[Lexicog] archaic entries

Andrew Dunbar hippytrail at GMAIL.COM
Fri Feb 10 20:45:46 UTC 2006


It might be worth asking how various people differentiate "archaic" from
"obsolete" while we're at it.

Andrew Dunbar.


On 2/10/06, Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:
>
> Good point, Phil,
>
> Such a judgment can kill a word. There is also the possibility of
> resurrecting or rejuvenating a word labelled
> "archaic." Who can hinder creative speakers from doing so?
>
> Fritz Goerling
>
>
>
> thanks Filip, Jimm, I was also hoping to know who was making the judgement
> of a term being 'archaic' - the lexicographer or the speaker consultant(s)
> or speech community.
>
> qo'c (later),
> Phil Cash Cash
>  On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Filip Rudolf wrote:
>
>
>
> *goodtracks at peoplepc.com* wrote:
>
> I use "archaic" as a term that has documented use in past generations, but
>
> is no longer used or known by present day speakers. There may be persons
> who recall the term however.
> I use "old" for those terms that may be heard from and used by a few
> persons, but are not the usual word or pronunciation of a word that is
> current.
> Jimm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "phil cash cash" <pasxapu at DAKOTACOM.NET>
> To: <lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:03 PM
> Subject: [Lexicog] archaic entries
>
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I just wanted to ask for some input on the intent or meaning behind
> > defining a dictionary entry as "archaic."
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Phil Cash Cash
> > University of Arizona
>
> <no longer used or known by present day speakers> Well, perhaps <no longer
> used> would suffice. Forms such as 'thou art' or 'thou shalt' are no longer
> used but are surely understood by educated speakers. It would be interesting
> to have a closer look at such labels as 'old', 'old use', 'archaic',
> 'obsolescent' or 'obsolete' as the the distinctions between them are not
> clear-cut.
>
> Filip
>
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