low that it should be economically feasible.
> 
> Inexpensive stand-alone DVD recorders are also available. I have a couple made by Sanyo, I am sure there are other brands. Then you just hook the VHS player to the DVD recorder, and it makes a DVD for you, without connecting to a computer.



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From Jimrem at AOL.COM  Fri Sep  3 12:24:30 2010
From: Jimrem at AOL.COM (Jimrem at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:24:30 EDT
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.082430.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order  a 
couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks 
are  getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low 
that it  should be economically feasible.
 
 
One problem is that if you want to make audio only copies from  your DVDs 
many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB  format.  That is fine 
to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard  to find a decent program 
to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as  a sound file.
 
If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into your  
computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
 
Jim
 
Jim  Rementer
Lenape Language Project
Bartlesville, OK,  74006
[www.talk-lenape.org] 
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 14:51:49 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 07:51:49 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <146d39.4419a613.39b242fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.075149.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

This sounds like it should be some web page somewhere.

I purchased this to get vhs video onto my computer.

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/easy-vhs-to-dvd/mac/overview.html

The cost was like $100 CAD.

It creates mp4 and mov files.  I can also extract the audio using audacity.

Neskie Manuel


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:24 AM,  <Jimrem at aol.com> wrote:
>>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a
>>> couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS decks
>>> are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so low
>>> that it should be economically feasible.
>
>
> One problem is that?if you want to make audio only copies from your
> DVDs?many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB format.??That is
> fine to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard to find a decent
> program to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as a sound file.
>
> If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into your
> computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Rementer
> Lenape Language Project
> Bartlesville, OK, 74006
> [www.talk-lenape.org]
>



-- 
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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 18:48:52 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:48:52 -0500
Subject: Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....
In-Reply-To: <D4E9ADEA-914D-4D15-84EA-99E2E2AF8A8A@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.134852.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi, Keola,

Thanks for the heads up!

I have now tested the ICD-SX750 for Mac compatibility.  It is as simple as
plugging into a USB port, clicking on "IC Recorder" icon on the desktop and
then dragging and dropping the files.  I then played both a .wav (LPCM at
44.1Hz) and an .mp3 file by simply clicking on them.  They both opened up
immediately and played on my default player (iTunes).  I then opened the
.wav file using Transcriber.  There were no problems either.  So, it seems
that the ICD-SCX750--in contrast to the ICD-MX20-- really is Mac
compatable.  That said, I almost wish I had waited just a few days more and
I would have been able to get a Zoom H1....  Maybe next time!  LOL!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Hehater

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Keola Donaghy <donaghy at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Heather, have you tested the Mac compatibility? I have an ICD-MX20, and in
> all recording modes it uses Sony's proprietary compression, which cannot be
> read on any Mac program I'm aware of  (this was based on testing and
> research 2 years ago when I bought it; perhaps that's changed). When I
> bought the unit I too was told it was "Mac compatible. The unit will mount
> on a Mac, but the files are unreadable/unplayable. I've always had to load
> them on a PC, convert to WAV or MP3, then transfer to my Mac. Perhaps your
> model is different and allows you to record uncompressed or using a
> compression scheme that is Mac readable.
>
> Keola
>
> On 2010 ?Au. 30, at 10:38, Heather Souter wrote:
>
> I just purchased Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder to use in
> field recording.   I got it on sale for about $150CAD and am hoping it is a
> sound purchase (PC/MAC compatiable, records in Linear PCM in both 22.05 and
> 44.2Hz....).  I have a good XLR mic and need to purchase a XLR to stereo
> mini-jack transformer cable.  I am thinking of going with a Hosa but if
> anyone has a different suggestion, please advise.
>
> BTW, thanks to some recent comments on the list about the impact of
> weird-looking recording gadgets on Eldersilat, I will be keeping my wind
> sock on my voice recorder at almost all times!
>
>
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Edonaghy/>
>
> "T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Fri Sep  3 19:10:47 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 19:10:47 +0000
Subject: Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=OXvxwka3q9fqc9TVVcTHPe69xYj8rE5eBRSR2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.191047.0000.>

We have used a similar model recorder for our audio recordings and it has worked very well although when I download files to my computer I name the files but if I open them in Itunes, I lose the file names because Itunes displays titles and so does my MP3 player. I wish I knew how to name thee titles. We have thousands of recordings so labelling them all is necessary. 


Cathy W 
First Languages Speaking Project Inc. 
www.allanadam.com
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld

-----Original Message-----
From:         Heather Souter <hsouter at GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Indigenous Languages and Technology <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Date:         Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:48:52 
To: <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Reply-To:     Indigenous Languages and Technology <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder....

Taanshi, Keola,

Thanks for the heads up!

I have now tested the ICD-SX750 for Mac compatibility.  It is as simple as
plugging into a USB port, clicking on "IC Recorder" icon on the desktop and
then dragging and dropping the files.  I then played both a .wav (LPCM at
44.1Hz) and an .mp3 file by simply clicking on them.  They both opened up
immediately and played on my default player (iTunes).  I then opened the
.wav file using Transcriber.  There were no problems either.  So, it seems
that the ICD-SCX750--in contrast to the ICD-MX20-- really is Mac
compatable.  That said, I almost wish I had waited just a few days more and
I would have been able to get a Zoom H1....  Maybe next time!  LOL!

Eekoshi pitamaa.
Hehater

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Keola Donaghy <donaghy at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> Heather, have you tested the Mac compatibility? I have an ICD-MX20, and in
> all recording modes it uses Sony's proprietary compression, which cannot be
> read on any Mac program I'm aware of  (this was based on testing and
> research 2 years ago when I bought it; perhaps that's changed). When I
> bought the unit I too was told it was "Mac compatible. The unit will mount
> on a Mac, but the files are unreadable/unplayable. I've always had to load
> them on a PC, convert to WAV or MP3, then transfer to my Mac. Perhaps your
> model is different and allows you to record uncompressed or using a
> compression scheme that is Mac readable.
>
> Keola
>
> On 2010 ?Au. 30, at 10:38, Heather Souter wrote:
>
> I just purchased Sony ICD-SX750 Stereo digital voice recorder to use in
> field recording.   I got it on sale for about $150CAD and am hoping it is a
> sound purchase (PC/MAC compatiable, records in Linear PCM in both 22.05 and
> 44.2Hz....).  I have a good XLR mic and need to purchase a XLR to stereo
> mini-jack transformer cable.  I am thinking of going with a Hosa but if
> anyone has a different suggestion, please advise.
>
> BTW, thanks to some recent comments on the list about the impact of
> weird-looking recording gadgets on Eldersilat, I will be keeping my wind
> sock on my voice recorder at almost all times!
>
>
>
>
> ========================================================================
> Keola Donaghy
> Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies
> Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu
> University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/<http://www2.hawaii.edu/%7Edonaghy/>
>
> "T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
> A country without its language is a country without its soul.
> ========================================================================
>
>
>
>

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From hsouter at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep  4 00:35:31 2010
From: hsouter at GMAIL.COM (Heather Souter)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 19:35:31 -0500
Subject: Questions regarding Sony Voice Recorders and mp3 title/artist
 notations and iTunes and mp3 title/artist notations
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.193531.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Taanshi,



If I download mp3 files recorded on a Sony ICD-SX750 to a Mac and use iTunes
to create a CD,  is it only possible to save the data as .aiff files?  If
yes, is this why the information encoded does not show up when played by
non-Mac players?  If no, how do I create "non-aiff" CDs using iTunes?  Or,
is there a free audio management/CD burning tool that I can use on a Mac to
create CDs with mp3 files that can be read by PCs, car audio systems,
non-iPod mp3 players as well as Macs and iPods?

Thanks for reading this!

Eekoshi pitamaa.  That's it for now.

Heather
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From donaghy at HAWAII.EDU  Sat Sep  4 00:42:38 2010
From: donaghy at HAWAII.EDU (Keola Donaghy)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 14:42:38 -1000
Subject: Questions regarding Sony Voice Recorders and mp3 title/artist
 notations and iTunes and mp3 title/artist notations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGKz2WzqyWKNgmKoZM8+dn5PRj3xggesoCS7H-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.144238.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Heather, when you burn an audio CD you lose all that information, it is not stored in AIF files, nor WAV (if I'm not mistaken, in WAVs as well, but not sure). MP3, AAC, MP4 and other formats allow you to store that meta-data along with the audio.It is an audio CD. What you want to do is make a data CD and simply copy the MP3s to it.

If you want to make a data CD that can be read on PC, you need to format a CD for PC on your Mac (yes, you can do this). Don't use iTunes to burn the CD, or it will simply convert them back and you lose the meta-data. Drag them to the CD icon from iTunes, and just burn the CD in the Finder. The "burn" icon should appear in the left hand column of your finder window; it looks like the "nuclear waste" icon you also see in iTunes, if I'm not mistaken.

This CD you can use to copy them to a PC. Also, since they are MP3s, you can copy many more to a CD since they are compressed. You can put perhaps 100 MP3s or more on a data CD like this, whereas you may only get 10-15 in AIFF.

Keola

On 2010 Kep. 3, at 14:35, Heather Souter wrote:

> If I download mp3 files recorded on a Sony ICD-SX750 to a Mac and use iTunes to create a CD,  is it only possible to save the data as .aiff files?  If yes, is this why the information encoded does not show up when played by non-Mac players?  If no, how do I create "non-aiff" CDs using iTunes?  Or, is there a free audio management/CD burning tool that I can use on a Mac to create CDs with mp3 files that can be read by PCs, car audio systems, non-iPod mp3 players as well as Macs and iPods?



========================================================================
Keola Donaghy                                           
Assistant Professor of Hawaiian Studies 
Ka Haka 'Ula O Ke'elikolani             keola at leoki.uhh.hawaii.edu 
University of Hawai'i at Hilo           http://www2.hawaii.edu/~donaghy/

"T?r gan teanga, t?r gan anam."  (Irish Gaelic saying)
A country without its language is a country without its soul.
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Sat Sep  4 01:47:59 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 18:47:59 -0700
Subject: Saving First Nations languages from extinction (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.184759.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saving First Nations languages from extinction

Last Updated: Friday, September 3, 2010 | 4:48 AM ET
Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/02/nbvotes-analysis-andrea-bear-nicholas-first-nations-language.html
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sun Sep  5 14:11:09 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 09:11:09 -0500
Subject: Native American Calling
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.091109.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kweh all,
if anyone is out there reading from your square screens on Labor Day
weekend?
On Monday (Central Standard Time 12:00 noon) on your computers,
 *Native American Calling* will be interviewing *First Peoples Fund *honorees
for 2010
*Community Spirit Awards* -  for arts related community cultural work.

for the radio broadcast on Monday, following is the URL for your friends and
family to listen:
 http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/nv1/ppr/index.shtml.

Just click on any listening option and you should be able to bring it up.

tizhameh!
Richard Zane Smith
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From jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep  6 18:32:26 2010
From: jfnelson at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Jessica Fae Nelson)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:32:26 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwzNFLiGiih1w1YGQ1rck87_tZCLee1pv=Biko@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.113226.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I've used FFmpeg (freeware) to encode vob files, but it seems to like to
have both audio and video for the "input" (although you only discover this
when it won't export functional files).  You have to be pretty tech savvy to
do the download too, honestly I can't remember the details anymore but here
is the link:

http://ffmpeg.org/download.html

To rip the audio, I've had trouble with Audacity not wanting to export in
mp3 format and have found it much easier to use Switch (there is a free
version and a pay version,  I use the free version and have had no issues).
It doesn't seem to mind if your files start out video + audio and end up as
just audio and it spits them out pretty fast.  I haven't tried vob files
with Switch but it would be worth it to see since Switch is a very easy
download, easy to use, etc.

http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

I hope this helps.

Jessica

2010/9/3 Neskie Manuel <neskiem at gmail.com>

> This sounds like it should be some web page somewhere.
>
> I purchased this to get vhs video onto my computer.
>
> http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/easy-vhs-to-dvd/mac/overview.html
>
> The cost was like $100 CAD.
>
> It creates mp4 and mov files.  I can also extract the audio using audacity.
>
> Neskie Manuel
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:24 AM,  <Jimrem at aol.com> wrote:
> >>>Personally I would (and now that I think of it, probably will) order a
> >>> couple of the VHS/DVD players. My understanding that stand-alone VHS
> decks
> >>> are getting harder to come by, and the combo VHS/DVD decks are price so
> low
> >>> that it should be economically feasible.
> >
> >
> > One problem is that if you want to make audio only copies from your
> > DVDs many of the VHS/DVD machines save their copies in VOB format.  That
> is
> > fine to play with your DVD player on the TV, but hard to find a decent
> > program to rip the audio portion into a format you can edit as a sound
> file.
> >
> > If you want audio only the RCA plugs to mini-phone plug directly into
> your
> > computer as someone suggested might be the best solution.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Rementer
> > Lenape Language Project
> > Bartlesville, OK, 74006
> > [www.talk-lenape.org]
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neskie Manuel
> http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx
> Voicemail: 1 (866)-423-0911
> Tel: (250) 434-5734
> SIP: mac at sip.ca2.link2voip.com
> Skype: neskiemanuel
> Twitter: @neskiem
> Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/neskie
>
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Tue Sep  7 18:30:52 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.133052.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 06:42:53 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:42:53 -0700
Subject: simple transfer from vhs to dvd - hope simple
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHToJJDuGGK0DiqKhz6hfukuo_i1Yv62DVxDeP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.234253.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

FFMPEG is trivial to install on a Linux system like Ubuntu, and almost
trivial to install on a Mac I would suggest using Mac Ports.  I have
no idea about Windows.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jessica Fae Nelson
<jfnelson at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> I've used FFmpeg (freeware) to encode vob files, but it seems to like to
> have both audio and video for the "input" (although you only discover this
> when it won't export functional files).? You have to be pretty tech savvy to
> do the download too, honestly I can't remember the details anymore but here
> is the link:
>
> http://ffmpeg.org/download.html
>
> To rip the audio, I've had trouble with Audacity not wanting to export in
> mp3 format and have found it much easier to use Switch (there is a free
> version and a pay version,? I use the free version and have had no issues).
> It doesn't seem to mind if your files start out video + audio and end up as
> just audio and it spits them out pretty fast.? I haven't tried vob files
> with Switch but it would be worth it to see since Switch is a very easy
> download, easy to use, etc.

