<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Mahalo e Mary, I was just about to reply to this myself, but you beat me to it ;-)<div><br></div><div>The cost and a lack of flexibility in the order in which the lessons are presented were our major concerns and reasons we never did a Hawaiian version.</div><div><br></div><div>Rosetta does have a detailed list, brochure and cost estimates that describes the program, anyone interested should contact them directly for it.</div><div><br></div><div>Keola</div><div><br><div><div>On 2010 ʻAu. 25, at 11:36, Mary Hermes wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I did look into this, before the endangered language initiative, this is what they charged and how it played out:<br><br>Level one was a bit over $100,000, for level two something like $225,000 (this is the level they recommend going to) and level three another $100,000. You provide the content, they develop it into the product, you get 1,000 copies of the CD/DVD. I believe the group that does this gets to keep the IP on all of this, and you can always buy more of the CDs/DVDs for a price, don't remember if it was specified. <br>I will attach the cost estimates.<br>A few years ago they offered "endangered language" competition, and then must have had a grant and did it for much less.<br>This is the first finished product I have heard of. They had five tribes or so they granted, not sure about this.<br><br>In an effort to be transparent and disclose....<br>We made a similar product Ojibwemodaa! Through Transparent Languages (Claire you may know them, they are based in Nashua NH)<br>We are independent, Grassroots Indigenous Multimedia, non-profit. As an indigenous non-profit, our version is done for much less than estimates I am sending. Of course, we do not have any marketing budget, so we are completely unknown!<br>We are just starting to work for other tribes, starting with the Menominee -- and doing a bare bones run for just 2-3 minuet immersion movies in the software. We'll have a good cost estimate when we finish something for them.<br><br>Mii sa i'iw minik<span><RosetaStoneELP.pdf></span><br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>Mary Hermes, PhD<br>Associate Professor of Education<br>Eni-gikendaasoyang: Center for Indigenous Language and Culture Revitalization<br>University of Minnesota Duluth<br>715-462-4230<br><br><br><br>On Aug 25, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Interesting arrangement certainly. Thnx Claire, Phil<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Claire Bowern <<a href="mailto:clairebowern@gmail.com">clairebowern@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi Phil,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As I understand it, Rosetta is doing this for free as long as there is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a community commitment to providing the source materials (and they<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">need to demonstrate they can do so). Rosetta provides a certain amount<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of recording and editing time, the prompts, and the software, and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">funds the travel for the sound engineers to visit the community.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This is a total guess but I would guess that would run to $50,000<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">easily, probably more, since it would be billed at professional hourly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rates, not academic linguist rates.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Claire<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Claire Bowern<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Associate Professor<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Department of Linguistics<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Yale University<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">370 Temple St<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">New Haven, CT 06511<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">North American Dialects survey:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/">http://pantheon.yale.edu/~clb3/NorthAmericanDialects/</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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