From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 8 00:22:52 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:22:52 -0500 Subject: [language] Humans emerged out of Africa again and again Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fe20020307rh.htm -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:52:27 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:09:35 +0000 From: Ian Pitchford Reply-To: Ian Pitchford Organization: http://human-nature.com/ To: evolutionary-psychology at yahoogroups.com Public release date: 6-Mar-2002 Contact: Tony Fitzpatrick tony_fitzpatrick at aismail.wustl.edu 314-935-5272 Washington University in St. Louis Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again St. Louis, March 6, 2002, 1 p.m. CST - Analyses of recently derived human genetic trees by Alan R. Templeton, Ph.D, of Washington University in St Louis, show that there were at least two major waves of human migration out of Africa. DNA evidence suggests also that these wanderers bred with the people they encountered, rather than replaced them, in a "make- love-not-war,"scenario. Templeton, Charles Rebstock Professor of Biology in Arts & Sciences at Washington University, combined evidence from many different populations and many different genes in an analysis to reconstruct their movement and history. Africa has played a dominant role in shaping the modern gene pool through successive population expansions, he says in the March 7, 2002 issue of Nature. But these populations interbreeding with resident populations means that genetic interchange between populations has occurred everywhere throughout history. Templeton analyzed human genetic trees for maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA, paternally inherited Y-chromosomal DNA, and eight other DNA regions , including two on the X chromosome, to reach his conclusions. He used a computer program called GEODIS, which he created in 1995 and later modified with the help of David Posada, Ph.D., and Keith Crandall, Ph.D. at Brigham Young University, to determine genetic relationships among and within populations based on an examination of specific haplotypes, clusters of genes that are inherited as a unit. Templeton's study is based on 10 DNA regions, while most other genetic analyses focus on just one, mitochondrial DNA, for instance. It also differs from most approaches because it uses a statistical approach with a priori inference criteria but requires no prior model of human evolution. Most others have a model in mind, and then see if the data are compatible with it. GEODIS analyses place an older expansion out of Africa between 420,000 and 840,000 years ago and a more recent one between 80,000 and 150,000 years ago. GEODIS analyses also show conclusively, Templeton states, that the most recent out-of-Africa expansion event was not a replacement event. Replacement means the new population wiped out an existing one in Europe or Asia, resulting in their complete genetic extinction. "If it had been (a replacement event), the three significant genetic signatures of the older expansion event and the six significant genetic signatures of older recurrent gene flow would have been wiped away," Templeton writes. It is likely that the earlier out-of-Africa expansion also was characterized by interbreeding rather than replacement, but Templeton emphasizes that the evidence for this is tentative because the probability of such old gene flow is not statistically high enough. "Humans expanded again and again out of Africa," Templeton concludes, "but these expansions resulted in interbreeding, not replacement, and thereby strengthened the genetic ties between human populations throughout the world." The work was supported in part by a Burroughs Wellcome Fund Innovation Award in Functional Genomics. Templeton, who joined the Washington University faculty in 1977, is a renowned population and evolutionary biologist who has analyzed the genomes of many different species to better understand their evolution and their survival. Since 1984, he has been the head of the Evolutionary and Population Biology Program in Washington University's Division of Biological Sciences. Templeton's contributions to the controversy of recent human evolution include dashing the popular 'Eve Theory' because of flaws he detected in researchers' 1987 computer analyses. In 1998, he published a paper in American Anthropologist that explained humans as one race, instead of a species with subdivisions, or races. His study showed that, among people now categorized by race, everyone shares about 85 percent of the same genes. The 15 percent of variation is not enough difference to separate people biologically. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-03/wuis-he030402.php ______ Nature 416, 45 - 51 (2002) Out of Africa again and again ALAN TEMPLETON Department of Biology, Washington University, St Louis, Missouri 63130-4899, USA Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to A.R.T. (e-mail: temple_a at biology.wustl.edu). The publication of a haplotype tree of human mitochondrial DNA variation in 1987 provoked a controversy about the details of recent human evolution that continues to this day. Now many haplotype trees are available, and new analytical techniques exist for testing hypotheses about recent evolutionary history using haplotype trees. Here I present formal statistical analysis of human haplotype trees for mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosomal DNA, two X-linked regions and six autosomal regions. A coherent picture of recent human evolution emerges with two major themes. First is the dominant role that Africa has played in shaping the modern human gene pool through at least two-not one-major expansions after the original range extension of Homo erectus out of Africa. Second is the ubiquity of genetic interchange between human populations, both in terms of recurrent gene flow constrained by geographical distance and of major population expansion events resulting in interbreeding, not replacement. http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v416/n6876/abs/416045a_fs.html __________ Unsubscribe or change your subscription options