[Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gray" <sozlukyazajy at yahoo.co.uk>
To: <lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Lexicog] one practical question re. weak verbs


> Dear Martin,
>
> I'm interested in what you wrote about Toolbox. I've just converted a
sample of our Latin Central European encoding lang data to Unicode, but
can't get the sort-order working in Toolbox. It should go:
>
> a b ç (ch) d e ä f g h i j z k l m n ò (ng) etc. but the ç and ö come out
at the end. Have you had any similar problems? Which version are you using?
Where can I learn more about interlinearising using Toolbox?
>
> David
>
> martin_hosken at sil.org wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> <David>
> If you are working in a language with weak verbs, would it be better to
> have them as head words e.g.
>
> \lx jang etmek
> \ps v.
> \de to telephone, ring
>
> or:
>
> \lx jang
> \ps n.
> \de bell
> \se jang etmek
> \de to telephone, ring
>
> where the sfms are:
> lx lexeme
> ps part of speech
> de defn in English
> se sub entry
> </David>
>
> Or even more radically:
>
> \lx jang
> \ps n.
> \de bell
>
> \lx jang etmek
> \ps v.
> \de to telephone, ring
> \sh jang
>
> where \sh means sub-head to indicate which entry this entry is a sub-entry
> of. The advantage then is that you get phrase interlinearising in Toolbox
> and the typesetting software can assemble the head/sub-entry structure to
> give the printed dictionary that people want and can be so helpful. But
> then that comes from someone who is used to having to write all their
> typesetting software from scratch!
>
> >The traditonal approach in Central Asia and similar areas seams to be the
> latter, but this is not very pragmatic, especially where the 'noun' is
> never used in isolation e.g. 'kabul' is always used in 'kabul etmek' (to
> receive, welcome) or 'kabulhana' (reception).
>
> Oh the joys of not having inter-word spaces (says the Southeast Asian) :)
>
> GB,
> Martin
>
>
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