[Lexicog] Lexique Pro file from scratch

Kenneth Keyes ken_keyes at SIL.ORG
Sat Jan 15 01:47:29 UTC 2005


Phil,

Another alternative is to use RTF2SFM, which is available on the SIL
website at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=RTF2SFM
.

Best Regards, Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: phil cash cash [mailto:pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:38 AM
> To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Lexicog] Lexique Pro file from scratch
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>
> Thanks everybody for your help.
>
> I have a number of dictionary files in Shoebox 4.0 (is this a
> dinosaur
> now?) but could never really master getting a Shoebox print out as it
> seemed to a pretty complicated manuever.  I may still be able to load
> these files into Lexique Pro it seems.  For this reason I
> stopped using
> SB and so I just create lists in plain txt and rtf files.  of
> course, I
> do not claim to be a lexicographer just an interested individual
> (tribal member, linguistics student, speaker) who likes to create
> non-ordinary dictionaries (placenames, personal names, kinship, etc)
> every so often.
>
> Phil Cash Cash (cayuse/nez perce)
> UofA
>
> On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Wayne Leman wrote:
>
> >
> > I think you have stated things correctly, David. One
> problem I see is
> > that
> > Shoebox/Toolbox are far less user-friendly and have a much greater
> > learning
> > curve than Lexique Pro. I have believed for quite some time
> that what
> > the
> > Shoebox/Toolbox programs need are configuration wizards as
> are used in
> > Lexique Pro and many other programs these days. If someone
> created a
> > lexical
> > filing/manipulation/sorting program that was as slick and
> > user-friendly as
> > Lexique Pro they might become rich (if enuf people got paid
> enuf to do
> > lexicography; hah!)
> >
> > Wayne Leman
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Wayne --
> >>
> >> It sounds like Phil is saying that he has resisted using
> >> Shoebox/Toolbox
> >> up
> >> to now, but having seen Lexique Pro he wants to know if he has to
> >> take the
> >> plunge and learn how to use one of these in order to be
> able to take
> >> advantage of Lexique Pro. It looks like the answer is, basically,
> >> "yes".
> >> See
> >> the first question and answer under
> http://www.lexiquepro.com/faq.htm.
> >> However, if you understand how "standard format" field markers are
> >> used by
> >> Shoebox for dictionary data, you wouldn't absolutely have to use
> >> Shoebox
> >> to
> >> put your data into the right format. You could do it in a
> simple plain
> >> text
> >> editor. That's how it was done in the olden days. But I wouldn't
> >> recommend
> >> it. For a small amount of data, that would be fine, but for a whole
> >> dictionary, it would be much more practical to learn how to use
> >> Shoebox.
> >>
> >> I haven't downloaded Lexique Pro yet, but from looking at the FAQ
> >> page, it
> >> looks like Lexique Pro can adapt itself to a different set
> of field
> >> codes
> >> you might use. I imagine it would still need to see
> something like a
> >> backslash code or some other kind of distinctive code at the
> >> beginning of
> >> each field. The point is that you have to have your data
> in some kind
> >> of
> >> database, and I'm sure that no matter what kind of database format
> >> you are
> >> using, there would be a reasonable way to convert it into
> a form that
> >> Lexique Pro can use. For an advanced computer user,
> converting from
> >> one
> >> database format to another shouldn't be a big deal. The
> question is
> >> what
> >> kind of database program Phil would like to use for entering and
> >> editing
> >> dictionary data. Shoebox/Toolbox would be the default for using
> >> Lexique
> >> Pro,
> >> but probably anything could be used with only a little more
> >> difficulty.
> >> Anything, that is, other than typing formatted dictionary entries
> >> directly
> >> into MS Word. But even then, a script could possibly be
> written that
> >> could
> >> convert formatted dictionary entries into a database
> format, such as
> >> standard format code. I wouldn't want to have to go that route too
> >> often,
> >> though.
> >>
> >> -- David Frank
> >
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