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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005></SPAN>S<SPAN
class=781553218-22022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>o we agree,
Wayne,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>I thought so in the first
place.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=781553218-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Fritz</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where do we draw the line, Fritz? My own thinking
on the matter is that we do not draw the line. My preference for lexicography
is to be exhaustive, and I prefer that for dictionaries also. But I believe we
can mark rascist entries as being rascist, vulgar entries as vulgar,
xenophobic entries as xenophobic, etc. If a term or phrase is used in a
rascist manner by speakers of a language, that fact is part of its lexical
information and deserves to be in a dictionary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-----<BR>Wayne Leman<BR><A
href="http://committed.to/fieldtesting">http://committed.to/fieldtesting</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN>W<SPAN class=890371717-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>ayne and
Thapelo,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=890371717-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Where do we draw the line? If we have a
politically correct dictionary, </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>certain entries will be marked sexist, racist, or
homophobic or not even</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>be mentioned. Of course, there are dictionaries of
certain subcultures,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>slang or argot
dictionaries.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>But if we want to produce a GENERAL dictionary for
the whole population</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>of an ethnic group, where do we draw the line about
what to include and/</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>or what to mark as slang etc.? The "positive social
role" you are talking </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>about, Wayne, cannot consist of
expunging </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>unwanted words and
expressions</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>("unwanted" by dictionary-makers who have a certain
political or whatever </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>agenda; impartiality does not
really exist in these matters, as far I am</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>concerned).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Certain great books (the Bible) or authors
(Shakespeare) have enriched </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>the vocabulary of English enormously. Can biassed
dictionary-makers </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>expurgate </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>the English language
because such and such expressions are </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>from the </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>Bible or from a
"white dead male" (Shakespeare)? A certain </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>Thomas <I>Bowdler</I>, an
editor in Victorian times tried to rewrite Shakespeare,
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>removing all profanity so as not to offend the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>sensibilities of the audiences
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>of his day (hence the term "to bowdlerize"). It did
not work.</DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Thapelo, can you tell me more about Terry
Eagleton's position in the</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>chapter of "Literary
Theory"?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Fritz Goerling</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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