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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suppose some enterprising grad student could
try it. . . </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> Wouldn’t that make an interesting semester project!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Sophia Stevenson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 20, 2006
11:35 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] Fwd: 17.552,
Media: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It's not the recording that's in French, it's the video discussing the
find that's in French... The recording played in the video is supposedly in
Latin, from a vase fired in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Pompeii</st1:place></st1:City>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Having taken a few years of Latin, and after hearing that recording, I
find this quite hard to believe. But if that isn't enough, the method of
recording using a stylus wasn't used until 1877, when <st1:place w:st="on">Edison</st1:place>
recorded "Mary Had a Little Lamb." And I'm pretty sure he didn't use
pottery... (I believe it was tinfoil, actually.) The chances that somebody's
vocal vibrations passed into the instrument used to decorate the pottery, and
that these vibrations survived through any type of glazing (as was the custom
of the period), are incredibly slim.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Still, it's a neat concept! Makes a good story too...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sophia Stevenson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PlaceType w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>University</span></font></st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Quebec</st1:PlaceName> At <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Montreal</st1:place></st1:City><br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mia Kalish
<MiaKalish@LEARNINGFORPEOPLE.US></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Actually, I think the article references the process of early recording,<br>
where a stylus like device vibrated and made little holes or dents in the<br>
recording medium. So it's the same principle. Now, whether it's
"French" is<br>
really a stretch. English, which I know a bit about, has changed a lot I the<br>
few thousand years we have been watching it. "French" would have had
to<br>
change a great deal more in 6,500. <br>
<br>
Mia<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]<br>
On Behalf Of Joshua Beck<br>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:01 AM<br>
To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Fwd: 17.552, Media: 6500-year-old voices recorded in<br>
pottery!<br>
<br>
Boy, this is a tough one to believe, although who knows...it's a <br>
captivatin g possibility!<br>
<br>
At 11:29 AM 2/20/2006, you wrote:<br>
>I'm not sure how much I believe this, but it is certainly interesting. <br>
>(The pottery is from <st1:place w:st="on">South America</st1:place>.)<br>
><br>
>Barbara Need<br>
>Manager (SS4), Computer <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Support</st1:PersonName>,
Archivist<br>
><br>
><br>
>>LINGUIST List: Vol-17-552. Mon Feb 20 2006. ISSN: 1068 - 4875.<br>
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>>Date: 19-Feb-2006<br>
>>From: Mike Matloff < michelhoo@yahoo.com ><br>
>>Subject: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>-------------------------Message 1 ----------------------------------<br>
>>Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:35:55<br>
>>From: Mike Matloff < michelhoo@yahoo.com ><br>
>>Subject: 6500-year-old voices recorded in pottery!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Description from The Raw Feed (http://www.therawfeed.com):<br>
>><br>
>>'Belgian researchers have been able to use computer scans of the
grooves<br>
in<br>
>>6,500-year-old pottery to extract sounds -- including talking and
laughter<br>
>>-- made by the vibrations of the tools used to make the pottery.'<br>
>><br>
>>Here's the link to the video:<br>
>>http://www.zalea.org/article.php3?id_article=496<br>
>><br>
>>It's only available in French right now, but even if you don't speak<br>
French<br>
>>I think you can get the general gist and hear the 'playback'!<br>
>><br>
>>Mike<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>Linguistic Field(s): Anthropological Linguistics<br>
>> Genera l Linguistics<br>
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