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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well this list certainly seems to be
livening up!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Susan Penfield wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>“…</span></font>linguists today
(unlike the way I was trained many, many years ago) need to think of themselve
as being in service to the community (therefore not only working 'with' but
also working 'for' and toward community-based concerns -- as a priority )<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>…”</span></font> <font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Which I think I would go along with, and
which parallels many of the concerns within “culturally appropriate”
computing at the moment. People are challenging previously well accepted
notions of usability and particular development methods, recognising that these
contain cultural bias. This is why I am interested in the cross-over of ideas
and methods from other disciplines that have already had this revelation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As an aside, I was wondering whether there
are tensions between prioritising the needs of the community versus
prioritising the needs of the language? What is best for one is not necessarily
best for the other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>In response to Annie</span></font> <font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Ross’ email, firstly I didn’t particularly
see it as an attack on me or my views as some have (but maybe I am just dull).</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Love” might indeed be a
radical concept in some contexts (perhaps in a society based on arranged
marriages), but equally it can be reactionary, or even just total bollocks. (In
case anyone thinks that ‘bollocks’ is an indecent word I refer you
to the Sex Pistols court case: <a
href="http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/courtcase.html">http://www.acc.umu.se/~samhain/summerofhate/courtcase.html</a>)
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When I spoke of the need to “…re-radicalise
the post-colonial agenda within the post-modern neo-liberal context…”
is was intended to be a humorous example of the sort of thing that people like
myself, who do not have a grounding in these concepts, find difficult to put
into practice. It wasn’t meant to make any sense – if it did it was
by accident rather than by design (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing!).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course “fuck” is just a
good old-fashioned Anglo-Saxon way of saying “make love to”, and I
think suggesting that we make love to the labellers is a charming suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course humour is one of those very
difficult areas with regard to cultural differences – feel free to inset
smileys in any of the above wherever makes you most happy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Be seeing you,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Daniel.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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