interesting Phil, especially about the identity and place connection.<div><br></div><div>I'll say that there is a noticeable twang in some Okies learning their indigenous languages.</div><div>Some can't get beyond it no matter how hard they try. </div>
<div><br></div><div>We had a visiting a Quebec Wendat woman who's involved in wendat language revitalization.</div><div>when she heard the kids (here in NE Okl.) singing in Wyandot she said "they sound like Americans!"</div>
<div>I said, "thats funny, when i hear you speaking Wendat ,it sounds like French!" (we both laughed)</div><div><br>I'm guessing second languages will always be influenced by the speakers first language.</div>
<div>its why its so important to bring kids up with more than one language EARLY.<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">its also much harder to reach consensus for those of us rousing dormant languages.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">when there ARE NO ELDERS to pester us by demanding we "say it right"</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Richard </div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Phillip E Cash Cash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cashcash@email.arizona.edu" target="_blank">cashcash@email.arizona.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I thought the news article was interesting for a number of reasons. Probably the most obvious one is how a speech pattern/dialect achieves a kind of symbolic status when it is associated with things like "identity" and "belonging." Similar experiences can be found in endangered language communities. <br>
<br>Too, I have always been curious if heritage language speakers in Oklahoma and surrounding southern areas maintain a natural distinction between speaking a southern American English dialect/accent and their own native language or if they are somehow mixed with a "twang" (whatever that might be). The same interesting questions Richard poses apply here as well. <br>
<br>I know for many indigenous communities, it is quite easy to hear when a native language speaker speaks with an English accent. Some older teachers/elders tend to mercilessly correct their student learners on this. But then, is it really an accent in this case or is it just simply the consequences of acquiring a second language? <br>
<br>Just a few thoughts to add on here.<br>Phil<br>
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