at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/ Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/messages/ Join Evolutionary Psychology: evolutionary-psychology-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Human Nature Review: http://human-nature.com/ Human Nature Daily Review http://human-nature.com/nibbs/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Hubey) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:52:17 -0500 Subject: [language] Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:54:14 +0000 Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain: The Subcortical Bases of Speech, Syntax, and Thought (Perspectives in Cognitive Neuroscience) by Philip Lieberman, Stephen M. Kosslyn Paperback - 240 pages (March 2002) Harvard Univ Pr; ISBN: 067400793X AMAZON - US http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067400793X/darwinanddarwini/ AMAZON - UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/067400793X/humannaturecom/ Synopsis This work is an entry into the fierce current debate among psycho-linguists, neuroscientists, and evolutionary theorists about the nature and origins of human language. A prominent neuroscientist here takes up the Darwinian case, using data seldom considered by psycho-linguists and neuro-linguists to argue that human language - though more sophisticated than all other forms of animal communication - is not a qualitative different ability from all forms of animal communication, does not require a quantum evolutionary leap to explain it, and is not unified in a single "language instinct". Using clinical evidence from speech-impaired patients, functional neuro-imaging, and evolutionary biology to make his case, Philip Lieberman contends that human language is not a single separate module but a functional neurological system made up off many separate abilities. Language remains as it began, the author argues: a device for coping with the world. But in a blow to human narcissism, he makes the case that this most remarkable human ability is a by-product of our remote reptilian ancestors' abilities to dodge hazards, seize opportunities, and live to see another day. Philip Lieberman is Fred M. Seed Professor of Cognitive and Linguistic Sciences and Professor of Anthropology at Brown University and the author of The Biology and Evolution of Language, Uniquely Human: The Evolution of Speech, Thought, and Selfless Behavior (both from Harvard), and Eve Spoke. Perspectives in Cognitive Neuroscience: A series edited by Stephen M. Kosslyn June 61/8 x 91/4 15 line illus., 1 halftone 224 pp. Reviews This is a thoughtful and scholarly book that is bound to expand the horizons of any...well-educated layperson or student who would like a brief review of this dynamic multidisciplinary field that encompasses neurology, primate studies, anthropology, psychology, and of course linguistics. --F. S. Szalay, Choice ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 22 17:48:33 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:48:33 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Excavations in Eastern Europe reveal ancient humanlifestyles] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Intelligence of humans. They had needles 30,000 years ago. Public release date: 21-Mar-2002 Contact: John Hoffecker jhoffeck at aol.com 303-220-7646 University of Colorado at Boulder Excavations in Eastern Europe reveal ancient human lifestyles Ongoing excavations in Russia indicate anatomically modern humans were developing new technologies for survival in the cold, harsh region some 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, according to a University of Colorado at Boulder researcher. John Hoffecker of CU-Boulder’s Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research said that excavations at Kostenki -- a series of more than 20 sites about 250 miles south of present-day Moscow -- have yielded bone and ivory needles with eyelets that are 30,000 years old. In addition, the research team uncovered nearly articulated bones of both arctic foxes and hares at the site, which is along the Don River. These discoveries strongly hint that ancient residents of Kostenki had developed trapping techniques to obtain furs that would help keep them warmer in the winters. The many discoveries at Kostenki since the 1940s imply that anatomically modern humans who had migrated out of Africa 40,000 to 50,000 years ago were adapting to the frigid temperatures of the central east European Plain, he said. “The use of furs is particularly important, given these were a slender people with long limbs recently arrived from southern latitudes, making the cold even more of a challenge to survive in,” Hoffecker said. The Kostenki sites, which date beyond 40,000 years ago, may have hosted Neanderthals as well as modern humans, he said. “It looks like there were two separate industries at work here. One culture was advanced in terms of bone and ivory tool-making and decorative figurine art, while the other produced little more than crude stone tools.” Although modern human remains have been found at Kostenki associated with the advanced culture, no human skeletal materials have been found with the cruder tools, and their makers are unknown, said Hoffecker. Hoffecker gave a talk on the latest research at Kostenki at the annual Society for American Archaeology meeting held in Denver March 18 and March 19. Other participants in the study include Michael Anikovich and Andre Sinitsyn of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Vance Holiday of the University of Wisconsin and Steve Forman, a former CU-Boulder researcher now at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Hoffecker also will give a talk on Kostenki research at the larger annual meeting of the 2002 Society for American Archaeology, which meets March 20 to March 22 at the Adam’s Mark Hotel on Denver’s 16th Street Mall. “It was critical for these people to adapt to cold climates in order to survive,” said Hoffecker, an INSTAAR Fellow whose research has been funded by the Leakey Foundation, the National Science Foundation and the National Geographic Society. The modern humans at Kostenki also were creating symbols, art and language, as evidenced by decorated and engraved figurines, as