second language

Annette Karmiloff-Smith a.karmiloff-smith at ich.ucl.ac.uk
Thu Dec 6 16:49:51 UTC 2001


Dear Fred,
Thank you so much for those very thoughtful comments.  No, Kyra is
not planning to change her linguistic interaction with Misha.
English has now become her native tongue too.  But the playgroup may
just expose his ear to French and be useful for their summer holidays
with Kyra's father in France.  Kyra was worried about any possible
effects on his now rapidly improving English.
Thanks again,
Annette

At 10:28 am -0500 6/12/01, Fred Genesee wrote:
>Annette:
>
>There is, as Barbara points out, no research evidence concerning
>bilingual/second language acquistion of children with speech impediment so
>it is difficult to be conclusive about how such children would fare if
>introduced to a second language around 4; but, it is also the case, that
>there is no evidence to suggest that all such children would be burdened or
>slowed down by L2 exposure once the L1 is in place.
>
>I think an additional factor to consider is exposure -- how much French
>and for how long would your grandson be exposed to French? In particular,
>is there real incentive value for his learning it -- that is, would French
>be useful for  him in his extended family or neighborhood so that his
>French language learning would be supported more broadly? Simply exposing
>children to some L2 when it is not likely that their exposure will be rich
>or long enough for them to become competent in it may not be advisable,
>especially when children have language-related impairments, not because
>such children cannot cope with an L2 but because a little bit of language
>exposure may be a waste of time and cause some frustation. It is a matter
>of WHY would the child learn French. In Montreal, for example, where both
>French and English are useful on a daily basis with most people, there is
>considerable merit in giving all children the opportunity to learn French
>and English; to not do so would deprive some of them of a life-skill. This
>means that there are children with impairments who might be exposed to an
>L2  with good reason in Montreal, but not so in a monolingual setting.
>
>My own professional and personal experience over many years suggests to me
>that bilingual acquisition and second language acquisition need to be taken
>seriously and dabbling in other languages may not be useful -- I do not
>wish to imply that this is the case with your grandson; this is a more
>general comment. In fact, it sounds like your grandson could have some
>opportunities to use French with cousins on his mother's side. If this is
>true, then it makes French daycare more meaningful and useful. For me, this
>could be the deciding factor since there are no a priori reasons to think
>that he would have serious linguistic or cognitive problems with French.
>
>	With respect to the mother's language, many children are very
>resistant to
>parents changing their languages since they have established an initimate
>bond with the parent, and language is a fundamental part of that
>relationship -- thus, changing the language used by the mother with the
>child can upset the relationship.
>
>	Knowing another language is often a life-long advantage, but one has to
>look at the immediate circumstances when ascertain whether exposure to an
>L2 is sufficient and meaningful enough to make the decision to exposure
>young children to another language after their L1 is in place.
>
>Fred
>
>At 09:27 AM 12/6/01 +0000, Annette Karmiloff-Smith wrote:
>>A personal question to blingualism experts please.  My grandson is
>>almost 4.  He is for the moment monolingual - English - and has a
>>slight speech impediment for which he has speech therapy.  It seems
>>to be entirely at the articulatory level as far as I can see.  He had
>>a hearing problem for some time and now has grommets and hears far
>>better.  My daughter is bilingual French-English and would like her
>>son to learn French too.  She feels that she herself should continue
>  >speaking English to him.  But there is a French playgroup he could
>>now join and he does anyway hear French from time to time in his
>>environment.  The question is would it be wise/unwise for him to
>>start hearing another language at this time, when he is still having
>>speech therapy for English?
>>Any advice most welcome.
>>Annette
>>--
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>>Institute of Child Health,
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