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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where do we draw the line, Fritz? My own thinking
on the matter is that we do not draw the line. My preference for lexicography is
to be exhaustive, and I prefer that for dictionaries also. But I believe we can
mark rascist entries as being rascist, vulgar entries as vulgar, xenophobic
entries as xenophobic, etc. If a term or phrase is used in a rascist manner by
speakers of a language, that fact is part of its lexical information and
deserves to be in a dictionary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-----<BR>Wayne Leman<BR><A
href="http://committed.to/fieldtesting">http://committed.to/fieldtesting</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN>W<SPAN class=890371717-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>ayne and
Thapelo,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=890371717-22022005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Where do we draw the line? If we have a
politically correct dictionary, </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>certain entries will be marked sexist, racist, or
homophobic or not even</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>be mentioned. Of course, there are dictionaries of
certain subcultures,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>slang or argot
dictionaries.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>But if we want to produce a GENERAL dictionary for
the whole population</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>of an ethnic group, where do we draw the line about
what to include and/</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>or what to mark as slang etc.? The "positive social
role" you are talking </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>about, Wayne, cannot consist of
expunging </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>unwanted words and
expressions</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>("unwanted" by dictionary-makers who have a certain
political or whatever </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>agenda; impartiality does not
really exist in these matters, as far I am</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>concerned).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Certain great books (the Bible) or authors
(Shakespeare) have enriched </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>the vocabulary of English enormously. Can biassed
dictionary-makers </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>expurgate </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>the English language
because such and such expressions are </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>from the </SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>Bible or from a "white
dead male" (Shakespeare)? A certain </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=890371717-22022005>Thomas <I>Bowdler</I>, an editor
in Victorian times tried to rewrite Shakespeare, </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>removing all profanity so as not to offend the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>sensibilities of the audiences
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>of his day (hence the term "to bowdlerize"). It did
not work.</DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Thapelo, can you tell me more about Terry Eagleton's
position in the</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>chapter of "Literary
Theory"?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=890371717-22022005>Fritz Goerling</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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