well as some supporting anatomical evidence, he said. “There may have been a relationship between their ability to formulate and communicate concepts through language and their ability to manipulate their environment through complex technology,” he said. “The exciting aspect is that we continue to find evidence of these people in deeper layers of sediment,” he said. The evidence for modern humans at Kostenki is buried under 3 meters to 5 meters of silt. Dating the early human sites beyond 40,000 years is a challenge because it is roughly the limit of radiocarbon dating, he said. The researchers turned to luminescence dating, which involves heating rock crystals from the sites and counting photons emitted from the crystals -- which have been trapped under sediments for millennia -- in order to determine accurate dates for specific sites. Animal remains found at modern human sites at Kostenki included horses, mammoth, bison, moose and reindeer, said Hoffecker. In addition, other researchers recently found evidence for high consumption of fish based on analyses of bone chemistry from 30,000-year-old human remains, another indication that anatomically modern humans were advancing human technology. “The fishing activity shows these people were probably manipulating the environment with fish weirs or traps,’’ said Hoffecker. “They appear to have been using their sophisticated technology to expand the range of their diet, in comparison to Neanderthals.” In addition to trapping fur-bearing mammals, there also is evidence at Kostenki that modern humans were killing other small mammals and possibly birds using darts. “There is no evidence that Neanderthals were using this technique,” he said. Hoffecker recently authored a book titled “Desolate Landscape: Ice Age Settlement in Eastern Europe,” which was published by Rutgers University Press. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-03/uoca-eie032102.php __________ Unsubscribe or change your subscription options at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/ Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/messages/ Join Evolutionary Psychology: evolutionary-psychology-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Human Nature Review: http://human-nature.com/ Human Nature Daily Review http://human-nature.com/nibbs/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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Hubey) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:50:33 -0500 Subject: [language] the latest issue of IQLA Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> I just received the latest issue of IQLA, and before I threw it out I decided to peruse it, and there it is: a review of my book! I read about half of it, and I see now that this book is certainly not going to be taken as the equivalent of Feynman's Physics lectures. Feynman's books are beautiful but probably used nowhere as physics text books. It looks like linguists are even more ignorant and less capable than I originally thought. It has been eye-opening to read at least half the review. I think I have to rewrite this book and make it 600 pages. Maybe then, the connections will be seen. Is there anyone here who read the book and wants to know the answers to the questions brought out by the reviewers? I can kill two birds with one stone; i can answer them here and thus create notes which I can use to make the book thicker and more detailed. I realize that in some places the writing is skimpy and I could have written more, but many of the criticisms are simply unjustified. I can show them here. It's too much for people who know so little math to expect so much from a thin little paperback. -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Wed Mar 27 00:58:08 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:58:08 -0500 Subject: [language] Re: the latest issue of IQLA Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> I forgot that two of my papers submitted to IQLA and have specifically to do with historical linguistics are still being held for some strange reason and the editor does not answer. Last year he said he had been sick. Some of these have to do with pointing out some of the problems of histling. It would be helpful to show why so much complexity could not be squeezed into such a small book. I think I developed my intuition in physics which made the link between math and the real world. But apparently the reviewers have no idea of the mathematical representation of the real world (physics) and thus have zero intuition. In any case, I think it is a perfect time to discuss these right here and now. The strange part is the they even complain about the parts which were already published in journals, and one of them was published in IQLA. Why did they not complain about it then. And worse, that chapter is the best part of the book, and the most original contribution to phonetics and phonology in about 100 years, and will be seen to be so, sometime in the future. I can explain later. Right now I am late to class. "H.M. Hubey" wrote: > > <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > I just received the latest issue of IQLA, and before I threw it out I decided to > peruse it, and there it is: a review of my book! > > I read about half of it, and I see now that this book is certainly not going > to be taken as the equivalent of Feynman's Physics lectures. Feynman's books > are beautiful but probably used nowhere as physics text books. > > It looks like linguists are even more ignorant and less capable than > I originally thought. > > It has been eye-opening to read at least half the review. > > I think I have to rewrite this book and make it 600 pages. Maybe then, the > connections will be seen. > > Is there anyone here who read the book and wants to know the answers > to the questions brought out by the reviewers? I can kill two birds with > one stone; i can answer them here and thus create notes which I can > use to make the book thicker and more detailed. > > I realize that in some places the writing is skimpy and I could have > written more, but many of the criticisms are simply unjustified. I can > show them here. It's too much for people who know so little math to > expect so