borrowing pronouns

[maher, johnpeter]

[ moderator re-formatted ]

1. The formulation "looks less appealing" does not amount to a demonstration or
refutation, but is an initial call to reconsider, verify or disprove the
proposition. Go to it, muchachos!

2. It has been sagely noted that dictionary entry forms are a only convenient
way to access lexical items in books, but, given the particular traditions of
entering nominatives stems or whatever, it is necessary to consider forms that
give more information. It is just as wise to remember that we do not walk
around uttering isolated words, and to be aware that that words are for the
most part extracted from syntax, that most or our word are back-formations from
experienced syntagmata. Hence:

3. What is the history of gender concord between these feminine head nouns and
accompanying adjectives?
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Max W Wheeler wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, maher, johnpeter wrote:

> > "Vuestra Merced" is a folk etymology.

> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal wrote:

> > > "maher, johnpeter" <jpmaher at neiu.edu> wrote:

> > > >In addition, Castilian has "Vd/Usted" from Arabic "ustaeth" 'teacher;

> > > 1. Surely ...

> > Whoah! --- The rhetorical emission  "surely" [vel sim : "clearly, certainly
> > vel sim] is hot air emitted in the absence of argument, evidence or
> > homework.

> > Spell out the phonetic developments and refute the ascription to Arabic

> Well, part of the argument involves, would you believe it?, some
> comparative linguistics. Corresponding to Sp. <usted>, Ptg has <voce^>,
> and Catalan has <voste`>. In renaissance Spanish we have not only
> <usted> but also <vuesarced>, <voac'e>, <vuce'>, <vuced>, <vusted>; and
> in mod. Sp dialects (including America) <buste'>. With all those,
> alongside, of course, of the perfectly well attested <vuestra merced>
> Cat. <vostra merce`> the similarity between Mod Sp <usted> and Ar
> <usta:d> begins to look rather less interesting.

> I go along with Miguel CV on this, and the accusation that he hadn't
> done his homework is gratuitously offensive. If JPM had done his, he'd
> have known the sort of facts I mention in the previous paragraph.

> Max
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