To export to mp3 using Audacity you'll have to follow these instructions.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&item=lame-mp3

I think the newer versions of Audacity offer to download and install
LAME for you.  I would suggest using the beta version.  It's stable,
and it's nice to work with.


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 06:52:44 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:52:44 -0700
Subject: Cherokees keep up with technology (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.235244.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

September 7, 2010

Cherokees keep up with technology
Apple apps are placing language at the cutting edge.

By BETTY RIDGE
USA

TAHLEQUAH ? More than a century ago, fullblood Cherokee Soggy Sanders was
dubious about the telephone?s value after the first line had been installed
in Tahlequah. A quick demonstration convinced him otherwise.

?It talks in Cherokee,? he exclaimed.

Access full article below:
http://tahlequahdailypress.com/features/x797275527/Cherokees-keep-up-with-technology
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 06:57:09 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 23:57:09 -0700
Subject: N.B. Liberals make campaign pledge of native language training in
 schools (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.7.SEP.2010.235709.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

N.B. Liberals make campaign pledge of native language training in schools

By: The Canadian Press
Posted: 7/09/2010 6:40 AM

FREDERICTON - Students in New Brunswick could have the chance to learn the
Maliseet and Mi'kmaq languages if the Liberals win the provincial election.

Access full article below:
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:03:21 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:03:21 -0700
Subject: N.B. Grits propose First Nations language classes (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.000321.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

N.B. Grits propose First Nations language classes

Last Updated: Tuesday, September 7, 2010
CBC News

Liberal Leader Shawn Graham explains his plan to introduce traditional First
Nations languages in the province's classrooms. (CBC)The New Brunswick
Liberals are proposing that Maliseet and Mi'kmaq languages be taught in the
school system.

Leading up to the Sept. 27 provincial election, Liberal Leader Shawn Graham
made the announcement on Tuesday at the Chief Harold Sappier Memorial
Elementary School on the St. Mary's First Nation in Fredericton.

Graham said the goal is to develop a curriculum that will have First Nations
language training as a part of the school system at every grade in the
public system.

"The Mi'kmaq and Maliseet culture and language are an important part of what
defines New Brunswick," Graham said in a statement.

Access full article below:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/07/nbvotes-first-nations-language-education-943.html
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:01:05 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:01:05 -0700
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.000105.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for
'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection

David Smith in Johannesburg
guardian.co.uk,
Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST

The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South
Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan ?
comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen ? claim
they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the
democratic government.

Access full article below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/06/south-africa-khoisan-legal-action
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 07:16:12 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 02:16:12 -0500
Subject: cashcash@email.arizona.edu Wanted to share this article from
 www.theworldlink.com
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.021612.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

ilat at listserv.arizona.edu,
The Mill-Luck language revitalization

Coquille Tribe celebrates salmon, culture, language  

Click on the link or Copy and Paste the address into your internet browser window.
http://www.theworldlink.com/news/local/article_f3853ce3-82f8-5d39-b740-898eb249765b.html

- cashcash at email.arizona.edu




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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 11:29:31 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 04:29:31 -0700
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
In-Reply-To: <8482115.1127475.1283884253129.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.042931.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow Thanks for sharing that, I can't wait to see the video on YouTube.
 One of the first things I learned was 'A Secwepemc Prayer' [1], if
you ever fly into Kamloops BC you'll see it posted at the airport[2].
Prayer is a good way to start learning the language.  It will be said
before meals, at gatherings and before you go to bed.  Prayers
reinforce everything about the language, and communicate an important
message to ourselves, our family and friends, as well as the Creator
(or who/whatever you believe in).  The revitalization of Hebrew had
something to reciting prayers.

[1] - http://neskiemanuel.ath.cx/mp3/A%20Secwepemc%20Prayer.mp3
[2] - http://www.kamloopsairport.com/sitecm/i/secwepemc%20prayer.jpg

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Tammy DeCoteau <tdc.aaia at verizon.net> wrote:
> Han Mitakuyapi,
>
> Throughout the years, our program has?been visited by members of our
> community asking for help from them with prayers.? In fact, if you ask
> adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the
> Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost
> reason.
>
> We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language
> in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the
> third CD?as parts of?prayers.? The time has arrived to make this decision
> and I have decided not to.
>
> Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders
> worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no
> one might remember that word or those words later on.? So I do have what I
> would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in
> the next few days.
>
> I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you
> should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came
> up with to help people who have asked for that help.
>
> Pidamayaye.
>
> Tammy DeCoteau
> AAIA Native Language Program


From kburner at ROSETTASTONE.COM  Wed Sep  8 11:57:36 2010
From: kburner at ROSETTASTONE.COM (Burner, Katie)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:57:36 -0400
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd
 link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinCJKQqnhT=8bAEv+mTpCRUB4ZEVCO=_wkHOnBO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.075736.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

How can I remove my email from the list-serv?

From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip E Cash Cash
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:01 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [ILAT] South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd link)

South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for 'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection

David Smith in Johannesburg
guardian.co.uk<http://guardian.co.uk>,
Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST

The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan ? comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen ? claim they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the democratic government.

Access full article below:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/06/south-africa-khoisan-legal-action
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From Jimrem at AOL.COM  Wed Sep  8 14:25:16 2010
From: Jimrem at AOL.COM (Jimrem at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:25:16 EDT
Subject: prayer
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.102516.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Regarding learning prayers, one of our elders who was teaching a language  
class said, "Students  have been asking how to say a prayer in the Lenape 
language.  We normally do not learn to say prayers  by memory.  You pray based 
on what  is in your heart and you select your words for what you want to 
say as you go  along; however, since most people do not yet have enough grasp 
of Lenape, what  follows is a sample format for a prayer." 
 
The  format then gives the Lenape words with English translation.  You can 
alter  your prayer to fit what you want to say.  Options are set in   [   ]  
and separated by /.
 
Here  is an example of the English with options in the opening part of a  
prayer:
 
 
Our Creator, truly [thankful]  / [I am glad] that I can  
[stand] / [am here] now on this [morning]  / [day] /  
[evening].   [A few words] I want to say  something. 
Jim Rementer
Lenape Language Project
[w_ww.talk-lenape.org_ (http://www.talk-lenape.org) ]  
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From tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET  Wed Sep  8 15:24:50 2010
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:24:50 -0500
Subject: prayer
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 16:10:07 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:10:07 -0700
Subject: South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition (fwd
 link)
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Language is a key component in the aspirations of the Khoi and Boesman
poeple's.

"The group has issued a memo for President Jacob Zuma with a list of eight
demands including full recognition of its traditional leaders.

The memo also calls for "full linguistic recognition of all our indigenous
Khoi and Boesman languages and the capacity to develop and proliferate these
among our people" and "a full review of all land-rights claims submitted by
our people and the proper and sustainable implementation of all agreements
relating to settled claims"."

Phil



On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:57 AM, Burner, Katie <kburner at rosettastone.com>wrote:

>  How can I remove my email from the list-serv?
>
>
>
> *From:* Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:
> ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Phillip E Cash Cash
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:01 AM
> *To:* ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> *Subject:* [ILAT] South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
> (fwd link)
>
>
>
> South Africa's forgotten bushmen fight for recognition
> Khoisan, southern Africa's first inhabitants, seek legal redress for
> 'injustices' and demand land rights as well as cultural protection
>
> David Smith in Johannesburg
> guardian.co.uk,
> Monday 6 September 2010 19.56 BST
>
> The first inhabitants of southern Africa are taking the government of South
> Africa to court for "cultural genocide and discrimination". The Khoisan ?
> comprising pastoral Khoikhoi and hunter-gatherer San, or Bushmen ? claim
> they were dispossessed by colonialism and still lack recognition by the
> democratic government.
>
> Access full article below:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/06/south-africa-khoisan-legal-action
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep  8 16:51:33 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:51:33 -0700
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
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Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health

By Iskhandar Razak

Updated Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:23am AEST
Australia

The first dictionary translating anatomical and medical terms from English
to an ancient Aboriginal language has been published.

The dictionary, which has taken six years to complete, translates over 200
terms into Yolngu Matha, the main language used in east Arnhem Land in the
Northern Territory.

Access full article below:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/08/3005808.htm
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From jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 16:42:59 2010
From: jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM (Derksen Jacob)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:42:59 +0000
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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Thanks for sharing that. I look forward to the youtube clip.

An area of interest for me is the role that religion and spirituality plays in both language shift and in language revitalization. 

It seems to me that language often hangs on in prayers and spiritual teachings and also plays a key role in inspiring people to learn, re-learn or teach their language. And, as much as religion of oppressors/ dominant culture has been instrumental in language shift, esp church run residential schools, it has also played a role in preserving language in Bibles, orthographies and so on, or in keeping it vital as is the case with Guarani in Paraguay.

If anyone knows of research related to the role that religion or spirituality plays in language revitalization, I'd be very grateful.

Best regards,

Jakob

 


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET
Subject: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Han Mitakuyapi,

Throughout the years, our program has been visited by members of our community asking for help from them with prayers.  In fact, if you ask adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost reason.

We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the third CD as parts of prayers.  The time has arrived to make this decision and I have decided not to.  

Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no one might remember that word or those words later on.  So I do have what I would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in the next few days.

I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came up with to help people who have asked for that help.

Pidamayaye.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 		 	   		  
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From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET (Tammy DeCoteau)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:07:44 -0500
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 18:40:45 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:40:45 -0400
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
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David Nash sent me the link to the online dictionary:
http://www.ards.com.au/healthdictionary/lexicon/main.htm
It's a wonderful resource, well done Yurranydjil, Marilyn, Salome and
everyone involved!
Claire

-- 

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Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/


From gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Sep  8 18:50:41 2010
From: gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM (adrian john)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:50:41 -0400
Subject: Prayers in our Native Language
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I was apart of a pilot program that our nation sponsored that was based on learning language through Ceremonial and ritual practices. 

Just some background information; I am a member of the Seneca Nation of Indians located in Western new york state.  We have a school called the Ganososgeh Henondiesta Koh, or the Faithkeepers school.  The school was built to educate youth in the ceremonial ways of our Longhouse.  In 2007 the school was sponsored to have an adult program where participants were paid to learn the ceremonial language, protocols and songs of the Longhouse.  There were 6 of us originally.  

The learning process for this varied, some of us chunked information, memorized etc. In all senses we were constantly cramming as we were actually using this language to help perform ceremonies; either privately or in formal community ceremonies.  As you mentioned, language is held on to by those that practice traditional teachings, as is the case with our language.  Most if not all speakers of the language are members of the longhouse spiritual practices. 

There is no formal research as to our progress or the systems that we used, except for our daily journals and our actual involvement in putting what we learned to use.  That is probably the best assessment.  

I can tell you that it does work though, I came in knowing hardly anything to knowing quite a bit of language, songs and the meanings to our ceremonies.  This was done just over a year involved in the project.  The original 6 have moved on to other areas, but we remain a key component to taking care of our ceremonies in our communities.  There are 4 new participants involved now and if this continues we will have created a new pool of leadership in our longhouse.

I hope this helps a little.

Adrian John

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 16:42:59 +0000
From: jieikobu at HOTMAIL.COM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU








Thanks for sharing that. I look forward to the youtube clip.

An area of interest for me is the role that religion and spirituality plays in both language shift and in language revitalization. 

It seems to me that language often hangs on in prayers and spiritual teachings and also plays a key role in inspiring people to learn, re-learn or teach their language. And, as much as religion of oppressors/ dominant culture has been instrumental in language shift, esp church run residential schools, it has also played a role in preserving language in Bibles, orthographies and so on, or in keeping it vital as is the case with Guarani in Paraguay.

If anyone knows of research related to the role that religion or spirituality plays in language revitalization, I'd be very grateful.

Best regards,

Jakob

 


Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:30:52 -0500
From: tdc.aaia at VERIZON.NET
Subject: [ILAT] Prayers in our Native Language
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU

Han Mitakuyapi,

Throughout the years, our program has been visited by members of our community asking for help from them with prayers.  In fact, if you ask adults why they want to learn their language, to be able to pray to the Creator in their language is often either the reason or the secondmost reason.

We are in the middle of a project to create three CDs of everyday language in Dakotah and all year long I have struggled with the idea of creating the third CD as parts of prayers.  The time has arrived to make this decision and I have decided not to.  

Each time we have been asked for help, I have saved whatever the elders worked on ... in fact, I never throw anything away, even drafts because no one might remember that word or those words later on.  So I do have w
 hat I would consider a "general" prayer and I will be putting this on youtube in the next few days.

I want people to know, though, that we are not saying that this is how you should pray, but simply offering this as one way that a group of elders came up with to help people who have asked for that help.

Pidamayaye.

