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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hmmmm. I somehow missed this was posted on
the list. . . <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here was my response to Claire: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi, Claire, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks, on both counts. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Revitalization has 3 foci,
actually. Jeff Good's is only one; from what I understood from friends who
attended the session, it was about choosing and employing different field
collection technologies. I don't talk about that sort of thing, other than to recommend
digital recorders. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I talk about two other
things: 1) deciding what will be collected for STEM materials support (right
now there is very close to 0 across all collections); and 2) how materials can
best be presented to the learner to facilitate learning. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Words on paper with a
teacher repeating them individually once or twice a week doesn't work. Further,
all the rich lexical information is excellent for learning MORE ABOUT the
language, but interruptive for those who are LEARNING THE language. One needs
to make sure not to clutter up the cognitive paths, and while lots of related
information looks good for accomplishment reports, it is Really, Really Bad for
learners who are trying to develop skills in the language patterns. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Further, other that what
Powell write in 1881, there seems to be little written on the importance or
method of gathering STEM information. While there is overwhelming physical
evidence that STEM skills existed and flourished, there is no reflection of
this in elicitations. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>And lastly, the process of
developing revitalization materials is robust. There are lots of components
that go into it, given that people have realized that dictionary NOT =
revitalization (maybe they haven't). So I talk a lot about the cognitive
learning processes, and how the brain will use the patterns you give it to
develop IT'S OWN understanding of the language (as opposed to what someone else
thinks is important ABOUT the language). Research coming out of psychology (in
which I hold a Master's degree) is pointing out to people that the brain makes
its own decisions about what it will learn and how. The attention process in
many cases has little to do with direct learning, and more and sometimes only
to do with presenting the buffet of opportunities to the brain so it can make
its own choices (which it will anyway no matter what you do. . . . if the brain
doesn't have enough of the right information for it to Learn, it just blows you
off . . . [people don't realize this. . .]). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>So I don't think there is
duplication . . . do you? If you do, forward this along to Jeff and see what he
thinks. If he thinks there is potential duplication, he can write to me. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Mia</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Susan Penfield<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 11, 2006
7:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] LSA 2006</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Claire,<br>
Jeff Good and I spoke initially about somehow overlapping our sessions this
time, but it just wasn't feasible -- However, that is something we might be
able to do down the line ( i.e., a session on techniques AND a session on
fieldwork concerns/revitalization efforts). We are also discussing what might
be offered at the next LSA Institute (Stanford 2007) and or at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Berkeley</st1:place></st1:City> (2009)...time to start planning for
those events as well! Ideas would be welcomed I'm sure and there is a flyer
(not sure if it is available online yet) which will call for course proposals
for 2007. <br>
<br>
Glad you enjoyed Sunday's session!<br>
Best,<br>
Susan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 1/10/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Anggarrgoon</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:anggarrgoon@gmail.com">anggarrgoon@gmail.com</a> >
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Mia,<br>
first off, many apologies for not making your session - there was so <br>
much going on and the handbook was so hard to follow there were several<br>
I meant to go to and missed.<br>
<br>
I was at the final session on Sunday and thought it was great, and I<br>
hope that there will be something similar at future LSAs. <br>
The CELP committee and Jeff Good will be organising another session<br>
(Jeff was talking about making the 'techniques' workshop a regular item,<br>
with a different focus each year, so maybe email him so there's no<br>
duplication of efforts? Let me know if you need his email address.<br>
<br>
Claire<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-- <br>
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.<br>
<br>
Department of English<br>
Affiliate faculty: Department of Linguistics <br>
and the Second Language Acquisition and Teaching Program<br>
American Indian Language Development Institute<br>
Phone for messages: (520) 621-1836 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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