much from a thin little paperback. > > -- > > ....Mark > hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu > > ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html > The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things > such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education > about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's > important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express > your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. > Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are > important considerations. > > You are currently subscribed to language as: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Wed Mar 27 18:16:22 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:16:22 -0500 Subject: [language] Buck Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Buck's book claims that Turkic eshek is from Armenian esh. How would it get as far as Northern China from a small language which is famous for borrowing lots of words from other languages? So, is this one of the unwritten laws/rules/heuristics of historical linguistics? In other words Rule: if you see two versions of a word, you take the shorter one to be the original. Has anyone seen this heuristic anunciated in any hist ling book? Is there another rule being invoked? -- Regards, Mark Computer Science hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Thu Mar 28 00:13:10 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:13:10 -0500 Subject: [language] email addresses for fun Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> The two papers I submitted to IQLA have been on hold for a couple of years. The guy who "reviewed" one of them (the other is apparently lost but people read it by fetching it from my homepage sometime ago) is Hans Holm. I have exchanged email with him before and he sounded quite hostile for reasons I could not fathom. At the end of the review (which I have not yet finished) are these two email addresses: Hans_Holm at H2.maus.de Embleton at yorku.ca I would appreciate anyone on this list sending email to them and convincing them to join this list. I think we can all learn a lot from these people. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Mark Computer Science hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 29 00:20:34 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:20:34 -0500 Subject: [language] sci.anthropology.paleo: Nov-95: Re: Ears under pressure. Was Re: Aquatic ape theory Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- A thread of discussion regarding evolution, cladistics trees etc. Please note the date. http://www.anatomy.usyd.edu.au/danny/anthropology/sci.anthropology.paleo/archive/november-1995/0091.html -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:29:41 -0500 Subject: [language] sci.anthropology.paleo: Nov-95: Re: Tears and 'salt excretion'. Was Re: tears Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- http://www.anatomy.usyd.edu.au/danny/anthropology/sci.anthropology.paleo/archive/november-1995/0123.html -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:42:38 -0500 Subject: [language] spiked-culture | Article | And then there was postmodernism... Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- It seems completely irrelevant but it is. One needs to look at things at a higher level of abstraction. http://www.spiked-online.com/articles/00000006D867.htm -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Sat Mar 30 14:07:43 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:07:43 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Apes left unique record of stone tools] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> It looks like language beginnings will go back even further. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Apes left unique record of stone tools Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:30:25 +0000 From: Ian Pitchford Reply-To: Ian Pitchford Organization: http://human-nature.com/ To: evolutionary-psychology at yahoogroups.com Science News Week of March 30, 2002; Vol. 161, No. 13 Wild Chimps Rocked On: Apes left unique record of stone tools Bruce Bower Archaeologists, by definition, uncover the remnants of past human activity. With the first excavation of chimpanzee stone tools at an African site, however, the scope of their work has entered virgin terrain. Chimps transported suitable pieces of stone to the undated site and used them to crack open nuts placed on thick tree roots, according to Julio Mercader of George Washington University in Washington, D.C. "At least some wild chimpanzees have produced stone [artifacts] and left behind an archaeological record of their nut-cracking behavior," says Mercader, who directed the excavation. He described the recent discoveries at the annual meeting of the Paleoanthropology Society, held last week in Denver. Researchers previously had reported that chimps living in western Africa's Taï forest avidly stockpile stones at places with broad tree roots or stumps that serve as anvils for cracking nuts. This activity may represent a learned behavior peculiar to the local animals, since chimps living in other parts of Africa don't use stone implements (SN: 6/19/99, p. 388). Mercader and his coworkers excavated a Taï forest site called Panda 100. Trees bearing so-called Panda nuts grew in this region until 1996, when they died out. The chimp artifacts haven't been dated yet. Full text http://www.sciencenews.org/20020330/fob2.asp __________ Unsubscribe or change your subscription options at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/ Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/messages/ Join Evolutionary Psychology: evolutionary-psychology-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Human Nature Review: http://human-nature.com/ Human Nature Daily Review http://human-nature.com/nibbs/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 8 00:22:52 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:22:52 -0500 Subject: [language] Humans emerged out of Africa again and again Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fe20020307rh.htm -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:52:27 