you noticed something similar there too?<div><br></div><div><a href="http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~shlede/ying/yang.html">http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~shlede/ying/yang.html</a> </div><div>seems to be a fairly good reference to Yin and Yang ?</div>
<div><br></div><div>The unending spiral core has the same interior center line as in the Yin and Yang</div><div>(notice the line dividing the dark and the light side does the same reverse turn).</div><div>its simply placed within a perfect sphere.</div>
<div> </div><div>about "black" n "white"</div><div><br></div><div>Our ancient Wendat/Iroquoian Hero twin stories have similar themes.</div><div>positive/negative..good/non-good themes </div><div>which often "explains why we's in the mess we's in"</div>
<div>but I'm wondering if english really fails with these "pictures"</div><div>since "Latin-based reasoning" reduces much traditional verb into nouns</div><div>and into sheer hard fast categories,files,definitions,continually </div>
<div>and i think we lose something about these "opposites" in translation..</div><div><div class="gmail_quote">These stories are foundational to our cultures , but until wandat fluency</div><div class="gmail_quote">
I feel like i'm only nibbling bits with foreign feeling teeth.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">ske:noh</div><div class="gmail_quote">Richard</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Heather Souter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hsouter@gmail.com">hsouter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hey, do you see an echo of the Ying and Yang symbol in the spiral....?<br><br>Eekoshi.<br><font color="#888888">Heather</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Richard Zane Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rzs@wildblue.net" target="_blank">rzs@wildblue.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hey thats pretty interesting Heather,</div><div>something pretty universal with that thing.</div>
<div>I wonder if maybe someones thinking "what does all this have to do with technology?</div><div>I wanna hear about the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!"</div>
For scientists,(poor things),it'll almost take a Physics approach to come even near this stuff.<div><div><div class="gmail_quote">Oh and Rolland ,</div><div class="gmail_quote"> yeah! use what you want , of course! I'm honored!</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">i've been writing more stuff about the spiral .... for what its worth,</div><div class="gmail_quote">I can send it to you. I think the Spiral can be an ancient key to open</div><div class="gmail_quote">
basic universals of Change, Pattern and Mystery that can apply to everything from</div><div class="gmail_quote">the cycles of days,months,years,ages, human life patterns,</div><div class="gmail_quote">to describing the birth rise peak decline and collapse of civilizations (see jpg)</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">of religions, of personal life and cultural life. Maybe as an artist/craftsman</div><div class="gmail_quote">I like to see simple basic patterns in things.... nothing fancy or high-tech...</div><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Heather Souter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hsouter@gmail.com" target="_blank">hsouter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Taanshi. <br><br>Wahwaa! Tapwee lii boñ nistwer. Kihchi-maarsii! Wow! Some really wonderful stories. Thank-you very much!<br><br>I remember having to write "my own cosmology" for a course I did at UBC some years ago.... The images that came to my mind were of spirals within spirals and multiple "returns to origin".... It was nothing like what I had been taught in the course (Geophysics/Astrophysics)! LOL! Anyhow, I continue to ponder the images ever since.... <br>
<br>Kihchi-maarsii por tii parol! Thank-you for your words!<br><br>Eekoshi. That's it.<br><font color="#888888">Heather Souter</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikinakn@shaw.ca" target="_blank">mikinakn@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Rolland, write what you remember, to leave it for your grandchildren
and their grandchildren; you are right, I’m sure, that those who are
gone knew you would remember.<br>
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My husband has just done that — from what his grandparents and other
elders born in the 19th century told him. It took him some 15 years.
He is now in his 90s and now, finally, his book is in press, some 600
pages, at the Universidad de San Marcos, and they say that it will be
used not only in Tupe but in the whole Province for students in high
school so they may have a history of their own. It is time.<br>
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He drew three maps, one for before the Spanish, one for after and one
modern. And now he’s thinking of the next book, of all the more that
he’s remembered. <br>
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MJ<br>
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me I am becoming forgetful. More of the material/consumerism I see
today is becoming less important and I find myself thinking about the
many things from all my grandparents/elders I thought I had forgotten.
I realize now, they knew I would remember....<br>
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