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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004></SPAN>T<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>hank you,
David,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>What I am interested in is in which domain these
expressions function and how they can be translated
into</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>another language in which probably another
semantic domain is activated. I see from your Chinantec examples
that</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>what can be expressed in English by the
opposition "big" vs. "small" is sometimes expressed by the
opposition</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>"important" vs. "unimportant". That would be the
same in German (see my added translations in caps) in
the</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>opposition "wichtig" vs. "unwichtig".
The adjective "wichtig" in German is derived from Gewicht (=
weight).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Fritz Goerling</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">Hi Fritz,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">I worked with a native
speaker of Sochiapan Chinantec (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">Mexico</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">) on
these phrases. Some would have only transferred over by means of an
explanatory paragraph, so I omitted those. I used the Doulos SIL
(Unicode) font, so hope it is readable.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">David
Foris</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">In brackets are the literal
and semi-literal translations of Chinantec phrases into
English.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">big
baby
dáɨn² pan¹ (baby big)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> GROSSES BABY (= big)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">big boy (a grown-up man who
behaves like a big boy) ?<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> GROSSER
JUNGE (= big)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">big man (in
politics) yeh³ (i.e. a man with influence/status)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> WICHTIGER
MANN (= important)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 108pt; TEXT-INDENT: -108pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">big
idea
hi³ quien² hi³ cháunh² chi¹ tsú² (thing important that arrives head
people)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>
WICHTIGE IDEE (= important)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">big deal (used
sarcastically) ?<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> TOLLE SACHE (=
great/special/outstanding/extraordinary)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">small
house
hñú³ pih²¹ (house small)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> KLEINES HAUS (=
small)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">small
business hñú³
pih²¹ ñí¹ hna² tsú² (house small where sell people)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>
KLEINHANDEL (= small)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">small
minded tiá²
hliáun³ cháunh² chi¹ tsú² (not many-things arrives head people)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>
KLEINGEIST (= small)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">small
change
cú¹dáɨn³ juoh¹ (red-money pieces)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff> KLEINGELD (=
small)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">small beer (a trivial
matter) hi³ pih²¹ hi³ siun¹ (thing small thing little)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> UNWICHTIGE
SACHE (= unimportant)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">cool
drink
jmɨ́² cuóuh³ (water cold, i.e. no simple adjective for ‘cool’)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> KALTES
GETRÄNK (= cold)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">cool
reception ?<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> KÜHLER
EMPFANG (= cool)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">cool
idea
?<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> TOLLE/GROSSARTIGE/COOLE IDEE ("cool" has
entered the German language in that sense)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">hot
drink
jmɨ́² chaú³ (water warm)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> HEISSES GETRÄNK (=
hot)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">hot
day
jmáɨ¹ chéi³ hiú² (day sun hot)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> HEISSER TAG (= hot)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">hot
pepper
hën² chéi³ (chilli hot)<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff> SCHARFER PFEFFER (= sharp
) </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=StructureChart style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT
face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">hot
reception
?<SPAN class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>
HERZLICHER EMPFANG (= cordial)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'">hot
favourite
hi³ jlánh¹ zaɨn³² tsú² (thing much likes s/he)<SPAN
class=500500716-12072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> HEISSER
FAVORIT (= hot)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Doulos SIL"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Doulos SIL'"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Fritz
Goerling [mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, 9 July 2004
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:59 a.m.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> lexicographylist
yahoogroups<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Lexicog] small - big, cool - hot</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'd be interested in knowing how the
following are translated</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">into other
languages:</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">big baby</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">big boy (a grown-up
man who behaves like a big boy)</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">big man (in
politics)</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">big idea</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">big deal (used
sarcastically)</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">small
house</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">small business</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">small
minded</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">small change</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">small beer (a trivial
matter)</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cool drink</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cool
reception</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cool idea</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hot
drink</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hot day</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hot
pepper</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hot reception</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">hot
favourite</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Fritz Goerling</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">---</SPAN></FONT></TT>
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