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:09:35 +0000 From: Ian Pitchford Reply-To: Ian Pitchford Organization: http://human-nature.com/ To: evolutionary-psychology at yahoogroups.com Public release date: 6-Mar-2002 Contact: Tony Fitzpatrick tony_fitzpatrick at aismail.wustl.edu 314-935-5272 Washington University in St. Louis Humans emerged 'out of Africa' again and again St. Louis, March 6, 2002, 1 p.m. CST - Analyses of recently derived human genetic trees by Alan R. Templeton, Ph.D, of Washington University in St Louis, show that there were at least two major waves of human migration out of Africa. DNA evidence suggests also that these wanderers bred with the people they encountered, rather than replaced them, in a "make- love-not-war,"scenario. Templeton, Charles Rebstock Professor of Biology in Arts & Sciences at Washington University, combined evidence from many different populations and many different genes in an analysis to reconstruct their movement and history. Africa has played a dominant role in shaping the modern gene pool through successive population expansions, he says in the March 7, 2002 issue of Nature. But these populations interbreeding with resident populations means that genetic interchange between populations has occurred everywhere throughout history. Templeton analyzed human genetic trees for maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA, paternally inherited Y-chromosomal DNA, and eight other DNA regions , including two on the X chromosome, to reach his conclusions. He used a computer program called GEODIS, which he created in 1995 and later modified with the help of David Posada, Ph.D., and Keith Crandall, Ph.D. at Brigham Young University, to determine genetic relationships among and within populations based on an examination of specific haplotypes, clusters of genes that are inherited as a unit. Templeton's study is based on 10 DNA regions, while most other genetic analyses focus on just one, mitochondrial DNA, for instance. It also differs from most approaches because it uses a statistical approach with a priori inference criteria but requires no prior model of human evolution. Most others have a model in mind, and then see if the data are compatible with it. GEODIS analyses place an older expansion out of Africa between 420,000 and 840,000 years ago and a more recent one between 80,000 and 150,000 years ago. GEODIS analyses also show conclusively, Templeton states, that the most recent out-of-Africa expansion event was not a replacement event. Replacement means the new population wiped out an existing one in Europe or Asia, resulting in their complete genetic extinction. "If it had been (a replacement event), the three significant genetic signatures of the older expansion event and the six significant genetic signatures of older recurrent gene flow would have been wiped away," Templeton writes. It is likely that the earlier out-of-Africa expansion also was characterized by interbreeding rather than replacement, but Templeton emphasizes that the evidence for this is tentative because the probability of such old gene flow is not statistically high enough. "Humans expanded again and again out of Africa," Templeton concludes, "but these expansions resulted in interbreeding, not replacement, and thereby strengthened the genetic ties between human populations throughout the world." The work was supported in part by a Burroughs Wellcome Fund Innovation Award in Functional Genomics. Templeton, who joined the Washington University faculty in 1977, is a renowned population and evolutionary biologist who has analyzed the genomes of many different species to better understand their evolution and their survival. Since 1984, he has been the head of the Evolutionary and Population Biology Program in Washington University's Division of Biological Sciences. Templeton's contributions to the controversy of recent human evolution include dashing the popular 'Eve Theory' because of flaws he detected in researchers' 1987 computer analyses. In 1998, he published a paper in American Anthropologist that explained humans as one race, instead of a species with subdivisions, or races. His study showed that, among people now categorized by race, everyone shares about 85 percent of the same genes. The 15 percent of variation is not enough difference to separate people biologically. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-03/wuis-he030402.php ______ Nature 416, 45 - 51 (2002) Out of Africa again and again ALAN TEMPLETON Department of Biology, Washington University, St Louis, Missouri 63130-4899, USA Correspondence and requests for materials should be addressed to A.R.T. (e-mail: temple_a at biology.wustl.edu). The publication of a haplotype tree of human mitochondrial DNA variation in 1987 provoked a controversy about the details of recent human evolution that continues to this day. Now many haplotype trees are available, and new analytical techniques exist for testing hypotheses about recent evolutionary history using haplotype trees. Here I present formal statistical analysis of human haplotype trees for mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosomal DNA, two X-linked regions and six autosomal regions. A coherent picture of recent human evolution emerges with two major themes. First is the dominant role that Africa has played in shaping the modern human gene pool through at least two-not one-major expansions after the original range extension of Homo erectus out of Africa. Second is the ubiquity of genetic interchange between human populations, both in terms of recurrent gene flow constrained by geographical distance and of major population expansion events resulting in interbreeding, not replacement. http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v416/n6876/abs/416045a_fs.html __________ Unsubscribe or change your subscription options at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/ Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/messages/ Join Evolutionary Psychology: evolutionary-psychology-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Human Nature Review: http://human-nature.com/ Human Nature Daily Review http://human-nature.com/nibbs/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 8 