Tammy DeCoteau
AAIA Native Language Program 		 	   		  
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From daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU  Wed Sep  8 22:46:49 2010
From: daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU (Daryn McKenny)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:46:49 +1000
Subject: Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)
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This is awesome

Regards
?
Daryn 
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Arwarbukarl Cultural Resource Association Inc. Trading as:
Miromaa Aboriginal Language and Technology Centre
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-----Original Message-----
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Claire Bowern
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 4:41 AM
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Dictionary turns Aboriginal words into good health (fwd link)

David Nash sent me the link to the online dictionary:
http://www.ards.com.au/healthdictionary/lexicon/main.htm
It's a wonderful resource, well done Yurranydjil, Marilyn, Salome and everyone involved!
Claire

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Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/

From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 20:47:03 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:47:03 -0700
Subject: Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.134703.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem

Mises Daily: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 by Danny Hieber

We have room for but one language in this country, and that is the
English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our
people out as Americans, of    American nationality, and not as
dwellers in a polyglot boarding house.

    ? Theodore Roosevelt[1]

There are 6,909 languages alive in the world today. Seventy-four are
indigenous to California alone ? languages like Hupa, Kawaiisu, and
Shoshone ? while Papua New Guinea has over 800, with a median of just
1,200 speakers per language.

As astonishing as these figures seem, they obscure a stark reality:
potentially half of these languages are set to vanish in the next
century. Don't believe me? Consider that in North America, out of 296
known languages at the time of European contact, only 33 are being
actively passed down to the next generation. The rest will become
extinct upon the death of their last speakers (if they haven't
already), probably sometime this century.[2]

Access full article below:
http://mises.org/daily/4687


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 20:58:32 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:58:32 -0700
Subject: 1 in 5 aboriginal kids off-reserve know native language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.135832.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

1 in 5 aboriginal kids off-reserve know native language

CTV.ca News Staff
Updated: Thu. Sep. 9 2010 9:04 AM ET
Canada

OTTAWA ? A newly released study says one in five younger First Nations
children living off-reserve were able to understand an aboriginal language
in 2006.

Statistics Canada reports Cree and Ojibway were the languages understood by
the largest number of the kids ages 2-5.

Access full article below:
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20100909/native-language-100909/
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep  9 21:02:35 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:02:35 -0700
Subject: Health talk in language they can understand (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.140235.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Health talk in language they can understand

September 10, 2010
Australia

A dictionary in Yolngu will counter fear and ignorance, writes Lindsay
Murdoch.

When some Yolngu Aborigines living in north-east Arnhem Land were asked last
year about their understanding of a heart attack, they replied that it was
an alien disease where an agent or foreign body attacks someone's heart.

A stroke, they told researchers, was also a term unknown in their
vocabulary: they thought it meant soothing a sick person.

For decades Western doctors and health workers have struggled to communicate
with indigenous people from remote communities for whom English is their
second, third or even fourth language.

Access full article below:
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/wellbeing/health-talk-in-language-they-can-understand-20100909-153bl.html
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From pouemes at FREE.FR  Thu Sep  9 21:33:09 2010
From: pouemes at FREE.FR (pouemes)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:33:09 +0200
Subject: aboriginal language translation
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.233309.0200.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello from france
 
I have a very short poem alredy translated in 270 languages, even in some rares dead languages (maya, copte, hieroglyphs, arapaho, mahican etc) made by researchers
 
For 50% of the translations i have also real natives voices who say them, most of time made by radios, sometimes big internationals radios
 
I should be really happy to get a translation of my short poem into an aboriginal language.
 
Because of an important animation, i shall prefer that you discover it on my website here
http://pouemes.free.fr/poesie/poem-translations.htm
 
I really hope for you could like my project and would help for this very short translation with perhaps the audio of a native voice who say it.
 
waiting for your news
 
regards
Jean-Yves 
pouemes at free.fr
http://www.facebook.com/poete.bellon 
 
the english translation of my poem, is not far french, so can be usefull
 
Your image in the mirror,
Is my most beautiful poem,
But, be quick it disappears,
It's my last "I love you"! 
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From enviro.design at YAHOO.COM  Fri Sep 10 00:49:18 2010
From: enviro.design at YAHOO.COM (Sandra Gaskell)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 17:49:18 -0700
Subject: Urgent votes by Fri Fw: Fwd: Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural
 Geospatial Standards Committee
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.174918.0700.ENVIRO.DESIGM@YAHOO.COM>

Volunteers on this group are the GIS mapping and cultural resource workers from 
the Tribes. Please pass along this voting list for a Geospatial standards group. 
Read the informaiton below and nominate people from the regions not covered in 
the list. There are 10 core work group participants, but we can have a large 
participating list?on a peer review group. 


I had suggested using linguistics boundaries- but they had to use the NPS 
districting boundaries. You can direct questions to deidre_mccarthy at nps.gov?or 
rosemarie.mckeon at gmail.com

link to the google earth map: at 
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106830217254494681678.00048fc5eb0a3f55335fa&ll=47.040182,-117.246094&spn=45.172766,106.699219&t=h&z=3
 for references to regions.


Sandra Gaskell, RPA, CCC SLP
Speech-Language Pathologist
Registered Professional Archaeologist
MS, MA Anthropology-Geography, CSUS-CSUF
MS-SLP, Northern Arizona University
SLP.D, NSU Candidate


arcresours at gmail.com 


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <rosemarie.mckeon at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Subject: Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural Geospatial Standards Committee
To: arcresours at gmail.com



If you have trouble viewing or submitting this form, you can fill it out online: 

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHNLUU5XTTB5WkIzQVBYSGZfTUdQNXc6MQ
 
Vote for Tribal Reps to NPS Cultural Geospatial Standards Committee
There have been over 20 tribal volunteers to the NPS Cultural Geospatial 
Standards committee for about 10 positions. The first 4 were allocated by NPS on 
a first-come-first serve basis. The NPS needs your help in selecting the other 6 
representatives. To ensure that most of the US is represented, I have divided 
the country into 13 regions associated with recognized Native American 
communities. The National Congress of the American Indian website lists 
federally recognized tribes under 'areas', which areas seem more appropriate for 
tribes than the usual federal or business regional models. Please vote for one 
person or tribe in each of the 13 regions, noting that there are several regions 
where no one has come forward to assist with this important effort. Everyone who 
volunteers will be included into a larger peer review committee which will 
receive all communications and notes from the core committee of 10 tribal 
representatives as well as from the NPS. Please review the Google map located at 
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106830217254494681678.00048fc5eb0a3f55335fa&ll=47.040182,-117.246094&spn=45.172766,106.699219&t=h&z=3
 for references to regions. For ease in communication, a forum for the core and 
peer committee has been set up at: http://bit.ly/bdwxeD Please login or create 
an account to post a message to the forum. The forum will be viewable by the 
pubic, and hopefully, will encourage broader communication between tribal 
cultural geospatial expertise. Best wishes! 



Please select our lone representative located in the Alaskan Region * 
Please feel free to recommend someone/s in this region to join the peer group. 
	*  Denise Rankin, President, Qawalangin Tribe of Unalaska 
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative who is located in the North West Region * 
Jill Wagner and John Hartman with the Coeur d'Alene tribe were already approved 
by the NPS into the core committee. Please consider making recommendation for 
the larger peer committee 

	*  Robin Harkins Nichole Norris from Coquille Tribe
	*  Jeff Cronce Nez Perce Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative/tribal community who is located in the Pacific 
Region. * 

Sandra Gaskell, Tribal Archaeologist, and Danette Johnson, GIS Analyst, Southern 
Miwuk, was selected for the core committee. Please make recommendations for 
others to join the larger peer committee. 

	*  Frank Arredondo, Freddie Romero, Santa Ynez Band of Chumash 
	*  Elaina Albers, Yurok Tribe
	*  Marcos Guerrero, Cultural Resources Specialist, United Auburn Indian 
Community
	*  Shanti Warlick, Colfax-Todds Valley Consolidated Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one representative who is located in the Western Region. * 
Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Bridget Nash, THPO, Quechan Indian Tribe
	*  Vernalee Grant, Historic Preservation & Archeology Department, San Carlos 
Apache Tribe
	*  Other: 

Please select one of three representative who can take the lead to represent the 
Navajo Region. * 

Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Darlene Jenkins, GIS Analyst
	*  Lenora Tsosie
	*  Gerald O'Hara, BIA
	*  Let them all share one vote and decide among themselves who should take the 
lead
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Rocky 
Mountain Region. * 

Blackfeet Tribe, Chippewa-Cree Indians of the Rocky Boy's Reservation, Crow 
Tribe of Montana, Eastern Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, Fort 
Belknap Indian Community, Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, Northern 
Arapaho Tribe, Northern Cheyenne Tribe, Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians 
of Montana 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the South West 
Region. * 

Jicarilla Apache Nation, Mescalero Apache Tribe, Ohkay Owingeh, Pueblo of Acoma, 
Pueblo of Cochiti, Pueblo of Isleta, Pueblo of Jemez, Pueblo of Laguna, Pueblo 
of Nambe, Pueblo of Picuris, Pueblo of Pojoaque, Pueblo of San Felipe, Pueblo of 
San Ildefonso, Pueblo of Sandia, Pueblo of Santa Ana, Pueblo of Santa Clara, 
Pueblo of Santo Domingo, Pueblo of Taos, Pueblo of Tesuque, Pueblo of Zia, 
Pueblo of Zuni, Southern Ute Indian Tribe, Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, Ysleta del 
Sur Pueblo 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Great 
Plains Region * 

Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians, Spirit Lake Sioux Tribe, Standing Rock 
Sioux Tribe, Three Affiliated Tribes of Mandan Hidatsa & Arikara Nation, Omaha 
Tribe of Nebraska, Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska, Ponca Tribe of Nebraska, Santee 
Sioux Nation, Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe, Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate of the Lake 
Traverse Reservation, Crow Creek Sioux Tribe, Lower Brule Sioux Tribe, Rosebud 
Sioux Tribe, Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, Oglala Sioux Tribe of the Pine Ridge 
Reservation, Yankton Sioux Tribe 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Southern 
Plains Region * 

Absentee Shawnee Tribe of Indians of Oklahoma, Alabama-Coushatta Tribes of 
Texas, Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Caddo Nation, Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of 
Oklahoma, Citizen Potawatomi Nation, Comanche Nation, Delaware Nation, Fort Sill 
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma, Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska, Iowa Tribe of 
Oklahoma, Kaw Nation, Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas, Kickapoo Tribe of 
Indians in Kansas, Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma, Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma, Ponca Tribe of 
Oklahoma, Prairie Band of Potawatomi Nation, Sac and Fox Nation of Missouri in 
Kansas and Nebraska, Sac and Fox Nation of Oklahoma, Tonkawa Tribe of Oklahoma, 
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the Eastern 
Oklahoma Region * 

Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town, Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, Chickasaw Nation, 
Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma, Eastern Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, Kialegee Tribal 
Town, Miami Tribe of Oklahoma, Modoc Tribe of Oklahoma, Muscogee (Creek) Nation, 
Osage Tribe, Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, Peoria Tribe of Oklahoma, Quapaw Tribe of 
Indians, Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma, Shawnee 
Tribe, Thlopthlocco Tribal Town, United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in 
Oklahoma, Wyandotte Nation 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

Please select one of representative located in the Mid West Region. * 
Please write in any recommendations to the peer committee 
	*  Dawn Sherk, GIS Technician/Transportation Planner, White Earth Nation
	*  Ken Marshall, Keweenaw Bay Indian Community
	*  Other: 

Please select one of representative located in the South East Region. * 
Robert Thrower, Poarch band of Creek Indians was approved by NPS beforehand. 
Please write in any recommendations for the peer committee 

	*  David Wyatt, Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians
	*  Paul Backhouse and Juan J. Cancel, Seminole Tribe of Florida
	*  Other: 

Please recommend someone/s from one of the tribal communities in the North East 
Region (some are only state recognized) * 

Aroostook Band of Micmacs, Cayuga Nation, Houlton Band of Maliseet Indians, 
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe, Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe, Mohegan Indian Tribe, 
Narragansett Indian Tribe, Oneida Nation of New York, Onondaga Indian Nation, 
Passamaquoddy Tribe - Indian Township Reservation, Passamaquoddy Tribe - 
Pleasant Point Reservation, Penobscot Nation, Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe, Seneca 
Nation of New York Shinnecock Indian Nation, Tonawanda Seneca Nation, Tuscarora 
Nation, Wampanoag Tribe of Gay Head Aquinnah, Chickahominy Indian Tribe, Inc., 
Eastern Pequot Tribal Nation, Nanticoke Lenni-Lenape Tribal Nation, Schaghticoke 
Indian Tribe, Unkechaug Nation 

	*  I don't know anyone
	*  Other: 

There is a big region near the center of the US that lacks federally recognized 
tribes. If you know of a tribal community vying for recognition, please consider 
adding their name to the peer list 


Anything you would like to say about this process to the map or form 
implementation or more generally to the NPS? 

Please help me improve this kind of form to serve future tribal community 
recommendations. 

  
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 10 23:06:55 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:06:55 -0700
Subject: Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.160655.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software

Written by TRAVIS NOLAND, Cherokee Nation
Thursday, 09 September 2010 16:09
USA

TAHLEQUAH, Okla. ? The leap from Native culture to pop culture has
officially been made. The Cherokee language is now available for the first
time on iPhones and iPods for more than 300 million users across the globe.
The Cherokee Nation has been working with the software developers at Apple,
Inc. for several years to incorporate the tribe?s unique written language,
called the Cherokee syllabary, into new technology offered by the software
giant. Cherokee is the first Native language to be featured on Apple, Inc.
devices, and is one of about only 40 languages overall.

