[Lexicog] Who Said What?

Koontz John E john.koontz at COLORADO.EDU
Mon Sep 27 22:33:18 UTC 2004


On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Peter Kirk wrote:
> Understood. I was happy with how you put things, but not so happy with
> Ken's wording.

I didn't notice anything offensive, perhaps because I was coming from the
same place.  A certain strident idealism, not unlike that of the
proponents of Unicode. *grin*  Probably best not to worry too much about
wording in email.  It always manages to come out differently than we
intended.

> ISO 8859-xx standards replaced ASCII probably in the 1980's, but ISO
> 10646 (= Unicode) replaced ISO 8859-xx in the 1990's.

The academic world is still completing the 1980s.  We'll be with you
"shortly."  I'm pretty sure the 8000-series numbers are what I see in the
pine configuration menus.

> The standards are clearly specified and have been for at least ten
> years, at least in their basic structure and support for simple variants
> of Latin script.  University systems really should have been upgraded to
> support this by now, after ten years. But I realise that this can be
> outside individual users' control.

Every once in a while someone comes around with a long lever and tries to
pry me out of pine and into a web mail client, but I allowed myself to be
pried into one of those by Microsoft at home - Hotmail, yech - and I've
never stopped regretting it.  "Now fresh with even fewer, less powerful
features and slower throughput, but illustrated in bright watercolors, and
lavishly encrusted with lurid advertising!"  I notice the Unviersity gave
in and replaced the mail server that the pine users use with a much
bigger, newer system recently.  Maybe they realized that the users weren't
reading the handwriting on the wall.  Or were stubbornly ignoring it.

I will give up my pine when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers, or
offer me a copy of Eudora instead.  Actually, I expect pine will support
Unicode eventually.  Heck, they just added mail filtering.


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