15:52:17 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:52:17 -0500 Subject: [language] Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:54:14 +0000 Human Language and Our Reptilian Brain: The Subcortical Bases of Speech, Syntax, and Thought (Perspectives in Cognitive Neuroscience) by Philip Lieberman, Stephen M. Kosslyn Paperback - 240 pages (March 2002) Harvard Univ Pr; ISBN: 067400793X AMAZON - US http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067400793X/darwinanddarwini/ AMAZON - UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/067400793X/humannaturecom/ Synopsis This work is an entry into the fierce current debate among psycho-linguists, neuroscientists, and evolutionary theorists about the nature and origins of human language. A prominent neuroscientist here takes up the Darwinian case, using data seldom considered by psycho-linguists and neuro-linguists to argue that human language - though more sophisticated than all other forms of animal communication - is not a qualitative different ability from all forms of animal communication, does not require a quantum evolutionary leap to explain it, and is not unified in a single "language instinct". Using clinical evidence from speech-impaired patients, functional neuro-imaging, and evolutionary biology to make his case, Philip Lieberman contends that human language is not a single separate module but a functional neurological system made up off many separate abilities. Language remains as it began, the author argues: a device for coping with the world. But in a blow to human narcissism, he makes the case that this most remarkable human ability is a by-product of our remote reptilian ancestors' abilities to dodge hazards, seize opportunities, and live to see another day. Philip Lieberman is Fred M. Seed Professor of Cognitive and Linguistic Sciences and Professor of Anthropology at Brown University and the author of The Biology and Evolution of Language, Uniquely Human: The Evolution of Speech, Thought, and Selfless Behavior (both from Harvard), and Eve Spoke. Perspectives in Cognitive Neuroscience: A series edited by Stephen M. Kosslyn June 61/8 x 91/4 15 line illus., 1 halftone 224 pp. Reviews This is a thoughtful and scholarly book that is bound to expand the horizons of any...well-educated layperson or student who would like a brief review of this dynamic multidisciplinary field that encompasses neurology, primate studies, anthropology, psychology, and of course linguistics. --F. S. Szalay, Choice ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 22 17:48:33 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:48:33 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Excavations in Eastern Europe reveal ancient humanlifestyles] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Intelligence of humans. They had needles 30,000 years ago. Public release date: 21-Mar-2002 Contact: John Hoffecker jhoffeck at aol.com 303-220-7646 University of Colorado at Boulder Excavations in Eastern Europe reveal ancient human lifestyles Ongoing excavations in Russia indicate anatomically modern humans were developing new technologies for survival in the cold, harsh region some 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, according to a University of Colorado at Boulder researcher. John Hoffecker of CU-Boulder?s Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research said that excavations at Kostenki -- a series of more than 20 sites about 250 miles south of present-day Moscow -- have yielded bone and ivory needles with eyelets that are 30,000 years old. In addition, the research team uncovered nearly articulated bones of both arctic foxes and hares at the site, which is along the Don River. These discoveries strongly hint that ancient residents of Kostenki had developed trapping techniques to obtain furs that would help keep them warmer in the winters. The many discoveries at Kostenki since the 1940s imply that anatomically modern humans who had migrated out of Africa 40,000 to 50,000 years ago were adapting to the frigid temperatures of the central east European Plain, he said. ?The use of furs is particularly important, given these were a slender people with long limbs recently arrived from southern latitudes, making the cold even more of a challenge to survive in,? Hoffecker said. The Kostenki sites, which date beyond 40,000 years ago, may have hosted Neanderthals as well as modern humans, he said. ?It looks like there were two separate industries at work here. One culture was advanced in terms of bone and ivory tool-making and decorative figurine art, while the other produced little more than crude stone tools.? Although modern human remains have been found at Kostenki associated with the advanced culture, no human skeletal materials have been found with the cruder tools, and their makers are unknown, said Hoffecker. Hoffecker gave a talk on the latest research at Kostenki at the annual Society for American Archaeology meeting held in Denver March 18 and March 19. Other participants in the study include Michael Anikovich and Andre Sinitsyn of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Vance Holiday of the University of Wisconsin and Steve Forman, a former CU-Boulder researcher now at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Hoffecker also will give a talk on Kostenki research at the larger annual meeting of the 2002 Society for American Archaeology, which meets March 20 to March 22 at the Adam?s Mark Hotel on Denver?s 16th Street Mall. ?It was critical for these people to adapt to cold climates in order to survive,? said Hoffecker, an INSTAAR Fellow whose research has been funded by the Leakey Foundation, the National Science Foundation and the National Geographic Society. The modern humans at Kostenki also were creating symbols, art and language, as evidenced by decorated and engraved figurines, as well as some supporting anatomical evidence, he said. ?There may have been a relationship between their ability to formulate and communicate concepts through language and their ability to manipulate their environment through complex technology,? he said. ?The exciting aspect is that we continue to find evidence of these people in deeper layers of sediment,? he