Access full article below:
http://nativetimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4228:cherokee-language-added-to-new-iphone-and-ipod-software&catid=43&Itemid=19
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 11 03:04:40 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:04:40 -0700
Subject: Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software (fwd
 link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimetcavF9HCagNFg-iHNuwqnFfMmriysG3QTTm0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.200440.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

That's really great.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Cherokee language added to new iPhone and iPod software
>
> Written by TRAVIS NOLAND, Cherokee Nation
> Thursday, 09 September 2010 16:09
> USA
>
> TAHLEQUAH, Okla. ? The leap from Native culture to pop culture has
> officially been made. The Cherokee language is now available for the first
> time on iPhones and iPods for more than 300 million users across the globe.
> The Cherokee Nation has been working with the software developers at Apple,
> Inc. for several years to incorporate the tribe?s unique written language,
> called the Cherokee syllabary, into new technology offered by the software
> giant. Cherokee is the first Native language to be featured on Apple, Inc.
> devices, and is one of about only 40 languages overall.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://nativetimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4228:cherokee-language-added-to-new-iphone-and-ipod-software&catid=43&Itemid=19
>



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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Sat Sep 11 04:01:41 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:01:41 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.230141.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and  
hear his honor song.

Swell evening. The honorees are doing the good work in beautiful ways.

Congratulations, Richard!
_______________________
Allies, LLC

Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Martin Case
research/writer/editor
Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
Allies: Research and Writing
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Sat Sep 11 21:19:34 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 16:19:34 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
In-Reply-To: <0717FDFD-8F48-4B66-A613-2137CD4044CA@alliesmediaart.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.161934.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

tizhameh! (thanks) Mona,
you were there!?!?!
What an uplifting experience it was to have our efforts "celebrated"
this unique and wonderful way...I'm feeling so recharged!
I'm thankful for The First Peoples Fund. What an awesome staff....
I feel like I have a new family.

ske;noh
richard



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mona Smith <mona at alliesmediaart.com>wrote:

> An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and hear
> his honor song.
>
> Swell evening. The honorees are doing the good work in beautiful ways.
>
> Congratulations, Richard!
> _______________________
> *Allies, LLC *
> *
> *
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> *Allies: media/art*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *
> *
> Martin Case
> research/writer/editor
> Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
> *Allies: Research and Writing*
> *4720 32nd Avenue South*
> *Minneapolis, MN 55406*
> *indiantreatysigners at gmail.com*
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
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From mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM  Sat Sep 11 23:05:05 2010
From: mona at ALLIESMEDIAART.COM (Mona Smith)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:05:05 -0500
Subject: Just got home from the Community Spirit Awards
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=FOaT3e1GXZZh39iDOGnYK+CD9pXfDNALB7UOB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.180505.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

yup.  Came up afterwords in the "lobby" and introduced myself, too.  
But I spoke quickly and moved faster.  Big night, many people wanted  
your time!  Nice to have met you.  Today is a beautiful day in Dakota  
homelands - 71 degrees and sunny with a breeze.  Great day for pow-wow  
at the confluence of the Mississippi and Minnesota Rivers (VERY close  
to the airport.)

I found the event energizing, just being in the audience.  They're  
honoring the right people for the right reasons.   AND the food was  
fabulous.


I wish all of ILAT could have been there.

Mona Smith

On Sep 11, at 4:19 PM Sep 11, Richard Zane Smith wrote:

> tizhameh! (thanks) Mona,
> you were there!?!?!
> What an uplifting experience it was to have our efforts "celebrated"
> this unique and wonderful way...I'm feeling so recharged!
> I'm thankful for The First Peoples Fund. What an awesome staff....
> I feel like I have a new family.
>
> ske;noh
> richard
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mona Smith  
> <mona at alliesmediaart.com> wrote:
> An honor and delight to watch Richard Zane Smith - see his work, and  
> hear his honor song.
>
> Swell evening. The honorees are doing the good work in beautiful ways.
>
> Congratulations, Richard!
> _______________________
> Allies, LLC
>
> Mona M. Smith
> media artist/producer/director
> Allies: media/art
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
>
> Martin Case
> research/writer/editor
> Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
> Allies: Research and Writing
> 4720 32nd Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55406
> indiantreatysigners at gmail.com
>
> http://www.alliesmediaart.com
>
>
>
>
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_______________________
Allies, LLC

Mona M. Smith
media artist/producer/director
Allies: media/art
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Martin Case
research/writer/editor
Director of the Indian Treaty Signers Project
Allies: Research and Writing
4720 32nd Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
indiantreatysigners at gmail.com

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From hal1403 at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 12 23:47:18 2010
From: hal1403 at YAHOO.COM (Haley De Korne)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:47:18 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.164718.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,

I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:? As a student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language 
education, I want to know where information that might be useful to 
educators and advocates can best be shared/ received.? I am thinking mainly of 
written forms, but not exclusively...? Any input is welcome!

What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?

Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?

I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 

Chii migwech, thank you for your input!

Haley De Korne




      
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 05:14:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:14:45 -0700
Subject: Language Camp (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.221445.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sunday, September 12, 2010

Language Camp
By Libby Sterling | Juneau Empire
USA

It is a crisp, summer day, maybe unofficially one of the first of autumn. A
group is gathered in the open air around a propane stove ? some are sitting,
some are standing, but all are focused on the contents of the cooking pot.

It's seal fat (tsaa eix?), cooking in its own oils ? no additives are
necessary for this dish. The fat has been cut into bite-sized chunks. When
cooked, each piece will hold its own shape ? crispy on the outside with a
light, airy center.

As the fat comes to temperature, the group breaks out into a Tlingit song.
Mary Folletti (Daalj?ni) momentarily reassigns her stirring spoon to play
the role of a drumstick. As, she sings, she gently beats the spoon on the
side of the pot, keeping the beat.

In a nearby smokehouse, another meal is in preparation. This smoked salmon
(?x akawdudlis'eigi x?at) was cut into strips earlier in the day and has
been smoking for a few hours. Hans Chester (Naakil.aan) removes the
smokehouse door to check on the salmon's status.

Chester is one of about a dozen attendees at a Tlingit language immersion
retreat, held over Labor Day weekend at the Eagle River United Methodist
Camp.

Access full article below:
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/091210/nei_706944824.shtml
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 05:16:45 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:16:45 -0700
Subject: Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.221645.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Saskatchewan native dialects endangered

'This is the foundation of our culture'

Last Updated: Sunday, September 12, 2010 | 10:38 AM CST
CBC News

Aboriginal language experts say several native dialects are endangered in
Saskatchewan as fewer young people learn their ancestral tongues.

There are eight aboriginal languages spoken the province. The most widely
spoken are Cree and Saulteaux.

Statistics Canada says one in five aboriginal children under the age of five
can understand an aboriginal language.


Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/09/12/sask-aboriginal-languages-threatened.html#ixzz0zNqk9ZlN
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 11:53:21 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:53:21 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <58705.1477.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.075321.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Good Questions Haley,

I turn folks to JonTeyhner's site on "Teaching Indigenous Languages" (
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html) as a good overall resource for
revitalization activities.  For those wanting help with documentation, there
is the journal out of Hawaii online "Language Documentation and
Conservation" which also has some revitalization content. For those wanting
to know what is happening with technology in the context of indigenous
language teaching, I would recommend trying to find Candace Galla's recent
dissertation.

That is just off the top of my head...looking forward to what others
think...

Susan

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student
> & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to
> know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can
> best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not
> exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at
> to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to
> get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
> Haley De Korne
>
>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 11:55:07 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 07:55:07 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <58705.1477.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.075507.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sorry for the typo....-- Jon *Reyhner *(not Teyhner)...

S.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student
> & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to
> know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can
> best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not
> exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at
> to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to
> get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
> Haley De Korne
>
>
>


-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 12:29:10 2010
From: bischoff.st at GMAIL.COM (s.t. bischoff)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:29:10 -0400
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinH9jVpDXR2V=kHLBb6wv8GMEpGpMPMmRt0Ri5G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.082910.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as
well...it has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range
of issues...here is the link

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html<http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/%7Ejar/TIL.html>

Shannon



On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry for the typo....-- Jon *Reyhner *(not Teyhner)...
>
> S.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>>
>> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a
>> student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I
>> want to know where information that might be useful to educators and
>> advocates can best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written
>> forms, but not exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
>>
>> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look
>> at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or
>> to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy
>> strategies?
>>
>> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>>
>> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm
>> wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners?
>> (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language
>> and Education, Language Policy, etc.)
>>
>> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>>
>> Haley De Korne
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> **********************************************************************************************
> *Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> **(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*
>
>
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
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From chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 13:13:28 2010
From: chimiskwew at HOTMAIL.COM (Cathy Wheaton)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:13:28 +0000
Subject: Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinabjRHqJYr0JNPsDJCzdkiF9BCFtO-5CP4b0Ek@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.131328.0000.>

This article contains a major inaccuracy, Cree and Dene are the 2 most commonly spoken languages in Saskatchewan, not Cree and Saulteaux
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless handheld

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From:         Phillip E Cash Cash <cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sender:       Indigenous Languages and Technology <ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Date:         Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:16:45 
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Subject: [ILAT] Saskatchewan native dialects endangered (fwd link)

Saskatchewan native dialects endangered

'This is the foundation of our culture'

Last Updated: Sunday, September 12, 2010 | 10:38 AM CST
CBC News

Aboriginal language experts say several native dialects are endangered in
Saskatchewan as fewer young people learn their ancestral tongues.

There are eight aboriginal languages spoken the province. The most widely
spoken are Cree and Saulteaux.

Statistics Canada says one in five aboriginal children under the age of five
can understand an aboriginal language.


Read more:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2010/09/12/sask-aboriginal-languages-threatened.html#ixzz0zNqk9ZlN

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From mhermes at D.UMN.EDU  Mon Sep 13 14:20:10 2010
From: mhermes at D.UMN.EDU (Mary Hermes)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:20:10 -0500
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimVtxzfdLy_4Sub8J=eO1Cg1v+sZ8UZ_Q6gD=Jc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.092010.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My all time favorite for applied and useful is still the Green Book of Language Revitalization, Hinton and Hale.

I also found the online papers from the first international conference on language documentation and conservation in Hawaii very good, more recent. I think these are free, in print, but I couldn't find that link.  I did find a link that has audio of all of these papers http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961
Maybe someone else knows the link for the written versions?

Gidoojibwem ina? 
Ge giin miigwech gagwejimiyan!
Waabishkimiigwan

--------------------------------------------
Mary Hermes, PhD
Associate Professor of Education
Eni-gikendaasoyang:  Center for Indigenous Language and Culture Revitalization
University of Minnesota Duluth
715-462-4230



On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:29 AM, s.t. bischoff wrote:

> The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as well...it has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range of issues...here is the link
> 
> http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html
> 
> Shannon
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry for the typo....-- Jon Reyhner (not Teyhner)...
>  
> S.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
> 
> I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student & young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to know where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can best be shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not exclusively...  Any input is welcome!
> 
> What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
> 
> Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
> 
> I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 
> 
> Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
> 
> Haley De Korne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> **********************************************************************************************
> Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
> (Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
> E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
> Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
> 
> 
> Department of English (Primary)
> Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture, 
> Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT), 
> American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
> The Southwest Center
> University of Arizona,
> Tucson, Arizona 85721
> 
> 
> 

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From gforger at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Mon Sep 13 15:39:00 2010
From: gforger at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Garry Forger)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:39:00 -0700
Subject: $4.1 million invested in tribal land-grant institutions
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin7A7i8htU4QomNAVOUkUfGgN-7S0nX+yAyNA5O@mail.gmail.com>
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Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack recently announced that 22 tribal colleges in nine states have been chosen to receive $4.1 million in grants through the USDA Rural Development Tribal College Initiative Grant Program.

 

 

http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/living/health/Secretary-Vilsack-announces-investment-of-41-million-in-tribal-land-grant-institutions-102373704.html

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From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 13 15:42:29 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:42:29 -0400
Subject: $4.1 million invested in tribal land-grant institutions
In-Reply-To: <0f4f01cb5359$ca6ff240$5f4fd6c0$@arizona.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.114229.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Wow...thanks ...good to know about this!

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Garry Forger <gforger at email.arizona.edu>wrote:

>  Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack recently announced that 22 tribal
> colleges in nine states have been chosen to receive $4.1 million in grants
> through the USDA Rural Development Tribal College Initiative Grant Program.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/living/health/Secretary-Vilsack-announces-investment-of-41-million-in-tribal-land-grant-institutions-102373704.html
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 13 16:09:40 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:09:40 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <ED202CC1-6771-4CFB-A79F-722686CEC9B2@d.umn.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.090940.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

K'yele Mary,

Great link!  Mahalo Manoa Hawaii Edu! 

The transcript is included for the audio in some of them (i.e., Leanne 
Hinton's http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/5165/9/5165script.pdf).
  You can reach the audio and PDF from each participant's landing 
page (http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5165).   

The link to all presentations is 
here: http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961/browse?type=dateissued&sort_by=2&order=ASC&rpp=150&etal=0&submit_browse=Update


Tsu tsi wes,

Troy



________________________________
From: Mary Hermes <mhermes at D.UMN.EDU>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 7:20:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?

My all time favorite for applied and useful is still the Green Book of Language 
Revitalization, Hinton and Hale.


I also found the online papers from the first international conference on 
language documentation and conservation in Hawaii very good, more recent. I 
think these are free, in print, but I couldn't find that link.  I did find a 
link that has audio of all of these 
papers http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10125/5961
Maybe someone else knows the link for the written versions?


