Dr. Gleason, <br>Your comments and response on this site are a joyful confirmation of the value of open online exchanges such as this one. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge, experiences, and insight. <br>Susan<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Jean Berko Gleason <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gleason@bu.edu" target="_blank">gleason@bu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font size="+1">Hi Jeri Just to agree with everyone, I've always
said/written Broca's aphasia, Wernicke's aphasia, etc. and never
without the possessive. </font>Since everyone agrees, I don't
see the point of putting (Broca aphasia) in parens or anywhere
else. Americans DO use the possessive form. I also agree that
Down syndrome (and not Down's) is the term. No one is probably
going to go down the list you include and make definitive
statements about each term, so my suggestion is to find a
publication online that we all read and use and find editorially
acceptable and use their editorial criteria. The medical
dictionary you refer to is apparently at odds with the community
that writes about these conditions. So it is not acceptable. <br>
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When I edit general things, I keep a tab open for the New York
Times, for instance, and when in doubt I do a search on the term
in the Times. I tried this for Broca's aphasia, and found that
every Times article (many of them) used the possessive. The term
'Broca aphasia' turned up in various sidebar ads from people
offering treatment. If you don't feel the Times is a sufficient
authority, you might be able to do something similar with a
Journal like Brain and Language, though there may not be a really
simple way to search through all issues as there is with the
Times. But the Times and the journals in our field have already
established conventions on the use of these terms, so it should be
reasonable to stick with authority. <br>
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My favorite 'correction' from a copy editor occurred many years
ago. I had written an article on child language, and the editor
changed every instance of the term to 'childish language', and
attached snarky comments to me about my failure to understand
English grammar. <br>
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Jean<br>
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Professor Emerita
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On 8/29/2012 10:58 AM, Jeri Jaeger wrote:<br>
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I'm helping John Laver (Edinburgh) out with his massive encyclopedic dictionary of language, as the editor for the Neurolinguistics section. John believes that there is a difference between what Americans call various aphasias, syndromes, etc. compared to the UK. So his entries read: Broca (UK Broca's) aphasia, for example, indicating that Americans use the non-possessive form. He is using the Stedman's Dictonary, which is indeed published in Philadelphia as his source; however, this is a medical dictionary designed (as I understand it) for practicing physicians. Below I've listed all the cases in the dictionary in the Neuro section as well as some from the Pathology section. While I've definitely heard people say 'Down Syndrome' and 'Lou Gehrig Disease', I've NEVER heard anyone say Broca Aphasia or Broca Area or Wernicke Aphasia, etc. Possibly there is a distinction in American usage between aphasic syndromes and other pathological syndromes. I would be very grate!
ful for
your input on this. I'm thinking about suggesting that he use the possessive forms for the main entries, but put the non-possessive forms in parentheses afterwards, without indicating this as a regional difference, as in: Broca's aphasia (or Broca aphasia). But perhaps this would not be appropriate for things like Friedreich ataxia, for example. Please let me know what you think.
Hope all is well with all of you,
and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Jeri Jaeger
Aran-Duchenne disease
Bell palsy
Broca aphasia
Broca area
Bastian aphasia
Erb disease
Erb palsy
Erb-Duchenne paralysis
Friedreich ataxia
Friedreich disease
Frohlich syndrome
Gerstmann syndrome
Kussmaul aphasia
Landau-Kleffner syndrome
Parkinson disease
Pick-Wernicke aphasia
Pick disease
Potzel syndrome
Ribot's law/rule (he only has this in the posessive)
Wallenburg syndrome
Wernicke aphasia
Wernicke area
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