babbling

[Annette Karmiloff-Smith]

thanks everyone for all the information.  I see everyone has cc'd 
Childes so I won't collate the replies.
Many thanks,
Annette

At 16:13 +0100 12/9/06, Fletcher , Paul wrote:
>I think that was Michael Halliday,in 'Learning how to mean'  
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: info-childes at mail.talkbank.org [mailto:info-childes at mail.talkbank.org]
>On Behalf Of Alison Crutchley
>Sent: 12 September 2006 15:54
>Cc: info-childes at mail.talkbank.org
>Subject: RE: babbling
>
>Wasn't it Dwight Bolinger who claimed that his daughter's first word was
>'Dvorak'?
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>............................................................................
>Dr Alison Crutchley
>a.crutchley at hud.ac.uk
>http://www.hud.ac.uk/mh/english/research/ac.htm
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>From: info-childes at mail.talkbank.org on behalf of Lise Menn
>Sent: Tue 12/09/2006 3:23 PM
>To: kampen
>Cc: a.karmiloff at ich.ucl.ac.uk; info-childes at mail.talkbank.org
>Subject: Re: babbling
>
>
>Except, of course, that Jakobson had no independent data on the neural
>control of any aspect of articulation - and we still don't, to my knowledge
>- so his explanation is better considered as a speculation.
>Lists of 'first words'  in English include 'byebye' - which fits the
>babble-like pattern - and 'no', which clearly has motivation from sources
>other than ease of articulation.
>Reportage of first words has the problems that adults have expectations
>about what the 'first word' is culturally supposed to be, and that observers
>can differ greatly as to 'what counts' as an attempt at a word, depending on
>how clear the context is.
>Lise Menn
>
>On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:34 AM, kampen wrote:
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>
>		Someone has asked me whether it is true that babies' first
>word is
>		Daddy and whether this is because the articulation position
>of D is
>		easiest?  not sure either is true but would appreciated
>comments
>		from those who study this area.  Are the words for
>Daddy/Papa etc.
>		and Mummy/Maman etc. easier because there is no change of
>place of
>		articulation?  All thoughts on the topic most appreciated.
>		thanks
>		Annette K-S
>
>
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>	Jakobson (1942) already noticed this and had an analysis in terms of
>	feature-oppositions and hierarchy in learning steps due to neural
>control
>	of the articulation apparatus. Jakobson developed the thesis that
>the
>	hierarchy in language acquisition manifested itself as well in
>language
>	history, as in a downward movement in aphasia as in the spread of
>	typological features.
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>	Jacqueline
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>"Shirley Says: Living with Aphasia"
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>http://spot.colorado.edu/~menn/Shirley4.pdf
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>Japanese version of "Shirley Says"
>http://www.bayget.com/inpaku/kinen9.htm
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>Academy of Aphasia
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>http://www.academyofaphasia.org/
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