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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi, all. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>jIshé (uncle) Rolland, I was struck by the similarities between
your story and my own. Then I realized that most of us on this list are
probably among nations where¡ªif we changed the indigenous names and locations¡ªthe
story is exactly the same. Perhaps this story repeats itself over and over
around the globe. For that, I am sad. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But I am grateful that we are all still here. Apparently, we are
not ¡°insignificant little indigenous people¡± or the ¡°big organizations¡± (including
governments) wouldn¡¯t be so interested in getting rid of us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Resa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Indigenous
Languages and Technology [mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rolland
Nadjiwon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ILAT] 2012 ELECTIONS: Tsai sa ys ¡® pseudo Hakka¡¯ label is
¡®unacceptable¡¯ (fwd link)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Thanks Jimmy for this
article. I had not seen it. I have now forwarded it to all my contacts many of
whom are so called 'First Nations' by the colonizers. Collectively, we are by
(I don't mind it too much...they had to give us an administrative
collective) UN definitions 'indigenous peoples' and each one of us has our
own language or dialect and name for ourselves in our own language regardless
of how we are designated by politics or anthropologists. Hundreds of our
languages have become extinct and all our cultures have been transgressed by
colonizers. We are all struggling to survive but it is extremely difficult when
so many outside experts know how we should do that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>This article strikes my
feelings as I am a member of the 'indigenous peoples' of the earth. I am a
member of the potowatomi peoples living in Canada. In reality, we are here
as political refugees from what is now the United States. From the Mississippi
river west was designated as 'Indian Territory' by the US government until gold
was discovered in the Black Hills and all the lands in that 'Indian
Territory' were opened for allotment to the 'settlers' and miners.
Our people were one of the first contacts in that western flood of land
grabbers and so we had to be moved. The army came and at rifle point
negotiated a peaceful invitation for our withdrawal to Kansas and
Oklahoma. Thousands of our people died on that long and horrible march...we remember
the stories. Some refused to relocate and took refuge at various places in out
lands, resisted and even fought back. The army came again, in force, and
re-issued the invitation for us to move out. Again, we refused. The army, in
full force, attempted to capture and relocate those of us(of course I wasn't
there) who refused to move. There were a large number of us and many of
the Kickapoo had joined us. Our numbers were too conspicuous and cumbersome and
so we divided ourselves. One group agreed to come up to Canada and
the other half agreed they would go to Mexico and the Kickapoo would go with
them. That is what we did and that is why our relatives are here in
Canada. However, in Canada, we fared not much better...we just didn't have the
army chasing us.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Our people were a very
large group and this was Ojibway lands so we divided up and were taken in
by many other Ojibway communities. That is where we are and how we are to this
day. Our culture, language and relationships were as devastated here in Canada
by the same colonial systems systematically imprisoning our peoples and the
Ojibway into their residential school systems and under the same laws that
outlawed our language, ceremonies and human status. We have survived...we are
surviving. We may be only a message in a bottle at the mercies of this
huge ocean of global discontent and destruction of indigenous peoples and the
earth, but, we are here and we know it. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Now a narrative:
Our people, potowatomi, translates loosely as 'fire makers/keepers'
because we carried the sacred fire of the 'council of the three fires'. We had
responsibility for that fire for the council...for keeping and maintaining it.
I was born into all that I am speaking of and that is how I can speak of it. <em>'Breast
Plate and Buckskin' </em>history books might tell you differently but they are
not potowatomi. Our story is not theirs or anyone else's to tell. Anyhow, I was
raised knowing this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Some years ago, the
potowatomi had a gathering on some of the land we first occupied when we came
to Canada up along the east side of Georgian Bay. I knew of it but I was not
able to make it to that gathering. A very, very close friend and relative,
potowatomi also, knew how important our history is and how important to me
personally. He was able to go to the meeting. When I returned, he came to visit
me with a gift. It was a piece of charcoal about the size of an acorn. He had
mounted it on a piece of wood inside a square plastic cover. When he gave it to
me as a gift, he told me what it is. At the gathering, the potowatomi who had
moved to Mexico, unbeknown to many of us who came to Canada, had taken the
original fire with them to Mexico. When they heard of our gathering in Canada,
they sent up the fire for out gathering. That small piece of charcoal 'is' everything
I am telling about.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>When our people were
split up during that part of our our history around the 1840s, the group
to Mexico took the fire with them and kept that fire, our fire, until this
day...over 170 years. That small, black, insignificant piece of charcoal is
imbued with the cosmological existence of our potowatomi people. That is who I
am and why I can (perhaps an assumption) understand many of
the survival issues of our indigenous peoples on a global scale. Our
indigenous peoples, globally, are related in so many ways but that is another
story. A short one...lol. I met Huang Chun, Jimmy on this list a few years ago.
We befriended each other and shared many online conversations with each other.
In his traditions and in mine, and there are common reasons for it, Jimmy
writes to me as 'uncle' and I refer to him as 'my nephew'. That is an
incredible honor and I do brag about it to my family. I could tell more about
how our connections were interfered with by Canadian and American authorities
but I think Jimmy lives under somewhat more 'hateful' conditions than I do here
in the Americas and so it is much to risky. All we ever did is to assist each
other in sharing our cultures. I paraphrase how Jimmy put it, ...why
would such big organizations be interested in a couple of insignificant little
indigenous people like us.... I couldn't shed any light on his statement since
I don't understand either but it appears to be happening on a global scale. So,
my nephew Jimmy' I am so glad we met...at least cybernetically...perhaps one
day in person. I guess, by the evidence, we are a part of a very important and
elite group of indigenous peoples globally...why else would they not like us
and give us such a difficult time in our surviving.<br>
<br>
-------<br>
wahjeh<br>
rolland nadjiwon<br>
___________________________________________<br>
<strong>War does not determine who is right - only who is left...</strong><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Indigenous Languages and Technology [</span><a
href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</span></a><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>] On Behalf Of Huang,Chun<br>
Sent: November-16-11 4:50 AM<br>
To: ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: [ILAT] 2012 ELECTIONS: Tsai says ¡® pseudo Hakka¡¯ label is
¡®unacceptable¡¯ (fwd link)<br>
<br>
And Tsai says that if she is elected the president, she would make a formal,
public apology to the indigenous peoples in Taiwan on behalf of the ROC
government.<br>
<br>
We could only hope so.<br>
<br>
The KMT party, which founded ROC, and its candidate, Ma, who is the current
president, have not made such a promise.<br>
<br>
Jimmy<br>
<br>
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:36:57 -0700, Phillip E Cash Cash wrote:<br>
> Tue, Nov 15, 2011 - Page 3<br>
><br>
> 2012 ELECTIONS: Tsai says ¡®pseudo Hakka¡¯ label is ¡®unacceptable¡¯<br>
><br>
> By Chris Wang / Staff Reporter<br>
> Taiwan<br>
><br>
> Labeling her a ¡°pseudo Hakka¡± for her inability to speak Hakka<br>
> fluently is unacceptable, since language proficiency should never be<br>
> judged as a ¡°cardinal sin,¡± Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)<br>
> Chairperson Tsai Ing-wen (</span><span lang=JA>²ÌÓ¢ÎÄ</span><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>) said yesterday.<br>
><br>
> She said the Chinese Nationalist Party¡¯s (KMT) ¡°crude language<br>
> policies¡± of the past was the reason her Hakka was not more fluent.<br>
><br>
> Access full article below:<br>
> </span><a
href="http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/11/15/2003518359"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/11/15/2003518359</span></a><br>
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