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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I guess the upshot of all this is that I
don’t think people should be made to feel bad because they can’t
afford high-end equipment. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I loved Keola’s musician’s
analysis. He’s right about the Dolby hiss </span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And I agree that there are lots of
recording options. But I think also what has come out of this discussion is
that there are lots of considerations, lots of available technology, lots of
things you can do with the recordings, and lots of people who will use the
technology and the recordings. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Keola mentioned sampling frequencies: # of
bits is related to sampling size; it is also related to how fast materials will
download. I’ve noticed that a lot of the sites I see don’t seem to
worry about how long it takes a sound to make it down to the listener. People
also use Windows Media format which is InCreDibly SLOW. . . . (aaargh). Every
time to open a sound, it has to open that high-graph interface. . . . Recently,
I couldn’t download the new Windows Media Player because there was something
wrong with the signing in the internal configuration. So I could hear the Welsh
on the BBS site. . . .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mia<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Susan Penfield<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2006
11:42 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] Affordable
digital recorder advice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mia,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I couldn't agree more, because we have found all of the same
conditions/recommendations. But the use of high quality equipment, in the
field, still yields much better and much longer lasting recordings and should
be considered. We had some problems just this weekend with a high end recorder,
just because it was not initially easy to use. That led us to rethink what
equipment is best and/or how much more training is needed. Guess all I'm saying
is that there are lots of options now (I have also used your same recorder) and
that making more of an investment in high quality is worth it in the long run.
We are also in the business of creating tons of stuff for the community and are
putting that responsibility into the hands of community members -- so I really
understand what you are saying. Nevertheless, that makes the quality of the
recordings even more valuable and we should all be striving not just for lots
of stuff but for the best possible stuff, given the recording conditions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Susan<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 1/31/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mia
Kalish</span></b> <<a href="mailto:MiaKalish@learningforpeople.us"
target="_blank">MiaKalish@learningforpeople.us </a>> wrote:</span></font></span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Hi, Susan, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I didn't read the whole main thread, but I thought I was
perceiving a recommendation for "recording studio quality" for archival
recording. Bringing people into a sound controlled studio is very different
from working in communities where we create tons and tons of material for use
by the community. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>When we were doing this initially 4-5 years ago now, Depree
and I created a whole checklist of things we wanted to be able to do, with a
focus of working in the community. For us, the considerations ranked
approximately as follows: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Elder comfort</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Affordable by community members</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>3.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>High quality recording</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>4.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Convenience</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>5.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>High portability</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>6.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Battery-powered </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>7.</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ease of use, for us & for community members</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Our goal was to work with communities to show them how they
could take a major hand in designing and developing their own resources. As
such, many of our considerations incorporated the needs of the Community in our
assessment of recorders. Sophisticated, expensive recorders wouldn't be
appropriate; special recording rooms and devices would take us out of the
community and would also be difficult to use in places where people live. We
didn't want to use our hosts' electricity; for some people, this is a financial
hardship, even for small requirements. We were also prepared for places where
there is no electricity; or where the travel to and from the locale is
challenging, as for example, the path down the <st1:place w:st="on">Grand
Canyon</st1:place> to the Havapai. So we included all these considerations in
our analysis. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Mia</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indigenous
Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName> [mailto: <a
href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Susan Penfield<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2006
7:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Re: [ILAT]
Affordable digital recorder advice<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Mia, Jan and all,<br>
Just a thought here -- It seems to me that we might not want to distinguish
between the uses for revitalization and documentation. Good quality is needed
on both fronts since they really play into each other. I think that ease of use
is important (for some of us less techie folks), and certainly cost is an issue
for many, but getting good archival quality doesn't necessarily mean giving up
all the other things Mia referred and,increasingly, those of us who do
revitalization work need to be mindful that many of those recordings may end up
as the only documentation of the language. <br>
Best,<br>
Susan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 1/31/06,
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Jan Tucker</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:jtucker@starband.net" target="_blank"> jtucker@starband.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank
you all for the information you provided about affordable digital recorders.
