Latin and Slavonic for `moon'

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In a message dated 4/6/99 4:57:24 PM, mcv at wxs.nl wrote:

<<The origin of ksia,dz "prince", like Russian knjaz' etc. is
Germanic *kuning(az) (> *kUne~gI > *kUne~dzI) "king".>>

The Ls of SL have spoken.  I am wrong.

However!...8-)

Based on a message dated 4/6/99 8:16:37 PM, where roborr at uottawa.ca wrote:
<< In Polish  *kn+FV or J > *ks
ksiezyc, ksiezy, ksiezna etc. < *kne(d)z, Russian knjaz'
ksiega < *kniga, Russian kniga>>

So the source is really Russian!

I'd like to suggest that the word did not pass from Gothic to Polish
but from Gothic to Russian and then to Polish....

Because, I think we don't really ever see directly kn (Ger) > ks (Pol).

We do see knife (mentioned as a possible non-IE word in German)> noz (pol)
We do see "knykiec" (knuckle), "knut" (knout), 'kostka" (knuckle, knot),
"kolano" (knee), 'galka' (knurl), 'guz' (knob, node), "kolanko" (node),
"kurban" (knoll), 'gniesc' (knead), "gryzc" (gnaw), "gnejs" (gneiss), "gnu"
(gnu),  BUT "kieczec" (kneel) (but still not "ks").

So without more I propose a full circle .... kon'(horse) > kon-ni-ka >
kuning(gaz)> knjaz > kiesyc - remember, for want of a horse a kingdom was
lost....

Knight to Oueen 4.

Regards,
Steve Long