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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I realize that those characters are found
in Farsi, but I don’t see how that helps. I see two possible situations
you are suggesting. Is there another situation I’m not seeing?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Situation 1) Use the Arabic <span
class=GramE>keyboard</span> until you get to a letter where you need the Farsi
keyboard, switch to Farsi, type it in, then go back to the Arabic keyboard. So
you’re using two keyboard layouts for one word. That doesn’t seem
like a good solution; and I don’t know how the ligatures would look that
way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Situation 2) Instead of using the Arabic
keyboard, use a Farsi keyboard. First of all, that would pose a problem in that
the typist might not know the Farsi keyboard whereas they would know the Arabic
keyboard. (From what I remember, they do not have the same layout.) Then there
are a couple of unknowns in situation 2 for me: Do ligatures in Farsi work the
same as in Arabic? Does Farsi have all the same characters and diacritics that
Arabic has? Is the style of Farsi writing the same as what is acceptable and
normal in Arabic?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In my message below, I only referred to
two special characters – which happen to be found in Farsi. There are
other special Arabic-based characters one might need that are not found in
Farsi, only in Unicode. In that case, I suppose you would need to follow Peter
Kirk’s solution in that you’d need to create your own keyboard
layout – either with a Microsoft program or with Keyman. If that’s
true, then I’d kind of be back to the question I asked below: <tt><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Can these (gaf and za w/ three dots)
be entered straight into Toolbox without a special keyboard (and without having
to use an unknown keyboard or switch keyboards in the middle of a word)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><tt><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></tt></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><tt><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><tt><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Crockett</span></font></tt><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Patrick Chew [</span></font><st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>mail</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>to:patchew@berkeley.edu<span
class=GramE>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent</span></b></span><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date Month="4" Day="19"
Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma'>Monday, April 19, 2004</span></font></st1:date><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="10" Minute="5"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>10:05 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog]
Arabic-based scripts in Shoebox on Arabic-enabled computers</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"><<span class=GramE>gaf</span>> and
<zhe> are both found on the Farsi and Urdu keyboards, which, if </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">using WinXP or like system, you should be able to
use as easily as the </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Arabic keyboard.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<span class=GramE><tt><font face="Courier New">cheers</font></tt></span><tt><font
face="Courier New">,</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">-<span class=GramE>patrick</span></font></tt><br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">At 10:39 PM 4/18/2004, you wrote:</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">></font></tt></span></font><st1:PersonName><tt><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Steve</span></font></tt></st1:PersonName><tt><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>,</span></font></tt><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>I wonder if you can use a standard Windows
Unicode keyboard in Toolbox <span class=GramE>if <br>
></span>you need special Arabic-based characters (characters not found in
the </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>normal Arabic alphabet). For instance, some
minority languages written <span class=GramE>in <br>
></span>an Arabic-based script might need a gaf () or a za with three dots
over </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>it (®). These cannot be typed in using regular
strokes on the <span class=GramE>Arabic <br>
></span>keyboard. You have to use ALT+NUM keys or a macro or something like
that. </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>Is there any way you can check on that?
Looking at the Arabic <span class=GramE>Extended <br>
></span>subset of characters, the gaf is ALT+0144 (Unicode 06AF) and the za
with </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>three dots is ALT+0142 (Unicode 0698). Can
these be entered straight <span class=GramE>into <br>
></span>Toolbox without a special keyboard?</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>Thanks,</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">>Crockett</font></tt><br>
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