Gidoojibwem ina? 
Ge giin miigwech gagwejimiyan!
Waabishkimiigwan


--------------------------------------------
Mary Hermes, PhD
Associate Professor of Education
Eni-gikendaasoyang:  Center for Indigenous Language and Culture Revitalization
University of Minnesota Duluth
715-462-4230



On Sep 13, 2010, at 7:29 AM, s.t. bischoff wrote:


The "Teaching Indigenous Languages" website at NAU is very useful as well...it 
has an incredible amount of information and links covering a range of 
issues...here is the link
>
>http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/TIL.html
>
>Shannon
>
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Susan 
>Penfield <susan.penfield at gmail.com> wrote:
>Sorry for the typo....-- Jon Reyhner (not Teyhner)...
> 
>S.
>
>On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hello ILAT, aanii kina wiiya,
>
>I have a question that I would be grateful for your input on:  As a student & 
>young researcher in the area of Indigenous language education, I want to know 
>where information that might be useful to educators and advocates can best be 
>shared/ received.  I am thinking mainly of written forms, but not exclusively... 
> Any input is welcome!
>
>What kinds of resources a/o publications do you and your colleagues look at to 
>learn about what's going on in the world of language reclamation, or to get 
>ideas for Indigenous language teaching/ learning/ advocacy strategies?
>
>Are there open-source (free) journals or resources that are being used?
>
>I know of quite a few journals that are respected academically, but I'm 
>wondering if they are useful a/o accessed by teachers and practitioners? (for 
>example American Indian Quarterly, Bilingual Research Journal, Language 
>and Education, Language Policy, etc.) 
>
>Chii migwech, thank you for your input!
>
>Haley De Korne
>
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>**********************************************************************************************
>
>Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
>(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
>E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
>Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)
>
>
>Department of English (Primary)
>Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture, 
>Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT), 
>American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
>The Southwest Center
>University of Arizona,
>Tucson, Arizona 85721
>
>
>
>
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From klokeid at UVIC.CA  Mon Sep 13 22:24:15 2010
From: klokeid at UVIC.CA (Terry J. Klokeid)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:24:15 -0700
Subject: Free/ open source Indigenous language publications?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimbvKdYKg1dNArCLqyMU9kdoP_0hCbfyyzCL9N1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.152415.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Here is a useful version of Jon Reyhner's writing on the topic at hand, as well as other articles, kindly shared with me by Prof. Reyhner:

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jar/NNL/

I am currently writing up something that could be viewed as an adaptation of the Natural Approach of Stephen D. Krashen and Tracy D. Terrell, which has been mentioned, though my project owes just as much to my own experience raising my children as bilinguals.  It is slated for publication in the rather inaccessible Uyaqhmis newsletter, and hopefully somewhere more accessible as well.

It focusses on just four guiding principles, that can be stated from the administrative and teaching point of view, as well as from the learner's point of view:

The teacher must:
1. Create a positive and supportive setting
2. Provide lots of [what I call] language samples [=Krashen and Terrell's Input] 
3. Foster and respect the learner's motivation 
4. Provide opportunities for the learners to express their own ideas, wants, and needs

You can find a brief blurb at
www.fphlcc.ca/downloads/summer-newsletter-09.pdf


My plan is to write this up from both teacher and learner point of view, starting with the latter, for the Uyaqhmis newsletter.

Back issues of the Uyaqhmis have articles on the back page by myself and some colleagues, Henry Kammler and Ron Hamilton, focussing on the Nuu-chah-nulth language.  Each article is more or less self-contained and intended to spark interest and encourage learners.

http://huuayaht.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=16&id=49&Itemid=129


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:11:21 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:11:21 -0700
Subject: Gathang dictionary hoped to lead a revival of the language (fwd
 link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221121.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Gathang dictionary hoped to lead a revival of the language

TONI BELL
14 Sep, 2010 12:00 AM
Australia

IN the 1960s, when a young Swedish linguist, Nils Holmer, was researching
Australian Aboriginal languages he was lucky enough to meet Biripi elder
Eddie Lobban, the last known fully fluent speaker of Taree's local native
tongue.

Quite a few other Biripi people were, and still are, conversant in single
words and phrases but the language was largely unspoken by the time the
academic and the elder sat down to record it.

Today in Purfleet, a very special event is taking place with the launch of a
dictionary of the Gathang language, which comprises the dialects of a large
group of Aboriginal people from Port Stephens to Port Macquarie, including
Biripi and Worimi.

Access full article below:
http://www.manningrivertimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/gathang-dictionary-hoped-to-lead-a-revival-of-the-language/1940821.aspx
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:13:23 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:13:23 -0700
Subject: Alaska Native Language Center linguist helps document dialects
 (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221323.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Alaska Native Language Center linguist helps document dialects

by Christopher Eshleman/ceshleman at newsminer.com
USA

FAIRBANKS ? Village elders have worked with researchers for years to
document the slate of native languages found across the state.

Many of those languages, including Lower Tanana, are extremely endangered.
Only a handful of native speakers of Lower Tanana, often referred to as
Tanana, are still alive. Different dialects of the language, one of 11 in
the Alaska Athabascan family, were originally spoken across the Chena River
drainage, from Minto and Nenana east toward Salcha, the Goodpaster River and
Big Delta.

Native speakers ? who grew up with Lower Tanana as their first language ?
can only be found in Minto. Siri Tuttle, a linguist at the Alaska Native
Language Center and the University of Alaska Fairbanks? linguistics program,
recently wrapped up a 15-month documentation and research project in the
village of about 250 people. She worked with elders to translate and
document song lyrics, some on file at the language center and some recorded
during the project.


Read more: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Alaska Native Language Center
linguist helps document dialects
http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/9503554/article-Alaska-Native-Language-Center-linguist-helps-document-dialects?instance=home_news_window_left_top_4
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 15 05:18:52 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:18:52 -0700
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.221852.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

14 September 2010
UK

Are dying languages worth saving?

How people are trying to preserve endangered languages

Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?

"Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.

About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
- a sad prospect for some.

Access full article below:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
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From huangc20 at UFL.EDU  Wed Sep 15 13:59:40 2010
From: huangc20 at UFL.EDU (Chun Jimmy Huang)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:59:40 -0400
Subject: Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.095940.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

My question to Hieber and Mufuwene: Why are economic, or "market 
forces" considered "natural," while "state-driven ones" not? Could 
this distinction be made had Hieber and Mufuwene not taken the 
current economic system for granted, as an universal and ahistoric 
human condition?

And my response: sure the "language rights advocates" (a label 
used by Mufuwene to lump what seems to me several different groups 
of linguists together), or those of us who advocate linguistic 
diversity, are indeed enacting social change, or engendering "an 
alternative socio-economic world order" that can be recommended to 
those who suffer linguistic, and thus cultural, loss. This new 
social order, I hope, is (neo-)anarchy, which I evaluate 
positively.

Jimmy


On Thu Sep 09 16:47:03 EDT 2010, Phillip E Cash Cash 
<cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> wrote:

> Language and the Socialist-Calculation Problem
> 
> Mises Daily: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 by Danny Hieber
> 
> We have room for but one language in this country, and that is 
> the
> English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns 
> our
> people out as Americans, of    American nationality, and not as
> dwellers in a polyglot boarding house.
> 
>     ??? Theodore Roosevelt[1]
> 
> There are 6,909 languages alive in the world today. Seventy-four 
> are
> indigenous to California alone ??? languages like Hupa, Kawaiisu, 
> and
> Shoshone ??? while Papua New Guinea has over 800, with a median 
> of just
> 1,200 speakers per language.
> 
> As astonishing as these figures seem, they obscure a stark 
> reality:
> potentially half of these languages are set to vanish in the next
> century. Don't believe me? Consider that in North America, out of 
> 296
> known languages at the time of European contact, only 33 are 
> being
> actively passed down to the next generation. The rest will become
> extinct upon the death of their last speakers (if they haven't
> already), probably sometime this century.[2]
> 
> Access full article below:
> http://mises.org/daily/4687
> 
> 



Dr. Chun (Jimmy) Huang
Post-doc, National University of Kaohsiung
Linguistic consultant, Tainan Pingpu Siraya Culture Association


From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 16:39:02 2010
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:39:02 -0700
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.093902.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

All:

For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.

In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.

Thanks for any info provided on this topic.

Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language Committee
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 16:59:25 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:59:25 -0700
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ZH+uCzEJuVyF=h-SocVKNKPJ0GbCNkznirVoF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.095925.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I disagree with Kenann Malik.  My question is why should some language
get preference over others, such as English or French in Canada over
any other indigenous language, especially in the land where it is
spoken. There is a specific colonial strategy in place to displace
original inhabitants, so that the colonial power can reap economic
benefits.   This is one reason why languages die, because  governments
chooses to elevate some language above what the original language of
that land is.

Do the governments not reap benefits from the land where those
languages are spoken? Whether it is to use that land as a basis for
getting loans from the World Bank or extracting minerals from the
land, governments do.  Governments should support the continued
existence of languages where economic benefit is derived from the land
where languages are spoken.  Languages are specific to a time and
place and very much tied to economics.

Just up the road at the largest Salmon Run in the world.  The
Department of Fisheries and Oceans has paid to ensure that all signage
and posters are in both French and English, but why not Secwepemc.  I
can speak and read both English and French, but what I want is
Secwepemctsin.  This is the language of this land.

It's not irrational to say we should support all languages.  To me
it's irrational that we should be promoting any one language above
another.

Yeri Tsucws.


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 14 September 2010
> UK
>
> Are dying languages worth saving?
>
> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>
> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?
>
> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>
> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
> - a sad prospect for some.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>


From susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM  Wed Sep 15 17:01:03 2010
From: susan.penfield at GMAIL.COM (Susan Penfield)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:01:03 -0400
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=s5ne2kwTcDb-zOam0S=skmMUz8XbHGfwsSh=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.130103.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Bernadette,

I suspect you will get a range of answers to your query for help with this
issue. One place that might be helpful and willing to help you track down
the research you need to support your ideas about integration into the
schools is the National Heritage Language Resource Center -- To be sure,
most of their work is not focused on indigenous languages, but some is and
they do have a lot of facts about language education (and the impact on
children who are learners of heritage languages generally) availale.  I
suggest you contact them directly with your question.
http://www.nhlrc.ucla.edu/

Good luck with this...it is a tough hill to climb, but well worth it for the
kids involved!

Best,
Susan
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Bernadette Santamaria <
bernisantamaria at gmail.com> wrote:

> All:
>
> For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
> board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
> the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
> re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
> language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
> supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
> local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
> recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
> local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
>
> In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
> courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
> system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
> administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
> children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
> children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
> you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
> benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
> curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
>
> Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> WM Apache Language Committee
>



-- 
**********************************************************************************************
*Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.
**(Currently on leave to the National Science Foundation.
E-mail: spenfiel at nsf.gov
Phone at NSF: 703-292-4535)*


Department of English (Primary)
Faculty affiliate in Linguistics, Language, Reading and Culture,
Second Language Acquisition and Teaching (SLAT),
American Indian Language Development Institute (AILDI)
The Southwest Center
University of Arizona,
Tucson, Arizona 85721
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From Rrlapier at AOL.COM  Wed Sep 15 20:57:50 2010
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM (Rrlapier at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:57:50 EDT
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.165750.EDT.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save  
Your Language.
 
_http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
_ 
(http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf) 
 
Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on. 
 
Rosalyn LaPier

Piegan Institute
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/15/2010 10:39:27 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM writes:

All:
 
For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local  
school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in  addition 
to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older  generations 
to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger  generation 
our language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff  changes 
(school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in  these efforts 
by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators  (gathered 
from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to  not 
exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
 
In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these  
courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school  
system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school  
administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children  in local 
schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in  them.  We 
request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can  provide us that 
emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from  inclusion of 
their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae,  need 
examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
 
Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
 
Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language  Committee

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From dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 16 00:12:59 2010
From: dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM (D. Gloumbia)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:12:59 -0400
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ZH+uCzEJuVyF=h-SocVKNKPJ0GbCNkznirVoF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.201259.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

I respect Mufwene very much as a linguist, and I know people who know him
well and have worked with him even on issues involving endangered languages,
where he has been more helpful than one might guess, as well as encouraging
the study of diverse languages and of young scholars working on these
topics. He has read a lot (though not very much cultural theory, i think)
and knows a lot. But I nevertheless find his writing on the topic
offensively accepting of an economic (and bio-evolutionary, which makes it
too much like US neocon philosophy) metaphor that he knows better than to
apply to a non-economic (indeed, *sui generis*) phenomenon like language.
The tone of his writings on the topic is not progressive, and not
sympathetic to any of the parties concerned about language loss. Finally,
his work, like too much of the good work on endangerment, fails to target
the #1 issue which I think needs to be addressed: what Foucault would call
the "positive power" created by major langauges that makes it look like they
are "more than" or "more modern than" others, *and that* it is therefore
"more modern" to lose the family language and take up English (or Mandarin,
or Hindi, or Spanish, or Russian, or...) relatively exclusively. There are
too many economic ("competition") and bad pseudo-biology (again,
"competition") metaphors in the writing on this subject. I think we need to
ask more and more how to *undo *this "positive power" of major languages, in
addition to talking about saving languages.

I also really despair, I'll admit, when thoughtful academics (like Mufwene,
& maybe even the blogger) think a good use of their energies is to
discourage people from viewing the loss of languages as a critical issue for
our world today. it is more, not less, critical than outsiders think; it
does no good to give them any reason at all to dismiss the topic. In this
sense, while I in no way protest Mufwene's *right* to do such work, I am
forced to question its point and its motivation.

David

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:

> 14 September 2010
> UK
>
> Are dying languages worth saving?
>
> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>
> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to discuss saving
> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive dialects
> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom de Castella?
>
> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>
> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But the
> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 and 1,000 of
> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the world loses
> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages over a decade
> - a sad prospect for some.
>
> Access full article below:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>



-- 
David Golumbia
dgolumbia at gmail.com
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From huangc20 at UFL.EDU  Thu Sep 16 01:09:13 2010
From: huangc20 at UFL.EDU (Chun Jimmy Huang)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:09:13 -0400
Subject: Are dying languages worth saving? (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.210913.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Exactly, David, not only are the economic and bio-evolutionary 
metaphors inappropriate for explaining language situations, but 
combining them together, as Mufuwene does, is too convenient and 
Darwinistic.

