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<P><FONT SIZE=2>But some bilinguals use e.g. English prosody in English and French prosody in French. And others have almost completely lost their first language apart from the accent (including the prosody).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Katie Alcock</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Katie Alcock, DPhil</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Madalena Cruz-Ferreira [<A HREF="mailto:ellmcf@nus.edu.sg">mailto:ellmcf@nus.edu.sg</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: 07 November 2002 02:28</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: info-childes@mail.talkbank.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: RE: Question to the community</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Mental arithmetic works for me too, innumerate as I am.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> But wouldn't prosody/intonation define your dominant </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> language? If prosody is the basics of basics in child </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> language acquisition and if you are defined by what you do </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> spontaneously, like left-handedness, then is your dominant </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> language must be the one whose prosody you use regardless of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> what words and syntax you're speaking. This is one reason why </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I have some difficulty with matrix vs. embedded approaches to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> multilingualism.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Madalena</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Madalena Cruz-Ferreira</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ellmcf@nus.edu.sg</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Charles Watkins [<A HREF="mailto:charles.watkins@wanadoo.fr">mailto:charles.watkins@wanadoo.fr</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Thu 11/7/2002 11:58 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: lnpnwh; info-childes; Ellina Chernobilsky; Annette </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Karmiloff-Smith </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Cc: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: Re: Question to the community</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I agree about mental arithmetic; but only because I am </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> barely numerate, like</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> many English arts graduates (you too?!). However </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> bilingual mathematicians I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> know claim they don't do mental arithmetic in either </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> language but</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> conceptually, which makes sense, I suppose, if your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> numeracy skills are as</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> advanced as most people's verbal skills - "which </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> language do you think in?"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> doesn't make a lot of sense as a question to me.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Charles Watkins.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Message d'origine-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> De : lnpnwh <lnpnwh@leeds.ac.uk></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> : Charles Watkins <charles.watkins@wanadoo.fr>; info-childes</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <info-childes@mail.talkbank.org>; Ellina Chernobilsky</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <ellinac@email.eden.rutgers.edu>; Annette Karmiloff-Smith</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <a.karmiloff-smith@ich.ucl.ac.uk></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Date : mardi 5 novembre 2002 09:22</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Objet : Re: Question to the community</FONT>
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