<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">hey all discussion group means we can discuss things that come up as an extension of our language and technology focus ( in my own sometimes humble opinion)<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Apr 30, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jan Tucker wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <DIV><SPAN class="050163919-30042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Richard, thanks for your story, I'd like to share it with my applied anthropology class and race and ethnic relations class ....with your permission of course. More of your perspective needs to be heard and this story is a great way to share your perspective. I agree with you, and I can certainly talk to some of your points, however since this is a language and technology discussion group, I'm respectfully not going to. Let me however apologize for those who aren't willing to even have dialogue and share this quote by John Kenneth Galbraith Oct 15 1908-Apr 29th 2006. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class="050163919-30042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman" color="#000000" size="3"><B>"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; </B></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman" color="#000000" size="3"> </FONT></STRONG></FONT><DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman" color="#000000" size="3"><B>that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." and </B>"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="050163919-30042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="050163919-30042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Jan Tucker</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="050163919-30042006"><FONT face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><FONT face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Indigenous Languages and Technology [<A href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU">mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [ILAT] anthropology with no apology<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR><BR><BR>Kweh omateru,<BR>(greetings friends.)<BR>thanks for all these resources<BR>this is a language egroup with very great leads and info!<BR>but culture and language are really inseperatable so anthropology will wade in<BR>and sometimes set its OWN standards. As tribal members we need to be careful.<BR>Sometimes all this “professional intelligence” creates its own language, laws and bi-laws.<BR><BR>Years ago visiting Chaco Canyon one weekend I was curious about the pottery found in the area.The<BR> resource person I asked stated no one was certain if pottery was actually made in the canyon .<BR>Later that day, I scooped out a handful of clay out of a park rangers muddy tire track,<BR>sat on a boulder and made a pot...since its what I do anyway.Camping that evening I burnished it with <BR>a socket from my socket wrench set,and by morning it was dry ...hey, great clay!<BR>I went to the visitors center and looked for someone to talk to. <BR>I set it on the desk ...and for the next hour I was interogated with suspicion and rudeness.<BR>I had hoped to converse with an archaeologist, but he would not even show his face. <BR>He only would send instructions to the desk as to what to do with this “situation”.<BR>Finally, I was told I would NOT be prosecuted if I returned to the place where I picked out the mud <BR>and place the little pot where it could erode back into the soil.<BR>I am a very patient person,even my wife will tell you! But I was burning up.<BR>So...i realized something that day<BR>Anthropology/Archeaology can create a culture of its own. <BR>It can set itself up to be only correct view to observe and learn and to even to teach.<BR>even set up its own ”police force” to deal with nonconformists<BR><BR>I’m not against anthropology(some of my best friends are anthropologists! seriously!) <BR>But as a science it tends to set up its own grids from which to pass OUR cultures through.<BR>Anthropology itself, as an alien science needs to be studied...evaluated...by native peoples<BR>“what makes an anthropologist” might make a good study ..turn the tables a little. <BR>what makes outsiders come study us?<BR>NOW, that would make an interesting thesis!<BR><BR>Oh ,I know,no need to remind me,<BR>I know why Chaco Canyon must be strict,its obvious,because of all the tourists coming through.<BR>”if everyone came and took a piece of mud out of the tire track...” yeah...yeah... <BR><BR>this is not meant to stir up arguments or justifications,<BR>paint one people good and another bad<BR>no , I just want to share a little <BR>from experiance and cautions gained<BR>richard<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>I want to share something that happened to me that makes me worry sometimes<BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"></FONT></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>