Latin mecum, tecum, etc.

Lionel Bonnetier leo at easynet.fr
Mon Jun 25 16:52:53 UTC 2001


petegray wrote:

>> Is there any obvious reason why -cum is the only instance of the archaic
>> system?

> It only occurs with personal pronouns, and nowhere else.   The most
> interesting suggestion I have heard is that it began with an avoidance of
> the sequence cunn-.   cum nobis could sound like forms of cunnus, from which
> comes the good English word cunnilingus.  Hence nobiscum, thence to other
> personal pronouns.

Ha, not only *wlkos was not allowed on the hunt,
but cunn- was taboo too in rhetorics... But what
about "cum nostribus (...)" or "cum novis (...)"
or similar? Maybe less frequent.

>> May *kom (cum) and *ko (cis) and *kwe (-que) be related etymologically
>> around the idea of "here-nearby-with"?

> No.  Latin cum has a good PIE history in *kom or *km, and -que has a
> different one in *-kwe.  (different consonant, different vowel)

No *ko-we > *kwe pattern envisionable? (*-we being
just a dummy placeholder here).



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