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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Susan Penfield<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 11, 2006
6:41 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] Computers as
expensive electronic workbooks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>All,<br>
I certainly agree with Rudy's comments that the best way learn a language
(especially because all the culture is also encoded) is through grandpartents,
when available. Short of that though, and for the languages I'm working with
which are down to just a few speakers, technology does at least offer an
attempt to teach (I'll also agree with Mia and Rudy -- we really don't know how
much is being learned) the language. AND, for kids who may be spending
lots of time with other learning games, why not have one in the native
language? I'll invite you to check out the Learning Games Initiative site
a the U of A at <a href="http://www.mesmernet.org/lgi/">http://www.mesmernet.org/lgi/</a><br>
<br>
I am reminded by this discussion just how new our field of <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName> ( ILAT !!) still
is and how much we all need to keep exploring the potential. My guess is that
people will show a preference and response to learning much like with other
learning styles -- tecnology will be a great path to learning for some; not so
good for others. But, as noted, the data is still sparse. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Susan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 3/11/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Rudy
Troike</span></b> <<a href="mailto:rtroike@email.arizona.edu">rtroike@email.arizona.edu</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Re Mia's comments, it has been my experience that most of the highly
touted<br>
work in "CALL" (Computer-Assisted/Aided Language Learning: a
misnomer, since<br>
we don't know how much learning occurs -- it should be Teaching,
"CALT", but <br>
it doesn't make as cute an acronym) is really the old paper workbook trans-<br>
ferred to a computer costing a thousand dollars, and the software costing<br>
several hundreds. I once challenged the editor of a CALL newsletter to give <br>
me an example of a program that was not like this, and out of scores or<br>
even hundreds of programs, she could cite only a few. Things have improved<br>
lately, and the military are using virtual reality software to teach language, <br>
but this software is not publicly available, or even viewable. Some of it<br>
is outstandingly sophisticated, and is based in part on computer games<br>
technology, which Susan Penfield is also working on with a faculty member in <br>
the English Dept. here at the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Arizona</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>. I saw a bit
of a report<br>
on CBS the other night that said a national study was questioning how much<br>
computer programs were in fact improving students' learning. Computer programs <br>
are not panaceas, and for child language learning, will never replace the<br>
personal interaction with grandparents in the Native language. The most<br>
effective -- and least expensive -- way to preserve a language is to have <br>
children spend time living with grandparents who are fluent in the language.<br>
<br>
I've recently begun experimenting with
using Power Point to illustrate<br>
stages in linguistic change, and I think that it will be effective. I'm <br>
trying to show how the famous "Great Vowel Shift" in English operated
(where-<br>
by words such as "ride", originally with the vowel /iy/ [the vowel of
present<br>
day "he"] came to be pronounced as /ay/, as it is now. If this works
all <br>
right, I'll try it to illustrate a shift in language usage spreading<br>
geograhically and between age groups. In any event, PowerPoint offers<br>
quite a bit of flexibility that can be exploited.<br>
<br>
Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-- <br>
Susan D. Penfield, Ph.D.<br>
<br>
Department of English<br>
Affiliate faculty: Department of Linguistics <br>
and the Second Language Acquisition and Teaching Program<br>
American Indian Language Development Institute <br>
Phone for messages: (520) 621-1836 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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