Plus, many biologists today, like my wife, do not speak of 
evolution in terms of competition (or competition-driven 
adaptation) anymore...

Jimmy

On Wed Sep 15 20:12:59 EDT 2010, "D. Gloumbia" 
<dgloumbia at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I respect Mufwene very much as a linguist, and I know people who 
> know him
> well and have worked with him even on issues involving endangered 
> languages,
> where he has been more helpful than one might guess, as well as 
> encouraging
> the study of diverse languages and of young scholars working on 
> these
> topics. He has read a lot (though not very much cultural theory, 
> i think)
> and knows a lot. But I nevertheless find his writing on the topic
> offensively accepting of an economic (and bio-evolutionary, which 
> makes it
> too much like US neocon philosophy) metaphor that he knows better 
> than to
> apply to a non-economic (indeed, *sui generis*) phenomenon like 
> language.
> The tone of his writings on the topic is not progressive, and not
> sympathetic to any of the parties concerned about language loss. 
> Finally,
> his work, like too much of the good work on endangerment, fails 
> to target
> the #1 issue which I think needs to be addressed: what Foucault 
> would call
> the "positive power" created by major langauges that makes it 
> look like they
> are "more than" or "more modern than" others, *and that* it is 
> therefore
> "more modern" to lose the family language and take up English (or 
> Mandarin,
> or Hindi, or Spanish, or Russian, or...) relatively exclusively. 
> There are
> too many economic ("competition") and bad pseudo-biology (again,
> "competition") metaphors in the writing on this subject. I think 
> we need to
> ask more and more how to *undo *this "positive power" of major 
> languages, in
> addition to talking about saving languages.
> 
> I also really despair, I'll admit, when thoughtful academics 
> (like Mufwene,
> & maybe even the blogger) think a good use of their energies is 
> to
> discourage people from viewing the loss of languages as a 
> critical issue for
> our world today. it is more, not less, critical than outsiders 
> think; it
> does no good to give them any reason at all to dismiss the topic. 
> In this
> sense, while I in no way protest Mufwene's *right* to do such 
> work, I am
> forced to question its point and its motivation.
> 
> David
> 
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash <
> cashcash at email.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 
>> 14 September 2010
>> UK
>> 
>> Are dying languages worth saving?
>> 
>> How people are trying to preserve endangered languages
>> 
>> Language experts are gathering at a university in the UK to 
>> discuss saving
>> the world's endangered languages. But is it worth keeping alive 
>> dialects
>> that are sometimes only spoken by a handful of people, asks Tom 
>> de Castella?
>> 
>> "Language is the dress of thought," Samuel Johnson once said.
>> 
>> About 6,000 different languages are spoken around the world. But 
>> the
>> Foundation for Endangered Languages estimates that between 500 
>> and 1,000 of
>> those are spoken by only a handful of people. And every year the 
>> world loses
>> around 25 mother tongues. That equates to losing 250 languages 
>> over a decade
>> - a sad prospect for some.
>> 
>> Access full article below:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11304255
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- David Golumbia
> dgolumbia at gmail.com
> 



Dr. Chun (Jimmy) Huang
Post-doc, National University of Kaohsiung
Linguistic consultant, Tainan Pingpu Siraya Culture Association


From gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 16 13:48:09 2010
From: gajidas at HOTMAIL.COM (adrian john)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:48:09 -0400
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <188211.441530b9.39c28d4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.094809.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>


Yeah, I have that book, it is real good and is a good working model, in my mind.

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:57:50 -0400
From: Rrlapier at AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Request
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU








Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save 
Your Language.
 
http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
 
Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on. 
 
Rosalyn LaPier
Piegan Institute
 
 

In a message dated 9/15/2010 10:39:27 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM writes:

  All:
   
  For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local 
  school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in 
  addition to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older 
  generations to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger 
  generation our language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff 
  changes (school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in 
  these efforts by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators 
  (gathered from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to 
  not exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
   
  In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these 
  courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school 
  system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school 
  administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children 
  in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in 
  them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can 
  provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from 
  inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae, 
  need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
   
  Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
   
  Bernadette A. SantaMaria
  WM Apache Language 
Committee 		 	   		  
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From daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU  Fri Sep 17 01:17:43 2010
From: daryn at ACRA.ORG.AU (Daryn McKenny)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:17:43 +1000
Subject: Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages and Technology Forum -
 Calling for presenters, exhibitors, sponsors.
In-Reply-To: <36793AA72949274BAC86C07F36D394677F0E01@acraserv2>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.111743.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Please circulate throughout your Networks - Please note that this Forum is in Australia and we welcome International participation.

Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages and Technology Forum

Hi Everyone,

We would like to invite you to participate in the "Puliima 2011 National Indigenous Languages Technology Forum" to be held at the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane from Wednesday the 11th of May through till Friday the 13th May 2011.
The conference will comprise of the following:
Tuesday 10th May

6pm evening pre-conference get together (for those that arrive early)

Wednesday 11th May

Puliima Day 1

Thursday 12th May

Puliima Day 2

Friday 13th May

Optional Events:


Indigenous Linguists Forum


Focus Workshops

The aim of the Puliima Forum is to bring together people from all over Australia and overseas who are involved in Indigenous language projects and communities to share skills and information on the use of a wide range of technology to support their work. The event showcases a variety of production tools, models and programs that support content production in a range of mediums (sound, multi-media, image and print) and enables community users to experience them first hand. It incorporates knowledge of linguistics, educational programs and teaching methodologies as well as legal, moral and cultural aspects of community language project development.
The 2011 Puliima Forum will run over three days, and will include as an Australian first, a separate forum for Indigenous linguists, of which we are pleased to say there is a growing number. We aim to allow the participants to share their experiences and draft proposals to support employment initiatives, at the same time establishing a supportive network for ongoing contact.
This will be the third Puliima Forum, with the conference having been held in Newcastle in 2007 then Melbourne in 2009 with over 200 people expected to attend the 2011 Forum.
We are thrilled to be hosting Puliima 2011 once again and we encourage you to participate to explore and share the many ways in which language is either being revitalised or preserved in your area.
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From margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM  Fri Sep 17 07:55:23 2010
From: margaret.florey at GMAIL.COM (Margaret Florey)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:55:23 +1000
Subject: materials on language revitalization
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.175523.1000.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Dear ILATers,

On the RNLD web site, we have a link <http://www.rnld.org/node/83> to some
publications on endangered languages, language documentation and language
conservation. At the top of the page, there are links to journals and series
which can be freely downloaded. Further down the page amongst the
references, some link to other pages where articles can be downloaded. Jon
Reyhner's wonderful group of publications are linked there too.

best wishes,
Margaret

-- 
Margaret Florey
Director, Resource Network for Linguistic Diversity <www.rnld.org>

Email: Margaret.Florey at gmail.com
Ph: +61 (0)4 3186-3727 (mob.)
skype: margaret_florey
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Sat Sep 18 02:46:39 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:46:39 -0700
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <188211.441530b9.39c28d4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.194639.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Kukstsemc Rosalyn.

Xwexwisten. (I like)

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:57 PM,  <Rrlapier at aol.com> wrote:
> Please read the following booklet and look at Rule #1 -- Never Beg to Save
> Your Language.
>
> http://www.pieganinstitute.org/encouragementguidanceinsightslessons3-00.pdf
>
> Ask people to help you and they do not want to help you -- move on.
>
> Rosalyn LaPier
> Piegan Institute
>


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 21 18:52:55 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:52:55 -0700
Subject: Documenting a dying dialect: mavericks learn to study and record
 the native language of the Triqui (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.115255.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Documenting a dying dialect: mavericks learn to study and record the native
language of the Triqui

Written by Allen Baldwin, The Shorthorn staff
MONDAY, 20 SEPTEMBER 2010 08:41 PM
USA

In a small village in southern Mexico, women clad in huipiles, colorful
ponchos with stripes, converse with each other in Triqui, their native
language. A language that may soon be gone.

Raymond Elliott, modern language department chair, linguistics professor
Jerold Edmondson and a small group of students travelled to a remote
indigenous village in the state of Oaxaca, Mexico, for the past two summers.

The group went to document and study the language of Chicahuaxtlan Triqui.

Access full article below:
http://www.theshorthorn.com/content/view/20219/58/
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From mikinakn at SHAW.CA  Wed Sep 22 17:08:41 2010
From: mikinakn at SHAW.CA (Rolland Nadjiwon)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:08:41 -0400
Subject: Just delete this...who cares!!!!
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.130841.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

http://www.survivalinternational.org/films/havecourage?utm_source=E-news+%28English%29&utm_campaign=4c01f5db1c-E_news_September_20109_22_2010&utm_medium=email

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wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon
______________________________________________

"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is
the mind of the oppressed."
______________________________________________


From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 22 19:50:08 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:50:08 -0700
Subject: Niue And Cook Island M=?UTF-8?Q?=C4=81oriLanguages_?= Threatened
 (fw dlink)
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.125008.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Niue And Cook Island M?ori Languages Threatened

Voxy News Engine
Wednesday, 22 September, 2010 - 13:09
NZ

Niue and Cook Island M?ori languages will disappear from New Zealand within
a generation unless urgent action is taken say researchers from The
University of Auckland.

The research by Faculty of Education Senior Lecturer John McCaffery and
Postgraduate research student Judy Taligalu McFall-McCaffery was released
today.

"Our research indicates that Pacific Island languages in New Zealand show
significant signs of language shift and loss, with several languages,
especially Cook Island M?ori and Niue language unlikely to survive unless we
do something now," says Mr McCaffery.

Access full article below:
http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/niue-and-cook-island-m?ori-languages-threatened/5/64473<http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/niue-and-cook-island-m%C4%81ori-languages-threatened/5/64473>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Wed Sep 22 20:02:27 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:02:27 -0700
Subject: Nigerian academics seek to elevate humble Pidgin (fwd link)
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.130227.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Nigerian academics seek to elevate humble Pidgin

By Yinka Ibukun
LAGOS | Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:59pm BST
UK

(Reuters Life!) - It may share many of its words and basic grammar with
English, but a perplexed look descends across the face of most newcomers to
Nigeria the first time they are addressed in Pidgin.

"How you dey?" comes the question, or "How body?" (both meaning "how are
you?")

"I dey fine" is the correct response, or, if you're in a less upbeat mood,
"body dey inside cloth", meaning "I'm coping/making do with the situation,"
or literally "I'm still wearing clothes."

Access full article below:
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From hal1403 at YAHOO.COM  Thu Sep 23 02:07:15 2010
From: hal1403 at YAHOO.COM (Haley De Korne)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:07:15 -0700
Subject: Request
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.190715.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Bernadette,
I'm attaching a few articles that describe the importance & benefits of Native language education.

Also, I don't know if it will be useful, but there are several states that have laws that argue that teaching native languages is crucial.? The strongest one is probably Washington.? 

Here's a link to their policy statement:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=28A.410.045

Here's the part of the text that I'm thinking about.? They cite their own reasons, and the national law promoting Native language education (Native American Languages Act):

Findings -- 2007 c 319:  "The legislature finds that:

????
 (1) Teaching first peoples' languages, cultures, and oral tribal 
traditions is a critical factor in fostering successful educational 
experiences and promoting cultural sensitivity for all students.  
Experience shows that such teaching dramatically raises student 
achievement and that the effect is particularly strong for Native 
American students;

???? (2) Native American students have the 
highest high school dropout rate among all groups of students.  Less 
than one-fourth of Native American students in the class of 2008 are on 
track to graduate based on the results of the Washington assessment of 
student learning.  Positive and supportive educational experiences are 
critical for the success of Native American students;

???? (3) 
The sole expertise of sovereign tribal governments whose traditional 
lands and territories lie within the borders of the state of Washington 
in the transmission of their indigenous languages, heritage, cultural 
knowledge, histories, customs, and traditions should be honored;

????
 (4) Government-to-government collaboration between the state and the 
sovereign tribal governments whose traditional lands and territories lie
 within the borders of the state of Washington serves to implement the 
spirit of the 1989 centennial accord and other similar 
government-to-government agreements, including the 2004 accord between 
the federally recognized Indian tribes with treaty reserved rights in 
the state of Washington;

???? (5) Establishing a first peoples' 
language, culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher certification 
program both achieves educational objectives and models effective 
government-to-government relationships;

???? (6) Establishing a 
first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions 
certification program implements the following policy objectives of the 
federal Native American languages act of 1990 (P.L. 101-477) in a 
tangible way:

???? (a) To preserve, protect, and promote the 
rights and freedom of Native Americans to use, practice, and develop 
Native American languages;

???? (b) To allow exceptions to 
teacher certification requirements for federal programs and programs 
funded in whole or in part by the federal government, for instruction in
 Native American languages when such teacher certification requirements 
hinder the employment of qualified teachers who teach in Native American
 languages, and to encourage state and territorial governments to make 
similar exceptions;

???? (c) To encourage and support the use of 
Native American languages as a medium of instruction in order to 
encourage and support Native American language survival, educational 
opportunity, increased student success and performance, increased 
student awareness and knowledge of their culture and history, and 
increased student and community pride;

???? (d) To encourage 
state and local education programs to work with Native American parents,
 educators, Indian tribes, and other Native American governing bodies in
 the implementation of programs to put this policy into effect; and

????
 (e) To encourage all institutions of elementary, secondary, and higher 
education, where appropriate, to include Native American languages in 
the curriculum in the same manner as foreign languages and to grant 
proficiency in Native American languages the same full academic credit 
as proficiency in foreign languages;

???? (7) Establishing a 
first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions 
certification program is consistent with the intent of presidential 
executive order number 13336 from 2004, entitled "American Indian and 
Alaska native education," to assist students in meeting the challenging 
student academic standards of the no child left behind act of 2001 (P.L.
 107-110) in a manner that is consistent with tribal traditions, 
languages, and cultures."  [2007 c 319 ? 1.]?????Short title -- 2007 c 319:
  "This act may be known and cited as the "First peoples' language, 
culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher certification act:  Honoring
 our ancestors.""  [2007 c 319 ? 4.]
I hope some of this is helpful.? Best wishes to you!!

