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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=468561022-17122004></SPAN>H<SPAN
class=468561022-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>aim,
L'Chayim! </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=468561022-17122004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=468561022-17122004></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=468561022-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3>Thank you. I like both proverbs.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=468561022-17122004></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=468561022-17122004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>The
underlying time concept in the Russian one seems to have the Hebrew sense
of Qohelet and of Greek kairos </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=468561022-17122004><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>or ordained time or time that is
ripe.</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Is it equivalent to
"Never count your chickens before they are
hatched?"</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=468561022-17122004></SPAN><SPAN
class=468561022-17122004></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>I<SPAN class=468561022-17122004> add to the Greek one a
biblical one: "Laughter is the best medicine" (Proverbs
17:22)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=468561022-17122004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=468561022-17122004>Shabbat
Shalom,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=468561022-17122004>Fritz</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fritz,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The first thing that
came to my mind is the famous Greek proverb: Ho khronos farmakon estin (The
time is the best medicine)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Or Russian <SPAN
class=SpellE>Tsypliat</SPAN> <SPAN class=SpellE>po</SPAN> <SPAN
class=SpellE>oseni</SPAN> <SPAN class=SpellE>schitaiut</SPAN> (It is worth to
count <SPAN class=SpellE>chikens</SPAN> at fall), there is no word ‘time’
here, but the concept of a period from spring to fall and a concept of a <SPAN
class=SpellE>competion</SPAN>.. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">Best
wishes,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">Hayim
Sheynin<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Fritz
Goerling [mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN lang=HE dir=rtl
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-language: HE">å</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> 17
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=HE dir=rtl
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-bidi-language: HE">ãöîáø</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
dir=ltr></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN> 2004
07:09<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Lexicog]
semantics</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> would be
interested in collocations, expressions, idioms and proverbs with
"time" </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">in
languages other than English.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
contributions can be about chronological time or other concepts of
time.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Examples
from English:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">to waste, save, gain, lose time; time is
money; time will tell; time is on one's
side;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">to run out of
time<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">German: "die Zeit heilt alle
Wunden" (time heals all wounds)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bible:
"There is a time for everything"
(Ecclesiastes) </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fritz
Goerling</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There was a posting yesterday in the
Corpora-List which referred to a </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">term that I had not run across before, 'semantic
prosody'. The notion </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">is
that some words collocate not just with particular other words ('arm'
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">and 'akimbo'), but with
semantic classes of words ('career' tends to </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">collate with words that have a positive sense, whereas
'job' exhibits no </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">such
tendency).</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">I suspect this is
a largely unexplored area of lexicography, although I
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">could just be ignorant.
At any rate, one of the msgs in that list gave </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">a link to a recent on-line thesis by Mike Nelson (Sea
Hunt, anyone?) </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">which studied
business English. Not one of my favorite subjects, but
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">chapter 4 of the thesis surveys
a number of concepts that may be of </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">interest to this list, including semantic prosody,
collocation, </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">colligation
(another new term to me), and multi-word items.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">The URL is <A
href="http://www.kielikanava.com/thesis.html.">http://www.kielikanava.com/thesis.html.</A></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">-- </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New"> Mike
Maxwell</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New"> Linguistic Data
Consortium</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">
maxwell@ldc.upenn.edu</FONT></TT><BR></SPAN></FONT><BR><BR
style="mso-special-character: line-break"><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><BR
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