[Lexicog] archaic entries

Fri Feb 10 21:01:52 UTC 2006

"Obsolete" might go one step further. I have heard it used as a club (or
should I say "axe"?)
by people who had an axe to grind and who tried to expunge words from the
language that did not fit their ideological agenda. Such language
engineering usually
backfires.

Fritz Goerling 

It might be worth asking how various people differentiate "archaic" from
"obsolete" while we're at it.

Andrew Dunbar.

On 2/10/06, Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote: 

Good point, Phil, 

Such a judgment can kill a word. There is also the possibility of
resurrecting or rejuvenating a word labelled
"archaic." Who can hinder creative speakers from doing so?

Fritz Goerling

thanks Filip, Jimm, I was also hoping to know who was making the judgement
of a term being 'archaic' - the lexicographer or the speaker consultant(s)
or speech community. 

qo'c (later), 
Phil Cash Cash 

On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Filip Rudolf wrote:

goodtracks at peoplepc.com wrote: 

I use "archaic" as a term that has documented use in past generations, but 
is no longer used or known by present day speakers. There may be persons 
who recall the term however.
I use "old" for those terms that may be heard from and used by a few 
persons, but are not the usual word or pronunciation of a word that is 
current.
Jimm
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> Hi everybody,
>
> I just wanted to ask for some input on the intent or meaning behind 
> defining a dictionary entry as "archaic."
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Phil Cash Cash
> University of Arizona

<no longer used or known by present day speakers> Well, perhaps <no longer
used> would suffice. Forms such as 'thou art' or 'thou shalt' are no longer
used but are surely understood by educated speakers. It would be interesting
to have a closer look at such labels as 'old', 'old use', 'archaic',
'obsolescent' or 'obsolete' as the the distinctions between them are not
clear-cut. 

Filip

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