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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Indigenous
Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 11, 2008
8:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ILAT] Mongolians
first to discover America claims professor</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>In discussion with Greg Anderson
of Living Tongues,he found<br>
similarities in siberian and some athabaskan languages<br>
but he presented the possibility that<br>
populations of migrating americans could just as well have settled <br>
parts of Siberia and languages could have been spread this way as well.<br>
The Bering Strait might not have been The One Way Road <br>
we see on high school school maps<br>
<br>
I guess Athabaskans could claim to have discovered Russia?<br>
<br>
Richard Zane Smith<br>
Wyandotte, Oklahoma<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/11/08 4:01 PM, "Ryan Denzer-King"
<johndillinger43@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Verdana'>From what I know about the Bering
Strait theory, the crossings occurred at far too great a time depth for any
significant (at least superficial) linguistic evidence to be present.
It's my understanding that any divergences great than 10,000 years are
essentially impossible to prove, since the divergence will be great enough that
similarities in the languages due to common genetic origin will not be
statistically significantly greater than those due to chance.<br>
<br>
Ryan Denzer-King<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:06 -0700<br>
From: bernisantamaria@GMAIL.COM<br>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Mongolians first to discover America claims professor (fwd)<br>
To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<br>
Dear ILAT:<br>
I find this topic interesting too since I read somewhere that there had been
DNA comparisons done on American Indian and Mongolians or Asians? Does
anyone know if there was something like that in the past several years? I
believe it also stated that there were very little similarities. Regarding the
Bering Strait theory--that's all it is according to the late Prof. Vine
Deloria, it is not proven scientific fact that it occurred. Also, where
is the linguistic evidence that any Indigenous languages of the Americas are,
in any way, similar to Asian or Mongolian languages? It would seem that
the issue of parallels in language has not been proven although there have been
comparisons done. <br>
<br>
Bernadette A. Santamaria<br>
<br>
<br>
On 1/11/08, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Dr. Dorene Wiese</span></b>
<dpwiese@aol.com> wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear ILAT LISTSERV.<br>
<br>
The article on the Mongolians is very interesting, considering, when we visited
there with the first American Indian group in l980, they had<br>
never heard of the Bering Strait theory. It is true, however, that when we took
our group picture, some of us on Mongolian horses, in Ulan Batar,you could not
tell who the Indians were and who the Mongolians were. George Bordeaux
has great film coverage of that historic event. It was a tremendous trip. I
call that time, China before McDonalds. <br>
Dorene<br>
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font-family:Verdana'><br>
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<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: phil cash cash <cashcash@EMAIL.ARIZONA.EDU> <br>
To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 1:58 pm<br>
Subject: [ILAT] Mongolians first to discover America claims professor (fwd) <br>
<br>
Mongolians first to discover America claims professor<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
12:01 | 11/ 01/ 2008<br>
<br>
<a href="http://en.rian.ru/world/20080111/96196977.html">http://en.rian.ru/world/20080111/96196977.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
BEIJING, January 11 (RIA Novosti) - A Mongolian professor of history has said<br>
<br>
America was discovered by the Mongolians and not Christopher Columbus, as is<br>
<br>
popularly believed, the Xinhua news agency reported late on Thursday.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Professor Sumiya Jambaldorj from the Genghis Khan University in the Mongolian<br>
<br>
capital, UIan Bator, performed a study proving the similarity between American<br>
<br>
place names and words in the Mongolian language.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"About 8,000 to 25,000 years ago, Mongols with stone tools crossed the
Aleutian<br>
<br>
Islands and arrived in America," Jambaldorj was reported as saying.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The academic said that over 20 place names in the Alaskan Aleutian Islands
could<br>
<br>
be Mongolian.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"Many names of places and rivers in the U.S. state of Alaska are believed
to be<br>
<br>
Mongolian," he said.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The news agency said there were similar words in a Native American language and<br>
<br>
Mongolian, e.g. "hagaan," which means "ancestor" in
Mongolian.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jambaldorj said there was much in common between the ancestors of the
Mongolians<br>
<br>
and the Native Americans, adding that some types of stone tools found in the<br>
<br>
Aleutian Islands had also been discovered in the Gobi desert area of Mongolia.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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