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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=370530722-19092011>Excellent suggestions
Jimmy. The mind wanders to many possibilities. I kind of like it special since
'turtle' is my clan. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left>wahjen</DIV>
<DIV align=left>rolland nadjiwon</DIV>
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<DIV align=left>You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it....</DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Zane
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> September-19-11 5:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ILAT]
Bears<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>great to hear form you too Jimmy!
<DIV>and a great example of indigenous thought communicated in story.</DIV>
<DIV>-richard-<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Huang,Chun <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:huangc20@ufl.edu">huangc20@ufl.edu</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">just to share a nicely done, and
inexpensive, "animation" that helps share traditional knowledge:</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium"><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2gvsL4tsQ"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2gvsL4tsQ</A></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px">If
you're also interested in the content, originally in Tagalog by Joey Ayala,
below is a rough "translation" (can't get all the spirits right, but helps
understanding), courtesy of Dr. Machel Malay: </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Helvetica; WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px">in
the song, the singer talks to the sea turtle, saying, 'sea turtle, the old
one, you carry your home around with you, don't you have anywhere to put it,
in the land you grew up in? With the slapping of the waves, and the currents
of centuries, you still continue to crawl in the mud. And yet in the deep
ocean you glimpse your freedom, bobbing and diving into the deeps. O sea
turtle the old one, could you please teach me the way to make the heavy [load]
lighter?'.... then he compares the sea turtle's situation to his own, asking
'sea turtle the old one, could we actually be kin? For even though I have a
home, I have no place to put it. The land I once knew is full of fences, made
even stronger by land titles and documents. O sea turtle the old one, I do not
understand, the land I came from is now a property'...</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">And I also do much-much appreciate the
original thread where this one branched out of. Good to hear from Richard, Dr.
Hardman, and Uncle Rolland.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">Jimmy</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium">now at DLSU-Manila</SPAN></P>
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<P>On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:07:01 -0700, Julian Lang wrote:</P>
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<DIV>There are several types of animation. And there is a wide range of
digital animation tools. So there are many questions to be answered
initially. How do you folks want the animated story to look like exactly?
Animated still images, cell animation, stop-frame? What I've discovered
about animation as a Native language person and as an animator is that
animation is incredibly labor intensive. And it can easily be pricey, If you
asked to animate all of the stories, it can easily cost you 60K. Perhaps 1
at a time?</DIV>
<DIV>Julian Lang</DIV>
<DIV>California</DIV>
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<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: x-small"><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></STRONG> Claire Bowern
<BR><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></STRONG> <A
href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU"
target=_blank>ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</A><BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG> Friday, September 16, 2011
7:04 AM<BR><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG>
Re: [ILAT] Bears<BR></SPAN><BR>Hi Tammy,<BR>Bardi people at One Arm Point
have had success with children's stories for the local school by having the
children dress up and play the parts of the characters. The older ones get
involved as narrators and scene design and the younger ones play the
characters. They've acted out the stories at school assemblies and videoed,
and photos are taken which are then made into books. It's certainly not the
same as animation but everyone got really into it, and it was lovely for the
elders to see the stories come alive with the kids. They were so pleased to
see it.<BR>Claire<BR><BR>On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Tammy DeCoteau
wrote:<BR><BR>> Mitakuyapi (My relatives),<BR>> <BR>> We have
discussed this topic in our office and we have mixed feelings about
it. <BR>> <BR>> In the drawer of my desk we have ten stories our
Treasured Elders made. Each story teaches a different value (show
respect, help others, etc.) and they feature a Turtle and a Dragonfly.
These are meant to be animated. Who knows, though, how long those
stories are going to sit in my desk drawer. Once I talked with an
animation company and do to a few minutes it was $60,000.00. <BR>>
<BR>> We have always felt that anything in the language is
beneficial. Perhaps it will create the spark in someone to become
passionate about their language. <BR>> <BR>> Tammy
DeCoteau<BR>> AAIA Native Language Program<BR>>
<BR><BR>Claire<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR>
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<DIV><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: x-small">"this language of mine,of yours,is who
we are and who we have been.It is where we find our stories,our lives,our
ancestors;and it should be where we find our future too" Simon Anaviapik
... Inuit</SPAN></I></DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://richardzanesmith.wordpress.com"
target=_blank>richardzanesmith.wordpress.com</A></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV>
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