said. The evidence for modern humans at Kostenki is buried under 3 meters to 5 meters of silt. Dating the early human sites beyond 40,000 years is a challenge because it is roughly the limit of radiocarbon dating, he said. The researchers turned to luminescence dating, which involves heating rock crystals from the sites and counting photons emitted from the crystals -- which have been trapped under sediments for millennia -- in order to determine accurate dates for specific sites. Animal remains found at modern human sites at Kostenki included horses, mammoth, bison, moose and reindeer, said Hoffecker. In addition, other researchers recently found evidence for high consumption of fish based on analyses of bone chemistry from 30,000-year-old human remains, another indication that anatomically modern humans were advancing human technology. ?The fishing activity shows these people were probably manipulating the environment with fish weirs or traps,?? said Hoffecker. ?They appear to have been using their sophisticated technology to expand the range of their diet, in comparison to Neanderthals.? In addition to trapping fur-bearing mammals, there also is evidence at Kostenki that modern humans were killing other small mammals and possibly birds using darts. ?There is no evidence that Neanderthals were using this technique,? he said. Hoffecker recently authored a book titled ?Desolate Landscape: Ice Age Settlement in Eastern Europe,? which was published by Rutgers University Press. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-03/uoca-eie032102.php __________ Unsubscribe or change your subscription options at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/ Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evolutionary-psychology/messages/ Join Evolutionary Psychology: evolutionary-psychology-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Human Nature Review: http://human-nature.com/ Human Nature Daily Review http://human-nature.com/nibbs/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: C:DOCUME~1ADMINI~1LOCALS~1TempnsmailOS.gif Type: image/gif Size: 23966 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Wed Mar 27 00:50:33 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:50:33 -0500 Subject: [language] the latest issue of IQLA Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> I just received the latest issue of IQLA, and before I threw it out I decided to peruse it, and there it is: a review of my book! I read about half of it, and I see now that this book is certainly not going to be taken as the equivalent of Feynman's Physics lectures. Feynman's books are beautiful but probably used nowhere as physics text books. It looks like linguists are even more ignorant and less capable than I originally thought. It has been eye-opening to read at least half the review. I think I have to rewrite this book and make it 600 pages. Maybe then, the connections will be seen. Is there anyone here who read the book and wants to know the answers to the questions brought out by the reviewers? I can kill two birds with one stone; i can answer them here and thus create notes which I can use to make the book thicker and more detailed. I realize that in some places the writing is skimpy and I could have written more, but many of the criticisms are simply unjustified. I can show them here. It's too much for people who know so little math to expect so much from a thin little paperback. -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Wed Mar 27 00:58:08 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:58:08 -0500 Subject: [language] Re: the latest issue of IQLA Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> I forgot that two of my papers submitted to IQLA and have specifically to do with historical linguistics are still being held for some strange reason and the editor does not answer. Last year he said he had been sick. Some of these have to do with pointing out some of the problems of histling. It would be helpful to show why so much complexity could not be squeezed into such a small book. I think I developed my intuition in physics which made the link between math and the real world. But apparently the reviewers have no idea of the mathematical representation of the real world (physics) and thus have zero intuition. In any case, I think it is a perfect time to discuss these right here and now. The strange part is the they even complain about the parts which were already published in journals, and one of them was published in IQLA. Why did they not complain about it then. And worse, that chapter is the best part of the book, and the most original contribution to phonetics and phonology in about 100 years, and will be seen to be so, sometime in the future. I can explain later. Right now I am late to class. "H.M. Hubey" wrote: > > <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > I just received the latest issue of IQLA, and before I threw it out I decided to > peruse it, and there it is: a review of my book! > > I read about half of it, and I see now that this book is certainly not going > to be taken as the equivalent of Feynman's Physics lectures. Feynman's books > are beautiful but probably used nowhere as physics text books. > > It looks like linguists are even more ignorant and less capable than > I originally thought. > > It has been eye-opening to read at least half the review. > > I think I have to rewrite this book and make it 600 pages. Maybe then, the > connections will be seen. > > Is there anyone here who read the book and wants to know the answers > to the questions brought out by the reviewers? I can kill two birds with > one stone; i can answer them here and thus create notes which I can > use to make the book thicker and more detailed. > > I realize that in some places the writing is skimpy and I could have > written more, but many of the criticisms are simply unjustified. I can > show them here. It's too much for people who know so little math to > expect so much from a thin little paperback. > > -- > > ....Mark > hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu > > ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html > The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things > such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education > about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's > important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express > your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. > Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are > important considerations. > > You are currently subscribed to language as: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Wed Mar 27 18:16:22 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:16:22 -0500 Subject: [language] Buck Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Buck's book claims that Turkic eshek is from Armenian esh. How would it get as far as Northern China from a small language which is famous for borrowing lots of words from other languages? So, is this one of the unwritten laws/rules/heuristics of historical linguistics? In other words Rule: if you see two versions of a word, you take the shorter one to be the original. Has anyone seen this heuristic anunciated in any hist ling book? Is there another rule being invoked? -- Regards, Mark Computer Science hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Thu Mar 28 00:13:10 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:13:10 -0500 Subject: [language] email addresses for fun Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> The two papers I submitted to IQLA have been on hold for a couple of years. The guy who "reviewed" one of them (the other is apparently lost but people read it by fetching it from my homepage sometime ago) is Hans Holm. I have exchanged email with him before and he sounded quite hostile for reasons I could not fathom. At the end of the review (which I have not yet finished) are these two email addresses: Hans_Holm at H2.maus.de Embleton at yorku.ca I would appreciate anyone on this list sending email to them and convincing them to join this list. I think we can all learn a lot from these people. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Mark Computer Science hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. That's important so that copyright law doesn't block your freedom to express your own works -- only the ability to express other people's. Intent, and damage to the commercial value of the work are important considerations. You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Fri Mar 29 00:20:34 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:20:34 -0500 Subject: [language] sci.anthropology.paleo: Nov-95: Re: Ears under pressure. Was Re: Aquatic ape theory Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- A thread of discussion regarding evolution, cladistics trees etc. Please note the date. http://www.anatomy.usyd.edu.au/danny/anthropology/sci.anthropology.paleo/archive/november-1995/0091.html -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:29:41 -0500 Subject: [language] sci.anthropology.paleo: Nov-95: Re: Tears and 'salt excretion'. Was Re: tears Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- http://www.anatomy.usyd.edu.au/danny/anthropology/sci.anthropology.paleo/archive/november-1995/0123.html -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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Hubey) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:42:38 -0500 Subject: [language] spiked-culture | Article | And then there was postmodernism... Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -------------- next part -------------- It seems completely irrelevant but it is. One needs to look at things at a higher level of abstraction. http://www.spiked-online.com/articles/00000006D867.htm -- ....Mark hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ---<><><><><><><><><><><><>----Language----<><><><><><><><><><><><><> Copyrights/"Fair Use": http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html The "fair use" exemption to copyright law was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the permission of the author. 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You are currently subscribed to language as: language at listserv.linguistlist.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-language-4283Y at csam-lists.montclair.edu From hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu Sat Mar 30 14:07:43 2002 From: hubeyh at mail.montclair.edu (H.M. Hubey) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:07:43 -0500 Subject: [language] [Fwd: [evol-psych] Apes left unique record of stone tools] Message-ID: <><><><><><><><><><><><>--This is the Language List--<><><><><><><><><><><><><> It looks like language beginnings will go back even further. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [evol-psych] Apes left unique record of stone tools Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:30:25 +0000 From: Ian Pitchford Reply-To: Ian Pitchford Organization: http://human-nature.com/ To: evolutionary-psychology at yahoogroups.com Science News Week of March 30, 2002; Vol. 161, No. 13 Wild Chimps Rocked On: Apes left unique record of stone tools Bruce Bower Archaeologists, by definition, uncover the remnants of past human activity. With the first excavation of chimpanzee stone tools at an African site, however, the scope of their work has entered virgin terrain. Chimps transported suitable pieces of stone to the undated site and used them to crack open nuts placed on thick tree roots, according to Julio Mercader of George Washington University in Washington, D.C. "At least some wild chimpanzees have produced stone [artifacts] and left behind an archaeological record of their nut-cracking behavior," says Mercader, who directed the excavation. He described the recent discoveries at the annual meeting of the Paleoanthropology Society, held last week in Denver. Researchers previously had reported that chimps living in western Africa's Ta? forest avidly stockpile stones at places with broad tree roots or stumps that serve as anvils for cracking nuts. This activity may represent a learned behavior peculiar to the local animals, since chimps living in other parts of Africa don't use stone implements (SN: 6/19/99, p. 388). Mercader and his coworkers excavated a Ta? forest site called Panda 100. 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