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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=179592408-30042004>I
*definitely* agree to your last point - considering the fact that stress in
English *is* a discriminating criterion (a present/to present) it is
*indispensable* to include such information for learners and
others... Being French, I need to be helped to pronounce a word like
indispensable, the exact same word existing in French being stressed
differently.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=179592408-30042004>Vanessa Combet</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> Karen Chung
[mailto:karchung@ntu.edu.tw]<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 29 avril 2004
19:26<BR><B>À :</B>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: [Lexicog] Digest
Number 112<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>"Ron Moe" <ron_moe@sil.org>
wrote:<BR><BR>...I will grant your point that mother tongue<BR>> speakers
already know what the tone of a word is and don't need it marked.<BR>> The
same could be said of English stress, yet most dictionaries mark it. I<BR>>
will admit that I never look at the stress except perhaps upon the
rare<BR>> occassion where there is a dialectal difference. I guess I lean
toward<BR>> including this kind of information on the chance that some user
does need<BR>> it.<BR><BR> You never look at
the stress of an English word except when there's a<BR>dialectal difference?
I'm a native speaker of English, but that's often<BR>the one thing I've needed
to look up a word for, when running into words<BR>like _concomitant_,
_pharmacopoeia_, _polysemy_ and _cochineal_! And<BR>there are confusing
differences as to which syllable to stress in words<BR>like _comparable_. It's
also *definitely* information my EFL students in<BR>Taiwan need. Tone is basic
information that native speakers of Mandarin<BR>Chinese include and need in
their dictionaries. I agree that stress and<BR>tone information *should* be
included in dictionaries.<BR><BR>
Karen Steffen Chung<BR> <A
href="http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/">http://ccms.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/</A><BR>
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href="http://lists.topica.com/lists/phonetics/">http://lists.topica.com/lists/phonetics/</A><BR></TT>
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