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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have this particular one. I have 2 <st1:place
w:st="on">Olympus</st1:place> models, actually. They work well because you can
configure them to download automatically when you connect them. I don’t
like the fact that the default folders are buried in the Programs directory,
but after a while, you get used to it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All the files come in in .wav format. If
you are recording individuals, make sure you are not set to Meeting mode. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As for ADPCM, you might find this link
helpful: <a href="http://telecom.tbi.net/digadpcm.htm">http://telecom.tbi.net/digadpcm.htm</a>
It is delightfully technical, with pictures. You will also find lots of
material if you search for the expansion. These algorigthms are important
because you are ALWAYS converting Analog to Digital when you are dealing with
streaming events like voice. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Jan Tucker<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2006
7:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] Affordable
digital recorder advice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thank you all for the information you provided about
affordable digital recorders. I'm looking at this one right now. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Yes, I'm using it for language revitalization, and would
like the best possible quality and least degredation. I have about 100 to spend
on the devise and the accessories such as a microphone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<h1><st1:place w:st="on"><b><font size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>Olympus</span></font></b></st1:place><font
size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'> VN-960PC Digital Voice Recorder,
with LCD Display - Built-in 128MB Flash Memory and PC Link</span></font><o:p></o:p></h1>
<h1><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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size=3 color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>Any further comments would be
welcome. Here is a link with specifications.</span></font><font size=2
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<h1><b><font size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>In recording format they
say ADPCM (Adaptive Differential Pulse code Modulation)(WAV on PC). Can I
assume then this is a .wav format recorder?</span></font></b><font face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thank you,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>From: "Nicholas Thieberger" <</span></font><a
href="mailto:thien@UNIMELB.EDU.AU"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>thien@UNIMELB.EDU.AU</span></font></a><font
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font-family:Arial'>To: <</span></font><a
href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</span></font></a><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:30 PM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>> David,<br>
> <br>
> If it does not record in WAV format then it is not archival. |If it <br>
> records in a compressed form like WMA, mp3, or others, and then <br>
> converts to WAV it means the actual recording has already lost lots <br>
> of the signal. The m-audio microtrack records to WAV and is around <br>
> US$300 and is not too bad, it has some problem with preamps.<br>
> <br>
> Nick<br>
> <br>
> At 11:17 AM -0800 30/1/06, David Lewis wrote:<br>
>>Hi Nicholas,<br>
>>I checked out the first website mentioned and they wrote this as to <br>
>>an archival quality format "For audio, use WAV <br>
>><</span></font><a href="http://emeld.org/school/glossary.html#wav"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://emeld.org/school/glossary.html#wav</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
format." <br>
>>Coincidentally, I was at Best Buy last night and looked over their <br>
>>selection and chose the lower end of the higher end devices, the <br>
>>WS-100. It is supposed to transfer directly into Microsoft WMA <br>
>>format to the computer. I'm pretty sure I can then convert it to WAV <br>
>>format either with Windows Media player or ITunes. Any advice here? <br>
>>the device cost $100. the next higher device was $149.00.<br>
>>David Lewis<br>
>><br>
>>Nicholas Thieberger wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>>--><br>
>>>Just to add to this thread from an archival perspective. If you are
<br>
>>>recording unique things that you want to be available to <br>
>>>generations to come then you need to think about the format of what
<br>
>>>you are recording and whether it will endure. <st1:place w:st="on">Olympus</st1:place>
and other <br>
>>>small (and cheap, unfortunately) recorders do not record in <br>
>>>archival formats.<br>
>>><br>
>>>For a summary of the issues around longterm storage of recorded <br>
>>>material and endangered languages you could look at <br>
>>>http://emeld.org/school/index.html.<br>
>>><br>
>>>There was a discussion of recorders on the RNLD list and if you go <br>
>>>to the archive of the RNLD list, here: <br>
>>>http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S1=resource-network-linguistic-diversity
<br>
>>>and search for 'flash' and 'recorder' you will get some useful info<br>
>>><br>
>>>A summary item is here: </span></font><a
href="http://linguistlist.org/issues/16/16-2710.html"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://linguistlist.org/issues/16/16-2710.html</span></font></a><br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>>><br>
>>>All the best,<br>
>>><br>
>>>Nick Thieberger<br>
>>><br>
>>>At 7:36 AM -0700 30/1/06, Mia Kalish wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>>Jan & all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I have been using <st1:place w:st="on">Olympus</st1:place>
digital recorders for years now. They have 3<br>
>>>>quality settings (low, medium, & high) and 2 recording
modes (one for<br>
>>>>meetings, one for one-to-one). The ones I buy are about $99. I
recently got<br>
>>>>a Sony refurb unit for $32 at e-cost.com.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I didn't read the thread about recorders, because I'm really
happy with<br>
>>>>mine, and I had shared about it before.<br>
>>><br>
>>>>Mia<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>--<br>
>>><br>
>>>Project Manager<br>
>>>PARADISEC<br>
>>>Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics<br>
>>><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Melbourne</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, Vic 3010<br>
>>><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
>>><br>
>>>nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au<br>
>>>Ph 61 (0)3 8344 5185<br>
>>><br>
>>>PARADISEC<br>
>>>Pacific And Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
Cultures<br>
>>>http://paradisec.org.au<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Project Manager<br>
> PARADISEC<br>
> Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Melbourne</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, Vic 3010<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> <br>
> </span></font><a href="mailto:nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au</span></font></a><br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
Ph 61 (0)3 8344 5185<br>
> <br>
> PARADISEC<br>
> Pacific And Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered Cultures<br>
> </span></font><a href="http://paradisec.org.au"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://paradisec.org.au</span></font></a><br>
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