<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">You should use COCA or BNC depending on whether you're looking at a American or British variety<br><br>There are different ways of counting frequency, and you might not be interested in all the material in COCA/BNC, so be aware of the proportions of genres, speakers etc.<br>
<br>If you want to learn more about frequencies in the BNC, go here: <a href="http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/using/index.xml?ID=other#freq">http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/using/index.xml?ID=other#freq</a><br><br>/Hedvig<br></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-06-05 17:42 GMT+02:00 Philip Dale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dalep@unm.edu" target="_blank">dalep@unm.edu</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks so much. I should have been clearer at the outset. In this case, I’m interested in adult-adult speech (for adult-child speech, as in Goodman, Dale &
Li, 2008, we used a FREQ analysis of CHILDES corpora).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">COCA looks the best, as it actually has word frequencies. On first examination, BNC is just the corpora, and you’d have to do the analyses yourself. But I might
be wrong here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Philip<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hedvig Skirgård<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 05, 2014 9:29 AM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: list of common words<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<a href="http://corpus.byu.edu/coca/" target="_blank">http://corpus.byu.edu/coca/</a><br>
British National Corpus (BNC <a href="http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2014-06-05 17:23 GMT+02:00 Philip Dale <<a href="mailto:dalep@unm.edu" target="_blank">dalep@unm.edu</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hedvig Skirgård<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 05, 2014 9:22 AM</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: list of common words<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You want adult-adult frequencies right? Why not just use the COCA or BNC?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">We did what the earlier posting suggested, filtered our child-addressed speech samples through this in CLAN (e.g., -s@lexrare), and then additionally
cleaned up proper names for a proportion of maternal/paternal input that consisted of relatively rare words.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#993366">Nan</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Philip Dale<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes, I’m pretty sure this is it; thanks, Nan. Did you use software to determine frequencies?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nan Bernstein Ratner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: list of common words</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I think this is what folks want. My memory is that it was prepared by Patton Tabors of Harvard Grad School of Ed; we have used it in a few studies. I
hope this attachment will go through. I do not know if there are others; this is the one we have used.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Best to all,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Nan</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erika Hoff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:info-childes@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">info-childes@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: list of common words</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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by exclusion to measure the use of ‘rare’ words. Can someone point me to that list? Even better, is there software available to scan a passage and compute the number of common vs. rare wrods? Many thanks.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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