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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012>Thank you both...Chun
(Jimmy) Huang, Bernadette Adley-SantaMaria for both your reminders and
cautions. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012>The statement 'language
is more important than land' makes sense and bears application to a
language which did not 'grow out of' and is not 'tied' into any land.
The assumptions of universality is innate to English since English is
an agglomeration of other languages and, in effect, has no 'home
lands(earth)' out of which it emerged. It is a portable
language constructed out of trade relations of other 'home lands'
languages for the purpose of 'getting the best of the bargain'. I realize this
brief post is a 'nutshell' post with far more than I have included or
touched on.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012>I do appreciate the
myriad of information and ideas I receive from ILAT
postings though, often, it does not appear to be so in my
responses.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=274464305-13092012>P.S. I really like your
signatures 'Siraya of Taiwan' and 'White Mountain Apache' right on. The Great
Grandmother of my two eldest Grandchildren was a fullblood(whatever that means)
Apache. So, they are Potowatomi, Ojibway, Odawa, Apache, Spanish American...ok,
ok...English too in one of the closets...jeez I hate being
honest...lol.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left>wahjeh</DIV>
<DIV align=left>rolland nadjiwon</DIV>
<DIV align=left>________________ </DIV>
<DIV align=left>Harper is a joke and 'pansy' to anyone and any country that will
act as his 'sin eater'...</DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Huang,Chun<BR><B>Sent:</B> September-12-12 9:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ILAT] Language more important
than land - academic (fwd link)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Thank you, Bernadette Adley-SantaMaria</P>
<P>I recommend Hardman's article below where, through studying Jaqaru, she
explains how land is indeed, as you point out, intertwined with language
(both being parts of the whole): if you lose one, you lose the other.
Hardman also demonstrates how English, especially the English cultural thinking
as manifested its three major linguistic postulates, can often do damage to the
indigenous/local. One of the English postulates Hardman identifies is "ranking
through comparative/absolute," which the original article in question here
exemplifies very well for us: "<SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><STRONG>Language (is) more important than
land!</STRONG></SPAN></SPAN>" Really, what's the point of ranking the importance
of language against the importance of land anyway??? Many English users,
unfortunately, seem unable to escape such ranking mentality.</P>
<P>Hardman, M. J. (1994) “’And if we lose our names, then what about our land?’,
or, what price development?” in L. H. Turner and H. M. Sterk (eds)
<EM>Differences that Make a Difference: Examining the Assumptions in Gender
Research</EM> (pp. 152-161). Westport & London: Bergin & Garvey.</P>
<P>Let me or Dr. Hardman know if you can't find a copy. I believe she wouldn't
mind sharing.</P>
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<P>Chun (Jimmy) Huang</P>
<P>Siraya of Taiwan</P>
<P>Assistant Professor, University of Guam</P>
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<P>On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:26:58 -0700, BSantaMaria wrote:</P>
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<DIV>I strongly disagree with the last statement of paragraph: "Language
& culture are intertwined & because of this it's impossible to see how
land can be seen as more important." It is because of how intertwined
everything is in our Indigenous ideologies/philosophies including especially
our lands, natural resources, languages, cultures, social and economic issues,
etc., etc., that is not understood by non-Natives or non-Indig. people that is
an issue in many aspects of language & culture revitalization
efforts. I believe they do not "get it" because they do not speak
an Indigenous language that speaks intimately of our connections to our
homelands within our speech/terminology. Speaking our languages fluently
also engages/intimately involves our lands and resources that come from it,
without these, our languages would be missing a vital link to our cultures,
some of us even believe that "our land is us" in our language, is our
mother. Thinking of land as property with fiscal value is the antithesis
of some of our views on it and that usually comes from the western world
capitalist view.</DIV>
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<DIV>These are also the reasons why I came to an MA thesis conclusion back in
the mid-1990's that language revitalization efforts involves "Wholistic
Healing for our Native People" to revive their languages and I meant in all
areas of Native life including returning to a belief in our
cosmologies/spiritality beliefs, traditional socio-economic patterns,
etc. It seems that recent articles and books on these issues are
arriving at similar conclusions. These reasons are also why I saw the
field of linguistics as lacking in considering these aspects of Native
people when studying our languages focusing so narrowly on a certain
aspect of them and mostly benefiting themselves.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm also going to request info from those on this list that know of some
books and titles/articles that I can review pertaining to what I brought out
above.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ahiye'e (Thank you,</DIV>
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<DIV>Bernadette Adley-SantaMaria</DIV>
<DIV>White Mountain Apache</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Phillip E Cash Cash
<SPAN><<A
href="mailto:cashcash@email.arizona.edu">cashcash@email.arizona.edu</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif"><STRONG>Language more important than land
- academic<BR></STRONG><BR>Updated at 7:19 pm on 10 September
2012<BR><BR>Linguistics expert Ghil'ad Zuckermann says that the loss of
language is more damaging for indigenous peoples than the loss of their
land.<BR><BR>Access full article below:<BR><A
href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/115509/language-more-important-than-land-academic">http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/115509/language-more-important-than-land-academic</A><BR></SPAN></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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