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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Has anyone heard of Roland Stevenson? I met him in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>, a
Chilean painter. He found support for Pacific crossing from a portrait artist’s
perspective, by drawing South American and Pacific faces. I remember drawings
of the Pacific </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:
Wingdings'>à</span></font> <st1:place w:st="on">South America</st1:place> travel
routes he had derived. There is a book out of that work, called <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Uma Luz nos Mistérios Amazônicos. </span></i>I don’t
know how it was received.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>~ i<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ilse Ackerman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indigenous Languages and Technology</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of McMillan, Carol<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:01 PM<br>
To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] Crossing the Pacific</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Fascinating. Can't believe I haven't heard of this.
Thanks so much.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>No mention of <st1:place w:st="on">Rapa Nui</st1:place>,
but it would explain the physical appearance of Easter Islanders. Their
language and culture are definitely of Polynesian, but there are also many
South American influences (as in the stonework of their platforms or ahus.)
Very interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Carol <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indigenous Languages
and Technology</st1:PersonName> [mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Daryn McKenny<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:47 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Subject: Re: [ILAT] Crossing the Pacific<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>I am sure you have all seen this article then, it is
an old one:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/430944.stm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>I have just attended ILATC and I just felt like I was
at home, an amazing place with amazing people on amazing country, just like
home. I know we are related, Aboriginal people connect with Aboriginal people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>But,we must have had really big trees to make our bark
canoes back then though.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Daryn McKenny<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Arwarbukarl Cultural Resource Association Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Read our Indigenous Language BLOG at
http://www.arwarbukarl.net.au/blog/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indigenous Languages
and Technology</st1:PersonName> [mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf
Of McMillan, Carol<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 6:11 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Subject: [ILAT] Crossing the Pacific<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> As a biological anthropologist by training, and
being wary of the European penchant for wanting to have "discovered"
everything, and having read that even geneticists now say that the aboriginal
peoples of Australia had to have had boats at least 40,000 years ago, and
having looked at the people of Rapa Nui (Easter Island) vs. other Pacific
Islanders, and hearing about the Hawaiian sailing canoes that have recently
traveled to Alaska and returned, (and . . . and . . . ) I believe it's time for
us all to admit that indigenous people have been traveling by sea for many
thousands of years, back and forth between continents. I'm growing a bit weary
of all the who-came-first debates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Perhaps it's all worth it if European and
European-decent scholars in general become less ethnocentric in their world
views. (I'm Scottish, I can say that.) Maybe the debate shouldn't be about
who had the technology and ability to cross large bodies of water, but who was
motivated to do it in order to rape/pillage/plunder vs. those who went to trade
and/or visit with others. That focus might put Columbus and others into
categories more appropriate to their conduct.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sorry, I just had to weigh in here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Carol McMillan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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