seems to be the same with our Wendat/Wyandot people...Rolland,<div>During first contact with europeans in the 1500s and 1600s.</div><div>the british and the dutch, and the french were simply considered different tribes</div>
<div>or bands from further away.</div><div><br></div><div>Later when european descendants united as "americans" 1700s</div><div>and in Ohio ,very different tribes united to fight back, perhaps</div><div><b>race</b> issues began to supersede <b>tribal</b> / <b>nation</b> differences</div>
<div>and there became a need to group peoples by "color" to distinguish enemy</div><div>from non-enemies.</div><div><br></div><div>Wyandot then used a word that did literally mean "white people" <b>tinyomaha</b><br>
<div>which might be a rough literal translation of a british self description.</div><div>Interesting another word appears in a fun social dance song that is full of clan teases.</div><div>there's a line sung meaning <i>"you prefer those with black chins!"</i> </div>
<div>which some of us feel referred to those of european ancestry .</div><div><br></div><div>ske:noh</div><div>Richard </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Rolland Nadjiwon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikinakn@shaw.ca">mikinakn@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Very interesting Jim...most of our words for ‘Whiteman’ did not translate
as ‘Whiteman’. I think that was a ‘Whiteman's’ idea....</div>
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<div>In a message dated 4/18/2011 4:11:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:whalen@HASKINS.YALE.EDU" target="_blank">whalen@HASKINS.YALE.EDU</a> writes:</div>
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story--congrats!<br> Wasn't "pashtone" (< Boston) an Algonquian
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<div><font style="background-color:transparent" color="#000000" face="Arial">There
is a word in the Lenape (Delaware Indian) language, Pashtank, but it doesn't
just mean white man, but specifically it is a name for any person who doesn't
like Indians.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Jim</font></div>
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Rementer, director<br>Lenape Language Project<br>Bartlesville, OK,
74006<br>[<a href="http://www.talk-lenape.org" target="_blank">www.talk-lenape.org</a>] <br></font></div></font>
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