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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A googly is a wonderful piece of deception.
The bowler spins the ball one way, </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>but
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>cunningly disguises his hand and wrist action so
that batsman thinks it's spinning </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the other way, and is completely flummoxed (left
hitting at the empty air as the ball </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sails past).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have heard it used metaphorically, thought the
evidence in BNC for metaphorical </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>use is rather thin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What other metaphors for deceptive behaviour are
there, outside English?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patrick</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=philip.durkin@oup.com
href="mailto:philip.durkin@oup.com">DURKIN, Philip</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 21, 2004 8:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] "spin
doctor"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN>H<SPAN class=755024918-21052004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>i there,
Patrick,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004>As I am not a native speaker of English I believe you
and Steve White, who said the same about this term coming from
sports.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004>As I play table tennis, I know what a top spin is. I
don't know cricket but have heard about the term "googly" (through Peter
Kirk,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004>an Englishman on this list) which must refer to when
you give the ball a strong spin.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004>Thanks.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004>Fritz</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=755024918-21052004></SPAN><BR><BR> </DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi again Fritz - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The definition that you quote seems to me a
good one, but I don't think the expression has anything to do with
spinning a yarn (which is a metaphor from the wool trade). It's from
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"putting a spin on [something]", which is, I
believe, a metaphor from either cricket or baseball. </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>I</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>n cricket, unlike
baseball, the ball is allowed to bounce between the bowler (= pitcher) and
the batsman (= batter). Slow bowlers put a lot of spin on the ball, which
causes it to change direction quite dramatically when it bounces, thus
deceiving or confusing the batsman. I believe that in baseball spin
causes the ball to swerve in the air. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm copying this to my former colleague Philip
Durkin at OED; who may be able to say when and where "spin
doctor" originated and indeed whether the metaphor is from cricket or
baseball. (He will, I hope, correct any errors in what I've said here.)
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patrick Hanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 21, 2004 6:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Semantic
extensions</DIV>
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<DIV><TT><FONT size=2><SPAN class=373423016-21052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3>I am interested in the origin of the expression "spin
doctor". Is this a semantic extension or what
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=373423016-21052004>has
happend to "spin" in this expression? I found the following
definition:</SPAN></FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=2>a public relations person who tries to forestall
negative publicity by publicizing </FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=2>a favorable interpretation of the words or actions
of a company or political party </FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=2>or famous person; "his title is Director of
Communications but he is just a </FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=2>spin doctor"</FONT><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=373423016-21052004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><SPAN class=373423016-21052004><FONT size=2>My hunch is that this
is close to the meaning of "to spin a yarn" (= to tell a
tale).</FONT></SPAN></TT></DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=373423016-21052004></SPAN></FONT></TT> </DIV>
<DIV><TT><FONT size=3><SPAN class=373423016-21052004><FONT size=2>Fritz
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