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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Vy zadali tak mnogo voprosov, chto ia ne znaiu
gde nachat’ i gde konchit’.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ia mogu dat’ vam neskol’ko sovetov.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>MS – ne samoe luchshee reshenie
dlia vashego slovaria.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Vy mozhete poluchit’ informatsiiu
o raznyx elektronnyx</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>leksikographicheskix
programmax </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>on web
site <a href="http://www.sil.org/">http://www.sil.org/</a> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eta organizatsiia imeet spisok
raznyx elektronnyx</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>leksikographicheskix
program (takix kak Shoebox, Toolbox, Lingua Links,</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Field
Works i podobnoe. Eti programmy sozdany spetsial’no dlia</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>leksikografov.
Oni the tol’ko pozvoliaiut derzhat’ slovar’ v organizovannom</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>vide i pol’zovat’sia
im na kompiutore, no takzhe daiut vozmozhnost’</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>opublikovat’
vash slovar’ na w.w.w. ili podgotovit’ rukopis’ (typescript) k pechati po trebovaniiam
izdatelia. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>4)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>      
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ia ne znaiu spetsialnyx rabot
o sozdanii alfavitov. Moia tochka otpravleniia, znanie</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>lingvistiki
I filologii. Snachala vy dolzhny podgotovit’ spisok fonem. Zatem vy dolzny reshit’</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>kakuiu graficheskuiu
sistemu vziat’ za osnovu. Esli chislo fonem prevosxodit chislo bukv</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>latinskogo
alfavita, vy mozhete vybrat’ kirillitsu. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Reshenie
o graficheskoi baze mozhet byt’ sviazano takzhe s religiei etogo naroda.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Esli oni
xristianizirovany, kirillitsa mozhet byt’ bolee podxodiastchei.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Shwa</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> mozhet byt’ izobrazheno perevernutym
e ə (esli ono imeet ottenok e), ono moshet byt’ Izobrazheno latinskim i, no bez
tochki ı kak v tiurskikh iazykax (esli ono imeet ottenok</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>i tverdogo)
Esli vashe shwa imeet bol’shee kolichestvo variantov, vy budete dolzhny vvesti</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>glasnye
s diakritikami. Vy mozhete proverith tablitsu Unicode characters in
Insert>Symbol</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>menue of
Microsoft Word.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rad byt’
k vashim uslugam,</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dr.
Hayim Y. Sheynin</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Adjunct
Professor</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gratz
College</span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Masha Brykina
[mailto:marik_bryk@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 01, 2004
1:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Lexicog] Field research
based dictionaries</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello all,</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am a new member of this group and would like to ask
for help. I am involved in a project aimed to make a Besermyan-Russian dictionary
(Besermyan is considered to be one of dialects of Udmurt - a Finno-Ugric
language). This dictionary will be based on field research. Until now we’ve
collected over 3000 basic lexemes with some examples, which we have organized
in a database made in Microsoft Access. During our work we were confronted with
certain problems and would like to learn more about these points (perhaps you
could provide some references):</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>      </span></font>Whether
anyone has experience using MS Access for such goals.</p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>      </span></font>What
are the basic principles of separating meanings of the word</p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>      </span></font>How
one should deal with loan words (there are lots of words from Russian more or
less phonetically assimilated (for example, the names of the months – russian
ones are wide-spread and the original ones are remembered only by several aged
speakers)).</p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>4)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>      </span></font>Whether
there are any works on principles of making alphabets. For example, we have
problems with shwa-sound. There are several variants of this sound, which don’t
seem to be phonological, but which are easily distinguished by the native
speakers. And since Besermyan differs phonetically from Udmurt and therefore
can be seen as having no writing system, one more problem arises – how to
choose lexical entry in case there are several phonetic variants for one
lexeme.</p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>We would be very grateful for any information
concerning these problems.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Masha.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Maria Brykina</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Student</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Department of Linguistics</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Moscow State University</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="mailto:marik_bryk@yahoo.com">mailto:marik_bryk@yahoo.com</a></span></font></p>

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