kweh Rolland,<br>I guess we'll never know the influences our life of work will do,but i guess our ancestors didn't either.<br>One of the most discouraging obstacles towards language and cultural revitalization I see is a new growing apathy<br>
that i might even call <b>PRS </b> - <i>Post Revitalization Syndrome</i>.<br>its when much of the rolled up sleeve work, the "info" is established, published - everything needed to install language nests, <br>ceremonial and cultural revival, when we've transcribed hours of ancient wax cylinder recordings and made clear audio "replicas"<br>
and the response is "well isn't that nice" and people smile go on their way as if we were behind glass, peering at us as a museum <br>specimen or a reenactor at some kind of "ndn event" to take the kids to see on their way to get hotdogs at the amusement park.<br>
When our indigenous ancestry has been reduced to a "but will we have fun?" entertainment....we are in serious trouble.<br><br>We can't even begin to comprehend the life sucking force of assimilation while high on the fumes of modern extreme comforts.<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>-Richard<br>Wyandotte Oklahoma<br><br><br>On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Rolland Nadjiwon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikinakn@shaw.ca" target="_blank">mikinakn@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>Thank you for the
affirmation of my idea Chun Huang. To this day, I meet the now parents and
grandparents of those 'teacher' times in their community. One of the comments by
a now PhD holder was, in paraphrase, I don't know what you did to us Rolland,
your students were the first ones to go to College and University. I
reflected hard on his comment as we visited our recollections in a
restaurant so far from his home community and, obviously, long after we
departed. I had no idea 46 years ago how those songs and music would determine
their future. They do thank me but I am not sure about that. I have to
wonder how many generations they will remain 'educated' anishinabeh before their
descendants become merely 'educated'. </span></div>
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<div align="left">wahjeh</div>
<div align="left">rolland nadjiwon</div>
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<div align="left">"We were elected to do the people's business, and we intend to
them!" Premiere Christy Clark, B.C. [whether or not they like it]</div>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU" target="_blank">ILAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Huang,Chun<br><b>Sent:</b> November-17-12 7:44 PM<div class="im"><br><b>To:</b>
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<p>I have no intention to redirect the topic. But Uncle Rolland's words
reminded me of an inglorious past that I'd like to share. This happened more
than 25 years ago, when I was of the elementary school age in Taiwan learning
English. I, and many other kids in my generation growing up at that time,
learned English by counting "little Indians" through the infamous nursery
rhymes (the preferred variety in Taiwan is American English). The learning was
certainly effective, as the song is still stuck in my head almost three
decades later...</p>
<p>Chun (Jimmy) Huang</p>
<p>UOG</p>
<p>On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:57:49 -0500, Rolland Nadjiwon wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span>Berni
SantaMaria...thank you so much for your words...your reference is to a very
interesting and worthy exchange of ideas and thoughts...megwetch everyone. I
can use a lot of those discussions. I used music and poetry in a non-English
first nation community in 1966 to learn English. It worked very well...maybe
too well in retrospect.</span></div>
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<div align="left">wahjeh</div>
<div align="left">rolland nadjiwon</div>
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night." </span></div>
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