Haley

"Language is not merely a body of vocabulary or a set of grammatical rules.  It is a flash of the human spirit, the means by which the soul of each particular culture reaches into the material world.  Every language is an old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an entire ecosystem of spiritual possibilities."

Wade Davis

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

From: Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: [ILAT] Request
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 12:39 PM

All:
?
For a?community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our language.? One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.

?
In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native children in them.? We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.

?
Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
?
Bernadette A. SantaMaria
WM Apache Language Committee



      
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From bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM  Thu Sep 23 19:29:08 2010
From: bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM (Bernadette Santamaria)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:29:08 -0700
Subject: Request
In-Reply-To: <243809.14532.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.122908.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Ashood, ahiye'e (thank you) to Haley & those who provided info in response
to my request for info---it has been very helpful.

Bernadette SantaMaria

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Haley De Korne <hal1403 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>   Hi Bernadette,
> I'm attaching a few articles that describe the importance & benefits of
> Native language education.
>
> Also, I don't know if it will be useful, but there are several states that
> have laws that argue that teaching native languages is crucial.  The
> strongest one is probably Washington.
>
> Here's a link to their policy statement:
> http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=28A.410.045
>
> Here's the part of the text that I'm thinking about.  They cite their own
> reasons, and the national law promoting Native language education (Native
> American Languages Act):
>
> *Findings -- 2007 c 319:* "The legislature finds that:
>
>      (1) Teaching first peoples' languages, cultures, and oral tribal
> traditions is a critical factor in fostering successful educational
> experiences and promoting cultural sensitivity for all students. Experience
> shows that such teaching dramatically raises student achievement and that
> the effect is particularly strong for Native American students;
>
>      (2) Native American students have the highest high school dropout rate
> among all groups of students. Less than one-fourth of Native American
> students in the class of 2008 are on track to graduate based on the results
> of the Washington assessment of student learning. Positive and supportive
> educational experiences are critical for the success of Native American
> students;
>
>      (3) The sole expertise of sovereign tribal governments whose
> traditional lands and territories lie within the borders of the state of
> Washington in the transmission of their indigenous languages, heritage,
> cultural knowledge, histories, customs, and traditions should be honored;
>
>      (4) Government-to-government collaboration between the state and the
> sovereign tribal governments whose traditional lands and territories lie
> within the borders of the state of Washington serves to implement the spirit
> of the 1989 centennial accord and other similar government-to-government
> agreements, including the 2004 accord between the federally recognized
> Indian tribes with treaty reserved rights in the state of Washington;
>
>      (5) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions teacher certification program both achieves educational
> objectives and models effective government-to-government relationships;
>
>      (6) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions certification program implements the following policy objectives
> of the federal Native American languages act of 1990 (P.L. 101-477) in a
> tangible way:
>
>      (a) To preserve, protect, and promote the rights and freedom of Native
> Americans to use, practice, and develop Native American languages;
>
>      (b) To allow exceptions to teacher certification requirements for
> federal programs and programs funded in whole or in part by the federal
> government, for instruction in Native American languages when such teacher
> certification requirements hinder the employment of qualified teachers who
> teach in Native American languages, and to encourage state and territorial
> governments to make similar exceptions;
>
>      (c) To encourage and support the use of Native American languages as a
> medium of instruction in order to encourage and support Native American
> language survival, educational opportunity, increased student success and
> performance, increased student awareness and knowledge of their culture and
> history, and increased student and community pride;
>
>      (d) To encourage state and local education programs to work with
> Native American parents, educators, Indian tribes, and other Native American
> governing bodies in the implementation of programs to put this policy into
> effect; and
>
>      (e) To encourage all institutions of elementary, secondary, and higher
> education, where appropriate, to include Native American languages in the
> curriculum in the same manner as foreign languages and to grant proficiency
> in Native American languages the same full academic credit as proficiency in
> foreign languages;
>
>      (7) Establishing a first peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal
> traditions certification program is consistent with the intent of
> presidential executive order number 13336 from 2004, entitled "American
> Indian and Alaska native education," to assist students in meeting the
> challenging student academic standards of the no child left behind act of
> 2001 (P.L. 107-110) in a manner that is consistent with tribal traditions,
> languages, and cultures." [2007 c 319 ? 1.]
>
>      *Short title -- 2007 c 319:* "This act may be known and cited as the
> "First peoples' language, culture, and oral tribal traditions teacher
> certification act: Honoring our ancestors."" [2007 c 319 ? 4.]
>
> I hope some of this is helpful.  Best wishes to you!!
>
> Haley
>
> "Language is not merely a body of vocabulary or a set of grammatical rules.
> It is a flash of the human spirit, the means by which the soul of each
> particular culture reaches into the material world. Every language is an
> old-growth forest of the mind, a watershed of thought, an entire ecosystem
> of spiritual possibilities."
> Wade Davis
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/15/10, Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>*wrote:
>
>
> From: Bernadette Santamaria <bernisantamaria at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: [ILAT] Request
>
> To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 12:39 PM
>
>
>  All:
>
> For a community-level language committee, a goal is to get the local school
> board to support Apache language teaching in the schools here in addition to
> the educational outreach we are attempting to get the older generations to
> re-learn and make decisions to once again teach the younger generation our
> language.  One issue is that due to administrative staff changes (school
> supt, principals, etc), there has not been continuation in these efforts by
> local language teachers at schools and the new administrators (gathered from
> recent presentations they did to the Tribal Council) seem to not exclude
> local language/culture teaching from the school curriculae.
>
> In order to present this committee's recommendations to include these
> courses and to strengthen support of local language teachers in the school
> system, it was deemed that we need to convince these newer school
> administrators of the importance of providing this teachings for our
> children in local schools who comprise over 90% enrollment of native
> children in them.  We request names of books, articles, authors, etc. that
> you can provide us that emphasize the reasons why and how native children
> benefit from inclusion of their native language/cultural knowledge in school
> curriculae, need examples of tribes/schools that are successful, etc.
>
> Thanks for any info provided on this topic.
>
> Bernadette A. SantaMaria
> WM Apache Language Committee
>
>
>
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Thu Sep 23 20:32:26 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:32:26 -0700
Subject: Old anthem, native voice (fwd link)
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.133226.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Old anthem, native voice
Vasquez opens Round-Up by singing anthem in native Umatilla tongue

Posted: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:42 am | Updated: 3:49 pm, Fri Sep
17, 2010.

By OWEN?R.?SMITH East?Oregonian |
USA

As the Centennial Round-Up got under way, thousands of rodeo fans heard the
familiar strains of the national anthem, but listening closer they probably
noticed something just a bit different: Carina Vasquez was singing in the
Umatilla language.

Vasquez?s version of ?The Star-Spangled?Banner? was the first time in
Round-Up history the national anthem has been sung in a Native American
language, and she called it an empowering experience.

?It was my choice (to sing in Umatilla),? said Vasquez, 19. ?It?s my
language. Not a lot of people my age really get to learn those things. It
meant a lot to me making everyone proud. Our language is very important.?

Access full article below:
http://www.eastoregonian.com/sports/rodeo_round_up/article_eef85fd4-c1b9-11df-8719-001cc4c002e0.html?ref=nf

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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Fri Sep 24 17:15:06 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:15:06 -0700
Subject: Government of Canada Supports the Preservation and Revitalization
 of the Atikamekw and Innu Languages (fwd link)
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.101506.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Sep 24, 2010 10:30 ET
CA

Government of Canada Supports the Preservation and Revitalization of the
Atikamekw and Innu Languages

WENDAKE, QUEBEC--(Marketwire - Sept. 24, 2010) - On behalf of the Honourable
James Moore, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages, the
Honourable Jos?e Verner, Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, President of
the Queen's Privy Council for Canada, Minister for La Francophonie, and
Minister responsible for the Quebec region, today announced funding for the
Soci?t? de communication Atikamekw-Montagnais (SOCAM). This funding will
allow the organization to broadcast 20 hours of radio programming in the
Innu language and 27.5 hours of programming in the Atikamekw language each
week.

Access full article below:
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Government-Canada-Supports-Preservation-Revitalization-Atikamekw-Innu-Languages-1324661.htm
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Fri Sep 24 19:51:05 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:51:05 -0700
Subject: Lost language unearthed in a letter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVf+C3jM=eJfJaTbKPP3qBvf14JLy3i5CGWkic@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.125105.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

(Reuters) - Archaeologists say scrawl on the back of a letter recovered from a 
17th century dig site reveals a previously unknown language spoken by indigenous 
peoples in northern Peru.
A team of international archaeologists found the letter under a pile of adobe 
bricks in a collapsed church complex near Trujillo, 347 miles north of Lima. The 
complex had been inhabited by Dominican friars for two centuries.
"Our investigations determined that this piece of paper records a number system 
in a language that has been lost for hundreds of years," Jeffrey Quilter, an 
archaeologist at Harvard's Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology, told 
Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68M40S20100923
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From enviro.design at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 26 01:33:58 2010
From: enviro.design at YAHOO.COM (Sandra Gaskell)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:33:58 -0700
Subject: learning arabic characters with the left hemisphere
In-Reply-To: <943630.4498.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.183358.0700.ENVIRO.DESIGM@YAHOO.COM>

Here's an interesting article - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11181457
?
?
Sandra Gaskell, RPA, CCC SLP
Speech-Language Pathologist
Registered Professional Archaeologist
MS, MA Anthropology-Geography, CSUS-CSUF
MS-SLP, Northern Arizona University
SLP.D, NSU Candidate



arcresours at gmail.com 
enviro.design at yahoo.com
ascspeech at yahoo.com 






________________________________
From: Troy Anderson <milluk at YAHOO.COM>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 12:51:05 PM
Subject: [ILAT] Lost language unearthed in a letter


(Reuters) - Archaeologists say scrawl on the back of a letter recovered from a 
17th century dig site reveals a previously unknown language spoken by indigenous 
peoples in northern Peru.
A team of international archaeologists found the letter under a pile of adobe 
bricks in a collapsed church complex near Trujillo, 347 miles north of Lima. The 
complex had been inhabited by Dominican friars for two centuries.
"Our investigations determined that this piece of paper records a number system 
in a language that has been lost for hundreds of years," Jeffrey Quilter, an 
archaeologist at Harvard's Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology, told 
Reuters.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68M40S20100923



      
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From mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU  Sun Sep 26 01:43:33 2010
From: mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU (monty hill)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:43:33 -0400
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.214333.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

chwe:n everyone!

i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis, entitled Yuw?t?:ri:
or *resonant* (it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora language, a branch of the
northern Iroquoian language family, currently located in western new york,
around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i discuss the specific role of
database technology in the Tuscarora language revitalization program and
compare it with technology in two other language communities (thanks much to
the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato University, New Zealand, and
Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of Oklahoma). in short, i hope
you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may find it helpful. i'd love to
answer any questions anyone may have!

nya:weh
monty hill
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From clairebowern at GMAIL.COM  Sun Sep 26 01:55:07 2010
From: clairebowern at GMAIL.COM (Claire Bowern)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:55:07 -0400
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=exHo0GkRqp6YuKU557+3j-QrUr3ZQbex89ac_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.215507.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Hi Monty,
sounds like a great thesis! Could you post the link? I'm sure a lot of
us on the list would like a copy.
Claire

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> chwe:n everyone!
> i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis, entitled?Yuw?t?:ri:
> or resonant?(it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora language, a branch of the
> northern?Iroquoian?language family, currently located in western new york,
> around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i discuss the specific role of
> database technology in the Tuscarora language revitalization program and
> compare it with technology in two other language communities (thanks much to
> the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato University, New Zealand, and
> Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of Oklahoma). in short, i hope
> you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may find it helpful. i'd love to
> answer any questions anyone may have!
> nya:weh
> monty hill

-- 

-----
Claire Bowern
Associate Professor
Department of Linguistics
Yale University
370 Temple St
New Haven, CT 06511
North American Dialects survey:
http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/


From mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU  Sun Sep 26 02:18:05 2010
From: mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU (monty hill)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:18:05 -0400
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.221805.0400.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

oops.

http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf

here it is!

monty.
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From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Sun Sep 26 18:04:23 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:04:23 -0700
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UOH4L8O12S+H4NM=mQFnJiiJ8hQyWYj+-m+D8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.26.SEP.2010.110423.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

K'yele (Thanks/Great work!) Monty!

I wonder if you could post the repository up on github?

Since 1986, I've been using (still!) Word Cruncher in DOS (!!) to do analysis of 
Miluk and in dire need of a replacement.  I'd be fine with doing postgres sql 
queries, if need be, but imagine there's still better stuff out there.  I 
suppose I should get some counsel on how to use FieldWorks/FLEX and migrate my 
stuff there... but happy to use anything better than my good ol' DOS program.

Also, enjoyed your exploration of Google Translate services.  Did you write some 
python to import Tuscarora into their .PFM needed format?  Wondered about doing 
that as well.  Why not ditch postgres and move it to Google AppEngine so we all 
could use it ;^)   Just a thought.