I'm looking at this one right now. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yes,
I'm using it for language revitalization, and would like the best possible
quality and least degredation. I have about 100 to spend on the devise and the
accessories such as a microphone. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1><st1:place w:st="on"><b><font size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>Olympus</span></font></b></st1:place><font
size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'> VN-960PC Digital Voice Recorder,
with LCD Display - Built-in 128MB Flash Memory and PC Link</span></font><o:p></o:p></h1>
<h1><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:normal'> </span></font></b><font
size=2 color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'> </span></font><font size=3
color="#333333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>Any further comments would be welcome. Here
is a link with specifications. </span></font><o:p></o:p></h1>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=389757&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation#Recording"
target="_blank"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=389757&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation#Recording
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<h1><b><font size=2 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>In recording format they
say ADPCM (Adaptive Differential Pulse code Modulation)(WAV on PC). Can I
assume then this is a .wav format recorder? </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></h1>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank
you,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-----
Original Message ----- </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From:
"Nicholas Thieberger" <</span></font><a
href="mailto:thien@UNIMELB.EDU.AU" target="_blank"> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>thien@UNIMELB.EDU.AU </span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To:
<</span></font><a href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</span></font> </a><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sent:
Monday, January 30, 2006 2:30 PM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Subject:
Re: [ILAT] Affordable digital recorder advice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
David,<br>
> <br>
> If it does not record in WAV format then it is not archival. |If it <br>
> records in a compressed form like WMA, mp3, or others, and then <br>
> converts to WAV it means the actual recording has already lost lots <br>
> of the signal. The m-audio microtrack records to WAV and is around <br>
> US$300 and is not too bad, it has some problem with preamps.<br>
> <br>
> Nick <br>
> <br>
> At 11:17 AM -0800 30/1/06, David Lewis wrote:<br>
>>Hi Nicholas,<br>
>>I checked out the first website mentioned and they wrote this as to <br>
>>an archival quality format "For audio, use WAV <br>
>><</span></font><a href="http://emeld.org/school/glossary.html#wav"
target="_blank"> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>http://emeld.org/school/glossary.html#wav </span></font></a><font
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format." <br>
>>Coincidentally, I was at Best Buy last night and looked over their <br>
>>selection and chose the lower end of the higher end devices, the <br>
>>WS-100. It is supposed to transfer directly into Microsoft WMA <br>
>>format to the computer. I'm pretty sure I can then convert it to WAV <br>
>>format either with Windows Media player or ITunes. Any advice here? <br>
>>the device cost $100. the next higher device was $149.00.<br>
>>David Lewis<br>
>><br>
>>Nicholas Thieberger wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>>--><br>
>>>Just to add to this thread from an archival perspective. If you are
<br>
>>>recording unique things that you want to be available to <br>
>>>generations to come then you need to think about the format of what
<br>
>>>you are recording and whether it will endure. <st1:place w:st="on">Olympus</st1:place>
and other <br>
>>>small (and cheap, unfortunately) recorders do not record in <br>
>>>archival formats.<br>
>>><br>
>>>For a summary of the issues around longterm storage of recorded <br>
>>>material and endangered languages you could look at <br>
>>><a href="http://emeld.org/school/index.html" target="_blank">http://emeld.org/school/index.html</a>.<br>
>>><br>
>>>There was a discussion of recorders on the RNLD list and if you go <br>
>>>to the archive of the RNLD list, here: <br>
>>><a
href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S1=resource-network-linguistic-diversity"
target="_blank"> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?S1=resource-network-linguistic-diversity
</a><br>
>>>and search for 'flash' and 'recorder' you will get some useful info<br>
>>> <br>
>>>A summary item is here: </span></font><a
href="http://linguistlist.org/issues/16/16-2710.html" target="_blank"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://linguistlist.org/issues/16/16-2710.html</span></font></a><br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>>>
<br>
>>>All the best,<br>
>>><br>
>>>Nick Thieberger<br>
>>><br>
>>>At 7:36 AM -0700 30/1/06, Mia Kalish wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>>Jan & all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I have been using <st1:place w:st="on">Olympus</st1:place>
digital recorders for years now. They have 3 <br>
>>>>quality settings (low, medium, & high) and 2 recording
modes (one for<br>
>>>>meetings, one for one-to-one). The ones I buy are about $99. I
recently got <br>
>>>>a Sony refurb unit for $32 at <a href="http://e-cost.com/"
target="_blank">e-cost.com</a>.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>I didn't read the thread about recorders, because I'm really
happy with<br>
>>>>mine, and I had shared about it before.<br>
>>><br>
>>>>Mia <br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>--<br>
>>><br>
>>>Project Manager<br>
>>>PARADISEC<br>
>>>Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics <br>
>>><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Melbourne</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, Vic 3010<br>
>>><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
>>><br>
>>><a href="mailto:nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au"
target="_blank"> nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au </a><br>
>>>Ph 61 (0)3 8344 5185<br>
>>><br>
>>>PARADISEC<br>
>>>Pacific And Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered
Cultures <br>
>>><a href="http://paradisec.org.au/" target="_blank">http://paradisec.org.au</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Project Manager<br>
> PARADISEC<br>
> Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Melbourne</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, Vic 3010<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
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> <br>
> </span></font><a href="mailto:nicholas.thieberger@paradisec.org.au"
target="_blank"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
Ph 61 (0)3 8344 5185 <br>
> <br>
> PARADISEC<br>
> Pacific And Regional Archive for Digital Sources in Endangered Cultures <br>
> </span></font><a href="http://paradisec.org.au/" target="_blank"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://paradisec.org.au
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