<div>To all responders:</div><div> </div><div>Ahiye'e (Thank you!), for info on article/book & relevant discussion/ideas--this topic is an example of how this listserve should involve everything relevant to Indigenous people and their languages.....I hope we continue such discussions....</div>
<div> </div><div> </div><div>Bernadette<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Richard Zane Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rzs@wildblue.net" target="_blank">rzs@wildblue.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Thanks Rolland and thanks MJ!<br>look forward to reading it.<br>
>From our Wyandot removal, actually ALL the small nations removed to this NE corner of OKL.<br>we are very likely some of the most assimilated people groups. Also among the most belittled, <br>
and shamed, from all sides for not surviving as "real Indians" ( another big topic entirely)<br>There is VERY likely a corolation between land loss (legalized ethnic cleansing), <br>and depression, alcoholism, poverty, the loss of identity,as well as the obvious, language and ceremony.<br>
<br>Indigenous people groups, leaving homelands behind are in some way "reconstructed" people groups.<br>In our past captives were expected to leave behind the identity they were born into,<br>to merge into their adopted clan and phratry. In many regards we are captives taken to <br>
a foreign land - trout raised in a pet store...<br><br>unę́h,<br>Richard<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Rolland Nadjiwon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikinakn@shaw.ca" target="_blank">mikinakn@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>P.P.S. to my post:
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>Hardman, M. J. (1994)
“’And if we lose our names, then what about our land?’, or, what price
development?” in L. H. Turner and H. M. Sterk (eds) <i>Differences that Make a
Difference: Examining the Assumptions in Gender Research</i> (pp. 152-161).
Westport & London: Bergin & Garvey.</span></div>
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</div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><a href="http://plaza.ufl.edu/hardman/DTPacket/linguisticpostulate.pdf" target="_blank">http://plaza.ufl.edu/hardman/DTPacket/linguisticpostulate.pdf</a>
in the .pdf format it is pages 34-39(equals 151-161)</span></div><div>
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<div align="left">wahjeh</div>
<div align="left">rolland nadjiwon</div>
<div align="left">________________ </div>
<div align="left">Harper is a joke and 'pansy' to anyone and any country that will
act as his 'sin eater'...</div>
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<font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Indigenous Languages and Technology
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Huang,Chun<br><b>Sent:</b> September-12-12 9:35 PM<br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ILAT] Language more important
than land - academic (fwd link)<br></font><br></div>
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<p>Thank you, Bernadette Adley-SantaMaria</p>
<p>I recommend Hardman's article below where, through studying Jaqaru, she
explains how land is indeed, as you point out, intertwined with language
(both being parts of the whole): if you lose one, you lose the other.
Hardman also demonstrates how English, especially the English cultural thinking
as manifested its three major linguistic postulates, can often do damage to the
indigenous/local. One of the English postulates Hardman identifies is "ranking
through comparative/absolute," which the original article in question here
exemplifies very well for us: "<span><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b>Language (is) more important than
land!</b></span></span>" Really, what's the point of ranking the importance
of language against the importance of land anyway??? Many English users,
unfortunately, seem unable to escape such ranking mentality.</p>
<p>Hardman, M. J. (1994) “’And if we lose our names, then what about our land?’,
or, what price development?” in L. H. Turner and H. M. Sterk (eds)
<i>Differences that Make a Difference: Examining the Assumptions in Gender
Research</i> (pp. 152-161). Westport & London: Bergin & Garvey.</p>
<p>Let me or Dr. Hardman know if you can't find a copy. I believe she wouldn't
mind sharing.</p>
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<p>Chun (Jimmy) Huang</p>
<p>Siraya of Taiwan</p>
<p>Assistant Professor, University of Guam</p></div></div>
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<p><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:10.5pt">"…revitalizing
our language is really just an act of returning to what we are supposed to be.
It is like a fish returning to the water, breathing and living once
again. "</span><font size="1"><span style="font-family:Georgia">Xh'unei
Lance E. Twitchell (Tlingit)</span></font></p>
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