Well, I'm straying from the listserv theme a bit, so I'll stop here.

Tsu tsi wes,

Troy



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From: monty hill <mhill06 at SIMONS-ROCK.EDU>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 7:18:05 PM
Subject: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!

oops.

http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf

here it is!

monty.
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From neskiem at GMAIL.COM  Mon Sep 27 03:37:58 2010
From: neskiem at GMAIL.COM (Neskie Manuel)
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:37:58 -0700
Subject: neglected the link to the post!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UOH4L8O12S+H4NM=mQFnJiiJ8hQyWYj+-m+D8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.26.SEP.2010.203758.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

Weytk-p,

That's an interesting thesis.  Since you are already using python and
postgres, I think if you are considering putting the dictionary
online, you might want to look at using Django [1].  It does run on
Google App Engine, but you will lose the relational database aspect of
your code. I put designed a site called Secwepemctsnem [2], and I put
the code up github [3].

I think the most powerful thing about technology tools, is the ability
for people to make use of the online dictionary and use it as a
resource.  Right now I'm using it as one of the resources to translate
Facebook [4].

- Neskie

[1] - http://djangoproject.com
[2] - http://language.secwepemcradio.ath.cx/
[3] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemctsnem
[4] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemc-facebook

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> oops.
> http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf
> here it is!
> monty.


From milluk at YAHOO.COM  Mon Sep 27 19:08:04 2010
From: milluk at YAHOO.COM (Troy Anderson)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:08:04 -0700
Subject: Fw: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!
Message-ID: <MON.27.SEP.2010.120804.0700.MILLUK@YAHOO.COM>

Waga k'yele,

Great stuff!  Wouldn't it be great if we could all contribute to the same 
s/Source literally and spiritually... a good start in that direction Neskie!


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Neskie Manuel <neskiem at GMAIL.COM>
To: ILAT at LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Sun, September 26, 2010 8:37:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ILAT] neglected the link to the post!

Weytk-p,

That's an interesting thesis.  Since you are already using python and
postgres, I think if you are considering putting the dictionary
online, you might want to look at using Django [1].  It does run on
Google App Engine, but you will lose the relational database aspect of
your code. I put designed a site called Secwepemctsnem [2], and I put
the code up github [3].

I think the most powerful thing about technology tools, is the ability
for people to make use of the online dictionary and use it as a
resource.  Right now I'm using it as one of the resources to translate
Facebook [4].

- Neskie

[1] - http://djangoproject.com
[2] - http://language.secwepemcradio.ath.cx/
[3] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemctsnem
[4] - http://github.com/neskie/secwepemc-facebook

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:
> oops.
> http://montyhill.info/uploads/COMPILED.pdf
> here it is!
> monty.
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From cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU  Tue Sep 28 17:43:08 2010
From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:43:08 -0700
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98Genius_grant=E2=80=99a_?= boost to linguist as
 she revive s a native language (fwd link)
Message-ID: <TUE.28.SEP.2010.104308.0700.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

?Genius grant? a boost to linguist as she revives a native language

By Laura Collins-Hughes
Globe Staff / September 28, 2010
USA

First she cried. Then she found out about the money and nearly fainted.

Jessie Little Doe Baird was overcome at the news that her 17 years of
linguistic work ? resurrecting the language the Wampanoag people spoke and
wrote until at least the mid-1800s ? had landed her a MacArthur Fellows
?genius grant?? of $500,000. The 23 recipients of this year?s John D. and
Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation grants, including five others from New
England, were announced this morning.

When the foundation notified Baird, 46, a Mashpee linguist and the program
director of the W?pan?ak Language Reclamation Project, two weeks ago of the
fellowship, the honor brought her to tears. As far as she knows, her
6-year-old daughter is the only child since the 19th century raised from
birth to speak Wampanoag (or, in that language, W?pan?ak).

Access full article below:
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From rzs at WILDBLUE.NET  Wed Sep 29 18:04:11 2010
From: rzs at WILDBLUE.NET (Richard Zane Smith)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:04:11 -0500
Subject: undergraduate thesis on language revitalization and technology
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=exHo0GkRqp6YuKU557+3j-QrUr3ZQbex89ac_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.29.SEP.2010.130411.0500.ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>

thanks Monty,
I appreciate you using anything I shared about our own struggling efforts
to revive,resuscitate,apply the paddles, kick the seat, jump start,hot-wire
our Wyandot language thats been blissfully sleeping for ...way tooooo long.

some pop right awake, and others don't wake very happily at all....

richard zane smith


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:43 PM, monty hill <mhill06 at simons-rock.edu> wrote:

> chwe:n everyone!
>
> i've uploaded a digital copy of my undergraduate thesis,
> entitled Yuw?t?:ri: or *resonant* (it-word-stirs) in the Tuscarora
> language, a branch of the northern Iroquoian language family, currently
> located in western new york, around buffalo / niagara falls. in it, i
> discuss the specific role of database technology in the Tuscarora language
> revitalization program and compare it with technology in two other language
> communities (thanks much to the contributions of Te Taka Keegan of Waikato
> University, New Zealand, and Richard Zane Smith of the Wyandotte nation of
> Oklahoma). in short, i hope you enjoy the read, and maybe some of you may
> find it helpful. i'd love to answer any questions anyone may have!
>
> nya:weh
> monty hill
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From: Dmark916 at AOL.COM (Dmark916 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:58:35 EDT
Subject: Fwd: Heritage Key Digest - Tandem Google Translate Latin Discit
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This British service has some interesting things, mostly archaeological.  
Today's edition has a fascinating segment in ancient Babylonian/Assyrian. 
How's  that for language restoration! Click on the Akkadian" link to hear the 
language  spoken.
D Martinez
 
 
  
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    *   _Tandem Google Translate  Latin Discit _ 
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    *   _Quest Your Way to Find  the Mummies_ 
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    *   _The Sound of Akkadian -  Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
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    *   _One Step Closer to  Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
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_Tandem Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
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Posted:  30 Sep 2010 05:42 AM PDT 
 
Google Translate has added Latin to the ever-expanding list of  languages 
the free service offers. In _a post  to the official Google blog_ 
(http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/veni-vidi-verba-verti.html)  titled 'Veni, 
Vidi, Verba  Verti' (which the service translates as 'I came, I saw, I  
translated the words'), Igeniarius Programmandi Jakob  Uszkoreit correctly points 
out that ? although it isn't likely to  be used to translate emails (with some 
exceptions, maybe) ? the new  service is an excellent tool for scholars all 
over the world as many  ancient and medieval works on philosophy, religion 
and science are  written in Latin, many of those available in Google Books. 
Uszkoreit is convinced the system ? still in alpha ? will soon  deliver 
accurate translations, as Latin grammar and vocabulary ceased  evolving and 
Google is using the 'thousands' of Latin books already  translated to a 
variety of languages to train the system.  As an  example he quotes Caesar's 'The 
Gallic Wars'.  Yet, when put to the  test regarding Caesar's conquest of 
Pharnaces, Google Translate gets a  bit confused (depending on punctuation): 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
_Ann Wuyts_ (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
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Last three pieces by this author:
_The  Sound of Akkadian - Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
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Closer to Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/one-step-closer-understanding-neanderthal-locomotion)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: 
Sanctuary dedicated to Persian god Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-dis
covered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /?





 
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m=email)   
Posted:  30 Sep 2010 03:51 AM PDT 
 
Exploring is more fun now with the new Heritage Key  Virtual Quest in the 
Treasures region! 
As you land in the _Arrivals  Area_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/site/heritage-key-grid-welcome-area)  after logging into _Heritage Key  Virtual_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/site/king-tut-virtual) , make your way to the teleports 
where you will see several  destinations. Selecting "Treasures" will take you to 
_King Tutankhamun's_ (http://heritage-key.com/king-tut)  _Golden  Shrine_ 
(http://heritage-key.com/egypt/encased-gold-shrines-king-tut) . 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/meral-crifasi)   
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)  | _Meet-Up  at the Valley of the Kings for Live Music _ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/meral-crifasi/meet-valley-kings-live-music) | _Meet the  Driver 
Challenge_ (mip://07f16de0/blogs/meral-crifasi/meet-driver-challenge) 

Meral joined Rezzable Productions Ltd. exactly  three years ago. It was 
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fascinated by the most amazing experiences  they have created in that period of time. 
Now she's even more excited  about the future and growth of Heritage Key. 
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_The Sound of Akkadian - Listen to Ancient Babylonian online_ 
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lonian-online?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)    
Posted:  30 Sep 2010 03:51 AM PDT 
 
 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/scruch/4245370037/) Almost 2,000 years after 
its last native  speakers disappeared, the sound of Ancient Babylonian 
makes a comeback  in an online audio archive.  The recordings include excerpts 
from  some of the earliest known works of world literature, dating back to 
the  first years of the second millennium BC. 
Prompted by the enquiries of curious colleagues and friends, Dr.  Martin 
Worthington,  an expert in Babylonian and Assyrian grammar  _from  the 
University of Cambridge_ 
(http://www.joh.cam.ac.uk/teaching_and_research/jr_fellows/m_worthington/) , has begun to record readings of  Babylonian poems, myths 
and other texts in the original tongue. In an  effort to present users with 
a variety of voices, the readings ?  available online for free at 
_www.speechisfire.com_ (http://www.speechisfire.com/)  ? are given  by Dr. 
Worthington's fellow Assyriologists. 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
_Ann Wuyts_ (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)  (follow me: _e-mail_ 
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Last three pieces by this author:
_Tandem  Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
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Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/one-step-closer-understanding-neanderthal-locomotion)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: Sanctuary dedicated to Persian 
god Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-discovered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /?





 
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(http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/hkdigest?a=U94q1ITloTQ:m6ubo4OjJu8:qj6IDK7rITs)  

_One Step Closer to Understanding Neanderthal Locomotion_ 
(http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/hkdigest/~3/4o5ODNvymXo/one-step-closer-understanding-neandert
hal-locomotion?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)   
Posted:  29 Sep 2010 10:44 AM PDT 
 
A new research project from the Universit? Libre de  Bruxelles (ULB) takes 
us ?one step further? as it comes to understanding  Neanderthal locomotion. 
 The Laboratory of Anatomy, Biomechanics  and Organogenesis' (LABO for 
short) project created a 3D virtual  reconstruction of a pair of Neanderthal 
lower limbs.

The  skeleton shows the Neanderthals had the same moves as we do ? and  
between 5% and 20% more leverage than us.   
Homonids (that includes all forms of the human lineage, be it extinct  or 
living) started bipedal locomotion (moving by means of your two rear  limbs 
or, in our case, legs) some 6 million years ago.  When you  compare our 
'modern man' gait to that of our fellow hominids, man takes  giant steps.  But 
what about the Neanderthals? To which degree is  their locomotion comparable 
to ours? 
 
 
 About The  Author (mip://07f16de0/users/ann)   
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Last three pieces by this author:
_Tandem  Google Translate Latin Discit _ 
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Babylonian online_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/sound-akkadian-listen-ancient-babylonian-online)  | _Angers'  Mithraeum: Sanctuary dedicated to Persian god 
Mithras discovered in  France_ 
(mip://07f16de0/blogs/ann/angers-mithraeum-sanctuary-dedicated-persian-god-mithras-discovered-france) 

Ann 'Vint' Wuyts is looking after the Heritage  Key community and avatar 
health & entertainment. She is slightly  fascinated by everything to do with 
3D technology and what's commonly  defined as 'Web 2.0'. When she grows up, 
Ann - eventually - wants to be  a mummy. Favourite game: Buzzword Bingo /?





 
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From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:55:24 -0700
Subject: Lorretta Webster, fluent in Oneida, dies at 100 (fwd link)
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Lorretta Webster, fluent in Oneida, dies at 100

She was part of tribe's language revitalization project

BY SCOTT WILLIAMS ? SWILLIAMS at GREENBAYPRESSGAZETTE.COM ? SEPTEMBER 30, 2010
USA

HOBART ? Lorretta Webster, one of the last people to learn Oneida as a first
language, died Monday. She was 100.

The Hobart native worked with the Oneida Language Revitalization Program,
started in 1996 after a survey found only 25 to 30 tribal elders were fluent
in Oneida.

"She never stopped using her language," said Inez Thomas, a coordinator at
the Oneida Cultural Heritage Center. "She never quit."

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From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:59:06 -0700
Subject: Preserving Mechoopda tradition (fwd link)
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Preserving Mechoopda tradition

A young tribe member creates a learning program using old recordings of the
native language

By Meredith J. Cooper
meredithc at newsreview.com
This article was published on 09.30.10.
USA

When Kyle McHenry stood in front of the elders of his Mechoopda Maidu tribe
and played for them a program he?d created of their native language this
summer, tears came to their eyes.

?There are no native speakers,? he said. ?It was worth all the work that I
did just to see the look on their faces. They haven?t heard it since they
were kids.?

One of the elders he spoke to was his grandmother, Delores McHenry.

?My grandfather was fluent in the language,? Delores explained. ?But he
could not pass it on to my dad because Bidwell wasn?t letting them speak the
language.?

So Koyoongkawi, the Mechoopda dialect, could have been lost forever. But for
young tribe members like Kyle, preserving traditions like language are
extremely important.

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From: cashcash at EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU (Phillip E Cash Cash)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:15:43 -0700
Subject: Cherokee Language App Available (fwd link)
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Cherokee Language App Available

Posted: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:25 am
USA

Native culture is now pop culture as Cherokee language software is available
on Apple's iPhone and iPod Touch devices, a Cherokee Nation news release
states.

"People communicate differently today. Including our language on the iPhone
and iPod makes it accessible to more people, especially our youth. This is
critical to the survival and growth of our language," Principal Chief Chad
Smith said.

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